I had this rifle in my keep forever pile, and I really do love it, but I have a monster Rx bill coming for the immunosupresant drugs I have to take now, plus co pays etc. for my hospital stay and Kidney Transplant. So, this one is back up for sale. I would consider a Mauser, Ruger mdl 77 Mk ll, or Winchester pre 64 or Classic action 30/06 as a part trade.
When I posted this rifle up in the custom rifle section here, the guys who know lots more about these kinds of things than I do or ever will surmised that this is likely a Len Brownell build. Partly (largely?) based upon the wonderfully executed tapered octagon barrel WITH integral rib. Apparently one of his trademarks. I only have that input, no provenance to that. What I DO know is that this is a VERY high end build, pretty as pretty can be, and it shoots well and kills Mule Deer at long range with ease. Yes, I do hunt with it and it has a few small stock dings from being an actual hunting rifle.
The chamber on this rifle was cut generously enough that a 300 WinMag case that has only been necked down to 7mm fits and runs terrific. So this is actually a 7mm Practical or a 7mm/300 WinMAg but the Flour De Liese (SP?) engraving on the barrel is so pretty, and 7mm Mashburn as well as 7mm WBY and 7mm RemMag ammo all run in it too so no reason IMO to change that engraving at all.
Some features besides the awesome tapered and ribbed octagon barrel include a Model 70 style safety, custom Bases and QD lever release rings that perfectly fit THIS rifle only, and fit a 42mm objective lens Leupold scope exactly perfectly. Scope that is on it is a just back from Leupold from getting a full re build as its erector assembly went wonky last fall. It is a gloss 4.5-14x42. Only the width of a business card distance between the bottom of the Objective lens and the Express sight base. Also a neat extra lever on the bolt stop/release and many other features that I am forgetting. I simply use a 7mm STW die set to neck the 300 WinMag brass down and it makes perfect ammunition.
Dropping the price $1,000 from the last time I sold it (then bought it back at about the same price), to only $3995 with scope, ammo, brass, including shipping.
My mule deer load pushes 120gr TTSX's (Moly'ed) to 3700fps. Pretty deadly on deer, for sure. I also have several hundred bullets in 139-140gr from Hornaday (GMX) and Nosler (Accubond) all Moly'ed up to go with the rifle.
Yes, the rifle looks the same. No bluing loss or finish missing. The difference is only the upgraded scope. Went from a 6x42 to the 4.5-14x42 scope. The tiny 'dings' do not show in a photo. Quite miniscule. This rifle was owned by another member for a couple of years, I have only hunted with it one season, which lasted two days before I tagged out. Been too sick to hunt for a while now.
I can provide those (other pictures) to a seriously interested party. Those are what I have for now, and are an accurate depiction. Also most of them are in good focus. I am a rifle nut, not a photographer.
The other member from here did not hunt with it, he was overseas while he owned it.
OH, I just realized that I did not own this rifle in '08, that is the date from the photo grouping I put on a batch of rifle pictures. I bough it in 2011 or 2012. I have owned it twice, hunted with it one season.
If someone thinks I need to make a change to the ad, please suggest that via PM. thank you. It has always been considered bad form to knock a rifle or other item in the open forum here. I would appreciate it if the posts going forward were from interested parties.
OH, I just realized that I did not own this rifle in '08, that is the date from the photo grouping I put on a batch of rifle pictures. I bough it in 2011 or 2012. I have owned it twice, hunted with it one season.
If someone thinks I need to make a change to the ad, please suggest that via PM. thank you. It has always been considered bad form to knock a rifle or other item in the open forum here. I would appreciate it if the posts going forward were from interested parties.
When I posted this rifle up in the custom rifle section here, the guys who know lots more about these kinds of things than I do or ever will surmised that this is likely a Len Brownell build. Partly (largely?) based upon the wonderfully executed tapered octagon barrel WITH integral rib. Apparently one of his trademarks. I only have that input, no provenance to that.
How about a link to that thread with the assumptions made therein for full reference?
If you are not interested in this rifle, please quit trying to hijack my thread. I do not do this to you or anyone else. Thank you.
I will now answer questions from a serious inquiry / possible buyer only. And I am happy to answer any questions and/or send brand new pics of any angle to such a person.
So, you are claiming an enormous bill for prescription drugs coming your way from the transplant?
Originally Posted by safariman
I had this rifle in my keep forever pile, and I really do love it, but I have a monster Rx bill coming for the immunosupresant drugs I have to take now, plus co pays etc. for my hospital stay and Kidney Transplant.
