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It’s worse than anyone thought.
Not only were John Kerry and Barack Obama fleeced by Iran in the so-called nuclear deal, but we now learn there are secret deals, details of which not even Kerry and Obama know about.
This just seems unbelievable, beyond mere incompetence.
The only way a deal could be made with a nation of liars and religious fanatics bent on the destruction of Israel and the West was if there was an ironclad system of verification to ensure beyond any doubt that Iran was not developing a nuclear bomb.
But there is no 24/7 verification as the president said there was in this deal. Iran gets a month’s notice of “instant inspections.” But if that’s not bad enough, here’s something you likely didn’t know yesterday: apparently, one of the secret side deals allows other parties to conduct further negotiations on verification. Apparently, the world’s largest state sponsor of terrorism gets to determine who verifies whether it’s cheating. No American inspectors will be allowed.
This is insanity.
Secretary of State John Kerry says the U.S. had no choice but to agree because the alternative, as President Obama has said, would be war.
Well here’s the other “secret” that everyone but Obama and Kerry seems to know: There’s no avoiding war with Iran. It’s a fait accompli.
Israel cannot, should not and will not allow Iran to build a nuclear weapon — period, end of story, deal or no deal.
And here’s another thing, a part of this deal, that Americans might not know. It requires the U.S. defend Iran’s nuclear capability. Can you imagine the U.S. secretary of state signing that? Can you imagine him agreeing that not if, but when Israel defends itself by attacking Iran’s nuclear capability, that the United States will be obligated to come to Iran’s assistance, against Israel?
We’re reminded of Toodles telling Peter Pan as he was crawling around Wendy’s bedroom, “I have lost my marbles.”
The only way the United States should respond to Iran’s intent to join the world’s nuclear family is to bring the country to its knees economically. We were well on the way to doing that, and while it will be more difficult to continue it if Russia and China, among other sanction partners abandon the effort, we have no choice.
All we can hope to do is delay Iran in building its bomb in the hope that something will happen in the meantime, perhaps an overthrow of its fanatical government. But if that doesn’t happen, Israel will act, and we should act with them, to ensure that this rogue state never obtains a nuclear weapon.
Iran’s official state policy is the destruction of Israel, and we’re next. You can’t make a deal with a nation like that. Why would you even want to?
We are depending on the U.S. Senate to end this debacle.


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that last sentence."good luck with that happening".


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You can not make me beleave that Bam Bam and Kerry did not know everything about the agreement.

It was orchestrated by them.

The distruction of Isreal and the US is just what they want.

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Not only were John Kerry and Barack Obama fleeced by Iran in the so-called nuclear deal, but we now learn there are secret deals, details of which not even Kerry and Obama know about.


I heard that on the radio last night. I heard Kerry himself say that he had not read it. Yet he agreed to it. Sad and an impeachable offense if anyone had any balls. miles


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From yesterday...


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And yet they still made the deal.

Unbelievable.

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And yet they still made the deal.

Unbelievable.


From the clowns running the show it's completely believable.

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I've made this analogy before, but it's worth repeating.

This Iran nuclear deal is like having a maniac running at you with a bayonet, and you bargain with him to slow down a little.


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once you get your head around the FACT, that EVERYTHING this adminsitration does is calculated to damage, bring down, diminish, or other wise harm America, it all becomes clear.

Without a doubt, a better deal could have been obtained, had anyone in DC wanted one. They got what they set out to get, a knife thrust into the heart of America.

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Somebody finally asked yesterday about the nuclear weapon research facility in North Korea which has been in existence since 2012. This facility isn't part of this agreement and Kerry said it's non of our business because Iran and North Korea have their own agreement with the UN. The question was what will prevent Iran from getting nuclear bombs from North Korea and Kerry said that can never happen because it's against the rules of an UN agreement he admits he's never seen!

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When I was growing up we considered Democrats a minor nuisance....Now they are hell bent on destroying this country. I now consider any Democrat the enemy from within.....


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Nothing surprises me with these clowns but I would like to know .

When is somebody with authority going to stand up and say enough is enough and hold them accountable for what they are doing.


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Originally Posted by KentuckyMountainMan
When I was growing up we considered Democrats a minor nuisance....Now they are hell bent on destroying this country. I now consider any Democrat the enemy from within.....


