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Makes me wonder how many Indians said "BS! I'm not making my own arrowheads! I'll just walk the fields."
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Dynamite finds, slumlord!
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I tried a new strategy in my search. Usually most of us that hunt these things focus on likely camps or possible gathering areas. Sure we can find stuff there.
Well, lately I have working likely ambush scenarios out in my head. There happens to be a larger order spring and cluster complex of karst windowing with 'satellite springs' all within about a 20 acre patch of woods.
I have began to try and conceptualize likely game and hunter interactions surrounding this watering hole complex. I have no idea what the ground cover was like 8,000 years ago (5000 for Baptists). I can possibly assume that natives used a current ditchline as an ambush concealment feature to stage from as elk or bison or deer followed the gentle contour down to the water.
I also assumed that atl-atl throwers were possibly skilled out to 50yards at a baseline hypothesis. I didn't bother with wider parameters or streambed undulations of the current ditchlines.
In short, there is a hot zone about 100ft to 200ft parallel to the ditch line where I am finding many intact points and spear heads.
These large order springs would've been a major draw during the post-glacial Antithermal climatic optimum. Conditions may have been given to much warmer and drier weather than even today.
At the usual camp areas, mostly broke stuff, as if broken while being knapped.
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I wonder what the purpose of the rounded one was?
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A broken Big Sandy or Kirk will often get re-purposed at a hafted scraper. Many number of uses. Doubtfully used at a "blunt" as many often suggest.
A handy tool to have, scraping, peeling, chipping, edged spooning tool. That edge is actually been resharpened down by precise flaking and then ground. It's got a very sharp edge still.
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Makes me wonder how many Indians said "BS! I'm not making my own arrowheads! I'll just walk the fields." And then there are some people that say "BS! I don't have a single piece of flint showing on the whole property, I'll just make some of my own!" And then they spend a couple of hours on a saturday afternoon, without much else going on, knocking out a few...Except for the large point most of these will likely get hunted with this fall.
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Makes me wonder how many Indians said "BS! I'm not making my own arrowheads! I'll just walk the fields." And then there are some people that say "BS! I don't have a single piece of flint showing on the whole property, I'll just make some of my own!" And then they spend a couple of hours on a saturday afternoon, without much else going on, knocking out a few...Except for the large point most of these will likely get hunted with this fall. I tried my hand at that once...ONCE!
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So far this spring I found these points and a real nice preform.
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couple busted bird points and a handful of garbage...
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found the base of one 'bout like that'un yesterday. Thanks for reminding me to get it outta my pocket and get a pic.....
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Thanks guys... I'd have to call this one of my best, and most favorite.
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Don, seems like I ONLY ever find the base. Matter of fact I found 3-4 today.
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This is the kind of point that breaks your heart. Firstview, would have been a 10+ had it not been broken :(:(:( The edges are micro-flaked and feel just like a hacksaw blade. Out of the many heads I have found, this one is absolutely a work of art. I had to dig it out of a creek bank, and held my breath the whole time, not knowing what was going to come out of the clay. It was so hard, I had to use a hammer and a screwdriver. It was about 4ft down from the surface. Lots of Paleo in the small area where I found this. Love this thread.
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Wow that's a beautiful piece!
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This is the kind of point that breaks your heart. Firstview, would have been a 10+ had it not been broken :(:(:( The edges are micro-flaked and feel just like a hacksaw blade. Out of the many heads I have found, this one is absolutely a work of art. I had to dig it out of a creek bank, and held my breath the whole time, not knowing what was going to come out of the clay. It was so hard, I had to use a hammer and a screwdriver. It was about 4ft down from the surface. Lots of Paleo in the small area where I found this. Love this thread. Old gunsmith! Dads Clovis came out of a creek there when he was digging topaz. Well it's the bottom portion. You are right!!! That county reeks of paleo stuff!!
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My only paleo. Think I posted it here before. An Angostura I found turkey hunting in crockett county west texas.
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"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
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I love the paleo points! All of 'em!
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Paleo stuff is really cool. And if you're really not careful you can find it everywhere. Just gotta look and get lucky.
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"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
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