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Originally Posted by prairie_goat
Try 70 grain VLDs in your current rifle. If they shoot well (and there's a good chance they will), you'll save a bunch of money dinking around with a new barrel. You will never see the difference between a standard 223 and the Ackley in the field.


Thanks for the recommendation, if I remember correctly did you buy a Kimber Montana that was rechambered to 223 AI? What were your experiences with it, accuracy modifications, loads etc if you don't mind sharing. Maybe you still have it, you may PM me if you'd rather not share here.

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My brother lives in a town of 250 people and there are half a dozen guys with lathes that know how to rebarrel their rifles.

I live in a town of 20,000, and I am the only one I know of.

It must have something to do with square miles.

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I have built a 257 Roberts Ackley improved, a 257 Roberts Ackley improved Rimmed, and I just got the reamer and dies for 250 Krag Ackley improved.

Ackley, don't do it in 223.
Don't waste all that time forming, when 223 brass is so cheap.
It is so cheap, don't even trim, just throw away.
With a collet neck die, a 223 case dedicated to one rifle can go 25 shots before trimming.



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Originally Posted by prairie_goat
Sure the bolt through the head might have been a bit of hyperbole. But what the hell is the difference between a bolt through the head, an exploded action or barrel, or an 80k psi blast of gas to the face when you're the shooter? It's bad news either way, doesn't really matter about the details. And the rifle coming apart and sending the bolt flying isn't just speculation.....there's a pretty good dent in a building made by a rifle bolt, behind the shooting bench at Western Powders just up the road from me, where one of their guys was testing a wildcat....the rifle came apart due to an overload and blew pieces all to hell and gone.



Way to much emotion about other folks choice of rifles or cartridge.


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His comment really wasn't about anyone's choice of rifle or cartridge.



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OK, way to emotional about other folks choice to punch a 223 to 223AI, happy?


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It wasn't about that either, but keep guessing.



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GFY, Hig' didn't specify a barrel length so I sure the fu'k ain't guessing about anything.


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It's about a Clueless Dumbfhuqk talking out of her Whining ass...about the things she "knows" the LEAST about. In other words,same old schit,different day.

"20-30fps"?!? I'm fhuqking crying I'm laughing sooooooooooo fhuqking hard!!!

Poor Poor STUPID Goat Fhuqk is reliably more than a touch shy,of hitting on all cylinders and can only do the best she can,with what incredibly fhuqking little she has to work with. Bless her heart.

If only in "fairness" I've got more 223AI's than she's ever fhuqking seen and just might have dabbled a Montucky or two,chambered same. Hint. That in both OEM setback/punchout and full Custom to increase RPM. Re-Hint. Lilja,Rock,PN,and Hart being just a few of them specimens. Re-re-hint. Twist rates running 7",7.7",8" and OEM 9". Re-re-re-hint.

Now to the OP's query,if only to cut to the fhuqking chase in the firsthand.

1) If a Plumber is stumped by a Montucky...RUN Forrest...fhuqking RUN. Hint.

2) 8" will do it all,in all atmospheres. Splendid spouts abound and it is nice to have sooooooooooo many choices. There is MUCHO Mojo in the various 3-grooved 1-8" buttoned offerings. Dan's wares are solid and Chris assuredly gets a scald on his. I'd shop closest to tidewater.(grin)

3) The Montucky OEM contour is money. The LAST fhuqking thing I'd do to said platform,is add contour or barrel length. I've got it on GOOD fhuqking authority,that my 1-8" Brux contour duped 6BR at 20",is THE one. Prolly because there ain't another place on the Planet,as steeped in Custom Montuckies,as my AO. Hint. I've only got said contour in 20,21 and 22". Re-Hint.

As an aside,there's also Ascents and Adirondacks lurking. I mighta coulda been around some 8400's too,in both OEM and Custom guise.

Weren't my intent to steal 20 or 30fps of someone's "thunder" nor the awe inspiring Barn Dent Recital's moxie. Laughing!

MAYBE we'll get "all" of the "details" of the "wildcat" that loosed a bolt and be able to correlate the rampant DUMBFHUQKEREY,to that which it is?!? Chambering,twist,throat,action,barrel,powder,brass,primer and "experience".



Still wondering...who chews her food for her?!?

Fhuqking WOW +P++!!!.....................


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Originally Posted by RDW
GFY, Hig' didn't specify a barrel length so I sure the fu'k ain't guessing about anything.



Finally, you're getting close.



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Originally Posted by RDW
GFY, Hig' didn't specify a barrel length so I sure the fu'k ain't guessing about anything.



Yeah, I guess I left that out. It's 18" long. Takes a lot of blue dot to get those speeds, but it's worth it. wink


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Originally Posted by RDW
GFY, Hig' didn't specify a barrel length so I sure the fu'k ain't guessing about anything.


I believe he has. His load has been run through Quickload. But that's not really the point here.

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Originally Posted by BurninDupont
Originally Posted by prairie_goat
Try 70 grain VLDs in your current rifle. If they shoot well (and there's a good chance they will), you'll save a bunch of money dinking around with a new barrel. You will never see the difference between a standard 223 and the Ackley in the field.