I've been saying the same thing for years. Democrat=TRAITOR. It's that simple.


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Originally Posted by bea175
It’s worse than anyone thought.
Not only were John Kerry and Barack Obama fleeced by Iran in the so-called nuclear deal, but we now learn there are secret deals, details of which not even Kerry and Obama know about.
This just seems unbelievable, beyond mere incompetence.
The only way a deal could be made with a nation of liars and religious fanatics bent on the destruction of Israel and the West was if there was an ironclad system of verification to ensure beyond any doubt that Iran was not developing a nuclear bomb.
But there is no 24/7 verification as the president said there was in this deal. Iran gets a month’s notice of “instant inspections.” But if that’s not bad enough, here’s something you likely didn’t know yesterday: apparently, one of the secret side deals allows other parties to conduct further negotiations on verification. Apparently, the world’s largest state sponsor of terrorism gets to determine who verifies whether it’s cheating. No American inspectors will be allowed.
This is insanity.
Secretary of State John Kerry says the U.S. had no choice but to agree because the alternative, as President Obama has said, would be war.
Well here’s the other “secret” that everyone but Obama and Kerry seems to know: There’s no avoiding war with Iran. It’s a fait accompli.
Israel cannot, should not and will not allow Iran to build a nuclear weapon — period, end of story, deal or no deal.
And here’s another thing, a part of this deal, that Americans might not know. It requires the U.S. defend Iran’s nuclear capability. Can you imagine the U.S. secretary of state signing that? Can you imagine him agreeing that not if, but when Israel defends itself by attacking Iran’s nuclear capability, that the United States will be obligated to come to Iran’s assistance, against Israel?
We’re reminded of Toodles telling Peter Pan as he was crawling around Wendy’s bedroom, “I have lost my marbles.”
The only way the United States should respond to Iran’s intent to join the world’s nuclear family is to bring the country to its knees economically. We were well on the way to doing that, and while it will be more difficult to continue it if Russia and China, among other sanction partners abandon the effort, we have no choice.
All we can hope to do is delay Iran in building its bomb in the hope that something will happen in the meantime, perhaps an overthrow of its fanatical government. But if that doesn’t happen, Israel will act, and we should act with them, to ensure that this rogue state never obtains a nuclear weapon.
Iran’s official state policy is the destruction of Israel, and we’re next. You can’t make a deal with a nation like that. Why would you even want to?
We are depending on the U.S. Senate to end this debacle.


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"I now consider any Democrat the enemy..."

I do too but they're so stupid they don't realize they are destroying our country. This whole Iran fiasco happened because Congress bestowed Treaty power on Obama, everybody except Tom Cotten. This agreement will guarantee a war within 8 years (or sooner) since Iran will allowed to have ICBMs then. Kerry brags that giving allowing Iran to have ICBMs in 8 years is a great deal because our friends Russia and China wants to give them to Iran right now. I have 2 Grandsons that will be military age in 8 years.

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Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by KentuckyMountainMan
When I was growing up we considered Democrats a minor nuisance....Now they are hell bent on destroying this country. I now consider any Democrat the enemy from within.....


I've been saying the same thing for years. Democrat=TRAITOR. It's that simple.


Amen brother....believe it more and more all the time.


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Originally Posted by JGRaider
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by KentuckyMountainMan
When I was growing up we considered Democrats a minor nuisance....Now they are hell bent on destroying this country. I now consider any Democrat the enemy from within.....


I've been saying the same thing for years. Democrat=TRAITOR. It's that simple.


Amen brother....believe it more and more all the time.


'Tis very true, there was a time when a democrat was not a bad thing just somebody that thought a little different but the love of country was still there.

Now that the democrat party has been taken over by the communist party things sure have changed, they are unmistakably the same enemy.


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Originally Posted by KentuckyMountainMan
When I was growing up we considered Democrats a minor nuisance....Now they are hell bent on destroying this country. I now consider any Democrat the enemy from within.....


it is becoming clear, that any and all dhimmicrats, all liberals, are as much America's enemy as any foreign power.
You cannot be a liberal, or a dhimmicrat, and love America, feel patriotic about America, or want America to succeed.


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Originally Posted by milespatton
I heard Kerry himself say that he had not read it. Yet he agreed to it.


This is a shock? Remember the "Obamacare" vote?


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