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Why is it the school called law enforcement to discipline an 8 yr old...really?
I mean, WTF is a LEO supposed to do with an unruly 8 year old?
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Why is it the school called law enforcement to discipline an 8 yr old...really? About what I thought. What's the cop suppose to do anyway?
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Why not just a good butt whippin?
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Be interesting to know if it cured the kid from acting unruly in class?
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State law specifically, and in plain language, forbids the use of physical - especially mechanical physical - restraints. The SRO is toast, and should be.
Whether the kid/s was/were a complete jackass(es) or not is a separate question; the state law specifically forbids exactly what he did. Twice.
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Why is it the school called law enforcement to discipline an 8 yr old...really?
I mean, WTF is a LEO supposed to do with an unruly 8 year old? We can certainly agree there.
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That's exactly why cops shouldn't be beholding to anybody but the law.
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This cop needs serious consequences?
Three questions:
1) What makes you think he won't get them.
2) Are the consequences he gets any of your concern.
3) People all over the world do stuff every day that merits "serious consequences." Why single out this particular person. What is so remarkable here.
OK, that was 4.
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This cop needs serious consequences?
Three questions:
1) What makes you think he won't get them.
2) Are the consequences he gets any of your concern.
3) People all over the world do stuff every day that merits "serious consequences." Why single out this particular person. What is so remarkable here.
OK, that was 4. Cops hold a unique position of authority in our society, making this a matter of common concern for Americans.
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Cops hold a unique position of authority in our society, making this a matter of common concern for Americans. You're right. This particular incident is an example of a LEO trying to do what the employer wants, rather than what the law allows.
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Cops hold a unique position of authority in our society, making this a matter of common concern for Americans. You're right. This particular incident is an example of a LEO trying to do what the employer wants, rather than what the law allows. Well said. Now, will any of the SROs "bosses" be held accountable? Highly doubtful. Will any of the teachers who pawned off the kids to the SRO be held to any degree of accountability? Almost assuredly not. This in NO way is excusing the SRO for his illegal actions. However, the problem is quite likely more deeply rooted than the SRO, and the root needs to be dug out along with all it's tentacles.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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This cop needs serious consequences?
Three questions:
1) What makes you think he won't get them.
2) Are the consequences he gets any of your concern.
3) People all over the world do stuff every day that merits "serious consequences." Why single out this particular person. What is so remarkable here.
OK, that was 4. Cops hold a unique position of authority in our society, making this a matter of common concern for Americans. Its the 10% of squeaky wheels pointing out what the bad 10% of every professsion does, thats wrong, that makes it seem like the whole profession is wrong. Just like media these days the bashers are part of the problem of America. Not that these things don't need to be addressed, but .....
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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Cops hold a unique position of authority in our society, making this a matter of common concern for Americans. You're right. This particular incident is an example of a LEO trying to do what the employer wants, rather than what the law allows. Well said. Now, will any of the SROs "bosses" be held accountable? Highly doubtful. Will any of the teachers who pawned off the kids to the SRO be held to any degree of accountability? Almost assuredly not. This in NO way is excusing the SRO for his illegal actions. However, the problem is quite likely more deeply rooted than the SRO, and the root needs to be dug out along with all it's tentacles. The whole incident would be avoidable "if"...using your term...unruely kids could be "pawned [back] off" to the parents.
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Cops hold a unique position of authority in our society, making this a matter of common concern for Americans. You're right. This particular incident is an example of a LEO trying to do what the employer wants, rather than what the law allows. Well said. Now, will any of the SROs "bosses" be held accountable? Highly doubtful. Will any of the teachers who pawned off the kids to the SRO be held to any degree of accountability? Almost assuredly not. This in NO way is excusing the SRO for his illegal actions. However, the problem is quite likely more deeply rooted than the SRO, and the root needs to be dug out along with all it's tentacles. The whole incident would be avoidable "if"...using your term...unrully kids could be "pawned [back] off" to the parents. Parents are the ones doing the original pawning off to the schools instead of actually raising their kids. The ultimate responsibility lies with the parent, yet that doesn't absolve the SRO, the school administration, or the teachers for this debacle.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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My better half recently retired after 26yrs of working at the West Virginia School for the Deaf and Blind. She taught kids ages 2yrs to 18yrs and was trained and certified by the state in how to safely restrain them when they would go off. Seems the public school systems ought to do the same or LEO's should be able to. Your not only protecting others your protecting the child from themselves.
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The whole incident would be avoidable "if"...using your term...unruely kids could be "pawned [back] off" to the parents.
Schools should indeed be freer to expel students.
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Cops hold a unique position of authority in our society, making this a matter of common concern for Americans. You're right. This particular incident is an example of a LEO trying to do what the employer wants, rather than what the law allows. Well said. Now, will any of the SROs "bosses" be held accountable? Highly doubtful. Will any of the teachers who pawned off the kids to the SRO be held to any degree of accountability? Almost assuredly not. This in NO way is excusing the SRO for his illegal actions. However, the problem is quite likely more deeply rooted than the SRO, and the root needs to be dug out along with all it's tentacles. The whole incident would be avoidable "if"...using your term...unrully kids could be "pawned [back] off" to the parents. Parents are the ones doing the original pawning off to the schools instead of actually raising their kids. The ultimate responsibility lies with the parent, yet that doesn't absolve the SRO, the school administration, or the teachers for this debacle. I agree.
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I'm thinking a taser would slow the progression of this disease.
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This cop needs serious consequences?
Three questions:
1) What makes you think he won't get them.
2) Are the consequences he gets any of your concern.
3) People all over the world do stuff every day that merits "serious consequences." Why single out this particular person. What is so remarkable here.
OK, that was 4. Cops hold a unique position of authority in our society, making this a matter of common concern for Americans. They hold another unique position too.
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