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Well I a agree that some of the blue/mountain grouse varieties are as dumb as fence posts, the ruffed grouse is pretty wily.

Come out to Minny, the ruffed grouse capital of the US. They will humble most people in an afternoon.


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Originally Posted by battue
Around here Ruffed Grouse are far from the dumbest of game birds. Birds are down here from historic numbers and you are hunting survivors. They don't usually hang around all that much, although some do.

One thing I can tell Paddler is I have had the opportunity to hunt with some excellent Eastern Grouse hunters and a couple of them have what many would call a great Dog. And more than the proverbial one. They pretty much live the game. When it comes to a Bird giving them a fair opportunity, it odds are only slightly better than your in the tree pic. A couple of them are deadly, especially when they get into enough Birds and find their groove. Makes little difference to the Grouse.

If these guys would have have to hunt Grouse that were wilder they still would. Why? Simple really, they are hunters. Perhaps some would enjoy it more with the increased challenge. They obviously have more than a few Birds and there are covers they again obviously never
touch and they only take a very small percentage of available Birds.

They do it differently, but they do it legally. Anything else is personal preference.

If it makes you feel a little better. However, I kinda took an unfair advantage that day. They were not all that interested in flying, but when forced to had no choice. Nor is a Model 59 a double. In fact it is more efficient than most of them. grin


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Battue, the dog looks quite happy.


Or did you harvest a small black bear that day also? grin

Thanks for the pic and story,

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Originally Posted by Valsdad


PPS. I sure wish I could be out walking around in the woods, or at least in my garden. It is a bright clear warm fall day here on the dry side of WA. But, I require money to feed my outdoor pursuits and such, and therefor must slave away the day.


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I'm a douchebag and here is my douchebag house. My dog hates me.


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Damn, Paddler was even too much of a douchebag for Utah Refuge , he was banned.

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I apologize Paddler, I see that you posted that you are 63, so the above photo must be your douchebag son, my bad.



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Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Well I a agree that some of the blue/mountain grouse varieties are as dumb as fence posts, the ruffed grouse is pretty wily.

Come out to to Minny, the ruffed grouse capital of the US. They will humble most people in an afternoon.


The ones in the east Tennessee mountain thickets are dang hard to pin down too. The terrain is steep the cover is impenetrable and the grouse are nervous as a queer eating a hotdog.


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Valsdad,

I wouldn't call Toby a great Birddog, but he is a hunter with a lot of heart. He obviously was pushing his way that day and got birdy in some nasty conditions. Sadly at 10 or 11 time is taking its toll. Big for a Cocker.

The new guy is much smaller and I doubt will be as muscular. Not sure if he will ever be able to run on a day like that, but it looks like he will have a better nose. Time will tell.





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Originally Posted by FieldGrade
Originally Posted by Valsdad


PPS. I sure wish I could be out walking around in the woods, or at least in my garden. It is a bright clear warm fall day here on the dry side of WA. But, I require money to feed my outdoor pursuits and such, and therefor must slave away the day.


Horse hockey.

You're pontificating on the internet on company time...now get your ass back to work. smile


oops, busted. blush

Geno

PS I'm not a pontif, there are not enough nice robes in my wardrobe, so please accuse me of shirking or something other than pontificating. grin

PPS and by the way there, you're getting awfully close to breaking the unwritten campfire rule for too many letters and syllables in one word with that one buddy! laugh


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ALL I got to say about this IS WHEN'S SUPPER grin

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I figured it was a cocker.. I seem to remember a thread/pics of your new one, maybe? And I'm really happy there are still a few like you that hunt them as they were meant to be.

ANd hold out hope for the new one in the snow. Short legged dogs don't always realize they are. We had a wonderful English bull/ Lab cross. Bulldog height and legs, lab attitude. It astonished us how much she loved snow when we moved from N CA to NW PA. She would have a blast in it. Didn't hunt, but just loved going out in the snow.

Best of luck with the new one. And commiseration over our dogs growing old. If you're a dog person like us, you'll go thru it a few more times.

Now, where were we? Oh, yes, right back to grouse in dumptrucks.

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Originally Posted by Valsdad


PPS and by the way there, you're getting awfully close to breaking the unwritten campfire rule for too many letters and syllables in one word with that one buddy! laugh


I thought about that after posting but I let it go figuring that none of these ground sluice'n hicks were smart enough to take off a shoe so's to get an accurate count.

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I have run a Cheyenne Morrison for a very long time with 2 sets of limbs. One set is 67 at 28, I have a 31 draw. The good lord blessed me with the above average genetics.

I hope you make it as long as you like but am calling bs on your bow limbs.

Those are dink tuna and should have been released as well. I could not id the species as the video was to short but appeared albacore ish. To thump ones chest about such small fish, high priced doubles and high poundage trad bows is all i need to know about a guy like you.

I know a ton of so called doctor hunter types that profess and thump sportsman morals, poetic book quotes and such , they are always the first to tuck tail when the rubber meets the road.

Want to stop gun violence, take away entitlements and take and eye for an eye.


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Originally Posted by teamprairiedog
What about slob fishermen that actually use a boat to go fishing from instead of being a sporting he-man and swimming up the river to where the fishing spot is. Some of them actually stoop so low as to use a rod and reel instead of a handline... give the poor fish a chance folks. Catching fish while swim-trolling with a handline now that's for a real sportsman.


I troll buy swimming with a #3 mepps tied to my pecker.


im not impressed......i swim with a salmon rig down 70 foot tied to mine.....while the lake is whitecapping....


I fish in a lake infested with young tiger muskie and the thought of one of them toothie S.O.B's biting my tally whacker gives me nightmares!!!!!

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laugh laugh

That deserved two,

Well they wouldn't be in too bad of shape if they were wearing slip ons, but if they took off the ones with laces, they'd have to find someone to help them tie 'em back up.

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laugh laugh

yours too wyo260.

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Good thing that lake's only stocked with tiger "muskie" and not those tiger fish from Africa! Guy swims with those he might be looking up Ol Mr Bobbit's docs!


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I can't believe I've read 14 pages of this.




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Originally Posted by snubbie
I can't believe I've read 14 pages of this.




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Another dumb hick......it's only six pages on my puter. grin

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Last night while leaving my archery stand I snuck under a pair of long beards roosted. If it would have been legal for me to shoot them in the tree with my bow I would have been more than happy to be eating thanksgiving early. If the man is hunting game within legal hunting parameters, it says part of his character is that he abides by the law. Using that quote about what a man does when nobody is looking in no way shape or form applies in any way but in a positive sense in this situation. Implying otherwise is just ignorant, there were no laws broken. Just good shooting. I bet it was a pile of fun and good eats.

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We got more today, we used a dog to appease the sportsmen...

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