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You guys are pretty close. Most of my hunting is in Smyth. I hunt a little bit in Tazewell and Grayson, but not too often.
Clinch Mountain and Skulls Gap are where I'm usually at. You ever hunt any over around Sugar Grove, VA? Yea, not as much as I used to, but I hunt there every year. Dry Creek, Dickie's Creek and Slab Town to be specific.
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You guys are pretty close. Most of my hunting is in Smyth. I hunt a little bit in Tazewell and Grayson, but not too often.
Clinch Mountain and Skulls Gap are where I'm usually at. You ever hunt any over around Sugar Grove, VA? I use to bow hunt there in the 80's .
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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You guys are pretty close. Most of my hunting is in Smyth. I hunt a little bit in Tazewell and Grayson, but not too often.
Clinch Mountain and Skulls Gap are where I'm usually at. You ever hunt any over around Sugar Grove, VA? Yea, not as much as I used to, but I hunt there every year. Dry Creek, Dickie's Creek and Slab Town to be specific. Used to be a lot of deer in those areas.
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Dickie's Creek isn't near what it used to be. One good buck from Dry Creek (that I'm aware of) in the past few years. No one camps there anymore, a lot of bear hunters always in Dry Creek. Slab Town has a ton of deer, and a ton of hunters. Last good one I know of that came out of the area... ![[Linked Image]](http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr124/hooks7/1467309_617318568325034_1764490149_n.jpg)
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That's a hoss!
We used to hunt The Dry Run Wilderness area (even before it was a wilderness area) Killed 2 bucks there the same morning in 93. I thought i was going to die getting both of them out!
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Dickie's Creek isn't near what it used to be. One good buck from Dry Creek (that I'm aware of) in the past few years. No one camps there anymore, a lot of bear hunters always in Dry Creek. Slab Town has a ton of deer, and a ton of hunters. Last good one I know of that came out of the area... That is a beast of a buck.
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That's a hoss!
We used to hunt The Dry Run Wilderness area (even before it was a wilderness area) Killed 2 bucks there the same morning in 93. I thought i was going to die getting both of them out! Given how rough some of that country is I have always been puzzled why VA will not allow a hunter to quarter and pack a deer out. We can in NC.
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That's a hoss!
We used to hunt The Dry Run Wilderness area (even before it was a wilderness area) Killed 2 bucks there the same morning in 93. I thought i was going to die getting both of them out! Given how rough some of that country is I have always been puzzled why VA will not allow a hunter to quarter and pack a deer out. We can in NC. We can, you just have to call it in first. I agree it's a stupid law.
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That's a hoss!
We used to hunt The Dry Run Wilderness area (even before it was a wilderness area) Killed 2 bucks there the same morning in 93. I thought i was going to die getting both of them out! Given how rough some of that country is I have always been puzzled why VA will not allow a hunter to quarter and pack a deer out. We can in NC. We can, you just have to call it in first. I agree it's a stupid law. You leave the deer to go call it in and the critter will be on the way to somebody else freezer before you get back. Hopefully. they will change the regulation.
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its a phone-in checking system. once you call you can bring it out in quart bags if you like.
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You don't have to check it in first. You have to check it in prior to vehicular transport of the game animal, or at the conclusion of the hunting day, whichever occurs first and without unnecessary delay. https://www3.dgif.virginia.gov/gamecheck/The "unnecessary delay" allows for hunters that are outside of cell range when darkness falls to call in the kill ASAP once they get to cell range. That does not mean that you can't cut it up and start (or completely) haul it out prior to making the call; it just means that you have to make that call as soon as such a call is feasible. The system is a whole Hell of a lot better than it used to be, that's for damned sure.
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According to 3 different wardens...
If I decide to take a deer apart to bring it out, if I haven't called it in and received a number, I MUST have EVERY piece of the deer other than the internal organs. Otherwise, I will be ticketed if caught.
This was told to me by 2 different wardens in person, and one on a phone call.
I know from experience, you can't beat these grey areas in court. It sucks to get misdemeanor charges for something that isn't "wrong" or even clearly illegal. But they will pin it on you every time.
My advice, either call it in if you plan on quartering/deboning...or start dragging.
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According to 3 different wardens...
If I decide to take a deer apart to bring it out, if I haven't called it in and received a number, I MUST have EVERY piece of the deer other than the internal organs. Otherwise, I will be ticketed if caught.
This was told to me by 2 different wardens in person, and one on a phone call.
I know from experience, you can't beat these grey areas in court. It sucks to get misdemeanor charges for something that isn't "wrong" or even clearly illegal. But they will pin it on you every time.
My advice, either call it in if you plan on quartering/deboning...or start dragging. I'll be at a Hunter Ed training seminar soon; I'll get the temp on this from VDGIF then and there. I won't disagree that a lot of wardens interpret things differently based upon personal viewpoints rather than the language of the laws/regulations, and that's slow to change.
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Page 30 of the 2015-2016 VA hunting regs, just for clarification on the question at hand: Checking Bear, Deer, Elk, and Turkey
General Information
• It is unlawful to destroy the identity (sex) of any animal until it is checked. After the appropriate tag has been validated (notched), successful hunters are allowed to dismember the carcass to pack it out from the place of kill as long as they do not destroy the identity of the sex and all the parts of the carcass (excluding internal organs) are present when the animal is checked.
• All bear, deer, elk, and turkey must be checked by all hunters, including license-exempt hunters, upon vehicle transport of the carcass or at the conclusion of legal hunting hours, whichever occurs first and without unnecessary delay.
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over 50% of the deer killed in va have never been checked in .this stupid bear thing is only going to make this worse.when they piss off 75-80% of the hunters just to make 25% happy this will happen.
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over 50% of the deer killed in va have never been checked in .this stupid bear thing is only going to make this worse.when they piss off 75-80% of the hunters just to make 25% happy this will happen. You piss and moan considerably. Where in the Hell do you get the "over 50% of deer killed in VA have never been checked in" stuff? That somehow people (who is the question) being pissed over $21 is somehow going to turn otherwise lawful hunters into game thieves and poachers (especially when tags are unlimited and cheap) on deer is just silly. You are pissed about $21, obviously, but damn, it ain't that big a deal.
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over 50% of the deer killed in va have never been checked in .this stupid bear thing is only going to make this worse.when they piss off 75-80% of the hunters just to make 25% happy this will happen. I've wondered how many really get checked now. With the phone in system does the VADGIF really care?
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over 50% of the deer killed in va have never been checked in .this stupid bear thing is only going to make this worse.when they piss off 75-80% of the hunters just to make 25% happy this will happen. I've wondered how many really get checked now. With the phone in system does the VADGIF really care? No, in some respects, they really don't care. They are trying to get a better handle on bear numbers and bear hunter numbers (thus, the tag) as well as turkey, and neither of those are going full phone/e-check in because of it. Good Lord, I'd hate to imagine what some folks would do if they ever tried to hunt out West where they had to draw a damned tag instead of buying a fist full for relatively little money every year.
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Good Lord, I'd hate to imagine what some folks would do if they ever tried to hunt out West where they had to draw a damned tag instead of buying a fist full for relatively little money every year.
We have it made in that respect.
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I think that a lot of folks around here are like me in that a bear tag is an investment in Maybe.
I buy a tag every year because I might see one, but have yet to make a special trip to the woods looking for one. If I lived in an area where they were more common, it might be different. I do like the fact that the season runs concurrent with deer season.
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