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In need of a lightweight packable rain shell jacket. My previous rain gear set that no longer works was the Cabela's Rain Suede. Worked OK at first but after a few washes the DWR no longer functions and the outer layer wets out and I get soaked underneath with very little moisture. Thinking about trying the Space Rain from Cabela's but not sure I want to go that route if it has a similar outer layer and requires the DWR to function.
Considering other jackets like the Marmot Precip, Patagonia Torrentshell, and REI Crestrail. Maybe even the Core4Element jacket. I live in and hunt Arizona almost exclusively so don't need a heavy duty jacket like the Kuiu Yukon or Helly Hansen Impertech. Just a light shell that is packable enough for me to always carry it. I really like the pit zips in the Kuiu Guide jacket I have so that is an option I would like to have but not a deal breaker. Would probably prefer a drab color without Camo. Any input?
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I have the marmot precip. We probably get more rain than you, but I'm still in that category of don't really need heavy duty rain gear.
Have you checked how you are washing/drying and what laundry products you are using? Marmot tells you not to use regular liquid laundry soaps.
There are some products made to wash clothes with DWR and then to restore it as well.
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As Ralphie stated, you can 're-do' the DWR. And no, the Space Rain doesn't require it as it is just a thin shell. I have read on this forum very good reviews of the Neoshell material from Polartec. It's supposed to be VERY breathable, which I think would be needed for use in AZ. Quite a few companies make jackets with the stuff, but they are either quite pricey or in loud colors or both. In searching for jackets with this material I came across a small shop in ID that custom makes stuff with it. I like the specs and choice along with the price. I haven't bought any yet, but when I'm due for new rain gear I will be giving them a call. http://foxwear.net/fabrics-and-colors-2/clothing/rain-gear/
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Always used the "sportwash" to clean it and dried in the drier on med high. Never used any heavy detergents or fabric softeners that I am aware of. I have looked into a redo on the DWR but the guessing game of whether the wax or nonwax versions or wash vs spray ins will work on my piece kinda steers me away from wanting to mess with all that.
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Check out Westcombs E-Vent products.
Built in Canada, this is the best stuff I have yet found among the "breathable" fabrics.
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A wise man is frequently humbled.
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In need of a lightweight packable rain shell jacket. My previous rain gear set that no longer works was the Cabela's Rain Suede. Worked OK at first but after a few washes the DWR no longer functions and the outer layer wets out and I get soaked underneath with very little moisture. Thinking about trying the Space Rain from Cabela's but not sure I want to go that route if it has a similar outer layer and requires the DWR to function.
Considering other jackets like the Marmot Precip, Patagonia Torrentshell, and REI Crestrail. Maybe even the Core4Element jacket. I live in and hunt Arizona almost exclusively so don't need a heavy duty jacket like the Kuiu Yukon or Helly Hansen Impertech. Just a light shell that is packable enough for me to always carry it. I really like the pit zips in the Kuiu Guide jacket I have so that is an option I would like to have but not a deal breaker. Would probably prefer a drab color without Camo. Any input? Wash 'em in Nikwax Techwash (best) or Atsko Sportwash (very good). Do NOT wash synthetic outoor clothing in regular laundry detergent....ever. Then use Nikwax TX Direct wash-in product, following the directions--don't skimp on the TX Direct, either. I have 4 of Cabela's "Stealth Cloth" rain parkas I bought in the early 90's. They are similar to the later Cabela's "Suede" that I have seen. Two parkas I saved back, the other two have been used a LOT. One parka is about to give up the ghost, but I still use it. Casey
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+ 1 on the Event.
I bought a light weight hooded REI rain jacket with the Event, and even without the pit zips, it does a good job keeping me dry and reducing condensation inside in light to moderate exertion. The material has to breathe or you will be just as wet from your own sweat condensing inside as going without (almost! :)a jacket. It seems to me that the Event breathes better than my Goretex stuff.
The material seems to be fairly durable, but I don't know if any light jacket will stand up well to a lot of heavy brush.
Given my take on what you seem to be interested in, I would recommend a jacket with the pit zips in combination with the Event material. IMHO, The pit zips help me keep from overheating as well as venting extra moisture.
Good luck.
Joe
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My previous rain gear set that no longer works was the Cabela's Rain Suede. Worked OK at first but after a few washes the DWR no longer functions and the outer layer wets out and I get soaked underneath with very little moisture. If you don't need heavy duty raingear, you can revive the DWR with a warm iron assuming your drier wasn't set high enough. It only takes a few minutes. And Revivex is what Simms recommends for their waders. It'll create a DWR finish on old gear.
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I have had several since my first WPB shell in 1978 and have 5 now. I live in BC, it is WET here.
I have two original Integral Designs eVent shells, they are VG to EX.
I have a Westcomb APOC Neoshell and have used it extensively for almost 3 years. It is so superior to ANY other that I wear it almost daily and they have a dull grey colour in their line.
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I'm looking into Foxwear and other Neoshell options. Seems like a great fabric. Thanks for the input.
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Marmut precip fits the bill for me. Check Sierra trading post, every now and then they'll be blowing it out and if you time it with an additional 20-30% coupon you can get it for less than 1/2 price. Picked up a pair of precip pants and a jacket a few years back with such a sale.
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precip has done fairly well for us in AK over about 7 years IIRC.
I wouldn't want to bust devils club or such, but its faired fine in alders and the like.
Still need to buy some HH rubber for the ATV rides in and out in real rain though.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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Kuiu Chugach has worked pretty dang good for me this season so far...
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Kuiu Chugach has worked pretty dang good for me this season so far... I should have bought a Chugach jacket when they were made in North America in solid color. The newer one is heavier and really don't like the redundant chest pocket. I have the same pet peeve with their baselayers, the pockets...who needs a pocket on their underwear? It sucks having OCD!
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Firstlite stormtight jacket.
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I have checked out that first lite jacket and it looks pretty dang solid. I'd give that a try if I was in need of a new rain coat
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I have the Patagonia Torrentshell and the Kuiu Chugach jackets.
The Torrentshell is nice and lightweight but I would say fairly light duty and no pit zips, which for me is a must if hiking with a pack. The Chugach is more heavy duty and breathes well with the pit zips and blocks the wind better.
If not expecting rain I'll bring the Torrentshell, if expecting rain I'll bring the Chugach. Got caught in rain and hail last year on a 9000' CO. mountainside in Nov. Chugach made it very comfortable for me while my partner bailed once he was soaked and cold.
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Kuiu Chugach has worked pretty dang good for me this season so far... Yes I used it earlier this month in AK and it worked very well.
My home is the "sanctuary residence" for my firearms.
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