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I have a Glenfield 30A and recently obtained a Westernfield 740A.
The guns are essencially the same except I like the wood grain stock of the Westernfield better, far more handsome then the birch pressed stock of the Glenfield. And both made prior to all these new safety features.

MY question is can I consider both these guns as true Marlin products or are they bastards that fall outside Marlin's reputation Inheritance <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

I have a Glenfield and other then wood they are the same internally and quality of metal. Consider it a Marlin and have fun. Mine shoots better then the actual 336 that I had. Ryan

I have a Sears Model 45 in 35 Rem , it's a straight grip 336. I think I got a better deal because it was marked Sears. It is 100% Marlin no matter the rollmark

That's the story of a bastard's life! It really hurts to know that you're just as valuable as your brother with who got the name but nobody will give you the same respect. They think that just because your daddy won't claim you, there's got to be something wrong with you.

And my western auto pump 12 ain't a mossberg 500, funny all the parts interchange <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

All of the 30As had subgrade wood; some (most) had non-Microgrooved barrels that were a touch longer than the Marlin Microgrooves, making them seem a little snout long over the magazine.

The action is identical.

Yep, both my Glenfield 30A and Westernfield 740 have that protruding barrel you described. I didn't know those protuding barrels were non microgrooved.

Some were, some weren't.

How can you tell? Can you tell by looking at the rifling?

Micro-grooves are something like 16 small grooves. Non-microgrooved rifling will be 4 or 6 grooves. VERY obvious if you look at the muzzle end of the rifle in question.

Should we bring up the "Bar Sinister" thing again.

I asked Grampa once what the difference was between a registered bull and the other kind. He said, "The registered bull has papers."

The non-micro barrels should do better with cast bullets if you handload.

Vigillinus....I think you accidently reversed that statment about micro-groove. It's the deeper, ballard style rifling that normally works better with cast bullets. Micro-groove barrels sometimes do work.....sometimes not.

Sorry....just noticed you said NON-micro groove barrels......misread it the first time

Just bought a Western Field today, a model 740 A-EMN (whatever that means.) The wood is walnut and there's about 90% blue on the rifle, and the stock is not quite as good as most of the Marlins of its time period that I've seen, which were straight-grained, plain and mostly very dark walnut. This one has a limb mark on the side, but it's stable and right on the outside of the stock.

It's not great wood for it's day, but by today's standards where a "hardwood stock" is standard on a lot of rifles, about average.

It was $199 in 30-30. Needed a car rifle.

Foremost by marlin.
What's in a name...it's a 336, no doubt, and shoots better than any of my thutty-thutties.
Made for J.C.Penney.
$125.00 used!

Can't beat it!!!!!

Were any Marlin levers ever marked Revelation?

Yup. See http://www.gun-data.com/western_auto_revelation.html or http://www.e-gunparts.com/crossref.asp

I have a Glenfield 30A as well.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> bought it for $179.99, and is a dang good shooter as well.

Definitely. I have a JC Higgins Model 50 bolt action in 30-06. The action is a commercial FN Mauser. The barrel is chrome lined and was made by High Standard. It is *very* accurate. If it had FN on the barrel instead of Sears it would be $1400 new, $600 used. I got it for $250.

I also have a Voere semi auto 22 that is worth $350-400 with a Ted Williams rollmark added to the barrel. I bought it marked "Sears 22 - $99".

I love house brand guns.

I own both a 336 Marlin 30-30 and a Western Auto Revelation 30-30.
The Revelation shoots better,and has prettier wood.
I am constantly cruising Auction Arms and GunBroker for Marlin "bastards" as you call them..I also look for the Winny "Bastards' like Ted Williams and such.
I even got one one time that was a Mossberg "bastard".I believe it was a WesternField.Wish I had not sold it as it is a bit of a rare find.

Here's my Glenfield Model 30. I think it's pretty nice looking.

That is nice looking..I prefer the 2/3 tube look as opposed to the full tube.

It's too bad that today, the notion of a "department store label" mean "junk". There was a time when the major chain stores were proud of their names, and they sold some very fine stuff. The FN Mausers imported by Sears are a good example. I had a Heym-manufactured Mauser that was sold under the "Western Field" label (Montgomery Wards), and I had real trouble selling it. It was a beautiful rifle; had Mauser proof marks all over it, but people thought, "Hmm, store gun--must be junk."

(I sold it because I'm left-handed and it was a right-handed bolt; never got used to it. Broke my heart to let go of such a nice piece of precision equipment.)

Sears sold some really nice rifles. They turn up in pawn shops pretty cheap now and then (found a Sears Marlin with a classic Japanese-made Bushnell scope for $170 or something; a "Ted Williams" Winchester 94 set me back all of $100).

I have recently come across a Marlin 30 that is very similiar to Swampmans above picture.
The price seems good.
The owner told me the serial number starts with AO.
What year was this rifle manufacturerd??

There was no "AO" prefix. It's probably "AD", which would indicate the year 1968.

Aardvark, I recently sold a western auto revelation. It was mfg by Mossberg.Not a bad little rifle.

Mine was stamped into the receiver 1 OF 1000

I researched it high and low and only came to the conclusion that it was a Mossberg 472...I thinks someone had some extra time and metal stamps on their hands...I even am a member of the Mossberg Collectors Association and no one there had ever heard of the 1 OF 1000 guns.