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Now Kelly is trying to give Cruz the business on deporting illegals and he's having no part of it....she's losing support by the minute


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she's probably menstruating.


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I thought her approach was brilliant!


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Saw that. She was sure kissing up to Krispy Cream, though.

Fox needs to replace her with Shannon Bream or Martha MacCallum!


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Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
Now Kelly is trying to give Cruz the business on deporting illegals and he's having no part of it....she's losing support by the minute


Apples and oranges, Danny Boy. That $6 million per year is the only support she cares about.


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They need to screw that bitches head to an old freighter and sink em both.


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That'll happen as soon as people stop tuning in.


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Hey, here's an idea. Let's send a GOP candidate into the general election who has not been vetted. Let's let the other guys do the vetting for us. We know how kind and loving the party "of inclusiveness (except when you don't agree with us)" is. I'm sure they'll deal with our 'candidate' with the usual kid gloves. How's that worked out in the past?


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Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Saw that. She was sure kissing up to Krispy Cream, though.

Fox needs to replace her with Shannon Bream or Martha MacCallum!


Martha has been down on her knees, opening Krispy's zipper since 2012. sick

Shannon Bream has it all over Kelly...looks, intelligence, poise...

Kelly has an "I'm too sexy for everyone" attitude. She reminds me of the HS cheerleader who was elected class president...RAH! smirk


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Originally Posted by Klikitarik
Hey, here's an idea. Let's send a GOP candidate into the general election who has not been vetted. Let's let the other guys do the vetting for us. We know how kind and loving the party "of inclusiveness (except when you don't agree with us)" is. I'm sure they'll deal with our 'candidate' with the usual kid gloves. How's that worked out in the past?



Better yet; lets elect a candidate without a voting record grin
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Originally Posted by ltppowell
That'll happen as soon as people stop tuning in.


Hope they're tuning out by the millions.


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gunner, you're gonna make a helluva old man with a broke filter someday.

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Megyn Kelly looked like she had been ran through the ringer on TV tonight.

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The one I would pick would be Bream. Was a local TV personality/radio commentator around here for a few years and seemed to have her head screwed on straight. I have no idea if she's attractive as I only know her from radio.

Not sure how she's acting now that she's gone big time.

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Fox and Kelly are arrogant and stupid. They think that they shape opinion instead of respond to it. Like the Republican establishment, they are behind the curve as the ground has shifted under them. The rules have changed and they haven't realized it yet.

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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Megyn Kelly looked like she had been ran through the ringer on TV tonight.


She's feeling the heat. laugh

She's a AAA player, not a major-league star, IMO. Oootsie-Cutsie only goes so far.


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You gotta figure Trump has people trying to rape her and stuff too. It's has to be stressful.


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Just a few months ago She was the Darling of the campfire. The worm has turned.

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Originally Posted by BeanMan
Just a few months ago She was the Darling of the campfire. The worm has turned.


Don't fret. The media will tell them something different to think shortly.


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Yup and in another month or 2 the worm will have turned for someone else.

Interesting times.


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Oh man what a disappointment. I thought this posting was about them having an affair instead of beating that old dead horse about a reporter asking a politician controversial questions. Kinda like complaining because birds fly or fish swim

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I'm just glad Trump was smart enough to use Biden's son's identity on his Ashley Madison account.


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Well for one thing, we will surely know how they feel about the crease in his drawers.

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Originally Posted by ltppowell
You gotta figure Trump has people trying to rape her and stuff too. It's has to be stressful.


I think it's because she just got back from a hiatus to dial back the Trump stuff,....Trump's back at her, and Roger Ailes told her to put the heat on Cruz.

A 6 million dollar a year job as a propagandist ain't for sissies.

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So,why would not Cruz answer the question about illegals?

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I'm just glad Trump was smart enough to use Biden's son's identity on his Ashley Madison account.



Yep, and I'm glad I used yours. whistle whistle whistle


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Originally Posted by Cruiser1
So,why would not Cruz answer the question about illegals?


What was the question and what was his answer? I don't watch that crap.


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Is this it? Sounds reasonable to me. Anybody that says what they are going to do without congress is either an idiot or a criminal.
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Cruz was then asked, “if you have a husband and a wife who are illegal immigrants, and they have two children who are here, who are American citizens, would you deport all of them? Would you deport the American citizen children?”

He responded, “So, Megyn, what I’ve said is that we should approach immigration in a staged manner. We should start with focusing on areas of bipartisan agreement. Where is there bipartisan agreement? On two major areas. Number one, that we should do everything possible to secure the border and stop illegal immigration. And number two, to improve and streamline legal immigration.”

Kelly then cut in, “that doesn’t sound like an answer. Mr. Trump answered that question explicitly last night on ‘The O’Reilly Factor.’ Will you do so now?” Cruz stated, “Well, Megyn, what I’m doing is answering what I think Congress should do. What Congress should do, and I introduced legislation to do exactly this, triple the Border Patrol. Increase fourfold the fixed-wing and rotary-wing aircraft to monitor the border, put in place a strong biometic exit/entry system, because 40% of illegal immigration doesn’t come across the border, it’s visa overstays. Put in place a strong E-Verify system. And then this final piece is critical, actually have the federal government enforce the law.”

