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Aside from McMillan, Brown and possibly B&C; who manufactures an upper tier replacement stock, be it kevlar, fiberglass, etc? Not looking for wood of any type.
Thanks.
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MPI Bansner and lone Wolfe are a few
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There's Manners.
If you are open to chassis stocks, you might look into XLR.
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Add Manners and HS Precision to that list
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MPI will actually work with you on something you want. They added a Weatherby cheek piece to their lightest stock for me and made sure the forend would accommodate a .925" muzzle.
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Why do they bother to sell factory-stocked action/barrels?
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I don't see B&C as upper tier, I'd rather have factory tupperware.
I've used McMillan, Brown Precision, and Hi Tech Specialties in the past. Those companies as well as MPI and Manners build stocks using lamnated layers of fiberglass or kevlar cloth in the action area through the pistol grip with an outer shell of cloth on the other areas filled with foam to deaden the sound. The action is milled out just like a wood stock. It makes for a very strong, lightweight stock. Especially kevlar.
HS Precision and B&C mix chopped fiberglass (think attic insulation) with molten plastic and pour it in a mold. They use an aluminum bedding block in the bedding area and grip for strength. It makes for a strong stock if it has the metal inside, but also a heavy chunky stock. OK on a heavy varmint or target rig. Not what I'd want on a hunting rifle.
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Agreed; that's why I said possibly when I referred to B&C.
I appreciate the explanation of the various manufacturing processes used by the various manufacturers.
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I don't see B&C as upper tier, I'd rather have factory tupperware.
I've used McMillan, Brown Precision, and Hi Tech Specialties in the past. Those companies as well as MPI and Manners build stocks using lamnated layers of fiberglass or kevlar cloth in the action area through the pistol grip with an outer shell of cloth on the other areas filled with foam to deaden the sound. The action is milled out just like a wood stock. It makes for a very strong, lightweight stock. Especially kevlar.
HS Precision and B&C mix chopped fiberglass (think attic insulation) with molten plastic and pour it in a mold. They use an aluminum bedding block in the bedding area and grip for strength. It makes for a strong stock if it has the metal inside, but also a heavy chunky stock. OK on a heavy varmint or target rig. Not what I'd want on a hunting rifle. Thanks for this post. I always wondered the differences.
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I am a fan of B&C, but they might not be considered upper tier...
The description given on how they are made is pretty spot on, and I just took a Model Seven Alaskan ( supposed to be a Ti clone) and gave it, a reduction...it was noticeably chubbier than a Ti in many places, so using Ti specs as a model, I reduced it...feels great now.
However in the process of doing so I saw an obvious effort to lay ( not just spray..) layers of fiberglass in the stock...at least on the long straight stretches. So they might be better than some think. Ive been shooting them for years on heavy use varmint rifles and love them. The 700 Ti clones are pretty much just that...never needed to adjust one...but that Model Seven was a chunky monkey...
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Bedding block in the 7 Alaskan? Happen to weigh it? Considering that or cheap wood for a project.
B&C surely ain't top tier but they're priced for the frugalurly minded! I reworked a 700 LA Carbelite and had good luck using Fiberglass type Bondo and glazing putty on it. For the money, it's now a good fit, plenty stiff and not too heavy.
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Nothing wrong with the B&C Ti stocks - that is if you get an actual Ti take-off from a 1st Gen Ti rifle. I've probably had at least 10 Ti stocks, some where factory take-offs and some where the Stocky's/Midway Ti stocks.
They should be the same but they aren't, the factory stocks so far have all been really nice and lighter weight than the non-takeoffs.
I have an early production 7MM-08 Ti, the stock on that one has a much slimmer grip which is what most gripe about. This one also comes in at just over 23 ozs so pretty much like an Edge stock.
Most of the other "Ti" stocks I have had all weigh more like 26-28 ozs. Not sure why but guessing B&C quality control isn't that great. But if you find a good one, they are really nice like Ingwe said. No they are not a McMillan, but then they are only about $240 versus $635 +/-.
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Bedding block in the 7 Alaskan? Happen to weigh it? Considering that or cheap wood for a project.
B&C surely ain't top tier but they're priced for the frugalurly minded! I reworked a 700 LA Carbelite and had good luck using Fiberglass type Bondo and glazing putty on it. For the money, it's now a good fit, plenty stiff and not too heavy. Yeah, it has a bedding block, and I didn't even need to skim bed it, I just bedded the lug. I never weighed it, but its not as heavy be any stretch as the factory 7 tupperware stock. Im finding so few aftermarket stocks for the Seven that Im basically trying to make do without breaking the bank for a McMillan./
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