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Went to the range today with Zach, my soon-to-be son-in-law. We started at the 100/200 yard range zeroing a new scope on the Ruger 22-250 and rezeroing the.30-30 for my 170g hunting loads (its been shooting 130g plinkers all summer).

After a while we backed off to 300 yards and proceeded to shoot clay pigeons. Zach decided it was too easy with the Ruger VT .22-250 and Ruger .257 Roberts so we decided to do something I had never done before � back off to 500 yards.

I gave the steel gongs a whack with the Ruger .300 Win Mag, then pulled out the Ruger .22-250. The scope I had just installed and zeroed was a Simmons 44Mag with a mil-dot reticule. I used the first dot below center and missed the pigeon by a couple inches. A slight adjustment so that the dot covered only half the pigeon did the trick Zach took a turn and within 2 shots had it figured out as well. 1 pigeon each at 500. Next I pulled out my sporter-weight Ruger .257 Roberts. A couple of shots and I had another pigeon. Same with Zach. 2 each.

OK, had to show him up, as he isn�t a regular shooter � hadn�t shot in 4 years in fact. We backed off to 600 yards. I took the Ruger .300 Win Mag and used the Burris Ballistic Plex reticle, trying for a steel gong. Missed high, just over the top. No surprise since I had never fired at that range before. Made a slight adjustment and whacked the steel. So did Zach.

All this talk in some threads about how hard it is to hit anything at long range, how expensive your equipment has to be, and how much trigger time it takes. And Zach does it with rifle he has never seen before, after 4 years of not shooting. Using crappy Ruger rifles to boot!

I think I�m going to like this guy!

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You might not like him very much if he keeps out shooting you with your own rifles. ha!ha!ha! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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They're ugly too... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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You ought to do that when there are a bunch of aftermarket barreled 700's around. I really burns their shorts when you match or out do their tricked out toys with a $400 Ruger. I love my Rugers. If I were to be dumped in the wilderness with one rifle to live out my days it would be a stainless Ruger.


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I had a 77 in 7x57 once, it didn't shoot worth spit either...(grins)


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That's why Ruger and Weatherby DOMINATE the various BR disciplines,Sillywet,Highpower,Palma,Tactical and F-Class events.

Then again?!!?......................


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Imagine what you could have done if it had been a T3!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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Now let's ask how many Savage rifles are in the BR disciplines....

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how big are the steel gongs?


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Most Rugers can be made to shoot with some tinkering. I live an hour from the range so it's hard to keep messing around with them. I can buy a Remimgton 700 and a box of cheap Remington ammo at Walmart that will shoot 1/2" groups at 100 yards right out of the box. The choice is pretty easy for me.


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how big are the steel gongs?


They range from 8" to 24". We were shooting the small gong until we went to the 600-yard line. There we shot the 24" gong because the paint was fresh and it was easy to see where the bullets impacted. After the first miss and the subsequent POA adjustment, the two shots we fired hit roughly between 10 and 11 o'clock about 3-4" from center, only a couple inches apart.


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I thought this same thing until I bought a Ruger in 300 SAUM. It shoots under .75 MOA with 165 grain Hornady Interbonds. I was very pleased and surprised after hearing all of the comments about how you have to tinker with Rugers to get them to shoot.

I now have bought a Ruger UL in 257 Bob for my son this year for deer season so we will see how this one shoots once it gets here tomorrow.


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Can match and better that from the Howa 1500 out-of-the-box. Both Remington 700 and Howa 1500 are by far the most accurate rifles using any commercial ammo.

I laugh when I hear most hack on Japanese products. Last time I looked, they make and own the best of just about everything involving engineered products.

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Gotta say that the lines of the 77 stock are as good as it gets.
Bought me my first 77 this last week. As soon as I get the trigger parts I ordered from Brownell's, do a trigger "fix", mount scope, shoot groups, I'll let you know.. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Ruger 77 stock design=Excellent!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Smooth action too...
Bad trigger... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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I have a Ruger 77 MKII in .338 mag, the last trip to the range I shot and put one bullet almost through the same hole. So if you say Ruger rifles can't shoot, it's just you....

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Both Remington 700 and Howa 1500 are by far the most accurate rifles using any commercial ammo.


Unless you have unbiased hard evidence that I'm unaware of, such a statement is both unfounded and completely unsupportable.


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No, its pretty much my biased opinion. But I'll stick to it.

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HOLY S#$T ---- No offense to either party but that has to be the first time someone has actually admitted to being biased like that and said so right away......


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I completely agree, I'm biased toward Remingtons. Years of watching them shoot fantastic groups right out of the box made me this way.


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I've never cussed a Ruger boltgun,have had many and think highly of the notion.

Have shot them as issued,slightly massaged and rebarreled/restocked.

Same goes Weatherbys.

The 700 will repeatedly dazzle,far more easily and with less
exdpense.........................


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