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If big 7's and 30's are what you think it takes for a DRT on deer then you're too stupid to figure out that a 22-250 and 75 A max is a great deer load. And that's a fugging fact.

And yours would fit better on the campfire forum. How many times does this need to be hashed out on here? The OP didn't come on asking about viability of a certain cartridge/bullet combo. He asked for specific load data. The effectiveness of centerfire .224 rounds with the proper bullets and placement has been proven in word and picture literally hundreds of times on here. If you want to hunt deer with a 375 for that extra measure of "insurance" have at it, it's certainly your prerogative. But you don't need a .30 or 7mm to get a fast kill on phoucing deer.

I find it amusing how kids kill WT's DRT with .223's, but adults need "real" BG rifles to kill a 120# WT doe.

BTW, just got back from an all morning range session. My 8 twist .22-250 Mohawk/Shilen shot 80 gr. Amax's into very small groups, even smaller than 75 gr. Amax's. It didn't do as well with TSX's.

At least I now have some direction regarding load development.

DF

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAAHHAHAHAH, your such a comedian, I was just stating my opinion you dumbass farmer, just like the OP. Your too stupid to figure out that 22 calibers were developed for varmints, but try and make it a big game rifle, get you a damn man's rifle boy and grow up u puzze. Oh yea I almost forgot to GFY!!!

Not going to waste my time on you.

You just did stud.

Anyone saying a .224 bullet of good design at a decent velocity won't kill a WT or similar size critter just hasn't been there, done that. End of story.

Below are photos of the Mohawk with CM 22" #2 Shilen 8 twist .22-250 tube. I glassed and free floated it. I kept the same stock and plastic bottom "metal", replaced the factory trigger with a Timney. I Dyna Bore Coated the barrel, took it to the range and shot it. That's how I "break in" a new barrel. Back at the shop, there was some copper fouling that went away, Hawkeye clean, with 3 soaking applications of Patch Out.

Best load was 80 gr. Amax ahead of 34 gr. 760. I didn't set up the chrono, was just wanting to get an idea what would shoot. This combo shot three into .407". I know, three shots. But, I was just doing a survey, looking for direction on future load development. Best 75gr. Amax loads were 35 gr. Big Game (.625"), 38.1 gr. Superperformance (.576"), 33 gr. RL-15 (.657"). These are running around 3,200 fps, based on published data. Superperformance reportedly will crank a 75 gr. slug to 3,400 fps. I kept these loads at around 3.2K for comparison. The 80 gr. load is reportedly 3K fps.

This gun doesn't seem to like TSX's.

I mounted a VX-3 1.5-6x32 with CDS. These scopes don't come with CDS, I had sent it back. Cranked to the Fire magic 6X, it did very well at a hundred. At low power, it's a great offhand gun.

These groups were shot off the tailgait of a Z-71. No telling how good this gun would shoot off the aluminum tailgate of a new F-150...

DF

For a 'not' long range walking and shooting rifle I'd look to the 70 gr TSX and IMR 7828 ssc, "working up" to around 45 grs should give you an accurate 3550 fps.

Aught to be a descent little killing missile for deer and pigs too.

So far, it loves Amax, especially 80's. The Barnes I've tried (55 and 62 gr.) were a bust. I had some 70 TSX's, but sold them as I had no use for them at the time. Probably should have kept them.

Thanks, gunner.

DF

The 80 Berger is a real accurate bullet too DF. Killed quite a few things with it too.

Gruff's fast twist 22-250 is a Mohawk as well. Good shooting rifle.




Travis

Just another city bitch.




Travis

It shot 75 VLD Hunting very well, haven't tried 80 VLD's. The 75 VLD's just didn't keep up with 80 and 75 Amax's, and in that order.

DF

Although not set up per se as a LR rifle, a .22-250 shooting 80 Amax's, half MOA, may benefit from the CDS for that occasional shot at 400 yds+. You never know; it's nice to be prepared.

Where I hunt, sometimes a porcine target of opportunity presents at a distance. Driving to the camp requires several miles on a levee road with borrow pits on the river side and large fields on the protected side. A truck gun that can be cranked to long yardage may make life tedious for such an interloper...

All the landowners along the way are more than happy to have that service performed.

This is a walking around, light rifle that can be pressed into LR service at a moments notice. That's my current thinking on this subject. I say "current thinking" because that's the Loony position on most any firearm project...

DF

DF, I set mine up originally in 22-250ai with a 1-8 as an experiment to see if the fast twist .22s were all they were cracked up to be. It proved to be that they are, and more. With that ai barrel I had on it I had more than one first round prairie dog hit at 600, and plenty of pdogs past that, and lots of gophers and such in between. This with a #3 Douglas. I got tired of the ai brass getting stuck in the bolt raceway and so when accuracy started tapering off I rebarreled to vanilla 22-250 same twist and I'm getting the same speeds. I honestly did not expect that level of accuracy from a this rifle when I put it together, but I damn sure didn't mind it. I'd never shot any kind of LR before, and the $200 Burris i had on there left me nothing to complain about. Wish I'd have bought a couple more of them when they went on sale.

Clarke's shoots pretty damn good too, but it's not cool enough to have a dog leg bolt handle.

Yep.

Takes a real man to be seen with a bolt handle like that...

DF

Sweet. Another Ex-spurt.....made all the better, and more difficult by never having shot big game with a centerfire .22


Amazing!

Yep, DRT reportedly requires a big 7 or 30...

What about DRT's with a small 7 or 30?

What about DRT's with a .243 or a .257R?

Guess I gotta unload the newly finished Roberts and this .22-250.

Wish I'd have known that before going to all the trouble, putting these two guns together...

DF