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I hope Karma kicks both of them right square in the kkhuntt! Already has!
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9/25/2015 Reopen Case - Ch 7
9/25/2015 Examination
Boy; I bet those are some interesting filings. Anyone here signed up with docket alarm to be able to read the findings? At $99 a month sign-up fee, I'd be surprised if anyone has,... but then you never know. Could be a business expense deduction for someone!
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Sounds like a "Fund Me" page in the works for the $99 We can hold a pizza fundraiser. It'd be a pizza topped with bologna............
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https://www.docketalarm.com/cases/W...5/Mark_B_Claiborne_and_Sherri_Claiborne/ Filing Date # Docket Text
9/25/2015 29 Examination 9/25/2015 28 Reopen Case - Ch 7 9/23/2015 27 Received Unsigned Order 9/23/2015 26 Received Unsigned Order 9/23/2015 25 Examination Under 20049/23/2015 24 Reopen Case - Ch 7 (fee) 2/17/2015 23 Close Bankruptcy Case - Final Decree (text entry) 12/23/2014 22 Received Unsigned Order 12/16/2014 21 Received Unsigned Order 12/16/2014 20 Enlarge Time to File Reaffirmation Agreement 12/14/2014 19 BNC Certificate of Mailing - Discharge of Debtor 12/11/2014 18 Automatic Discharge of Debtor (ch 7) What Is a 2004 Examination in Bankruptcy?
The 2004 examination in bankruptcy is like a deposition -- the trustee, creditor, or debtor can get more information about property, income, or possible fraud.
... Reasons the Trustee or a Creditor Might Conduct a 2004 Examination 2004 examinations occur in only a minority of bankruptcy cases. In most cases, you won’t be required to attend a 2004 examination unless you have a complicated bankruptcy or commit some type of fraud. The following are some of the most common reasons the trustee or your creditors may schedule a 2004 examination: •to locate your property •to examine your financial transactions •to determine whether you lied on your bankruptcy papers or otherwise committed bankruptcy fraud, or •to determine whether you should be allowed to discharge (wipe out) one or more of your debts.
http://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/bankruptcy/2004-examination-in-bankruptcy.html
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So, on 9/23, the custodian holds a little fact finding tour, and within 2 days, he re-opens the case.
That's peculiar....
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If anyone has hidden asset information, now is the time to get it to the Trustee. You are looking for assets that he held on the date of filing and did not disclose.
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The 2004 exam also means that assets hidden will be seized, even if they were sold (they'll track down the new owners, seize them, and have the new owners file a claim against Mark & Sherri), and if they cannot be found then any other assets currently owned will be subject to a lien in the amount(s) of the unrecovered assets.
That means the good folks here on the campfire that bought items from Mark may very well be contacted, have the items seized, and they'll have to cooperate AND file claim against Claiborne.
Mark laid it all out, right here on the campfire, as to what he had... and you can bet it wasn't listed on the filings. The Trustee can and likely will perform a full and complete investigation (with or through the FBI and law enforcement). That will include any purchase/sales receipts, computer and cell phone records, etc.
Mark and Sherri will be DAMNED lucky if the Trustee doesn't turn that info. over to ATF and the Washington state authorities for any interstate gun deals without an FFL, or violations of the WA firearms transfer laws. And then there's the matter of the IRS possibly getting involved. If the Trustee finds tax discrepancies, that can be forwarded to the IRS officers and have them take a lookie-loo.
They're up sheit creek without a paddle. Phfucked to a degree that most of us don't ever want to imagine...
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Geez.
I certainly hope no one here decided to be a good Sam and helped Claiborne liquidate some items out of the kindness of their heart.
That may leave a (conspiratorial) mark.
No pun intended...
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The 2004 exam also means that assets hidden will be seized, even if they were sold (they'll track down the new owners, seize them, and have the new owners file a claim against Mark & Sherri), and if they cannot be found then any other assets currently owned will be subject to a lien in the amount(s) of the unrecovered assets.
