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I still split the pelvis on my deer using a 3.5-ish long knife to "core the apple". Actually I use a Sagen saw, but my question is about methods for meat quality.
any reason to modify my method to "core" only and not open up that meat for the saw?
May need a longer knife?
What camp do you guys fall into?
Extra info: I take my deer into a local processor the same day typically and I hunt cooler northern MN.
Edit: We hunt behind the family farm Basically gut them and get it close to a trail where we can pick up with an ATV or pckup. Drag distance... 200 yards max.
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'Dinger,
I always split mine, then wipe clean with a 20% vinegar / 80% water solution.
Solution cleans, as well as kills bacteria, before hanging.
Hang for 4-8 days & then process myself.
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Never split. You expose meat by doing so.
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I never have split one. If you have to move the carcass any distance ,having the pelvis in one piece prevents those back legs from flipping around as you drag it. Being careful to not knick the bladder or colon and no one should worry about contaminating the meat
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humdinger,
I prefer not to split. Are you using a knife with a bolster guard on it to cut around the hoop? The guard and this chore in particular is one of the reasons I prefer my knives without the guard.
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Never split. You expose meat by doing so. M'Scott, yes you definitely expose meat, but I don't see a down side here, as you also do when you skin your deer ! Do you butcher your own deer, or use a processor ? If you do your own deer, do you hang skin on, or skinned ?
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no split
hang with skin on
7-10 days 38 degrees
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Split, always. If it's not freezing, shove an 8lb bag of ice down into the pelvis to cool off those quarters until it gets to a processor..
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I don't split the pelvis when dressing in the field, split the chest cavity all the way up and prop open for the ride home add ice if the temps warrent. Back at camp if it late season I like to let hang with the skin on, early season the carcass is skinned and quartered and hung in the rafters of the barn. Butchered within 2-3 days, made into five basic cuts, steaks, roasts, stew meat chunks, jerky strips and deerburger (3# venison to 1# porkbutt).
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I've actually switched camps. I don't split anymore unless I cannot get the goodies out for some reason. First, it's faster not to split. Second, I've actually cut my hand on the bone before. And last, it's cleaner getting the deer out.
I will split it to clean it better once it's hanging up.
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Im with tzone and others. I used to carry a small hatchet to split them, now I don't bother. It is typically pretty cold where I hunt and we have had to hang deer inside the cabin to prevent freezing our hands when skinning and taking them apart.
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I never do in the field. I will once I get the animal hung up. If for no other reason than to attempt to drain the bladder into something. I always try to salvage the piss when ever I can. It comes in handy.
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humdinger,
Are you using a knife with a bolster guard on it to cut around the hoop?
No guard on the current knife (bark river gunny hunter) and a very small guard on my old case western 4" I got for xmas decades ago. Both blades are roughly buck 110-ish in size
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I always try to salvage the piss when ever I can. It comes in handy. I have to ask... What for? Bear Grylls cocktails? ;-)
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Never split any more.
Butcher my own ASAP. No hang time.
Sometimes I split the chest, sometimes not. Depends on if the heart is already loose. If I can hook my fingers over the heart and pull back the trachea and esophagus to cut them off, I do not split the chest.
If it's warm, Bambi gets stripped and on blue ice packs in a cooler ASAP, often no more than an hour or two after it's dead.
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I always try to salvage the piss when ever I can. It comes in handy. I have to ask... What for? Bear Grylls cocktails? ;-) No, bear grylls probably has better places to hunt than I do! I'll use it as a cover scent for the most part. I've put it on my boots, a drag line, used it in scrapes. Deer are pretty curious in nature, along with most other animal in the woods. I've had a lot of intended as well as unintended critters come into it. I'll even cut of the hocks of a deer if their ripe and use them sometimes too. They will freeze well so they can even be used the next season. Just write one the baggie whats in side. Trust me on that one!
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I used to( because I was told I needed to),but not always anymore,but only when it's hanging,not in the field.
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Around here it can be 110 when deer season opens. Just gut in the field then it's off to the shop where they are hung, skinned and halved. I use a Sawzall to split. Hang over nite with a deer bag then it's off to the processor the next morning.
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Not sure I follow. Is the purpose to haul, keep cool or debone? A meet hook and a sharp boner. I'm not as good or as fast as this guy, but this is how I do it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xijmge8_NJw
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I split, never had much luck with the 'core' method, I like to see what I'm doing in there.
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