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They can see a difference between the now discontinued, but still available, Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40 and the above Leupolds. The Zeiss is much clearer and sharper. I loved the Conquest 3-9's for their sharpness/clarity 'til I started shooting beyond 200yds at targets with one. The parallax on all 3 of the ones I owned was too much for me - the least movement would give a couple of inches movement on the target. Zeiss told me that they could not reset the parallax, so I've since replaced 'em all as has a good buddy that found the same thing to be true on his. Folks talk about consistent cheek weld, but from field positions I'd argue that's not really always possible given your neck/head are at different angles vs the rifle.
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Optically, I find the VX2s and VX3s very comparable.
I appreciate the fact that you can still get a VX2 with a gloss finish.
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The VX-2's are a lot of scope for the money. At least mine are. mtmuley
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Just use the 3.5-10x in differing conditions and then try the 3-9x... Forget the hoopla about erectors and clarity, just set them both on 6x... the 3.5-10x shines... the 3-9, not so much.
The entire scope is greatly more forgiving in virtually every way. The eyebox size is quite different and it gets on target with much greater facility. The 3.5-10x Leupold is the best group of compromises in their entire line, IME&O.
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Optically, I find the VX2s and VX3s very comparable.
I appreciate the fact that you can still get a VX2 with a gloss finish.
donsm70 Outstanding point.
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IMO it could depend on individual eyesight. I've got a newer VX1 3-9x40 and two VX3s in 3.5-10x40 all bought since 2012. I've also got an 1989 Vari-X III 3.5-10x40 I bought used a few years ago.
I can't see enough difference in the optical quality in the VX3s over the old Vari-X III or Vx1 to justify the considerable price difference of a VX3 over a VX1 or VX2. I'm not saying the difference isn't there but I can't see it. YMMV.
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The 3.5-10 VX3 is better than the 3-9x40 VX2
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The 3.5-10 VX3 is better than the 3-9x40 VX2 Well that's just science.
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Nope theres a good reason
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IMO it could depend on individual eyesight. I've got a newer VX1 3-9x40 and two VX3s in 3.5-10x40 all bought since 2012. I've also got an 1989 Vari-X III 3.5-10x40 I bought used a few years ago.
I can't see enough difference in the optical quality in the VX3s over the old Vari-X III or Vx1 to justify the considerable price difference of a VX3 over a VX1 or VX2. I'm not saying the difference isn't there but I can't see it. YMMV. There isn't, if you always shoot in sunshine and like heavier scopes with friction adjustments.
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The newer VX1s have improved glass and 1/4" click adjustments. According to Leupold they weigh 11.2 oz. They're a better scope than they were a few years ago.
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Unless something changed while I wasn't looking:
98% light transmission, upgraded erector assembly springs, one piece tube, housing threaded for Alumina covers, several reticle options.
That's quite a bit for 200 bucks or so.
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For me there is little difference when it comes to these 2 scopes. Funny thing, for me when I compare the VX2 2-7X33 to the VX3 2.5-8X36 the difference is a lot more notable.
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If they had 98% light transmission they would be the highest of any scope ever made, euro or otherwise.
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You might want to check those numbers again. The new Schmidt Bender Polar T96 is reported to have the greatest light transmission at 96.37%.
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SWFA has a chart of Leupold differences that has been posted here in the past. VX2 is rated 94% transmission on a glass surface VX3 is rated at 98% - actual transmission will vary with number of glass surfaces objective size and crosshair design.
The VariX II was rated 82% and the VariX III 92% with differences in friction or click and other internal differences gas fill and so on and so forth. As noted a newer scope is almost always better than an older scope regardless of series.
But I'm still happy enough with an old MX8.
Time was, long ago or at least a number of generations ago I thought the II series 2x7 was the very best choice for a gun sight - as John Dean Cooper sometimes said with the intent to disparage looking at the moon was not the purpose.
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SWFA has a chart of Leupold differences that has been posted here in the past. VX2 is rated 94% transmission on a glass surface VX3 is rated at 98% - actual transmission will vary with number of glass surfaces objective size and crosshair design.
The VariX II was rated 82% and the VariX III 92% with differences in friction or click and other internal differences gas fill and so on and so forth. As noted a newer scope is almost always better than an older scope regardless of series.
But I'm still happy enough with an old MX8.
Time was, long ago or at least a number of generations ago I thought the II series 2x7 was the very best choice for a gun sight - as John Dean Cooper sometimes said with the intent to disparage looking at the moon was not the purpose. Leupold 2-7x scopes are my favorite gun sights for shooting game and have been since 1974.
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You might want to check those numbers again. The new Schmidt Bender Polar T96 is reported to have the greatest light transmission at 96.37%. You know there are difference methods, right?
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Light transmission isn't everything in apparent brightness, by any means. And often it is rated per lens surface, not overall.
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More than likely, that is what Leupold meant.
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