That means the good folks here on the campfire that bought items from Mark may very well be contacted, have the items seized, and they'll have to cooperate AND file claim against Claiborne.
Mark laid it all out, right here on the campfire, as to what he had... and you can bet it wasn't listed on the filings. The Trustee can and likely will perform a full and complete investigation (with or through the FBI and law enforcement). That will include any purchase/sales receipts, computer and cell phone records, etc.
Mark and Sherri will be DAMNED lucky if the Trustee doesn't turn that info. over to ATF and the Washington state authorities for any interstate gun deals without an FFL, or violations of the WA firearms transfer laws. And then there's the matter of the IRS possibly getting involved. If the Trustee finds tax discrepancies, that can be forwarded to the IRS officers and have them take a lookie-loo.
They're up sheit creek without a paddle. Phfucked to a degree that most of us don't ever want to imagine... It isn't Christian, but it is K-A-R-M-A! Since Mark was always claiming some sort of Christian high moral ground, he can spend his time in purgatory chewing on the words found in Proverbs 16:18, Luke 6:31, and Matthew 7:12. The very fact that Mark and Sherri came onto this site and flaunted their material wealth so shortly after closing a bankruptcy seems like the height of arrogance, pride, and stupidity to me. I have to wonder if the bankruptcy trustee would have reexamined the case if not for 24HCF members contacting him and pointing out Mark's and Sherri's posts.
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Is it wrong that I really want him (Mark) to get back into this thread to see how he tries to flip this????
Last edited by hillestadj; 10/27/15.
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I couldn't sleep last night so I read this thread from beginning to end. I knew safariman wasn't to be trusted but I had no idea just how bad everything was....
Life really can be stranger than fiction.
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I'm glad some members have been on this like glaze on a doughnut.
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Is it wrong that I really want him (Mark) to get back into this thread to see how he tries to flip this???? More lies?
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The 2004 exam also means that assets hidden will be seized, even if they were sold (they'll track down the new owners, seize them, and have the new owners file a claim against Mark & Sherri), and if they cannot be found then any other assets currently owned will be subject to a lien in the amount(s) of the unrecovered assets.
That means the good folks here on the campfire that bought items from Mark may very well be contacted, have the items seized, and they'll have to cooperate AND file claim against Claiborne.
Mark laid it all out, right here on the campfire, as to what he had... and you can bet it wasn't listed on the filings. The Trustee can and likely will perform a full and complete investigation (with or through the FBI and law enforcement). That will include any purchase/sales receipts, computer and cell phone records, etc.
Mark and Sherri will be DAMNED lucky if the Trustee doesn't turn that info. over to ATF and the Washington state authorities for any interstate gun deals without an FFL, or violations of the WA firearms transfer laws. And then there's the matter of the IRS possibly getting involved. If the Trustee finds tax discrepancies, that can be forwarded to the IRS officers and have them take a lookie-loo.
They're up sheit creek without a paddle. Phfucked to a degree that most of us don't ever want to imagine... I would think, too, if it turns out that their bankruptcy is not discharged due to fraudulent discloser of assets, Asphaltangel could also be subject to garnishment of her wages by creditors listed in their bankruptcy filings, should they choose to do so. The same goes for Safariman, if he has already, or does in the future, return to working at some kind of a paying job.
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arrogance, pride, and stupidity Those three words best describe Claiborne - pre and post court procedures. I don't ever recall a guy more enslaved by ego and materialism.
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i'm not going to have to forfeit all those barbershop quartet gospel CD's i bought from him am i? i'd give up my fuggen kidney before..... ah, nevermind.
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I have an image of him back at the 'hearing' in a wheelchair, with an oxygen bottle hooked up, looking like one of those mob guys in the movies trying to keep out of the pen.
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I have an image of him back at the 'hearing' in a wheelchair, with an oxygen bottle hooked up, looking like one of those mob guys in the movies trying to keep out of the pen. LOL Book it!
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I started reading this till the [bleep] got deep which was the first post and them jumped to the last one
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