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You dont know chitt, though you believe what a 4th grade teacher told you about it. Says the guy who thinks it's moral to impregnate your own daughters, and then blame it on them.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Wtf u been drinking. Youre crazy a a loon.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants.
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AS,
Who said that it's moral to impregnate your own daughters and then blame it on them?
Also, pray tell how you know that all Lot's wife did was look back?
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The tax collector said: “Lord Jesus, have mercy on me, a sinner.” Jesus said he went home “justified.”
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Hatred is a poison that destroys us from within, producing bitterness that eats away at our hearts and minds. This is why the Scriptures tell us not to let a “root of bitterness” spring up in our hearts (Hebrews 12:15). Hatred also
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants.
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AS,
Who said that it's moral to impregnate your own daughters and then blame it on them?
Also, pray tell how you know that all Lot's wife did was look back?
TF 2 Peter 7-8 Is clear that Lot was just and righteous: And [God] delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;) 2 Peter 2:7-8. So, to answer your question, it was God that said so.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Hatred is a poison that destroys us from within, producing bitterness that eats away at our hearts and minds. This is why the Scriptures tell us not to let a “root of bitterness” spring up in our hearts (Hebrews 12:15). Hatred also More dodging the question by spouting Bible verses.... Come on Doc, take a step in the direction of morality, and admit it immoral knock up your daughters and blame them for it.
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All it shows is that someone wrote that down a long time ago. Nothing more. It shows you havent wanted everlasting life enough to ask for it. But Lotts wife looked back and was turned into a pillar of salt, salty. Sure and then Lott the only "righteous man" in Sodom, who offered up his virgin daughters to be gang rapped, then after his wife was out of the picture screwed and knocked up both of them himself, then had the audacity to blame his lechery on his daughters.  So Lott is "righteous", but all his wife did was look back, and she deserves to be punished? How is this consistent with a "moral" god? God (through the angle) specifically told them to not look back. Lott's wife did. God is moral because He means what he says. And when one chooses the behavior, one also chooses the consequences. The idea that another being (God) has athourity over the concequences of our actions is at the heart of the debate over his existance.
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…7casting all your anxiety on Him, because He cares for you. 8Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. 9But resist him, firm in your faith, knowing that the same experiences of suffering are being accomplished by your brethren who are in the world
Search the world over finding injustice to attribute to Him while He has said He is with thr Father and preparing a place for us and that the devil roams the earth to and fro looking for suckers like you who will blame Him for giving us freedom to choose and giving ourselves for satan to use.
He isnt here, but He will return. Book it.
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If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.
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All it shows is that someone wrote that down a long time ago. Nothing more. It shows you havent wanted everlasting life enough to ask for it. But Lotts wife looked back and was turned into a pillar of salt, salty. Sure and then Lott the only "righteous man" in Sodom, who offered up his virgin daughters to be gang rapped, then after his wife was out of the picture screwed and knocked up both of them himself, then had the audacity to blame his lechery on his daughters. So Lott is "righteous", but all his wife did was look back, and she deserves to be punished? How is this consistent with a "moral" god? God (through the angle) specifically told them to not look back. Lott's wife did. God is moral because He means what he says. And when one chooses the behavior, one also chooses the consequences. The idea that another being (God) has athourity over the concequences of our actions is at the heart of the debate over his existance. Does that punishment really fit the crime? Would you murder your own child for such a minor infraction?
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God knows you would be a bItter judge than He.
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So, you insist on judging Him. The truth will set us free. You, the supreme critiquer. Ha. What a joke.
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God knows you would be a better judge than He. So would you, or Scott F, or Dwayne, or most folks here on the Fire.
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Hatred is a poison that destroys us from within, producing bitterness that eats away at our hearts and minds. This is why the Scriptures tell us not to let a “root of bitterness” spring up in our hearts (Hebrews 12:15). Hatred also More dodging the question by spouting Bible verses.... Come on Doc, take a step in the direction of morality, and admit it immoral knock up your daughters and blame them for it. Where in that passage exactly does Lott blame his daughters? This is a prime example of dishonesty. Misrepresenting something for what I perceive as an addiction to debate.
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AS,
Who said that it's moral to impregnate your own daughters and then blame it on them?
