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Why “LET IT BURN!?”

Fair enough. I’ll answer, but be prepared for some background.

I, along with much of my family, gave up on politics in 2012. I showed up, voted for sheriff, and wrote in “Hemp Ropes and Streetlights” for president. I then voted against every other incumbent on the ballot. Didn’t care who or what. If they were in offices, I voted against’em.

In 2014, I saw the Republican party Sweep congress and local legislatures. I again abstained, as I listened to their mush talk and watched their destruction of tea-party challengers – I knew a back-stab was in the works. You don’t ship in democrat voters to kill off a primary challenger when your political wing is getting ready to play on the level.

As expected, I was proven right when the Republicans and their leadership proceeded to betray every promise they made and every principle they claimed to uphold during the election of 2014. It became obvious they were not only incorrigible but willfully irredeemable as well. They liked what they were, and “shut up crazy hobbits.”

Even Ted Cruz, who I had some hope for, wiffled and waffled, allowing key votes to proceed, supporting the president’s trade authority until they had enough votes for him to “pretend” to change his mind. He also gave deceptive and weaselly answers on immigration – code words for support. That position evolved too, but my heart was already hard, and he blew his chance. Sucker me for decades… shame on me… sucker me after that… hah… fat chance.

When I saw Cruz playing the same games as the rest of them (Paul, Lee, etc.), while trying to mount the “I’m an outsider" wagon, I knew immediately there is not now, nor will there ever be, salvation for this nation coming from the Republican party. I intrinsically understood they will corrupt, co-opt or destroy anyone in their ranks who would truly and effectually change the system. The primary system has been proven an obscene joke, and our congress has deliberately handed all of it’s power to the executive to make absolutely certain it can feign impotence into perpetuity.

Given that realization, I made my choice:

Kill it.

The Republican party has become a big fat weed growing in Liberty’s pepper pot. It’s sucking all the nutrients from the soil, hogging the sunlight and using all it’s might – in willful collusion with the Media and Democrats – to crush anything that might upset the status quo – and consequently our slide into tyranny.

The arrival of some demagogue to commence the culling was inevitable. On cue, along rode Trump. He’s practically the 4th rider of the apocalypse in the eyes of the gentry. Brash, loud, outspoken – a natural rabble-rouser and born counter-puncher - with fame and money enough to go completely rogue. He looked at the bloody gash the RePubliCAN’T leadership nurtured, marched right out into the middle of the festering, gaping tear, and planted his flag like a Spanish Conquistador.

The entire establishment, from their owners in the Chamber of Commerce to their paid goons like Ed Driscoll recoiled in horror as their entire game of “divide-the-conservative-base-like-an-onion” blew up on their faces. They gathered their finest actors and immediately attempted their OTHER favorite game:

“Outrage Theater.”

It failed – dramatically so. Nothing the Republican gentry throws sticks, because we’ve been taught to hate them, (though years of abuse and neglect), and we’ve been taught to distrust the media too. All people like Allahpundit, Megyn Kelly and Erik Erikson have done is add themselves to a list of people we routinely ignore and write off. I for one don’t care if Trump’s a serial waffler – or what he says when slapping down mouthy media-jack-boots. One does not expect their wrecking-ball to be nuanced or subtle. Blunt-force trauma to be expected – and even encouraged.

I love that TheDONALD(TM) is obliterating, enraging and humiliating the people who promised so much and delivered so little. He’s tearing the fracture in the Republican party wide open – probably irreparably. I can’t summon the will to care overmuch. The RNC very well might die from this wound – it’s deep, long and septic. I am completely resolved to this outcome – because the Republicans are choking off the sunlight and fertilizer – they are taking up space and preventing some folks TRULY interested in liberty from growing.

Maybe that means the DemonRats run amok for a decade. I simply shrug. Once, years ago… that threat held meaning. It was a legitimate consideration when voting. But given the arrogance, condescension, (and most importantly, the track record), of the last Republican President, the Republican Congress and the witless Republican Controlled Supreme Court, I can officially declare the Prog-Nazi boogie man DEAD.

“At this point… what difference does it make?”

“None” we say to ourselves. The GOP apologists then proceed to go apoplectic, filling the internet with their rage and bile – spamming Hot Air, The National Review Online, The Wall Street Journal and PJ Media with unvarnished rage directed at us unclean traitors. Oh well. We’ve been the front line in the culture wars for decades. They won’t be saying anything the commentators on MSNBC haven’t already shrieked at us – our hides are thick and calloused – from years of Republican snake bites. It’s doubtful we’ll much note this latest abuse.