Thanks for the recommendation, if I remember correctly did you buy a Kimber Montana that was rechambered to 223 AI? What were your experiences with it, accuracy modifications, loads etc if you don't mind sharing. Maybe you still have it, you may PM me if you'd rather not share here.

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BurninDupont,

I had a 223 AI Montana for a while. Was a very nice rifle, but didn't see a darned bit of difference between it and the 8 twist extended mag 223 AI I had at the same time. Or a 9 twist 223. This was on targets, prairie dogs, etc., out to 500+ yards. Occasionally out quite a bit further for fun.

I'll try and dig through my data and see what worked in that rifle; don't remember off the top of my head. Will get back to you.


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'bean,

I hear good thangs about 18" 223AI's...but I've of course got 'em from 18 to 24".

Found a BWH 1-8" 3-grooved 18" Slim Middie in the corner,earlier this R&R and slammed it aboard as replacement for a C/L RRA Middie. Trouble was,it HATED the LBBMFER Fodder loaded in advance for the RRA spout(O/F RP 400's,lever,400's and 75 Hornie HPBT),so that approach was no joy. C-Note happily digested them at 2870fps as form fodder and the world is right again.

Schit always works out.

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C-Note will grant 3075fps in formed cases with 75A-Max at 18" via 8" Rock. Hint.

Have several 20-inchers too and they assuredly is no fhuqking slouch. Been flogging on The Electric Chair purty good this pass and it's 20" spout grooves on 40's at 3950fps('335 of course). It's Twistchow,which is the only fhuqking reason it don't eat 75's like all of the rest.

10" PN.

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THE Rock is 21" and is a phenom with 50's at 3750fps('335 of course). Again,it is Twistchow...so no 75's there. In nice conditions,it'll stay well under 2" at the 500yd line and happens to be one of the Legendary Egg Rifles.

1-14" Hart.

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My Rocktucky happens to be 21" too and it lives on 75's at 3150fps('335 of course). 1-7" contour dupe,shortened a CH from OEM and Mike do cut rifling better than anyone else. Easy for me to say,as I've got 'em all. Hint.

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Sporty Spice is a 1-8" 3-grooved PN and has long thrived on 75 A-Max at 3150fps.

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My Samtucky(OEM spout left in 223 SAAMI as issued),squirts 75A-Max at 2875fps from it's 22" spout.

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20,21 and 22" 'tucky's. Brux,Rock and OEM.

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I could prolly go on and on....and on.(grin) But I'm on pins & fhuqking needles awaiting the harrowingly fascinating "details" of the highly vaunted Dented Barn Chronicles. Laughing! That despite my having much more than a "hunch",that it'll be a rather fhuqking awkward silence and them "particulars" will remain "Proprietary".

The Paper Hat Brigade's Secret Squirrel schit,is reliably THE most hilarious of their efforts. Wow +P+!!!

9" remains THE .224" bastard twist rate,in that nothing is for certain in it's regard. Some will make 75 A-Max sing and some won't,then atmospherics can skew same and piss in the punch. There isn't a better platform from which to fling that bullet from(Montucky) and that bullet simply has no fhuqking equal. If an OEM spout will pinwheel same in OEM guise in one's atmosphere,be thankful and box 'er up and head 'er out,to be setback and punched out. It's pre-established stability will only be bolstered by the RPM increase inherent of increased velocity. Once it's back in grubby mitts,it's hardly daunting to move the magbox shim to arrange 75gr smooches and land chasing,as well as shortening the ejector.

You've been led to water.

Hint.

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Steelhead,

I've mentioned more than once,that I'd not let JKobble rebarrel a milkshake,with a fresh straw.

Them constants...remain constant...................(grin)













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Originally Posted by Big Stick



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C-Note will grant 3075fps in formed cases with 75A-Max at 18" via 8" Rock. Hint.







Jkob do that one........


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Quick load says YES!!!


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Originally Posted by prairie_goat
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Originally Posted by prairie_goat
Try 70 grain VLDs in your current rifle. If they shoot well (and there's a good chance they will), you'll save a bunch of money dinking around with a new barrel. You will never see the difference between a standard 223 and the Ackley in the field.


Thanks for the recommendation, if I remember correctly did you buy a Kimber Montana that was rechambered to 223 AI? What were your experiences with it, accuracy modifications, loads etc if you don't mind sharing. Maybe you still have it, you may PM me if you'd rather not share here.

Thanks


BurninDupont,

I had a 223 AI Montana for a while. Was a very nice rifle, but didn't see a darned bit of difference between it and the 8 twist extended mag 223 AI I had at the same time. Or a 9 twist 223. This was on targets, prairie dogs, etc., out to 500+ yards. Occasionally out quite a bit further for fun.

I'll try and dig through my data and see what worked in that rifle; don't remember off the top of my head. Will get back to you.



Okay thank you I would appreciate that.

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You are the one that taught me to get a bull barrel, because I don't want a cow barrel.


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