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Last thing you want to do is pack bunch of extra stuff or take it back when it's covered in mud. Another reason to use poly tarp on the tent. Once a tent gets wet and you have to pack it back out on a horse or mule, you add a lot of weight with all that water in it in. I never had much problem with muddy tarps I shook them off and rolled them up with the mud on the inside.
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I was referring to bringing carpet for a large tent floor.
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Ok, this will probably never be used where it can't be hauled by a 4x4 or ATV.
I was looking at the different types of stoves and was liking the looks of the Cylinder stove. Any pros/cons to this model? Something better out there?
I was thinking of buying the frame kit and finishing it off with 1" EMT to save a pretty good chunk of change. With the size tent I'm looking at, it seems that should be strong enough. Any rookie mistakes to avoid here?
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cylinder stoves are great.but heavvvvyyyy......
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Yes, get the angle kit and make your own emt frame. Super easy. If you want to save more money by building your own wood stove by using a 55 or 33? Gallon drum is easy as well. Not heavy but cumbersome if you don't have utility trailer. One benefit to the drums is you can store your chimney pieces inside of it. I'd also try to put a flat piece of metal or plate on top so you can have a pot of hot water all the time. Also have the doors little higher than center so when you stoke the stove for the night. you have room to fit bunch of wood in there with out trying to snake it up.
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That cylinder stove looks pretty slick...like one of those deals if someone else makes it, I don't have to.
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I'm looking at a 12x17 with 5' walls, so it looks like a couple 12x24's would do something similar to what Huntinut is doing. I take it you just lay the tarps right over the top of the tent and stake them down?
Looks like a roll of indoor/outdoor carpeting inside for a floor? Yep I use 2 12x24 tarps and they overlap 6-8" in the middle, I also have another tarp on the floor under some carpet pcs that make it very comfortable. Buy your angles from here they have all you could ever want and very reasonably priced
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Google Davis Tent and Awning, Denver, CO. They have a wealth of info on their website. I have their tents, stoves, cots, etc. and have been satisfied.
Put a 16' X 24' white poly tarp over my 14 X 16 tent, makes a nice 8' awning. Just cut an oversize hole for the stove pipe. If you order a tent get the "eave sleeves" and you can just extend the internal frame out front for the awning area.
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Cow doc gave you the best info Davis Tent. Also look hard at Fourdog stoves they really keep the beers down. Also you don't need to tarp your tent if you buy A Davis tent, never had a leak and if you set it up right the snow slides off pretty well. Also if it's flat arse coming down stoke the four dog up and the snow will melt away.
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Some comments on what has been discussed. Poly tarp - check Cylinder stove - check Indoor/outdoor carpeting - check Spark arrestor - check (I made my own from welded wire hardware cloth)
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some great looking setups. Getting fired up for hunting season now
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True a poly tarp is not necessary, but you will prolong the life of the tent from UV damage, reduce burn holes if your stovepipe goes thru the roof, the snow will definitely slide off faster, and you won't have a tent that doubles in weight from being wet. A $20-$25 investment to protect a $800+ tent seems reasonable. One thing you want to do if you buy a new tent. Set it up on a bright sunny day and hose it down good inside and outside with water. Then let it dry good. That shrinks up the canvas adding to the water tightness. If you make your own set of poles or frame, be prepared to cut them down a bit after the tent shrinks up if it hasn't been so treated
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On stoves, don't get a small one unless space is an issue. The large stove will go 5 - 6 hours on a full load of wood with the fresh air vent closed almost all the way down.
We also use the side mount water tank. Make sure you put it on the side of the stove closest to the canvas wall or it keeps heat from reaching the center and rear of the tent. You will always have hot water and it adds some humidity to the tent. On the negative side you have to keep it full or the lid will warp, takes about three gallons per day in evaporation.
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I've got two of those tanks if anybody wants one. For me they're more of a pain in the butt. I just keep a big coffee pot on top of the stove
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I've gotten along without a tarp when horse-packing but I don't recommend it. Tarps are light and cheap. Only negative is that they don't let all the light in --- but you shouldn't be sittin' in the tent during daylight anyway. We use an oversize tarp and have "eaves" on both sides. Handy for storage in deep snow.
When we reach camp in a pickup --- I use 3' sections of steel fence post for tent stakes (8 of them). Great in a high wind. Get something like a Camp Mor internal frame and you can pitch that 12 X 17 by yourself; if need be.
I have a RILEY Wrangler box stove and recommend it highly -- very light and handy. Stove pipe fits inside. Screened stove pipe covers don't work when burning Lodgepole -- they soon plug. A "Cap" helps a lot. We try to pitch the tent so that the prevailing wind blows sparks away from the roof.
We use an old truck tarp for a floor and lay some funeral home grass for pathways. I hate generators -- but I'm outvoted on that issue.
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If you get a white tarp vs. dark colored tarps it seems more light in the tent.
Bought regular duty white tarps online, and by using cheap grommet repair kits, are still using the same after 10 seasons of elk camp.
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If you use a dark tarp, does it keep more light in the tent after dark with the lantern? When you should be in the tent.
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