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Unfortunately, I'm a one man operation.
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"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
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Bob, We just finished 15 miles of fence on the west side and 12 miles on the south side, but you know damn well I didn't do it alone, I am a sitter and pointer, I sit in my jeep and point my finger, had 15 guy's doing the job,and my jeep does not have A.C. it's a tough life. Rio7
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Don't Know Much About The Civil War---By Kenneth C. Davis, Just finished the book I found it interesting. Comments?? Rio7
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Blue? Is it cooler down there???? 
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Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."
WS
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Bob, Hell NO, But every evening I have 2 cases of Bud Light, on ice for the guy's it don't last long. Blue
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Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."
WS
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Unfortunately, I'm a one man operation. You need to expand. 
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�If we ever forget that we are one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.� Ronald Reagan.
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Unfortunately, I'm a one man operation. You need to expand. Then I havta invest in all new wardrobe!!!
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Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."
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Don't Know Much About The Civil War---By Kenneth C. Davis, Just finished the book I found it interesting. Comments?? Rio7 I haven't read that one myself. I have heard he makes the argument that slavery was the cause of the war. Did he do that?
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Unfortunately, I'm a one man operation. You need to expand. Then I havta invest in all new wardrobe!!! Talk to Obama he might can fix you up with an all Iranian work crew. 
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Slavery, and states rights, Davis, does not have to much good to say about all parties involved in the war, and the after math. rio7
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Remember I have read the book before. In fact every book I have suggested on this entire thread I have read before some of them multiple times. Isn't that a given for book recommendations? Presumably Tindall and Shi labored long and hard to produce a tome with correct generalizations (if that ain't an oxymoron). I'm curious why you guys keep trying to write away the 4 billion bale elephant standing in the corner. If you wouldn't mind taking the time to state the ways in which the following is incorrect? The aforementioned closing sentence of Chapter Six, on the composition of the US Constitution.... But the framers of the Constitution failed in one significant respect. In skirting the issue of slavery so as to cement the new union, they unknowingly allowed tensions over the "peculiar institution" to reach the point where there would be no political solution - only civil war.Birdwatcher
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Slavery, and states rights, Davis, does not have to much good to say about all parties involved in the war, and the after math. rio7 From what I know about Davis he is very liberal and likes to editorialize a great deal in his books.
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If you wouldn't mind taking the time to state the ways in which the following is incorrect? The aforementioned closing sentence of Chapter Six, on the composition of the US Constitution....
But the framers of the Constitution failed in one significant respect. In skirting the issue of slavery so as to cement the new union, they unknowingly allowed tensions over the "peculiar institution" to reach the point where there would be no political solution - only civil war.
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____________ That is their opinion and the opinion of only two historians, neither experts on the Civil War, in a GENERAL PURPOSE overview of US History. The reasons for this slavery only theme being wrong has been hashed out and disproven all over this thread by multiple people from multiple sources. Rehashing it yet again for a true slavery believer like you is a waste of time.
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A friend gave me Davis's book it's was a keep in the John, book took me about 6 months to read it. Rio7
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A friend gave me Davis's book it's was a keep in the John, book took me about 6 months to read it. Rio7 I have all kinds of books like that. The terlet is one of the world's great reading rooms. 
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The terlet is one of the world's great reading rooms. Years ago the Wife and I was over to a neighbors and a close friend of Her's house, playing some sort of game. Trivial pursuit or something like that. She was kinda rough talking anyway and after one game She threw every thing on the table and said, "how in hell are we supposed to beat a man that keeps encyclopedias by the [bleep]." I about busted a gut. Sadly She died a few years ago. miles
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he reasons for this slavery only theme being wrong has been hashed out and disproven all over this thread by multiple people from multiple sources. I haven't got there yet but I seriously doubt Tindall and Shi advance slavery as the only cause for secession, neither have I. I would also guess that most every general history book used in every university in America has, since well before the 1980's, said pretty much the same thing. Could it be your particular interpretations represent a minority view, even among Civil War Historians? That four billion bale (US cotton exports ca. 1860) elephant in the corner of the room has got to be pretty hard to ignore. Birdwatcher
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he reasons for this slavery only theme being wrong has been hashed out and disproven all over this thread by multiple people from multiple sources. I haven't got there yet but I seriously doubt Tindall and Shi advance slavery as the only cause for secession, neither have I. I would also guess that most every general history book used in every university in America has, since well before the 1980's, said pretty much the same thing. Could it be your particular interpretations represent a minority view, even among Civil War Historians? That four billion bale (US cotton exports ca. 1860) elephant in the corner of the room has got to be pretty hard to ignore. Birdwatcher Why don't you just slink back off to your barrio and enjoy your leftist world view and leave everybody alone? I weary of your continual drivel.
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The shotgun is the answer. It was used by both the British and the Germans but really perfected by the US troops and the Model 97 Winchester "Trench Brooms."
By late in the war getting caught by the Germans with a shotgun meant a summary execution on the spot.
I knew that one! I forgot to check back with this thread, or I'd have answered your question. I think I learned this back when the History Channel actually taught history.
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