Back in the real world, Obama still get’s his entire agenda – no matter who’s running congress or sitting on the Supreme Court. At least with the moonbat wreckers in charge, we have to endure less “failure theater” and insults to our intellect.

2014 was your last chance to do as you were told Republicans – you instead took it as an opportunity to give the Chamber of Commerce a hand-job. We got the message – and brought the gasoline.

You are now witnessing the utter collapse of your political party… and your executioner is a blustering reality-show host.

It would seem that history has a sense of humor.

http://www.dethguild.com/why-vote-let-it-burn/


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Followup rant:

My comment: It didn't work, Fox; in fact, it blew up in your face.

What is being misunderstood is that this is not so much about Trump as it is about the Republican party, which has lied repeatedly over the last several decades and, when in power, has failed to deliver on any of its promises despite having the ability to do so.

The mealy-mouthed games have finally awakened the people of this country who understand that there is a Constitution and it has meaning -- the original meaning in the words, not some load of crap after-the-fact that happens to be convenient for you at the time.

The cuckservative games, whether condescending crap that spews repeatedly from John McCain, the crying of Boehner, the outright lies of Ryan and McMorris- Rodgers and more have finally reached the point that the people of this country with a view toward the original intent and wisdom of the founders of this nation, never mind the Republican structure of our government, have simply had enough.

We're not going to vote for another McCain, no matter what name he has. We're not going to vote for a Bush who takes credit for a Florida "economic miracle" that was in fact all built on housing market leverage, liar loans and illegal mexican labor. We're not going to vote for those who claim to be opposed to virtually every program President Obama has championed and led yet while holding the power of the purse to stop every last one of them they were instead funded, continued and expanded! We're not going to vote for a Doctor who refuses to raise and debate the issue of outrageous monopoly interests that drive the price of medical care up by 10x what it should cost, and why the people involved are not under indictment and in prison rather than driving around in a Mercedes. And we're not interested in the excuses coming from the various orifices of these candidates while they bow before the Koch Brothers and their money, or show up at Redstate when its leader bars Trump from coming after he, and the media, charged him with using words he never spoke, turning a well-justified riposte for an uncivil and intentionally dishonest attack put forward by the big corporate media into words he never uttered.

We, those of mind such as myself and others, simply refuse to play this "but if you don't vote for our jackass, evil though he may be, Hillary will win" game any more. This garbage was run with McCain in 2008 and Romney in 2012, and it's not happening again. I voted for Cthulu last time for this very reason and vowed to never again lend support or assistance to any such crap by the cuckservative Republicans -- then or in the future. I meant it.

Yes, this means that if Trump is improperly treated by the Republican Party and/or their media affiliates and as a result he decides to run on a third party or independent ticket, an act he certainly can do and fund himself, I will vote for him. If you think I fail to understand the consequence of this you're wrong; my intent is to destroy the Cuckservative party now masquerading as "Republican", and I'm not alone.

Yes, that is a threat Mr. Boehner, Mr. Ryan, Mr. McConnell, Ms. McMorris- Rodgers and all of the rest of you. It is a lawful and political threat. It is a gigantic "**** you" middle finger in your direction, exactly as I expressed in plain language to a McMorris-Rodgers staffer after all of you folded in the debt ceiling debacle rather than doing what you were elected to, and promised to, do.

I will accept no more excuses nor will I accept any more lies. I am done and so are millions of others who identify as Conservative. You are not conservatives, you are cuckservatives, sellouts, frauds, liars and thieves and you will either reform now and turn back all of what you have done to destroy this republic, federalism and the rights guaranteed to us under the Constitution before you ask for my vote once again or I, and millions of others, will take every legal political action available to us to destroy YOU.

THAT is what this -- and Trump's popularity -- is about.


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Originally Posted by gonehuntin
Why “LET IT BURN!?”

Fair enough. I’ll answer, but be prepared for some background.

I, along with much of my family, gave up on politics in 2012. I showed up, voted for sheriff, and wrote in “Hemp Ropes and Streetlights” for president. I then voted against every other incumbent on the ballot. Didn’t care who or what. If they were in offices, I voted against’em.

In 2014, I saw the Republican party Sweep congress and local legislatures. I again abstained, as I listened to their mush talk and watched their destruction of tea-party challengers – I knew a back-stab was in the works. You don’t ship in democrat voters to kill off a primary challenger when your political wing is getting ready to play on the level.

As expected, I was proven right when the Republicans and their leadership proceeded to betray every promise they made and every principle they claimed to uphold during the election of 2014. It became obvious they were not only incorrigible but willfully irredeemable as well. They liked what they were, and “shut up crazy hobbits.”

