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We have a "Fielder's Choice" opportunities here in Georgia for hogs, so I'm thinking of handgun hunting. What do you guys think of this in 454 Casull? [img] http://www.lipseys.net/images/0871.jpg?maxwidth=520[/img]
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Jorge, that sure gives you a lot of options. I think a 45lc is plenty for hogs. Hasbeen
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Nothing wrong with that choice... If I was going that big however, and reloaded, I would go the .480 in the same gun. Run a 350-400 grain boolit at a 1000 fps is all you need. A friend had a FA .475 and all he shot was the Medium Buffalo Bore round that was only going 950...and it killed hogs, deer and turkey with no recovered bullets...
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I'd agree, if you can't get it done with a 45 Colt, it don't need to be done.
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I'd agree, if you can't get it done with a 45 Colt, it don't need to be done.
But you only need to make yourself happy. This. A 270 grain WFN at around 1050 to 1100 will punch through anything you ever need to shoot with a handgun without being an obnoxious prick to shoot. That recipe is simple: Ruger BH .45LC, 5.5" barrel or better, 10.0 grains Unique, 270 LBT WFN.
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Well, the good thing is that it can also shoot the 45 Colt as well and I have that load to use already in my 45 Vaquero. A friend of mine in Africa has used his FA Casull with solids to whack buffalo with it and I just thought, why not!
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A 270 grain WFN at around 1050 to 1100 will punch through anything you ever need to shoot with a handgun without being an obnoxious prick to shoot.
The 270 SAA (casts 280 with wheelweights) is a real mf'er at 1,100 fps. On the business end, that is. Pretty easy to shoot, but even my RBH is a long barrel.
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your pic
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The .480 makes (slightly) bigger holes
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JorgeI - why stop with the Casull? The .460 S&W will allow you to shoot .45 Schofield, .45 Colt, the .454 Casull and the .460 S&W going from smallest to largest. What's not to like? Homesteader
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...I think a 45lc is plenty for hogs... Plus it is a whole order of magnitude cheaper to shoot and less abusive to the shooter.
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Well, the good thing is that it can also shoot the 45 Colt as well and I have that load to use already in my 45 Vaquero. A friend of mine in Africa has used his FA Casull with solids to whack buffalo with it and I just thought, why not! Of course it can, in 1/2lb+ package. It's kind of like a 3 1/2" 12 gauge to me. Great, you can shoot every shell none to mankind in it, but I have no need for 3 1/2" shells.
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I think your taste for biggest, loudest, fastest is leading you to more handgun than you need. But what does need have to do with it?
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The 454 Casull is the 378 Weatherby of the revolver world. Give me a 45 Colt, properly loaded, any day.
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I'd agree, if you can't get it done with a 45 Colt, it don't need to be done.
But you only need to make yourself happy. This. A 270 grain WFN at around 1050 to 1100 will punch through anything you ever need to shoot with a handgun without being an obnoxious prick to shoot. That recipe is simple: Ruger BH .45LC, 5.5" barrel or better, 10.0 grains Unique, 270 LBT WFN. Word. A friend of mine has 454's, and 475 & 500 Linebaughs. If I remember right he does a lot of killing with various cast slugs at 900-1000 fps.
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I would not at all be feeling undergunned with that one in the pic in .45 Colt.
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I would not at all be feeling undergunned with that one in the pic in .45 Colt. And you wouldn't even need to load the 45 Colt to its full capability in that revolver.
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Of the new I would go 480. That said my most used hog gun is an Old Model Super Blackhawk throwing 280 gr WFN's at 1050 fps. Hogs die easy.
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The 454 is a very nice handgun. But it also shoots 45 Colts very well. Maybe Whitworth (Max) will put up a target he shot with the 454, using 45 Colt ammo. 5 Shots in approx an inch at 50 yards. (Scoped I believe). I personally like the 480, I've got a few 454's and mostly shoot Buffalo Bore 45 Colt through them. Those will handle literally anything in North America. But what I really like is Ruger making a great Bisley with here to fore unavailable calibers in anything but F/A or BFR' or Customs. What I'm saying is get what ever pleases you. The 454 recoil is more substantial. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llD8VAVO3cE
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For a while I owned both a 454 and a 45 colt. My colt is a Ruger Bisley. I loaded both to max - and sold the 454. In my 5.5" Bisley, I get an honest 1250 with a 300 gr hard cast. Recoil is sharp but not not excessive. My 454 struggled to get much over 1350 with the same bullet and produced more recoil. I know people run the 454 harder but I couldn't make mine do it with sane loads.
To replace the 454, I bought a BFR in 475 L. That is a bigger hammer. I run mine with either 325 Speer at 1350 or a 420 BTB WFNGC at about 1250. Both recoil significantly but are not as bad as you would think but neither load is max for the Linebaugh either. I don't see the need to run the 400 to 1400. I've shot them there but I find 1250 recoils less and seriously doubt an animal will know the difference. A 400 grain 475 Linebaugh is a mighty impressive cartridge.
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