Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles RUGER rifles can't shoot worth spit!

I own/have owned a [bleep] of different makes of rifles and while I may think some are better than others, I still don't have one particular make that I would claim to absolutely be the most accurate out of the box rifle with factory loads. I've simply seen to many good, and some not so good specimens from too many different makers. Sometimes I wonder whether or not guys that make such claims have simply not even tried the other brands, or have shot 1 bad rifle and decided that brand sucks. I have at least 1 rifle from Remington, Winchester, Savage , Ruger, Sako, and Weatherby that will shoot as good as it gets. I've also laid eyes upon ones that would not---2MG

Can't know,who does/thinks what,or for which reason(s).

I've got them all,shot them all and have reached numerous conclusions that repeatedly bear the same fruit.

I'm slow to weigh a quantity of one,for most dissertations.....................

I hear ya, you weren't one of the uneducated posers in question...I have my opinions also, but hate saying 1 particular brand is absolutely the best, then I have to listen to some guy tell me he bought one ONCE and it didn't shoot. On a different note, do you find the Vanguards generally out-shoot the higher priced, "real" Weatherby's?---2MG

2-lugs trump 9.

The Vanguard has it all over the '5 .........................

My sentiments exactly. I do have a German made(Sauer) that's pretty damn accurate though, but it kicks somethin' fierce---2MG

Hmm..., lets see, Wby Vanguard, thats a Howa 1500 barreled action. Please educate me.

Howa makes it's 2-lugger under numerous names. S&W 1500,Howa,Weatherby,etc.

Old news....................

Heck, don't forget Mossberg. Or is that the etc? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Never seen a Mossberg by Howa,but admittedly haven't looked very hard.............................

Laffin' here....

Ruger barrels have come a long way. I have stock .308 that will shoot about 1 to 1.5 inch at 100 with any ammo just to different points of aim. She will shoot 1" at 200 with handloads. I have a Rem Ti that will shoot 1" or a little better with Just about any ammo, but less than an 1" with handloads. I have a Model 70 that will shoot about 1" or better with just about any ammo, but less that 1" with handloads. I don't own any Howas or weatherbys, but I imagine if you haven't bought the lemon that everybody makes now and then they will shoot about an 1" with any ammo and better with handloads.

Mossbergs are made in the USA. The Howa is an excellent rifle and is made in Japan.

ruger, like Steyr and CZ have shown that cold hammer forging is a superior prosses.

My four CZ's flat shoot..

Don

Rugers are machined pot metal. They only use hammer forging on the 10-22 bull barrels.

Not sure where that came from, but at a minimum it's inaccurate. All of their barrels are hammer forged.

Also not sure it's accurate to say that hammer forged barrels are superior, but they are certainly good barrels.

mtnman1 - +1 My four Ruger's shoot very well and the trigger and saftey lever have never broken off like they have on my last Remington's. CEJ...

Swampman1 -

Your first statement, about Rugers being made of pot metal, is as patently false as your second that only the 10/22�s get hammer-forged barrels.

Ruger has been an industry leader in the use of high-quality cast steel parts. Ruger receivers are known for their strength, as are Ruger revolvers, which use cast frames. The Ruger .454 and .480 revolvers use a special very-high tensile strength stainless � hardly what you can call �pot metal�. Ruger not only casts parts for themselves, they cast parts for many other companies and industries and are a highly respected vendor of such parts.

As to the barrels, all Ruger barrels are hammer forged using Ruger�s own equipment.

Howa's were also imported by Ithaca and Interarms with the 1500 moniker. How many rifles of "Brand X" that shoot poorly could be atttributed to operator error?

The current Mossberg ATR may be made in America, I don't know and don't care. The bolt actions they used to sell were Howas with Mossbergs name on them. I believe they were the 1500 and 1700.