Even Ted Cruz, who I had some hope for, wiffled and waffled, allowing key votes to proceed, supporting the president’s trade authority until they had enough votes for him to “pretend” to change his mind. He also gave deceptive and weaselly answers on immigration – code words for support. That position evolved too, but my heart was already hard, and he blew his chance. Sucker me for decades… shame on me… sucker me after that… hah… fat chance.

When I saw Cruz playing the same games as the rest of them (Paul, Lee, etc.), while trying to mount the “I’m an outsider" wagon, I knew immediately there is not now, nor will there ever be, salvation for this nation coming from the Republican party. I intrinsically understood they will corrupt, co-opt or destroy anyone in their ranks who would truly and effectually change the system. The primary system has been proven an obscene joke, and our congress has deliberately handed all of it’s power to the executive to make absolutely certain it can feign impotence into perpetuity.

Given that realization, I made my choice:

Kill it.

The Republican party has become a big fat weed growing in Liberty’s pepper pot. It’s sucking all the nutrients from the soil, hogging the sunlight and using all it’s might – in willful collusion with the Media and Democrats – to crush anything that might upset the status quo – and consequently our slide into tyranny.

The arrival of some demagogue to commence the culling was inevitable. On cue, along rode Trump. He’s practically the 4th rider of the apocalypse in the eyes of the gentry. Brash, loud, outspoken – a natural rabble-rouser and born counter-puncher - with fame and money enough to go completely rogue. He looked at the bloody gash the RePubliCAN’T leadership nurtured, marched right out into the middle of the festering, gaping tear, and planted his flag like a Spanish Conquistador.

The entire establishment, from their owners in the Chamber of Commerce to their paid goons like Ed Driscoll recoiled in horror as their entire game of “divide-the-conservative-base-like-an-onion” blew up on their faces. They gathered their finest actors and immediately attempted their OTHER favorite game:

“Outrage Theater.”

It failed – dramatically so. Nothing the Republican gentry throws sticks, because we’ve been taught to hate them, (though years of abuse and neglect), and we’ve been taught to distrust the media too. All people like Allahpundit, Megyn Kelly and Erik Erikson have done is add themselves to a list of people we routinely ignore and write off. I for one don’t care if Trump’s a serial waffler – or what he says when slapping down mouthy media-jack-boots. One does not expect their wrecking-ball to be nuanced or subtle. Blunt-force trauma to be expected – and even encouraged.

I love that TheDONALD(TM) is obliterating, enraging and humiliating the people who promised so much and delivered so little. He’s tearing the fracture in the Republican party wide open – probably irreparably. I can’t summon the will to care overmuch. The RNC very well might die from this wound – it’s deep, long and septic. I am completely resolved to this outcome – because the Republicans are choking off the sunlight and fertilizer – they are taking up space and preventing some folks TRULY interested in liberty from growing.

Maybe that means the DemonRats run amok for a decade. I simply shrug. Once, years ago… that threat held meaning. It was a legitimate consideration when voting. But given the arrogance, condescension, (and most importantly, the track record), of the last Republican President, the Republican Congress and the witless Republican Controlled Supreme Court, I can officially declare the Prog-Nazi boogie man DEAD.

“At this point… what difference does it make?”

“None” we say to ourselves. The GOP apologists then proceed to go apoplectic, filling the internet with their rage and bile – spamming Hot Air, The National Review Online, The Wall Street Journal and PJ Media with unvarnished rage directed at us unclean traitors. Oh well. We’ve been the front line in the culture wars for decades. They won’t be saying anything the commentators on MSNBC haven’t already shrieked at us – our hides are thick and calloused – from years of Republican snake bites. It’s doubtful we’ll much note this latest abuse.

Back in the real world, Obama still get’s his entire agenda – no matter who’s running congress or sitting on the Supreme Court. At least with the moonbat wreckers in charge, we have to endure less “failure theater” and insults to our intellect.

2014 was your last chance to do as you were told Republicans – you instead took it as an opportunity to give the Chamber of Commerce a hand-job. We got the message – and brought the gasoline.

You are now witnessing the utter collapse of your political party… and your executioner is a blustering reality-show host.

It would seem that history has a sense of humor.

http://www.dethguild.com/why-vote-let-it-burn/


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So far, you can always choose to be part of the problem, until the problem gets enough power to say otherwise. Thanks to people like you, that day is closer.


We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?

Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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Lot's of people are coming around.

I've seen it right here on this forum over the past 10 years.

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In my book, if you don't vote you can't bitch!!!!! However, R's & D's really do look like different cheeks of the same ass.

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Originally Posted by CraigD
In my book, if you don't vote you can't bitch!!!!! However, R's & D's really do look like different cheeks of the same ass.