Also, pray tell how you know that all Lot's wife did was look back?
TF 2 Peter 7-8 Is clear that Lot was just and righteous: And [God] delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;) 2 Peter 2:7-8. So, to answer your question, it was God that said so. AS, You seem to have a problem with reading comprehension. Where is it that God said it was ok to do the sin that Lot committed? TF
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All it shows is that someone wrote that down a long time ago. Nothing more. It shows you havent wanted everlasting life enough to ask for it. But Lotts wife looked back and was turned into a pillar of salt, salty. Sure and then Lott the only "righteous man" in Sodom, who offered up his virgin daughters to be gang rapped, then after his wife was out of the picture screwed and knocked up both of them himself, then had the audacity to blame his lechery on his daughters. So Lott is "righteous", but all his wife did was look back, and she deserves to be punished? How is this consistent with a "moral" god? God (through the angle) specifically told them to not look back. Lott's wife did. God is moral because He means what he says. And when one chooses the behavior, one also chooses the consequences. The idea that another being (God) has athourity over the concequences of our actions is at the heart of the debate over his existance. Does that punishment really fit the crime? Would you murder your own child for such a minor infraction? Who determines the extent of punishment? The one in the wrong or the one who is wronged. It is clear that the Almighty takes obedience seriously. That I think, is the real rub in your reaction.
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So, you insist on judging Him. The truth will set us free. You, the supreme critiquer. Ha. What a joke. Where did I claim to be the supreme anything? All I claimed to be was more moral then the blatherings of your bronze age goat herders who think it's ok to bang your own daughters.
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Mark 16:15-16English Standard Version (ESV)
15 And he said to them, “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation. 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned
This shows why believers tell others about the word. It is a command from God that we do so. It is part of obeying Him. So if you are not Baptized, you are not saved? How about babies that die before they are Baptized? Didn't they go to Purgatory for about 2000 years before the Catholic Church changed it's mind? Now you are going in a direction that will really bring out the worst in Christians. There is no way you can convince me that baptism is the only way you can make it to Heaven. I serve a loving god, one who will answer those who call on His Name. The soldier in the trench who make a plea to God is not damned to hell because he cannot stop the battle long enough to be baptised. I will probably get smoked for this statement but I have been smoked before and lived so let it be. 
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Who determines the extent of punishment? The one in the wrong or the one who is wronged.
It is clear that the Almighty takes obedience seriously. That I think, is the real rub in your reaction. The real rub is that you, and others, are so blinded by divine command theory you can no longer tell right from wrong.
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Mark 16:15-16English Standard Version (ESV)
15 And he said to them, “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation. 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned
This shows why believers tell others about the word. It is a command from God that we do so. It is part of obeying Him. So if you are not Baptized, you are not saved? How about babies that die before they are Baptized? Didn't they go to Purgatory for about 2000 years before the Catholic Church changed it's mind? Now you are going in a direction that will really bring out the worst in Christians. There is no way you can convince me that baptism is the only way you can make it to Heaven. I serve a loving god, one who will answer those who call on His Name. The soldier in the trench who make a plea to God is not damned to hell because he cannot stop the battle long enough to be baptised. I will probably get smoked for this statement but I have been smoked before and lived so let it be. Yea, and old Christian friend of mine suggested that as a great way to start a fight among the faithful.
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What amazed me is there is over 30,000 Christian sects, but you think you know the One True Christianity.
A Christian is a Christian when they except Christ as their personal Saviour. Church as in today’s meaning, a sect or a denomination, does not make or break a Christian. There are even Christians who do not follow or belong to any sect or denomination, I am one of them. Going to a church does not make one a Christian, furthermore most if not all churches have many members Christ may not recognize and His. Not going to a church does not mean you are not a Christian. I do not believe there is one true sect or a denomination. I think there are different sects or a denominations because different people feel called or drawn to different styles of worship. I would attend no church who preached their way was the only way. But then I am more of a tad bit of a cantankerous old fart. Well, if you would not attend any church who preaches their is the only way, that sure makes thinks a lot easier for you. It probably eliminates about 3/4 of the denominations for you! Time was when your statement would be true. Not so much any more.
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