Odd, consider you've stated before that you are on Medicare (and you have posted that everything was covered for you and your cousin on threads here).
Even the transplant center puts up that the costs of those drugs is covered by Medicare at 80%: https://www.virginiamason.org/FinancialCounseling All of your co-pays would be covered at 100%, save the physician's service that would be covered at 80%.
I am sure that you would be aware that Medicare Supplemental Insurance (the kind that you sold for so many years to so many people) would cover the other 20% for both costs, right?
You've also been buying stuff recently on here. That would seem odd from someone who has a huge bill coming.
Admit it, you're full of schit and lying again, trying to come up with an "oh, poor pitiful me" excuse to get someone suckered in to buy something that likely isn't represented truthfully in the first place. It is a rather standard MO of yours around here (and elsewhere), with years of history to back it up.
So it was another 7mm you sent to have the chamber cut on?
May 2012
Originally Posted by safariman
I could also use some gunsmithing services, need a rifle re chambered from 7mm Remington Magnum to 7mm/300WinMag or 7mm Mashburn super.
Remington Nylon 66, especially if Apache black might get my attention as well.
Colt Revolvers are always a good item.....
Sept 2013
Originally Posted by safariman
If the rifle is of any value, I spend $15-20.00 at oe of the "MART" stores for a hard sided rifle case to ship in. And, I use USPS exclusively. Yeah, I have had problems with UPS and Fed Ex both damaging guns and not honoring the claim. I try to ship in such a way as to eliminate the possibility of the gun being damamged. No system is foolproof but a hard side gun case is a cheap $20.00 insurance policy for nicer guns and this has worked for me. Just got my Len Brownell full custom 7mm Mashburn Super back from a 'smith in Calif that way and it still looks perfect.
So it was another 7mm you sent to have the chamber cut on?
May 2012
Originally Posted by safariman
I could also use some gunsmithing services, need a rifle re chambered from 7mm Remington Magnum to 7mm/300WinMag or 7mm Mashburn super.
Remington Nylon 66, especially if Apache black might get my attention as well.
Colt Revolvers are always a good item.....
Sept 2013
Originally Posted by safariman
If the rifle is of any value, I spend $15-20.00 at oe of the "MART" stores for a hard sided rifle case to ship in. And, I use USPS exclusively. Yeah, I have had problems with UPS and Fed Ex both damaging guns and not honoring the claim. I try to ship in such a way as to eliminate the possibility of the gun being damamged. No system is foolproof but a hard side gun case is a cheap $20.00 insurance policy for nicer guns and this has worked for me. Just got my Len Brownell full custom 7mm Mashburn Super back from a 'smith in Calif that way and it still looks perfect.
Well, this newest set of lies from Mark Claiborne is unraveling quickly.
I have re chambered a 300 Win MAg to a 300 WBY and did that one myself with a borrowed reamer, lots of cutting oil and a "T" handle. It shot great before and after with Orignal Barnes X 180's, Moly'ed. I just did a 7mm RemMAg custom MAuser from 7mm RemMAg to 7mm Mashburn Super and it is a really good shooter but I never shot it before as a 7mm Remington Magnum. I was afraid that if I took it and shot it as a commone SEVEN EM EM MAGGIE I would lose my rilfe looney card and or die form boredom at the shooting bench
This is September of 2012. But in a Quote above you had also just received the rifle back from a smith in California in 2013, so you had more work done?
Originally Posted by safariman
Got my newly rechambered 7mm MAshburn super back from JRH custom guns on Wed. Cleaned and polished the barrel to within an inch of its life with various cleaners and JB bore paste, then treated it with Dyna Ultra Bore coat that night and again on thursday afternoon. Moly'ed up some Nosler 120gr BT pills and loaded them ahead of 77grains (top end load for the 7mm WBY, which has less powder capacity) of R-22 and H4831SC and one grain at a time up to 84grns (starting load for the 7mmSTW, which has slightly more powder capacity) with each powder. My thinking being the 7mmWBY has less powder capactiy than my 7 Mash and the 7STW has slightly more so my true max should fall in between the two. On my way to the rife range now, with notebook, safety glasses and chronograph in hand, to find out if my methodology is correct and if so, just what my true top end is with this rifle and these powders using 120gr Moly'ed pills and a UBC treated, lapped custom barrel. Giving this rifle and cartridge its best possible opportunity to shine and be uberfast.
