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I've heard that the bullet is actually a copy of the Speer Deep Curl bullet..... but you know about hear-say ...

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My experience is Fusion ammo shoots well, but recently I shot some 7mm-08's and found they were soft and expanded excessively when reloaded. Loads were well within book. I tried the same loads in Nosler and Norma brass, and they worked fine.

So I'll say if you don't reload it's a pretty good deal, but after the same problem with some Gold Match .308's, I'm about done with Federal brass.


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weird,ive got some 7wsm with 7 reloadings on it with a full boat of rl22


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I like federal brass quite a bit as well. It seems a lot more consistent than remington


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Originally Posted by tzone
I like federal brass quite a bit as well. It seems a lot more consistent than remington


^^^^^^ Mirrors my experience ^^^^^^

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Truth be told, I don't have a lot of experience with it, but that's what I've gathered in the few months I've been doing it.


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Originally Posted by mathman
I've put several guys at my camp onto Fusions in various cartridges for deer, the results have been good all around.

The price is on the low end of the scale, the terminal performance is good, and most rifles seem to shoot it pretty well.


+1 to Mathman's comments !

6 whitetails with the 95gr in the .243
3 whitetails with the 140gr in the wife's 7mm-08
7 whitetails with the 150gr in .308
2 moose with the 165gr in .308

They are accurate in these 3 rifles & flat out work !


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Can't get a better endorsement than that!


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Sounds like some good stuff. I'll have to give it a shot one of these days.


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i use the 200's in my 338 fed and it shoots small groups and blows serious holes in whitetails. none have taken a step.


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I've suggested the .243 Win/95 gr load to several friends and it's shot well in all rifles and killed several big game animals with authority.

If I had to use factory (GASP!!) I'd use Fusion for sure.

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I had a couple of cartridges that wouldn't chamber at the bench a couple of years ago. It was limited to that one box and I haven't had an issue since. Both rounds failed to chamber in two different rifles.

Other than that, can't say enough good things about Fusion. 165 grain in 30-06 shoots very well in all my rifles. It's also the only bullet I've ever put thru my 300 wsm. The one bullet I cut out of the far shoulder of a whitetail looked to have mushroomed perfectly and retained most of the bullet.

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I have used the Fusion Ammo in my Rem HB .308 on around 10 deer. All DRT (high shoulder shots) and recovered only one.

A 180 grain that entered the shoulder on a quartering to shot at just over 300 yards and was found under the skin at the rear of the ribcage ham area IIRC. None of the others stayed inside. It was a 1-1/4" load for that rifle. Not the buck that this bullet was in but another one shot with fusions.

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My son has killed between 6-8 deer with his .243 all but one with the 95 grain fusions. That rifle shoots them right at an inch for 5 shots with him pulling the trigger. But that rifle shoots everthing I've tried in it about the same. Only reovered 2 bullets on quartering shots.


One of these bullets was the doe pictured below on the plus side of 200 yards and the other on a Black Buck under 100 yards.


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I reload most of my own hunting bullets now and generally use Nosler or Hornady bullets. But if forced to use factory ammo, Federal is where I start looking first. Blue Box stuff has been consistently accurate for me followed by the Fusion line. Although at most of my hunting distances, as long as it holds at least a 2 inch group at 100 yards, I'm good to go.

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Originally Posted by mathman
Simply because a bullet is bonded does not make it an exit every time bullet.

The Fusion has good weight retention due to the bonding, but it also expands quickly and broadly which works against penetration.


My experience of one. I used a 115 Fusion from a 6.8 at 50 yards on a small deer. Broadside heart lung shot. One of the fastest kills I've seen without hitting CNS. No exit.


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Originally Posted by mailmanmark
I've heard that the bullet is actually a copy of the Speer Deep Curl bullet..... but you know about hear-say ...


It is not a copy of the Speer Deep Curl, it is the Speer Deep Curl. Federal and Speer are owned by the same company, makes sense to use your company's bullets instead of a competitor's.

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Not exactly the same, but manufacturered using the same technology. One is BT the other is/was flat based.

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The 120 gr. 260's shoot well in both our M77s. I shot a small doe that was quartering toward. The shot was low but took out the bottom of the heart. She was completely bled out by the time we found her; traveled about 75 yards after being hit with a huge exit hole in the off hand side. Blood trail was massive. 'Gote 2 shot a smallish buck (about 120) last weekend quartering away. Bullet entered the left rear of the rib cage but didn't exit. He staggered once and went down like a sack of potatoes. When they field dressed him the bullet was found just under the hide in front of the front leg. Insignificant sample size but they seem to work quite well.

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165gr in 308 has worked extremely well for me. Accurate, inexpensive, and deadly. i might try that hornady whitetail that people seem to like but for 308, results for that seem to be favorable as well.

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With all the good results I heard I picked up a box of 140 grain in 7mm-08 to try in my wifes Remington model 700 compact.Thanks for all the replies

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My nephew used the Fusion Lite in 30-06 on a large mule deer doe at about 75 yards, result very dead deer.


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