McStain LOST in 2008 because too many White people stayed home. Romney LOST in 2012 because too many White people stayed home. Name the voting block that NO Republican will reach out to by name?? How simple for Ted Cruz (or even Donald Trump) to say "I want the White voters to vote for me, and here's why....". But this is just one of a multitude of problems with the dysfunctional GOP. Let it burn, let it burn, let it burn........

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...8-5870-11e4-bd61-346aee66ba29_story.html



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Originally Posted by CraigD
In my book, if you don't vote you can't bitch!!!!! However, R's & D's really do look like different cheeks of the same ass.


McStain LOST in 2008 because too many White people stayed home. Romney LOST in 2012 because too many White people stayed home. Name the voting block that NO Republican will reach out to by name?? How simple for Ted Cruz (or even Donald Trump) to say "I want the White voters to vote for me, and here's why....". But this is just one of a multitude of problems with the dysfunctional GOP. Let it burn, let it burn, let it burn........

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...8-5870-11e4-bd61-346aee66ba29_story.html



Technically, they lost because the TAXPAYERS stayed home. The recipient class, and there are a LOT of white people in that class, voted with the rest of the F.S.A. (Free Schit Army).


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America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Originally Posted by CraigD
In my book, if you don't vote you can't bitch!!!!!


Your book is missing the part about the First Amendment.

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Lot's of people are coming around.

I've seen it right here on this forum over the past 10 years.


Only to watch the train wreck.


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If they some how push another Bush out front, there will be fire crash and burn fire, I will throw a can of gas on it too!


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Originally Posted by CraigD
In my book, if you don't vote you can't bitch!!!!! However, R's & D's really do look like different cheeks of the same ass.


I had a hard time letting go of the first notion but it's easy to recognize the latter.

Put them together and you have an untenable position, unless you consider the first point.

Given the undeniable truth of the second statement could it be that our long held misconception on voting was 180 degrees off? Could it be the very act of voting lends credibility to the joke that the parties (and the whole system) have become?

Could it be that voting itself is now the opiate that placates the masses? The semi-annual ritual of sacrifice necessary for the ruling class to "earn" our consent to rule?

That's where I'm heading... Voting is the problem; if you vote you are giving your approval to the system and therefore you can't bitch when they ass rape you.

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Don't forget Rep Justin Amash here in Western Michigan.

He not only voted in a way consistent with the Constitution but posted his reasoning on FaceBook, earning the ire of the Party and ultimately blocking him from a chairmanship. When reelection time came the Party backed a liberal hack who attempted to paint Amash as a leftist... And was soundly defeated despite big money and party backing.

The Party cares not a bit for principles; only for power. They'd certainly rather throw the election than allow Trump or anyone who's upset the apple cacti to office.

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Originally Posted by CraigD
In my book, if you don't vote you can't bitch!!!!! However, R's & D's really do look like different cheeks of the same ass.


I had a hard time letting go of the first notion but it's easy to recognize the latter.

Put them together and you have an untenable position, unless you consider the first point.

Given the undeniable truth of the second statement could it be that our long held misconception on voting was 180 degrees off? Could it be the very act of voting lends credibility to the joke that the parties (and the whole system) have become?

Could it be that voting itself is now the opiate that placates the masses? The semi-annual ritual of sacrifice necessary for the ruling class to "earn" our consent to rule?

That's where I'm heading... Voting is the problem; if you vote you are giving your approval to the system and therefore you can't bitch when they ass rape you.


Yeah. I guess the ability to bitch trumps scotus appointments anytime.


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This happens on both sides, look how Schumer is being black balled by our enemies.

Look how the Bush and Clinton families are all buddies, the American voter has to be the laughing stock of the world.

There ain't a shot glass full of difference between the two parties when you're dippin it out of a five gallon bucket.


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Originally Posted by Old_Toot

Yeah. I guess the ability to bitch trumps scotus appointments anytime.


John Roberts???

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Originally Posted by Old_Toot

Yeah. I guess the ability to bitch trumps scotus appointments anytime.


Yeah, Thank goodness we had Roberts in there to 86 Obamacare.


Edited: Beat me by a second, with pics

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You left out a few.


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Originally Posted by Old_Toot

Yeah. I guess the ability to bitch trumps scotus appointments anytime.


Yeah, Thank goodness we had Roberts in there to 86 Obamacare.


Edited: Beat me by a second, with pics


Exactly.

Again, if the system has become the cover for tyranny participation in the system is tantamount to blessing tyranny.

If you see things differently old toot you're free to do so, but it is what it is and Roberts is a perfect case-in-point for my position.

Breyers too.


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Simple OP, if you don't vote. my vote will count twice.


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