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And if the Republicans puck it up, bad things, very bad things will follow.



http://www.bostonherald.com/news_op...e_as_many_as_four_supreme_court_justices


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Agree! But we can't rely on Republicans in the Senate. We have got to elect a Republican president. Got to!


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The Court has been 5-4 on our side for many issues. If it slips the other way we are done, so done that your private lives and beliefs will be taken from you and you will be helpless to do a damn thing about it.


Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
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We're not helpless, yet, just complacent and complicit.



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I get the bravado talk, I do. But failure to understand how close this country is to the edge of Socialism spells disaster.

Whoever rules the courts will rule this Nation. If we allow Hillary the WH she will take us over the edge.

Heed me, the end is at your door step.


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Seems like you are in the right place to get things changed. I'm betting you have a lot more neighbors, dentists, baggers, checkout gals etc that will vote the liberal vote than I could ever imagine finding.

Get out on the streets Harry and turn the liberal suck hole called Massatwoshiets into a conservative state. Pounding the drum here ain't gonna help much.



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You have used up your daily limit of Massatwoshiets......


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Just stating Fact. You complain about blue lever pullers, but you live in a blue lever puller haven. Go get them slugger.



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Say how much is the sales tax in your state by chance?


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Originally Posted by Harry M
Say how much is the sales tax in your state by chance?


I agree that this issue is hugely important. Judicial appointments will have a tremendous impact, maybe forever. We are at a critical point in the nation's history.

Then comes immigration and the economy..

Individual state taxes are trivial in comparison. You can always move if you do not like them and in fact hundreds of thousands are doing so and others are moving their assets. (That is my line of work these days.)

BTW, the worst are NY, CT, NJ, Ca, off the top of my head followed by MA, MN and a few others.

I never thought I would be pushing a New York resident for Pres, but I think he would do the best on the issues, even with his rude personality, which is not all bad. grin


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Good, bad or indifferent, I think Trump is the only Repub with a realistic chance to win the general election.

He may not be my 1st preference but I'll take him over Hildebeast or the village idiot, Biden.

But Trump could also be a very loose cannon.............

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Originally Posted by Harry M
And if the Republicans puck it up, bad things, very bad things will follow.



http://www.bostonherald.com/news_op...e_as_many_as_four_supreme_court_justices
You're probably right because I don't see anyone on either side that is likely to take on the REAL issues of America. Any D is going to try to get gun control, you can count on that.

On the other hand, with the exception of the Heller decision, SCOTUS has made a complete mess out of most other significant decisions. The "conservative" justices have been happy to make just as many horrible decisions as the liberals as of late.

Train wrecks from the right:
Heller & McCutcheon cases.
Mutual Pharmaceutical case.


Train wrecks from the left:
Wickard vs. Filburn was a power grab by the left.
NFIB v. Sebelius gave us the "tax" of Obamacare


By some miracle 9 justices came together and got Riley vs. California right.

Let's hope we get some better justices soon.

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Originally Posted by Harry M
The Court has been 5-4 on our side for many issues. If it slips the other way we are done, so done that your private lives and beliefs will be taken from you and you will be helpless to do a damn thing about it.


BS!

There are over 100 million gun owners in this country. Even IF they could get 90% compliance to gun confiscations(which won't happen), that leaves over 10 million armed, pissed off vets, police, rednecks, etc etc.

Think about.


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Originally Posted by Harry M
And if the Republicans puck it up, bad things, very bad things will follow.



http://www.bostonherald.com/news_op...e_as_many_as_four_supreme_court_justices



Yes, it's THE thing that matters.


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Originally Posted by SBTCO
Originally Posted by Harry M
The Court has been 5-4 on our side for many issues. If it slips the other way we are done, so done that your private lives and beliefs will be taken from you and you will be helpless to do a damn thing about it.


BS!

There are over 100 million gun owners in this country. Even IF they could get 90% compliance to gun confiscations(which won't happen), that leaves over 10 million armed, pissed off vets, police, rednecks, etc etc.

Think about.


You're on Crack.

We can't even get the Gun Owners on this forum to get off their f-en ass and vote against the Democrat machine because their "candidate" didn't get the nomination, let alone organize a a "revolution" or even a successful "protest".

Enjoy your Crack.


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Originally Posted by Harry M
The Court has been 5-4 on our side for many issues. If it slips the other way we are done, so done that your private lives and beliefs will be taken from you and you will be helpless to do a damn thing about it.
I think the powers that be like a precarious balance, and exert their full power, regardless of who's president, to keep it that way. Look at how often Republican appointees turn out to be total traitors on key issues. Someone has to be behind the scenes arranging for that outcome. That many mistakes over so long a time period cannot be a mere accumulation of accidents.

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Originally Posted by steve4102
We can't even get the Gun Owners on this forum to get off their f-en ass and vote against the Democrat machine because their "candidate" didn't get the nomination, let alone organize a a "revolution" or even a successful "protest".


A very valid, albeit very scary point. Well said sir.

We better ALL get off our lazy rear end's next November, regardless of who the nominee is!

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Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by SBTCO
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The Court has been 5-4 on our side for many issues. If it slips the other way we are done, so done that your private lives and beliefs will be taken from you and you will be helpless to do a damn thing about it.


BS!

There are over 100 million gun owners in this country. Even IF they could get 90% compliance to gun confiscations(which won't happen), that leaves over 10 million armed, pissed off vets, police, rednecks, etc etc.

Think about.


You're on Crack.

We can't even get the Gun Owners on this forum to get off their f-en ass and vote against the Democrat machine because their "candidate" didn't get the nomination, let alone organize a a "revolution" or even a successful "protest".

Enjoy your Crack.


Ain't gonna happen cuz they don't got enough boots on the ground to take on an armed populous(remember that number, 100 million +).

Kinda the whole point of the second amendment.



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Originally Posted by SBTCO
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The Court has been 5-4 on our side for many issues. If it slips the other way we are done, so done that your private lives and beliefs will be taken from you and you will be helpless to do a damn thing about it.


BS!

There are over 100 million gun owners in this country. Even IF they could get 90% compliance to gun confiscations(which won't happen), that leaves over 10 million armed, pissed off vets, police, rednecks, etc etc.

Think about.


True but we only have 2-2.5 million who actually do anything.

I'll say this again. If we had 100 million folks in the NRA we would OWN unlimited gun rights in this nation, as we should BTW


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You do realize the second amendment ain't worth the paper it's written on.


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