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Here's why....
Idaho Supreme Court Allows Lawsuit against Boy Scouts, Mormon Church to Move Forward KIMBERLEE KRUESI Associated Press BOISE, Idaho (AP) — Idaho's highest court has ruled that the 16 men who say they were sexually abused as youngsters by scout leaders in Idaho filed their lawsuit on time against the Boy Scouts of America and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
The lawsuit — originally filed in 2013 — is still pending in federal district court. All but one of the plaintiffs identified as John Does allege they were sexually abused while attending scouting functions during the 1970s and 1980s.
The men are suing for constructive fraud, meaning a type of fraud that doesn't require proving malicious intent but does involve a breach of the relation of trust and confidence.
In their suit, the plaintiffs argue that scout and church officials knew scout volunteers were dangerous, but chose not to disclose that information. Instead, each scout leader was described as a "great guy" and a "friend to whom you can always turn for advice," according to court documents.
After attorneys for the church and Boy Scouts challenged the statute of limitations on the fraud claim, U.S. District Court Judge B. Lynn Winmill requested Idaho's Supreme Court justices to determine if the plaintiffs filed the lawsuit within the appropriate timeframe under Idaho law.
"We note again that is left for the trial courts to determine whether a plaintiff's cause of action is, in substance, a true constructive fraud claim, or a breach of fiduciary duty claim or something else, wrote Justice Roger Burdick, in a unanimous ruling.
Plaintiff attorney Gilion Dumas says the lawsuit would have been over if Idaho's highest court had ruled differently last week.
"This is a big victory for child abuse victims, in this case and others," Dumas said.
In a statement provided via email to The Associated Press, the Boy Scouts said it was thankful for the Idaho court's decision to consider the issue.
"The Boy Scouts of America extends our deepest sympathies to victims of any kind of abuse. In the more than three decades since these incidents took place we have continued to develop and enhance our efforts to protect youth," the statement read.
In an emailed statement, LDS Church spokesman Dale Jones said the church "has zero tolerance for abuse of any kind, and works diligently to prevent abuse and provide support and assistance to victims of abuse."
He also said it's difficult to provide information in this particular case since the cases are about three or four decades old, many of those involved are now dead and nearly half of the claims do not include the church or church-sponsored troops.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell
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"The Boy Scouts of America extends our deepest sympathies to victims of any kind of abuse. In the more than three decades since these incidents took place we have continued to develop and enhance our efforts to protect youth," the statement read. By openly allowing f-a-g-g-o-t scouts and f-a-g-g-o-t scout leaders.
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"The Boy Scouts of America extends our deepest sympathies to victims of any kind of abuse. In the more than three decades since these incidents took place we have continued to develop and enhance our efforts to protect youth," the statement read. By openly allowing f-a-g-g-o-t scouts and f-a-g-g-o-t scout leaders. Maybe openness is a better way forward. I'd trust a self-identified homosexual more than the Denny Hasterts and Josh Duggars out there.
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JBARTRAM, Maybe openness is a better way forward. I'd trust a self-identified homosexual more than the Denny Hasterts and Josh Duggars out there How do you know the difference until it's too late?
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....the "self-identified" thingy....
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Because they're sexually attracted to males.
I don't know why we've been given a false choice between open and closeted gays.
The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution.
David Horowitz, Saul Alinsky and every woman I've ever argued with.
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There is no choice available because you can never define whom the closeted gays are.
Self identified gays can be subject to the same scrutiny you would place upon say; a male coach of a girls' high school softball team.
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There is no choice available because you can never define whom the closeted gays are.
Self identified gays can be subject to the same scrutiny you would place upon say; a male coach of a girls' high school softball team.
yeah, because that never ends badly....
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There is no choice available because you can never define whom the closeted gays are.
Self identified gays can be subject to the same scrutiny you would place upon say; a male coach of a girls' high school softball team.
yeah, because that never ends badly.... Always works out for the predators.
Paul
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Maybe openness is a better way forward. I'd trust a self-identified homosexual more than the Denny Hasterts and Josh Duggars out there.
why does it has to be one or the other? Ban them all, whether or not they are in, or out of the closet.
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The Boy Scouts is a private organization and as such has the right to determine who is allowed to join.
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Maybe openness is a better way forward. I'd trust a self-identified homosexual more than the Denny Hasterts and Josh Duggars out there.
why does it has to be one or the other? Ban them all, whether or not they are in, or out of the closet. Wait, what?
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This is all about making a moral choice. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. No biology, no psychology. No background checks are going to completely protect us.
Anybody who proclaims their f a gness has made their moral choice and it's the wrong one. Keep them away from my kids!
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The BSA permits heterosexual female Scout leaders and volunteers. Is that a problem as well?
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The BSA permits heterosexual female Scout leaders and volunteers. Is that a problem as well? They should only allow lesbians....
"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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The solution is to put all the Gay Scouts under a Gay Troop Leader and all the straight ones under a Straight Troop Leader
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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I would have thought that most would not appreciate their teenage son returning home from camp with a busted arsehole and muck dribbling down his chin.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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The BSA permits heterosexual female Scout leaders and volunteers. Is that a problem as well? It could be, witness all the cases you see of teachers banging students. But at least a female identifying as hetero has made at least 1 moral choice. She's not proclaiming to the World that she's a pervert.
Islam is a terrorist organization.
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The BSA permits heterosexual female Scout leaders and volunteers. Is that a problem as well? It could be, witness all the cases you see of teachers banging students. But at least a female identifying as hetero has made at least 1 moral choice. She's not proclaiming to the World that she's a pervert. Agreed. Just like John Wayne Gacy's neighbors saying what a great neighbor he was, till they found the 33 boys buried under the house.
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