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I predict you'll like it. It is a solid little killer.
"The number one problem with America is, a whole lot of people need shot, and nobody is shooting them." -Master Chief Hershel Davis
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Ya'll are reminding me I have a .257 Kimber that needs blooding.
I have one lb of Hybrid 100v, plus a few bullets I used last year developing a load for Dad's old .25-06. Real interested in trying some Big Game in the Bob. IIRC, Big Game, as well as TAC, are more temp resistant than Hunter or Magnum. I tried some Big Game loads and they shot well, just not as fast as H100V. DF
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Yessir, I'm a mid to high shoulder puncher, you'll lose a handful of fajita meat at most shooting them there with this setup. Me too. I most often hunt impenetrably thick woods in fading light. Warm weather at that. I don't want the animal doing a 40 yard death dash. It can mean a lost deer. I try to involve one or both shoulders. It tends to anchor them.
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Follow up on the Roberts project. I took gunner's advice regarding the 100 gr. TTSX. He suggested loading for meat, not paper. He said to use Hybrid 100V and run that bullet at 3,200 fps. Well, sometimes you can have your cake and eat it, too... 46 gr. 3,188 fps., .70" at a hundred (three shots). 47 gr. 3,266 fps., .438". 48 gr. 3,328 fsp., 1.7" and getting warm. Bolt lift was OK, case head with some bright spots from the bolt, primer OK. It appears that the 100 TTSX at 3,200 fps ahead of 47 gr. Hybrid 100V is a great load, super accurate. This gun has done well with the 115 NBT, but the TTSX shot the best group so far. 100 and 115 gr. NPT's and the 117 SST's were pretty good, a few stand out loads, the TTSX is the winner. I think I can settle of gunner's load and go kill stuff. BTW, here are photos of a high classed shooting range. Note the magnetic gun rack stuck to the Z-71. I shoot three shots with big guns, five with smaller ones, let the hot ones cool in the rack with open bolts while I shoot a cool one. I can keep five or more guns going without any getting too hot and without losing time. This morning, I started early while it was sorta cool and shot until 11:30. I shot two batches of 10 targets in the far left distance, each target with two bulls. DF Just because some pics need to be quoted. Love that set up.
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Thanks, Paul. Check out that stool. It's a "drum throne" by Gibraltar, the drum manufacturer. Those things cost around a hundred bucks, are bull stout and just about indestructible. To me, they're perfect for bench shooting, even tailgate shooting... BTW, I have a great shooting bench. This set up is easier, faster to set up and I'm basically lazy... DF
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Yessir, I'm a mid to high shoulder puncher, you'll lose a handful of fajita meat at most shooting them there with this setup. Me too. I most often hunt impenetrably thick woods in fading light. Warm weather at that. I don't want the animal doing a 40 yard death dash. It can mean a lost deer. I try to involve one or both shoulders. It tends to anchor them. Yessir, it "hurts" 'em.
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Follow up on the Roberts project. I took gunner's advice regarding the 100 gr. TTSX. He suggested loading for meat, not paper. He said to use Hybrid 100V and run that bullet at 3,200 fps. Well, sometimes you can have your cake and eat it, too... 46 gr. 3,188 fps., .70" at a hundred (three shots). 47 gr. 3,266 fps., .438". 48 gr. 3,328 fsp., 1.7" and getting warm. Bolt lift was OK, case head with some bright spots from the bolt, primer OK. It appears that the 100 TTSX at 3,200 fps ahead of 47 gr. Hybrid 100V is a great load, super accurate. This gun has done well with the 115 NBT, but the TTSX shot the best group so far. 100 and 115 gr. NPT's and the 117 SST's were pretty good, a few stand out loads, the TTSX is the winner. I think I can settle of gunner's load and go kill stuff. BTW, here are photos of a high classed shooting range. Note the magnetic gun rack stuck to the Z-71. I shoot three shots with big guns, five with smaller ones, let the hot ones cool in the rack with open bolts while I shoot a cool one. I can keep five or more guns going without any getting too hot and without losing time. This morning, I started early while it was sorta cool and shot until 11:30. I shot two batches of 10 targets in the far left distance, each target with two bulls. DF Another bonus. When shooting semi auto rifles, the truck bed becomes an effective case catcher, no need to attach anything to the gun. DF
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Darn Dirtfarmer, I liked it better w/the Leupold on it but it's still a nice setup. I'm a long time .25cal fan. Kills all out of proportion to it's size. powdr
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Yeah, it looked better, is sleeker. But the Conquest was sitting there and it just sorta jumped on the Roberts. Then the VX-2 found a lonely Springfield in the back of the safe. They were an instant hit, so what could I say... laugh
Guess I have a soft spot for such goings on... blush
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Update on latest version of tailgate benchrest. I posted this on another thread, thought it needed to be here. It's long enough to accommodate a free standing Magnetospeed chrono. DF
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Nice setup. Not legal in our state. Can't have a loaded firearm on or in a vehicle.
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Nice setup. Not legal in our state. Can't have a loaded firearm on or in a vehicle. Wow. Not even in a cow pasture a mile from a public roadway? Be a lot of our local folks in the lock up if that was the case here. DF
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Kill a deer with the .257 Roberts yet DF?
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Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard
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Kill a deer with the .257 Roberts yet DF? Just a coyote. 100 gr. TTSX ruined his day, big time. I was so enamored with seeing what the 135 gr. .308 Raptor would do, I used it this past weekend. I chest shot a young sow to see how it would perform. I'm impressed, no complaints from the hog, either... http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/10719100Too many projects. From the South Carolina study results, I'm thinking soft C&C's in the Roberts to chest shoot WT's. Just got in some 117 Sierra Pro-Hunters and 117 MidwayUSA blems (look like Hornady) to go with my 115 NPT's and 115 NBT's. Monometals seem to do best with bone/shoulder shots and we prefer chest shooting our meat animals. I could have head/neck/shoulder shot that hog (100 yds, half inch rifle, solid box blind rest), but wouldn't know how the Raptor performed in the chest. Haven't tried .257 Raptors. It may be that Raptors are about as good as C&C's for chest shooting WT's. My experience with TTSX/TSX chest shots isn't the best. Raptors are kinda pricey. SC study: http://www.dnr.sc.gov/wildlife/deer/articlegad.htmlNon Loonies would know I'm overthinking all this... DF
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Well,dagnabit get a deer with it.
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Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard
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Well,dagnabit get a deer with it. Got it... You'll be the first to know... DF
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Life Member SCI Life Member DSC Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association
Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard
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I own a Winchester Model 70 Cabela's Anniversary .257 Roberts. I talked to a number ho bought the same rifle. I used to reload the cases. But every cartridge I tried shot incredibly tight groups. I use the 117 grain Hornady Superformance round mostly but Federal, Windhester, Remington, and in several different weights all were very accurate.
I will say the .257 Roberts is about the best round I know of. I knew Jack O'Connor and his experience was extraordinary, he felt the .257 Roberts was almost perfect for most hunting. Brown Bears and Cape Buffalo are never going to be on my hunting list.
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Is that M-70 a LA or SA?
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