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Want peep sites and a Elk caliber. Any suggestions?
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im partial to the t/c pro hunter in 7mag recoil is not bad,flat shooter,knocks em out at long distance. never had a problem with a 160gr speer knockin them silly.
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NECG makes a peep sight for the Ruger #1. All you do is get a #1 wih factory iron sights, then just tighten down the NECG peep. I'm thinking about getting one for my Ruger - I've talked to a few people that like the set-up. As far as your elk rifle - if you're lucky you can find a Ruger #1S out there - 7mag, 300 Win Mag., .338 Win. Mag, take your pick. If not, you can still order a #1A or #1RSI. Those come in 7x57, .270 Win. and 30/06. Those should do the trick as well.
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If you want to go old timey authentic, it is hard to be a Sharps. Several people make them but Shiloh Sharps is one of the better ones. Took a nice Alaska Moose with mine last fall at 200 yards with a peep. Oh yeah, 45-70. Can say the Moose was impressed so believe it would work on Elk. TM
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[color:"brown"]The Ruger #1 is a very classy rifle... and it's available in any one of a good many cartridges that will take an elk as long as you do YOUR "job" and place the bullet where it belongs.
'Most all big game hunters have their individual "favorties" in an elk cartridge. Mine happens to be the .338 Winchester Magnum, but I'll be the first to admit that the cartridge has a fairly "stout" recoil... not a caliber for the faint-of-heart!
In my opinion (and who's else would it be since I'm writing this?!?), I'd say that smallest calibers I'd recommend (if you don't want the .338 Win. Mag.) would be a .270 Winchester, a 7x57 or a 7mm-08 and don't forget the .280 Remington and .300 Savage.
Naturally, any of the cartridges in the .30-06/.300 Win. Mag. class will get the job done as well, but recoil is "up" as is "hitting power" at the terminal end... and I'm including the 7mm Remington Magnum & the .270 & 7mm Weatherby magnums using a "heavy-for-caliber" bullets in this class rather than classing it down with the .270's, etc.
Any reasonably modern, bigger caliber throwing a 200 grain or heavier bullet (8mm Remington Magnum, .338/06, .338 Federal or Win. Mag., .35 Whelen, .358 Winchester, .358 Norma Magnum, .375 H&H Magnum, et.al.) will undoubtedly "waylay" the largest elk IF you can stand the recoil and still shoot it straight.
I'd say you have a pretty wide choice... so let us know what you choose, ok? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Good luck on your elk hunting trip... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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I think the K 1B in 7 STW fits the bill well. I do not know if you can still find a new one in the supply chain, but there are a few used ones floating around. The B model does not come with sites, I'd cure that with an NECG dovetail mounted peep and a custom front blade like one of these from NECG. I have the NECG peep mounted on a 77 and am very happy with it. I like the sourdough shown here.
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Peep sights ...
Elk through peep sights ...
Peep sights on a Ruger K1A in 35 Whelan!
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I agree the Ruger No. 1 is one of the classiest factory rifles going and it's available as you say in plenty of chamberings. If I have one complaint of the rifle it is that it is too heavy for much of the mountain hunting for elk IMO.
I'm not an expert on the design of single shots so saying the Dakota 10 is much lighter perhaps isn't fair. But it is.
Also, the Blaser K95 and the Merkel Stalking Rifle are Continental single shots of the break-open type; they are vary light and classy looking although considerably more expensive. The Blaser though has the additional capability having a another barrel fitted to the action (Blaser cert. gunsmith required) thus cutting the price of the rifle in half though it is still relatively high.
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You could do worse than the Ruger No. 1 Medium Rifle in .45-70. It's relatively light and short compared to other No. 1 versions, plenty powerful, and adaptable to an aperture sight. I would have also suggested the same rifle in .405, but the Tropical Rifle is pretty heavy.
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It's a little heavier in the #1H, but it balances so nicely and shoots so straight, it is hard not to love the thing, and the 405 ought to put the stop on any elk if you hit 'em right proper.
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How about a thin side highwall with a 30" octagon #2 barrel in .38-72 and a good set of MVA vernier sights on the rear?
If you must have a modern cartridge, a .30-40 Krag might do in a pinch but the .38-72 is a bit more easy on the eye.
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A Ruger 1A in 30-06 is a light and handy rifle. It is one of my favorite mountain rifles.
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I'd ditto the 1A in .30-06. My 7X57 1A weighs 7 lbs. 13 oz with a Leupold 2-7 in Leupy mounts. Subtract the mounts and scope and it weighs well under 7 pounds which is a good bit lighter than most bolt actions with 22" barrels.
It is butt heavy and muzzle light, particularly without a scope, which makes it very fast handling. A 22" barrel gets all you need to get out of an '06, and IIRC at least one or two people have used the .30-06 satisfactorily on elk. If you don't like the .30-06 for religious or personal reasons then the 7X57 with has been known to kill a couple of elk occasionally as well. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> It doesn't kick much at all, either.
Finally, I think the 1A's are the second neatest looking of all the Ruger #1's and they discontinued all but one caliber in the 1S which was the neatest looking one of all.
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NEF Handi Rifle in .45-70 would be my first choice. Very accurate and inexpensive.
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I found nice Ruger 1-B in .300 Win Mag. Add a NECG front and rear sights and you are in business.
A Browning B-78 with iron sights added in .30-06 would be the ticket. The magnums in the 1885 are way heavier.
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Here's my peep-sighted single-shot elk rifle: Left-handed Lyman Deerstalker .54 percussion. Sorry, not what you were after, I know ... but I couldn't resist. 2 days 'til my hunt!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Liam p.s. As far as centerfire rifles go, my recommendation would be for a Ruger #1 RSI or the light sporter in 30-06, with the NECG peep and front sight. Ruger's stock front sight is too short, I think, for the peep, but NECG sells replacement front sights at different heights. Good Luck!
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