Kelly again cut in, “Senator, I understand all that, and you’ve outlined your plan, but you’re — unlike you, you’re dodging my question. You don’t want to answer that question. He says he would.” Cruz protested, “I’m not playing that game.”

After Kelly again asked whether the American citizen children of illegal immigrants would be deported under his policy, Cruz answered, “Megyn, I get that that’s the question you want to ask, that’s also the question every mainstream media liberal journalist wants to ask. They focus exclusively –.” Kelly then asked if such a question was “unfair.” Cruz maintained it’s “a distraction from how we actually solve the problem. You know, it’s also the question Barack Obama wants to focus on.”

Kelly asked why it was “so hard” for Cruz to give a yes or no answer. Cruz stated, “Because, Megyn, we need to solve the problem. And the way you solve the problem, is you focus where there’s bipartisan agreement first. Once we’ve secured the border, once we’ve actually proven we can do this, once we’ve stop the Obama administration’s policy of releasing 104,000 violent criminal illegal aliens in one year, once we’ve solved that problem, then we can have a debate, then we can have a conversation.”


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Originally Posted by Cruiser1
So,why would not Cruz answer the question about illegals?


I didn't watch, but sometimes a person doesn't answer a question because they don't agree with its premise.

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If he evaded it's because he is a politician indistinguishable from all the others. He is being counseled to be evasive on "hot-button" issues just like the rest of the professional pols.

I respect him greatly but he will not move this country forward and should be ignored heretofore.

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So,why would not Cruz answer the question about illegals?


What was the question and what was his answer? I don't watch that crap.

And that still hasn't stopped you from having an opinion.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Is this it? Sounds reasonable to me. Anybody that says what they are going to do without congress is either an idiot or a criminal.
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Cruz was then asked, “if you have a husband and a wife who are illegal immigrants, and they have two children who are here, who are American citizens, would you deport all of them? Would you deport the American citizen children?”

He responded, “So, Megyn, what I’ve said is that we should approach immigration in a staged manner. We should start with focusing on areas of bipartisan agreement. Where is there bipartisan agreement? On two major areas. Number one, that we should do everything possible to secure the border and stop illegal immigration. And number two, to improve and streamline legal immigration.”

Kelly then cut in, “that doesn’t sound like an answer. Mr. Trump answered that question explicitly last night on ‘The O’Reilly Factor.’ Will you do so now?” Cruz stated, “Well, Megyn, what I’m doing is answering what I think Congress should do. What Congress should do, and I introduced legislation to do exactly this, triple the Border Patrol. Increase fourfold the fixed-wing and rotary-wing aircraft to monitor the border, put in place a strong biometic exit/entry system, because 40% of illegal immigration doesn’t come across the border, it’s visa overstays. Put in place a strong E-Verify system. And then this final piece is critical, actually have the federal government enforce the law.”

Kelly again cut in, “Senator, I understand all that, and you’ve outlined your plan, but you’re — unlike you, you’re dodging my question. You don’t want to answer that question. He says he would.” Cruz protested, “I’m not playing that game.”

After Kelly again asked whether the American citizen children of illegal immigrants would be deported under his policy, Cruz answered, “Megyn, I get that that’s the question you want to ask, that’s also the question every mainstream media liberal journalist wants to ask. They focus exclusively –.” Kelly then asked if such a question was “unfair.” Cruz maintained it’s “a distraction from how we actually solve the problem. You know, it’s also the question Barack Obama wants to focus on.”

Kelly asked why it was “so hard” for Cruz to give a yes or no answer. Cruz stated, “Because, Megyn, we need to solve the problem. And the way you solve the problem, is you focus where there’s bipartisan agreement first. Once we’ve secured the border, once we’ve actually proven we can do this, once we’ve stop the Obama administration’s policy of releasing 104,000 violent criminal illegal aliens in one year, once we’ve solved that problem, then we can have a debate, then we can have a conversation.”



There's the premise I wouldn't agree with.

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I don't have to watch TV to know you're an idiot.


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I didn't watch it,....but that's about as wishy-washy as it gets.

People aren't buying that wishy-washy politician chit these days.


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Oh man what a disappointment. I thought this posting wa about them having an affair instead of beating that old dead horse about a reporter asking a politician controversial questions. Kinda like complaining because birds fly or fish swim


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If he evaded it's because he is a politician indistinguishable from all the others. He is being counseled to be evasive on "hot-button" issues just like the rest of the professional pols.

I respect him greatly but he will not move this country forward and should be ignored heretofore.


He didn't evade anything. He said he didn't know. There are a lot of obstacles to be overcome before that decision is even an option.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Is this it? Sounds reasonable to me. Anybody that says what they are going to do without congress is either an idiot or a criminal.
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Cruz was then asked, “if you have a husband and a wife who are illegal immigrants, and they have two children who are here, who are American citizens, would you deport all of them? Would you deport the American citizen children?”

He responded, “So, Megyn, what I’ve said is that we should approach immigration in a staged manner. We should start with focusing on areas of bipartisan agreement. Where is there bipartisan agreement? On two major areas. Number one, that we should do everything possible to secure the border and stop illegal immigration. And number two, to improve and streamline legal immigration.”

Kelly then cut in, “that doesn’t sound like an answer. Mr. Trump answered that question explicitly last night on ‘The O’Reilly Factor.’ Will you do so now?” Cruz stated, “Well, Megyn, what I’m doing is answering what I think Congress should do. What Congress should do, and I introduced legislation to do exactly this, triple the Border Patrol. Increase fourfold the fixed-wing and rotary-wing aircraft to monitor the border, put in place a strong biometic exit/entry system, because 40% of illegal immigration doesn’t come across the border, it’s visa overstays. Put in place a strong E-Verify system. And then this final piece is critical, actually have the federal government enforce the law.”

Kelly again cut in, “Senator, I understand all that, and you’ve outlined your plan, but you’re — unlike you, you’re dodging my question. You don’t want to answer that question. He says he would.” Cruz protested, “I’m not playing that game.”

After Kelly again asked whether the American citizen children of illegal immigrants would be deported under his policy, Cruz answered, “Megyn, I get that that’s the question you want to ask, that’s also the question every mainstream media liberal journalist wants to ask. They focus exclusively –.” Kelly then asked if such a question was “unfair.” Cruz maintained it’s “a distraction from how we actually solve the problem. You know, it’s also the question Barack Obama wants to focus on.”

Kelly asked why it was “so hard” for Cruz to give a yes or no answer. Cruz stated, “Because, Megyn, we need to solve the problem. And the way you solve the problem, is you focus where there’s bipartisan agreement first. Once we’ve secured the border, once we’ve actually proven we can do this, once we’ve stop the Obama administration’s policy of releasing 104,000 violent criminal illegal aliens in one year, once we’ve solved that problem, then we can have a debate, then we can have a conversation.”


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If he evaded it's because he is a politician indistinguishable from all the others. He is being counseled to be evasive on "hot-button" issues just like the rest of the professional pols.

I respect him greatly but he will not move this country forward and should be ignored heretofore.


He didn't evade anything. He said he didn't know. There are a lot of obstacles to be overcome before that decision is even an option.


Well,....maybe he needs to run for President after he knows what he's going to do about illegal immigration.

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Trump knows what he's going to do about it.

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He responded, “So, Megyn, what I’ve said is that we should approach immigration in a staged manner. We should start with focusing on areas of bipartisan agreement. Where is there bipartisan agreement? On two major areas. Number one, that we should do everything possible to secure the border and stop illegal immigration. And number two, to improve and streamline legal immigration.”




I think he's being realistic that there will still be democrats in congress after the upcoming elections.


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Originally Posted by Bristoe
I didn't watch it,....but that's about as wishy-washy as it gets.

People aren't buying that wishy-washy politician chit these days.



Right. It's better to scream "I"M DEPORTING THEM ALL..THEM CHINESE TOO, AND I'LL MAKE 'EM PAY THEIR OWN AIRFARE!".



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The polls seem to say it is.

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The bi tch wanted him to say "anchor baby"

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Well, I always heard a lie well told was better than the truth. Some of us just don't abide by it.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Well, I always heard a lie well told was better than the truth. Some of us just don't abide by it.


You abide the lies told by your preferred candidate.

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Pretty damn simple really!

"Yes....I'd deport all of them! The children have to remain under the guardianship of their parents therefore they must go back to Mexico or wherever until such time as their parents wish to come into the USA LEGALLY!!"


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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Trump knows what he's going to do about it.


What???
are we "electing" a f'ng King ?

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Originally Posted by Penobscot_99
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Trump knows what he's going to do about it.


What???
are we "electing" a f'ng King ?

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Originally Posted by Bristoe
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Well, I always heard a lie well told was better than the truth. Some of us just don't abide by it.


You abide the lies told by your preferred candidate.


Quite adept at breaking Reagan's Golden Rule! ain'tcha?

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You should have been here in '12 and '08.


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Damn it's obvious that this is going to be a f'ing mess no matter who gets the keys and pens.

Couple that with a lot of pissed off and disappointed voters. Hmmmmm.....

The last round was nothing in comparison to what I see coming.

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Originally Posted by ltppowell
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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Trump knows what he's going to do about it.


What???
are we "electing" a f'ng King ?

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A benevolent King, thank you.


I can't help it if your preferred candidate is a wishy-washy politician. But he doesn't have his own money to campaign with, so he can't be his own man.

It's the game. Cruz has to play it. Trump doesn't.

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Trump knows what he's going to do about it.


What???
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A benevolent King, thank you.


Benevolent and munificent. you're welcome.

Just wondering why Tr uuuuuuu mp never ran for public office in New Yawk?
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Pretty damn simple really!

"Yes....I'd deport all of them! The children have to remain under the guardianship of their parents therefore they must go back to Mexico or wherever until such time as their parents wish to come into the USA LEGALLY!!"


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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Trump knows what he's going to do about it.


No, Trump knows what you want to hear.







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Originally Posted by Bristoe
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Trump knows what he's going to do about it.


What???
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A benevolent King, thank you.


I can't help it if your preferred candidate is a wishy-washy politician. But he doesn't have his own money to campaign with, so he can't be his own man.

It's the game. Cruz has to play it. Trump doesn't.


It's not a "game" !

Bet Trump, if you asked him who said your tagline quote, you would get some hilarious response....
Bet Cruz would know it was Robert E. Lee
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Originally Posted by Bristoe
I can't help it if your preferred candidate is a wishy-washy politician. But he doesn't have his own money to campaign with, so he can't be his own man.

It's the game. Cruz has to play it. Trump doesn't.


TFF...now you understand the game? At this point in 2011 you swore that Ron Paul had it in the bag.


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I can't help it if your preferred candidate is a wishy-washy politician. But he doesn't have his own money to campaign with, so he can't be his own man.

It's the game. Cruz has to play it. Trump doesn't.


TFF...now you understand the game? At this point in 2011 you swore that Ron Paul had it in the bag.


No.

I never thought Ron Paul "had it in the bag" I appreciated him because he refused to play the game, but I always knew that he was a longshot,

Ron Paul tried to engage Americans at an intellectual level. He wanted to talk about Constitutional original intent and the failure of Keynesian economics.

Any candidate who attempts to engage Americans at an intellectual level is going to be a longshot.

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You should have been here in '12 and '08.


I can imagine... he's not getting any better

Sorta curmudgeonly and Ed Asner ish.

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"has to play the game"
"doesn't have to play the game"
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Originally Posted by Bristoe
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I can't help it if your preferred candidate is a wishy-washy politician. But he doesn't have his own money to campaign with, so he can't be his own man.

It's the game. Cruz has to play it. Trump doesn't.


TFF...now you understand the game? At this point in 2011 you swore that Ron Paul had it in the bag.




Any candidate who attempts to engage Americans at an intellectual level is going to be a longshot.



You're absolutely correct, Bristoe. This will continue to haunt Ben Carson and elevate the Trumpster.


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Any candidate who attempts to engage Americans at an intellectual level is going to be a longshot.


If this plays out in the election, we'll lose. Republicans are like the librarian always shushing everyone up. Democrats are the fun kids that make too much noise in the library.


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Now Kelly is trying to give Cruz the business on deporting illegals and he's having no part of it....she's losing support by the minute


Apples and oranges, Danny Boy. That $6 million per year is the only support she cares about.


Damn! For $500K per month we should be getting a lot more than what MK is bringing.


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Is this it? Sounds reasonable to me. Anybody that says what they are going to do without congress is either an idiot or a criminal.
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Cruz was then asked, “if you have a husband and a wife who are illegal immigrants, and they have two children who are here, who are American citizens, would you deport all of them? Would you deport the American citizen children?”

He responded, “So, Megyn, what I’ve said is that we should approach immigration in a staged manner. We should start with focusing on areas of bipartisan agreement. Where is there bipartisan agreement? On two major areas. Number one, that we should do everything possible to secure the border and stop illegal immigration. And number two, to improve and streamline legal immigration.”

Kelly then cut in, “that doesn’t sound like an answer. Mr. Trump answered that question explicitly last night on ‘The O’Reilly Factor.’ Will you do so now?” Cruz stated, “Well, Megyn, what I’m doing is answering what I think Congress should do. What Congress should do, and I introduced legislation to do exactly this, triple the Border Patrol. Increase fourfold the fixed-wing and rotary-wing aircraft to monitor the border, put in place a strong biometic exit/entry system, because 40% of illegal immigration doesn’t come across the border, it’s visa overstays. Put in place a strong E-Verify system. And then this final piece is critical, actually have the federal government enforce the law.”

Kelly again cut in, “Senator, I understand all that, and you’ve outlined your plan, but you’re — unlike you, you’re dodging my question. You don’t want to answer that question. He says he would.” Cruz protested, “I’m not playing that game.”

After Kelly again asked whether the American citizen children of illegal immigrants would be deported under his policy, Cruz answered, “Megyn, I get that that’s the question you want to ask, that’s also the question every mainstream media liberal journalist wants to ask. They focus exclusively –.” Kelly then asked if such a question was “unfair.” Cruz maintained it’s “a distraction from how we actually solve the problem. You know, it’s also the question Barack Obama wants to focus on.”

Kelly asked why it was “so hard” for Cruz to give a yes or no answer. Cruz stated, “Because, Megyn, we need to solve the problem. And the way you solve the problem, is you focus where there’s bipartisan agreement first. Once we’ve secured the border, once we’ve actually proven we can do this, once we’ve stop the Obama administration’s policy of releasing 104,000 violent criminal illegal aliens in one year, once we’ve solved that problem, then we can have a debate, then we can have a conversation.”



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Anybody that says what they are going to do without congress is either an idiot or a criminal.
Like the AIC??


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Amazing how many men are terrified of smart and capable women. Kelly's simply good at her job and she doesn't care whose ox is being gored, like any good journalist.


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Fox seems to have an agenda and thinks it can manipulate who the GOP candidate will be.Kelly doesn't like Trump and since Cruz agrees with much of Trumps rhetoric she isn't fond of Cruz.I hardly find that good journalism


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I hardly find that good journalism


We have not seen any impartial journalism for a long time. I don't expect any, any way soon since they are all taught at the same schools. miles


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Trump knows what he's going to do about it.


No he doesn't. The man is one huge hyberbole machine...


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Fox seems to have an agenda and thinks it can manipulate who the GOP candidate will be.Kelly doesn't like Trump and since Cruz agrees with much of Trumps rhetoric she isn't fond of Cruz.I hardly find that good journalism


That's assuming she's acting on her own

I doubt she's capable of that.

At this point, I think they sent her on vacation to protect her from the firestorm of Trump supporters who would get in her face immediately after the debate.

Now that she's back, Fox is doubling down on protecting their brand and taking Trump down in the process.

This is a big deal - because if Fox News succeeds, every candidate from here on out is going to kiss their ass and bow down to them - and if Trump succeeds, Fox News is rendered a propaganda machine and everyone will remember them trying to take out the GOP nominee


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Fox seems to have an agenda and thinks it can manipulate who the GOP candidate will be.Kelly doesn't like Trump and since Cruz agrees with much of Trumps rhetoric she isn't fond of Cruz.I hardly find that good journalism


That's assuming she's acting on her own

I doubt she's capable of that.

At this point, I think they sent her on vacation to protect her from the firestorm of Trump supporters who would get in her face immediately after the debate.

Now that she's back, Fox is doubling down on protecting their brand and taking Trump down in the process.

This is a big deal - because if Fox News succeeds, every candidate from here on out is going to kiss their ass and bow down to them - and if Trump succeeds, Fox News is rendered a propaganda machine and everyone will remember them trying to take out the GOP nominee


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Amazing how many men are terrified of smart and capable women. Kelly's simply good at her job and she doesn't care whose ox is being gored, like any good journalist.


Seems like I read once that Megyn, like Cruz, clerked for a SCOTUS Judge. If so, maybe Cruz was just disappointed in her ignoring the legal and political realities in favor of pursuing a "gotcha moment".


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I don't have to watch TV to know you're an idiot.


And he always has an opinion- which no one is interested in.


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Trump knows what he's going to do about it.


No he doesn't. The man is one huge hyberbole machine...


A fair assessment by Jorge, I think.

But the Flim-Flam man is doing a service by drawing attention to himself, and, coincidentally, to some important issues.


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Well, I always heard a lie well told was better than the truth. Some of us just don't abide by it.


It worked for O. I sure wish Romney had said he would work to get gas back under $2 a gallon. Hell, i wish he would have told everyone he would give everyone a color TV. What happened to the tax refund Clinton was going to give everyone. Oh yeah, he found we wouldnt spend it wisely.

Fire with fire...


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Originally Posted by Penobscot_99
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Trump knows what he's going to do about it.


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Well, its been done before, like 3 years ago.


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Trump knows what he's going to do about it.


No he doesn't. The man is one huge hyberbole machine...


A fair assessment by Jorge, I think.

But the Flim-Flam man is doing a service by drawing attention to himself, and, coincidentally, to some important issues.


100% agree. I just don't trust nor like him, but I hope I'm wrong...


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Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
Fox seems to have an agenda and thinks it can manipulate who the GOP candidate will be.Kelly doesn't like Trump and since Cruz agrees with much of Trumps rhetoric she isn't fond of Cruz.I hardly find that good journalism


Helping Jeb, who will fold to the dimocrap.


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Fox is a puppet for the RNC. I am not a die hard Trump supporter, how ever if the election were today he would get my vote. The RNC is not supposed to be dictating who is the candidate the people should be voting for. But that has been happening in a obvious and undermining way. They get away with it because, the ignorant, stupid voters ( NO MORE POLITICAL CORRECTNESS ). Have not a clue how corrupt the whole process is and has been for ever. And the pieces of chit count on the short memory of voters to get away with murder. Hence absolutely no shame!!!!!! Sounds just like the CLINTOONS don't it?????? The whole pack in the scum bucket is actually very much the same. We all really have an obligation to inform as many as possible, if there's to be any hope. Shame even the azzholes that think they know, can't see through the smoke and mirrors.



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Amazing how many men are terrified of smart and capable women. Kelly's simply good at her job and she doesn't care whose ox is being gored, like any good journalist.


Seems like I read once that Megyn, like Cruz, clerked for a SCOTUS Judge. If so, maybe Cruz was just disappointed in her ignoring the legal and political realities in favor of pursuing a "gotcha moment".


No, she didn't clerk for a SCOTUS judge.

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O K........ which of the HOT FOX CHICKS is it that DID clerk for one?


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Well, I always heard a lie well told was better than the truth. Some of us just don't abide by it.


It worked for O. I sure wish Romney had said he would work to get gas back under $2 a gallon. Hell, i wish he would have told everyone he would give everyone a color TV. What happened to the tax refund Clinton was going to give everyone. Oh yeah, he found we wouldnt spend it wisely.

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Fox is a puppet for the RNC. I am not a die hard Trump supporter, how ever if the election were today he would get my vote. The RNC is not supposed to be dictating who is the candidate the people should be voting for. But that has been happening in a obvious and undermining way. They get away with it because, the ignorant, stupid voters ( NO MORE POLITICAL CORRECTNESS ). Have not a clue how corrupt the whole process is and has been for ever. And the pieces of chit count on the short memory of voters to get away with murder. Hence absolutely no shame!!!!!! Sounds just like the CLINTOONS don't it?????? The whole pack in the scum bucket is actually very much the same. We all really have an obligation to inform as many as possible, if there's to be any hope. Shame even the azzholes that think they know, can't see through the smoke and mirrors.



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its goes back to at least 2008

I know alot of you don't care for Ron Paul, but Ron Paul early in the election cycle was killing it in Fox News polls, straw polls and just about every other internet or phone in poll - and was leading the charge with donations.

Hannity was basically dismissing that Ron Paul would win every poll they and would then focus on who came in second or whatever.

Then when it comes time for the Fox sponsored debate, they don't invite Ron Paul. Jay Leno thought it was such a s_hit move, he invited Ron Paul to be on his show on the night of the debates.

Its not a big deal when a conservative candidate you don't care for gets s_hit on by Fox, but now that its Trump and he has some backing, people are starting to see Fox News show their true colors.

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O K........ which of the HOT FOX CHICKS is it that DID clerk for one?


None. Ann Coulter and/or Laura Ingham.

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My thinking is that FOX is not capable of dragging Trump down. He's sort of proven that already, so much that Ailes had to apologize to him a couple of weeks ago IIRC. Like it or not, Trump is very popular amongst the general public who is fed up wit PC, politicians, and the media, and the general public backlash against any network who tries to drag him through the mud, at least right now, ain't gonna fly. Trump knows it, and will keep the heat on as long as his approval #'s allow it


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It is a losing game for Fox. Lose, and they are revealed to be the idiots they are. Win and bring down Trump, and half or more of their audience will hate them for it.

They seriously need to rethink where they are headed with this.


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the best move Fox could have done is just ignored Trump during the debate, give him a softball question about the economy and then his closing statement - that would have pissed him off and who knows how he would have reacted.

Instead they make a victim out of him - a man that understands that bad press is better than no press, and turn the most loyal TV viewers in America against their most popular newsperson.



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I thought her approach was brilliant!


Cruz did dodge a couple of her questions.


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Kelly then cut in, “that doesn’t sound like an answer. Mr. Trump answered that question explicitly last night on ‘The O’Reilly Factor.’ Will you do so now?” Cruz stated, “Well, Megyn, what I’m doing is answering what I think Congress should do. What Congress should do, and I introduced legislation to do exactly this, triple the Border Patrol. Increase fourfold the fixed-wing and rotary-wing aircraft to monitor the border, put in place a strong biometic exit/entry system, because 40% of illegal immigration doesn’t come across the border, it’s visa overstays. Put in place a strong E-Verify system. And then this final piece is critical, actually have the federal government enforce the law.”


But it was the same question.

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I thought her approach was brilliant!


Cruz did dodge a couple of her questions.


No, she asked the same question over and over.
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Cruz was then asked, “if you have a husband and a wife who are illegal immigrants, and they have two children who are here, who are American citizens, would you deport all of them? Would you deport the American citizen children?”

He responded, “So, Megyn, what I’ve said is that we should approach immigration in a staged manner. We should start with focusing on areas of bipartisan agreement. Where is there bipartisan agreement? On two major areas. Number one, that we should do everything possible to secure the border and stop illegal immigration. And number two, to improve and streamline legal immigration.”

Kelly then cut in, “that doesn’t sound like an answer. Mr. Trump answered that question explicitly last night on ‘The O’Reilly Factor.’ Will you do so now?” Cruz stated, “Well, Megyn, what I’m doing is answering what I think Congress should do. What Congress should do, and I introduced legislation to do exactly this, triple the Border Patrol. Increase fourfold the fixed-wing and rotary-wing aircraft to monitor the border, put in place a strong biometic exit/entry system, because 40% of illegal immigration doesn’t come across the border, it’s visa overstays. Put in place a strong E-Verify system. And then this final piece is critical, actually have the federal government enforce the law.”

Kelly again cut in, “Senator, I understand all that, and you’ve outlined your plan, but you’re — unlike you, you’re dodging my question. You don’t want to answer that question. He says he would.” Cruz protested, “I’m not playing that game.”

After Kelly again asked whether the American citizen children of illegal immigrants would be deported under his policy, Cruz answered, “Megyn, I get that that’s the question you want to ask, that’s also the question every mainstream media liberal journalist wants to ask. They focus exclusively –.” Kelly then asked if such a question was “unfair.” Cruz maintained it’s “a distraction from how we actually solve the problem. You know, it’s also the question Barack Obama wants to focus on.”

Kelly asked why it was “so hard” for Cruz to give a yes or no answer. Cruz stated, “Because, Megyn, we need to solve the problem. And the way you solve the problem, is you focus where there’s bipartisan agreement first. Once we’ve secured the border, once we’ve actually proven we can do this, once we’ve stop the Obama administration’s policy of releasing 104,000 violent criminal illegal aliens in one year, once we’ve solved that problem, then we can have a debate, then we can have a conversation.”


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
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I thought her approach was brilliant!


Cruz did dodge a couple of her questions.


No, she asked the same question over and over.



Because he did not answer her question.

Cruz did not have to answer but now it is hanging out there in mid-air.



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Originally Posted by KFWA
the best move Fox could have done is just ignored Trump during the debate, give him a softball question about the economy and then his closing statement - that would have pissed him off and who knows how he would have reacted.

Instead they make a victim out of him - a man that understands that bad press is better than no press, and turn the most loyal TV viewers in America against their most popular newsperson.



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Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
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I thought her approach was brilliant!


Cruz did dodge a couple of her questions.


No, she asked the same question over and over.



Because he did not answer her question.

Cruz did not have to answer but now it is hanging out there in mid-air.



But he did answer. He basically said "I don't know yet". She wanted something else.


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Fox seems to have an agenda and thinks it can manipulate who the GOP candidate will be.Kelly doesn't like Trump and since Cruz agrees with much of Trumps rhetoric she isn't fond of Cruz.I hardly find that good journalism


That's assuming she's acting on her own

I doubt she's capable of that.

At this point, I think they sent her on vacation to protect her from the firestorm of Trump supporters who would get in her face immediately after the debate.

Now that she's back, Fox is doubling down on protecting their brand and taking Trump down in the process.

This is a big deal - because if Fox News succeeds, every candidate from here on out is going to kiss their ass and bow down to them - and if Trump succeeds, Fox News is rendered a propaganda machine and everyone will remember them trying to take out the GOP nominee


It certainly looks that way. I'm no fan of Trump and his sophomoric rants ( most of which I agree in principle).

I also am not dazzled by Kelly in any manner. She has a harsh hatchet face and strident manner. She is also ignorant about the real world outside her guardian bubble, much like Martha McCallum is. FOX has prettier and smarter, IMO.


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the best move Fox could have done is just ignored Trump during the debate, give him a softball question about the economy and then his closing statement - that would have pissed him off and who knows how he would have reacted.

Instead they make a victim out of him - a man that understands that bad press is better than no press, and turn the most loyal TV viewers in America against their most popular newsperson.



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I thought her approach was brilliant!


Cruz did dodge a couple of her questions.


No, she asked the same question over and over.



Because he did not answer her question.

Cruz did not have to answer but now it is hanging out there in mid-air.



But he did answer. He basically said "I don't know yet". She wanted something else.
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Amazing how many men are terrified of smart and capable women. Kelly's simply good at her job and she doesn't care whose ox is being gored, like any good journalist.


Seems like I read once that Megyn, like Cruz, clerked for a SCOTUS Judge. If so, maybe Cruz was just disappointed in her ignoring the legal and political realities in favor of pursuing a "gotcha moment".


Absolutely not. Megan Kelly, formerly Megyn Kendall, worked as an associate at the Chicago office of the Jones Day law firm, which for a long time was the largest law firm in the US. Per Wikipedia, she worked mostly on matters for the credit reporting firm Experian. That is a long way from clerking for a Supreme Court Justice or matching Ted Cruz in intellect.

She moved into broadcasting in 2003, whether because her work was boring or she did not make partnership. Probably both.

There is no doubt that she is strikingly attractive, outspoken and reasonably smart. That only takes you so far in a top tier law firm. She is doing much better at broadcasting, reportedly for $6 million per year, and likely enjoying it much more.


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But he did answer. He basically said "I don't know yet". She wanted something else.



I just read the whole transcript and you are right. On short tv interviews you live or die by your soundbites. Hard to remember long and repeated talking points. Cruz has answered the question more clearly in the past.

Ted Cruz 2011: “The Constitution protects birthright citizenship for illegals and it’s a mistake for conservatives to spend time fighting it.”

Ted Cruz 2015: “We should end granting automatic birthright citizenship to the children of those who are here illegally.” When pressed on whether a change to the Constitution to end birthright citizenship would be realistic, Cruz said: “I think it is possible, but any constitutional amendment by its nature is difficult to achieve.”


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Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
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the best move Fox could have done is just ignored Trump during the debate, give him a softball question about the economy and then his closing statement - that would have pissed him off and who knows how he would have reacted.

Instead they make a victim out of him - a man that understands that bad press is better than no press, and turn the most loyal TV viewers in America against their most popular newsperson.



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Trump knows what he's going to do about it.


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People don't like to hear the truth. Fantasy is much easier to accept.


We are getting a double dose of that these days.


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Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
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People don't like to hear the truth. Fantasy is much easier to accept.


We are getting a double dose of that these days.


Which one is Trump spewing?


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Amazing how many men are terrified of smart and capable women. Kelly's simply good at her job and she doesn't care whose ox is being gored, like any good journalist.

Shirley, you don't think Trump and/or Cruz is terrified of Megyn?


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I thought her approach was brilliant!


Cruz did dodge a couple of her questions.


No, she asked the same question over and over.
Because he did not answer her question.

Cruz did not have to answer but now it is hanging out there in mid-air.

Cruz answered the question in the context of the real world - in terms of how the anchor baby problem can be resolved legally and within the constitution.


Trump answered the question in the context of Trump-world - like his business where he can just proclaim and people will do what he says. It makes a nice sound-bite but there would be a lot of push back that he'd have to go to plan B.




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Perry is saying the same thing as Cruz, but ain't nobody paying any attention.


I think it's his poindexter glasses.

He needs to lose them...worse than Goldwater.

Glasses in general on the macro level project inferiority...and yeah I know about FDR and Truman.


Maybe Perry needs some wire rims. I wear them on occasion and can tell chicks dig em. The John Lennon type...

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yeah but I at least give Perry credit for wearing his come and get 'em shirt when he can!! grin


The only thing worse than plastic glasses..is being bald. Ain't gotta shot being bald these days.

People tend to vote fer hair...I'm not sure where Trump fits in to my theory. I guess he's got hair. Swoopdeeloop deloop.

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I think it's his poindexter glasses.

He needs to lose them...worse than Goldwater.



He needs to give 'em back to Palin.




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But he did answer. He basically said "I don't know yet". She wanted something else.

She wanted Cruz to lock himself in - today - to a policy that he may or may not wish to pursue two years from now if he becomes president.

Two years from now, she'll say, "President Cruz, in 2015, you promised the American people ..."

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I thought her approach was brilliant!


Cruz did dodge a couple of her questions.


No, she asked the same question over and over.
Because he did not answer her question.

Cruz did not have to answer but now it is hanging out there in mid-air.

Cruz answered the question in the context of the real world - in terms of how the anchor baby problem can be resolved legally and within the constitution.


Trump answered the question in the context of Trump-world - like his business where he can just proclaim and people will do what he says. It makes a nice sound-bite but there would be a lot of push back that he'd have to go to plan B.




And that's all I've been saying this whole time. Trump knows there will be no fence in this lifetime and that people who have been here illegally for any time will not be deported. I'm really happy about him doing well as the grudge candidate, but I'm afraid of what is going to happen when people wake up to the fact that he's lying to them. Who knows? They may not care.


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And that's all I've been saying this whole time. Trump knows there will be no fence in this lifetime and that people who have been here illegally for any time will not be deported. I'm really happy about him doing well as the grudge candidate, but I'm afraid of what is going to happen when people wake up to the fact that he's lying to them. Who knows? They may not care.


A wall can be built along the entire southern border, and it would be effective in slowing the flow of illegal immigration into this country.

And make no mistake, a fugking schit fugking ton of illegal immigrants can and would be deported in a short amount of time if you had an administration with the will to do it.

And yes, it would be legal.



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A wall can be built along the entire southern border, and it would be effective in slowing the flow of illegal immigration into this country.

And make no mistake, a fugking schit fugking ton of illegal immigrants can and would be deported in a short amount of time if you had an administration with the will to do it.

And yes, it would be legal.



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Of course it could, as soon as congress decides it will and keeps it as a priority for 20 years.


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Pretty sure part of his plan is too eliminate Congress. Or at the very least those who aren't nice to him.

All thrown away along with the 14th.

It's just that easy! laugh


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I don't see where the problem is. Illegals should be deported. If they want to take their Americal citizen minor children with them, give the kids passports. They can renter anytime subject to legal requirements. If the parents want their kids to remain in US it's up to them to arrange foster care. Put the responsibility on where it belongs - on the parents whose past decisions created the situation.

And end the anchor baby catch. At least one parent must be an American citizen or in the process to become one legally, or otherwise both parents legally in the US.


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I agree, and deporting them IS the answer. It worked before and would work again. Unfortunately, this country has evolved to the point where funding social programs is more important than enforcing the laws, and that evolution has been over several decades, not just the last few years.


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Started with FDR but the big jump was with Johnson. If we would only end aid of able bodied people, they would go to work and a lot of the illegals would self deport. Not all, but a lot. I would make it easier to deport the rest. miles


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I agree, and deporting them IS the answer. It worked before and would work again. Unfortunately, this country has evolved to the point where funding social programs is more important than enforcing the laws, and that evolution has been over several decades, not just the last few years.


Deporting someone and then letting them turn right around and come back makes no sense at all. It is an expensive form of amnesty.


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When it cost them $5k a pop, and a gauntlet of rapists and robbers to get back, they don't just "turn around".


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When it cost them $5k a pop, and a gauntlet of rapists and robbers to get back, they don't just "turn around".


NO, Trump said he would bring them back. Just the "good ones"

Send them home and bring them back legal.
How and especially Why would anyone go to Central America and try to do what common-sense would dictate doing here in the first place?


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