Once I have a top range somewhat established I will return and load three each of my Moly'ed 120gr TTSX's with the powder charges that looked and measured out to be near max with each powder charge and check for accuracy and confirm the speed and safety of those loads. After that, take the most promising load and play with seating depth a little to come up with this years deer hunting load.
After a long wait and much anticipation... Here we GO!!!!
I have re chambered a 300 Win MAg to a 300 WBY and did that one myself with a borrowed reamer, lots of cutting oil and a "T" handle. It shot great before and after with Orignal Barnes X 180's, Moly'ed. I just did a 7mm RemMAg custom MAuser from 7mm RemMAg to 7mm Mashburn Super and it is a really good shooter but I never shot it before as a 7mm Remington Magnum. I was afraid that if I took it and shot it as a commone SEVEN EM EM MAGGIE I would lose my rilfe looney card and or die form boredom at the shooting bench
How pathological does one have to be to claim "I don't know" who rechambered it when he did it himself?
Now, what are the odds that - like the Uberlanche - this one just magically gets sold to a mystery buyer in spite of all the red flags about the goods and the seller?
2) Why not glass bed a custom rifle? I glass bedded and free floated both a beautuful Al Beisen Riihimaki based custom 222 and my Len Brownell octagon barrelled 7mm MAshburn Super. If it helps the rifle shoot like it should, don't understand the hesitance here.
it makes it appear as if:
A) It is for sure a Len Brownell built rifle (which you don't know)
and
B) That Brownell is the one that chambered it for some screwed up version of a Mashburn. Which he didn't, you did, or someone in CA did or someone in NV or aliens.
Jim Rector in La Grande Oregon or Ed La Pour in Bremerton Washington would be my two picks for that project. Should come in at about $250.00 all done and ready to come home. Just thought of another good one, JAck Huntington of JRH custom Guns in Grass Valley Calif. He did some of the work on my Delta Elite and my Len Brownell 7mm Mashburn Super. I was more than pleased in both cases. Jim Rector did the barrel replacing and bluing on my benchrest 223 with a CM Lilja Barrel and it turned out wonderfully. He does a lot of work for Ross Seyfreid and that says a lot for him, as well.
He tells me that my 7mm Mashburn Super re chamber project went well and that the engraver did a nice job. JAck was one of fairly few gunsmiths who were willing to take on re chambering this rifle with its full length octagon barrel plus full length integral, machined on with the barrel rib. He will be hot bluing the whole thing so that even the re engraved part looks nice and sending me that one up shortly, again with merely a bill in the box. Great guy to talk to as well.
This is the same Jack Huntington that did a ton of that work on the DE for near nothing, repairing a busted up from stupid hot loads pistol to a very high grade. He did so, because he bought the "pitiful me" story hook, line, and sinker, and then watched as that work was used to justify the inflated sale of the DE without all the backstory.
He feels like a fool, and like he was taken. This is the story that repeats itself with most everyone that gets involved with "Safariman" Mark Claiborne.
OH MY NO! I am going to build a glass box around it and charge people to look at it <G>
Don't expect this rifle to look this nice if you ever see it in person a year or two from now. Ridin on a Rokon is kinda hard on 'em.
Thanks for the nice compliment, now you know why the 257WBY is headin your way. I wish that I could have afforded to keep them both, but such is no longer how my life works. NO complaints however and I sure hope this or any other of my posts never sound like one. I never thought I would ever have a rifle this nice and to manage to obtain it now, while not able to work and pretty darned sick is just amazing.
I guess this answers my question! He posted this yesterday about a pre 64 model 70.
Originally Posted by safariman
I want this rifle SO bad.... I am going to be looking at my cash flow really hard the next week or so as some of my incomes arrive in. If this is here in 7-10 days, and I receive what I am expecting this one will find a permanent home in Walla Walla.
I had one just like it and had to sell it when my Kidneys first went into total end stage renal failure and I miss it.
I'm wondering what the odds are of getting a refund after the three day inspection period if you don't like what you get.
Originally Posted by safariman
3 day inspect is included.
Anyone who follows this train wreck and still buys the rifle absolutely wants the petrified walrus cock(ing) he/she is going to get. Refunds will not be an option because, as we have seen before, the money will be long gone before the inspection period expires.
There should be a law against this crap. I pity the person that falls for this selling tactic. And you claim to: "LOVE God, LOVE your family, LOVE your country"
There should be a law against this crap. I pity the person that falls for this selling tactic. And you claim to: "LOVE God, LOVE your family, LOVE your country"
He's been fooling a lot of people for a long time.
This is the same Jack Huntington that did a ton of that work on the DE for near nothing, repairing a busted up from stupid hot loads pistol to a very high grade. He did so, because he bought the "pitiful me" story hook, line, and sinker, and then watched as that work was used to justify the inflated sale of the DE without all the backstory.
He feels like a fool, and like he was taken. This is the story that repeats itself with most everyone that gets involved with "Safariman" Mark Claiborne.
The smell test has been off on this guy for a longtime. I am shocked how many guys kept coming to this guys defense on post after post. I am sure sometime today he will come on and say he has sold or traded the rifle and had a ton of PM's with interest and we are all delusional.
I suggest you take a few steps back and post everything you know, and have posted on here, in one new add/ posting. You can not deny there is a lot of confusion mentioned in this add, and most seems pretty spot-on, unless you have 2 mashburns. Anyone even remotely interested in buying this gun deserve to have these issues cleared up, if you really want to sell it.
Good luck Mark, I hope you take my post not as a knock, but as a individual seeing a very confusing situation deserving being up-front about. And if you truly do not remember, this may not be a good " money-making" gun to sell to help your finances, as right now it isn't going to sell here.
There is enough evidence that I have read to say your add SEEMS to be in error? Clear this up, and you might find a buyer.
Allen
Good idea there. And I was told via PM where I might find the builders name or signature so I will look for that.
I suggest you take a few steps back and post everything you know, and have posted on here, in one new add/ posting. You can not deny there is a lot of confusion mentioned in this add, and most seems pretty spot-on, unless you have 2 mashburns. Anyone even remotely interested in buying this gun deserve to have these issues cleared up, if you really want to sell it.
Good luck Mark, I hope you take my post not as a knock, but as a individual seeing a very confusing situation deserving being up-front about. And if you truly do not remember, this may not be a good " money-making" gun to sell to help your finances, as right now it isn't going to sell here.
There is enough evidence that I have read to say your add SEEMS to be in error? Clear this up, and you might find a buyer.
Allen
Good idea there. And I was told via PM where I might find the builders name or signature so I will look for that.
The past:
Originally Posted by safariman
I hate to take the rifle apart but know it much come apart for the barrel to come off and for normal cleaning etc someday anyway so will separate the stock and action later today and look for makers marks or other signs of who made this thing. I do, of course, have good guns specific hollow ground screwdrivers etc but I am afraid of big 'ol stupid hand slipping. Got to get over that, I know. <G>
Originally Posted by safariman
BobinNH,
OK, I can't STAND it any longer I am taking the plunge! Removing the stock and barreled action from one another to look for markings! Pears requested....
Originally Posted by safariman
OK! I found a marking! First off the whole rifle has been glass bedded form stem to stern. Tang tip to forend tip so was a little tight and stiff getting apart.
The mark on the bottom of the barrel looks like a flaming capitol D or maybe a backwards E and a D together, sharing the same straigth line that makes the main straight part of both letters. Is this any kind of help or clue to anyone here? I sure do appreciate eveyones kind words and interest in this piece.
MARK
I hope that you do repost and clear up the massive amount of confusion on this rifle. You have posted many things in the past on man different threads that do not align with your current rendition.
Additionally, (though I didn't quote them) when you were showing off your new (to you) rifle, you were more than happy to oblige requests for more pics of the rifle (from numerous angles) and even of the cheekpiece for one member. Yet, when asked for current pics on this thread, you say they are not needed and the rifle is portrayed accurately, while acknowledging the rifle was in the care of a different owner for a couple years and has been hunted and dinged after your pictures were taken. Can't forget about you statement that the rifle will never look as pretty due to you hunting it hard on the Rokon...
Thus, I would recommend (as I suggested early on) that you post some current pictures of the rifle and clear up this mess that your own words have created.
Good luck with your sale and I hope you and your cousin are healing up.
The evidence has demonstrated that Mr. Claiborne committed multiple violations of insurance laws in connection with the sale of annuities. Most significantly, despite his knowledge of the requirement that he attempt to ascertain whether the sale of an annuity was not unsuitable, Mr. Claiborne, on at least three occasions, recommended the sale of annuities to elderly individuals without a meaningful assessment of their economic circumstances. With regard to Ms. Holmes, Mr. Claiborne recommended the sale of an annuity Page 28 of 30 Amended Proposed Order, