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I have Picture of the same area. Did you find the Juniper log cabin? Or the Cabin built into rock by Corral, Rock house in bottom of canyon. Interesting country
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Nope, just blasted through looking around, Whitehorse 1 Antelope tag. Quick scouting trip, two days and 1000 miles. No wolves but sprayed lead at a couple already educated coyotes in the vicinity. Drove home in the evening, saw several more coyotes, one up in the Silvies Unit met his maker, he was young and dumb and it cost him dearly. Wife did the initial spotting and again when he came back out of the tall grass cover; Pretty much the pinnacle of our marriage! Here's a shot looking "into" Oregon. ![[Linked Image]](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kax_C9QycxY/Vb_yx5or8mI/AAAAAAAAGXI/KBtqGANGg-Q/s640-Ic42/P1000891aa.jpg)
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Even the roaded areas out there are very remote and get little use. For example, the NV part is where that couple from Canada a couple years ago believed their GPS and took off through Idaho into NV. They slid off the road and got stuck in some snow. The man walked for help and it was over a year before a hunter found his body. The woman stayed with the van where some hunters found her still alive 7 weeks later. That's not a whole lot of traffic.
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I'd like to get over there and look around. It's so far from anywhere even the buzzards pack a canteen and some lunch. I have an idea the fishing (down in the canyon) might be fun.
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When I was scouting Sheep in the Lower Owyhee, I had a flat. I (foolishly) only had one spare so decided I had better interrupt the trip to get a new tire. It was 186 miles one way (to Burns). Les Schwab was just getting ready to close. They didn't have an extra rim to give me 2 spares so I bought a new set of the toughest 10 ply that they had. The lava rock was wicked in places but no more tire problems.
We got back to my area well after dark. Jack Rabbits were like something out of an Alfred Hitchcock movie. I had my .22 Ruger pistol with an UltraDot on top. We shot Rabbits half the night. Aftrer the Sheep hunt I went back to the area a few times for Jack Rabbits -- but the next year they must have gotten Plague because the population plummeted. Wonderous Country.
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What year was that? Back in the early 70's, we had a jackrabbit plague. They were collapsing haystacks by eating their way under them. The road kill looked like a windshield after driving through a swarm of bugs. Then the population collapsed that winter and they never have come back in numbers even remotely like that.
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What year was that? Back in the early 70's, we had a jackrabbit plague. They were collapsing haystacks by eating their way under them. The road kill looked like a windshield after driving through a swarm of bugs. Then the population collapsed that winter and they never have come back in numbers even remotely like that. We had great JR hunting in 2006 and in '07 in waaay SE Oregon (Lower Owyhee Sheep Unit). In '08 they were mostly gone. I've hunted JRs near Plush since the late 70s and the population plummeted in that area in the mid-late '80s. We still go there to hunt, but it's never got back in population to where it was. In 1980, I started hunting Mule Deer near the Mid - Owyhee River. At first, Jack Rabbits were thick but were hard to find by the mid-80s, also.
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Since the 70's, they've done a lot to increase the populations of raptors. I think they keep the rabbit numbers way down. They have that National Birds of Prey area east of Boise where they've greatly increased the numbers of several species.
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We saw/shot lots of jacks the summer of '06 in NW UT. About 1.5 hrs from Burley. Next year they were largely gone. I think my best day that year was about 75-80. We went pretty regularly for about a month...
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Neither wolves nor jacks might be in that area before long. There's a real cooker going out there now, over 400 sq miles last I heard. We're buried in smoke 150 miles east of there.
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There's a long article in today's Bend Bulletin talking about making the whole area a National Monument.
Even back in '06 it was "under study" as a possible wilderness area.
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Part of the Idaho section is wilderness now, the Owyhee River Wilderness.
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A Wilderness full of Beef is not much of a wilderness.
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SE Oregon is very rugged, remote and vast. HUGE expanses of desert, deep canyons, etc. The area called the ION (Idaho, Oregon, Nevada), south of Jordan Valley, and over towards Silver City and south towards the Nevada line is mostly roadless. Yep. It is, simply, some badass f'kin' country. I've hunted Whitehorse.. plenty of dirt roads... not paved.... The SE corner of the state is awesome! plenty of coyotes to boot...you're definitely out in the wilds... I can believe there are wolf packs in there... there are more wolf packs than the State's Fish and Wildlife will admit to... I think they prefer to keep it listed as endangered...
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58gscott: Sad state of affairs for big game (Wolves migrating into an area!) and big game Hunters!
The transplanted Wolves DEVASTATED big game herds in many parts of Montana, Wyoming and Idaho!
And they have disrupted and significantly changed big game habits in many more ares.
Moose have also been decimated by Wolves in many areas where I Hunt Elk and Deer here in Montana and Deer!
The Wolves also predate on Bighorn Sheep.
NOTHING good comes from Wolf re-introductions and migrations in my estimation!
My family used to Hunt Mule Deer in eastern Oregon when I was child and a young man.
Back then (1950's and early 1960's) the Mule Deer herds were healthy and high in numbers (Coyotes were kept in check back then and NO Wolves then) - I have not Hunted thereabouts for a long time though.
If Wolves come the big game herds WILL suffer - its just that simple!
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CA proudly answered today that some Oregon Wolves have made it down there. They are waiting on DNA to confirm they are from the Oregon packs. Idiots there were reasons our grandfathers killed them. Now antis are happy not because they go sight seeing or they care about wolves Its because it will be another nail in huntings coffin
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California has its first wolf pack since the state's gray wolf population went extinct in 1924.
State and federal authorities announced Thursday that a remote camera captured photos earlier this month of two adults and five pups in southeastern Siskiyou County.
They were named the Shasta pack for nearby Mount Shasta.
The pack was discovered four years after the famous Oregon wandering wolf OR-7 first reached Northern California.
Karen Kovacs of the California Department of Fish and Wildlife said it was an amazing accomplishment for gray wolves to establish themselves in Northern California just 21 years after wolves were reintroduced in the Northern Rockies.
Those wolves eventually migrated into Oregon and Washington before reaching California, where they are protected by federal and state endangered species acts.
Just where these wolves, all black in color, came from will have to wait for DNA testing on scat at an Idaho lab, but it is likely they are a continuation of the increasing numbers of wolves migrating from Oregon's northeastern corner to the southern Cascade Range, Kovacs said.
Though the wolves have been spotted by local ranchers tending their herds, there have been no reports of wolf attacks on livestock, Kovacs said.
Kirk Wilbur, government affairs director for the California Stockmens Association, said ranchers remain worried about the potential for losing animals to wolves as their numbers increase.
Amaroq Weiss, of the conservation group with Center for Biological Diversity, said she was more worried the wolves could fall victim to hunters as hunting season gets underway.
Anticipating that wolves would migrate into the state, California declared them an endangered species last year, but the state Fish and Wildlife Department does not expect to have a management plan in force until the end of this year, Kovacs said.
The department has no goals for how many wolves might eventually live in California and no idea how many once lived in the state, she added. California's last known native wolf was killed in 1924 in neighboring Lassen County.
There are at least 5,500 gray wolves in the contiguous 48 states, according to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.http://www.foxnews.com/science/2015...ed-in-northern-california/?intcmp=hplnws
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There was a very good reason why we shot them off in the first place.
Game management by Washington DC and PC folks is a pretty poor idea.
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It's not game management and never has been. From the start the intro of wolves has been designed to reduce game animals to unhuntable numbers. It's just a very effective anti-hunting program. This isn't just my opinion. They've said so themselves. Spot on! What they can't do at the ballot box they do under some kind of reintroduction of an apex predator. Not hard to figure what they are up to.
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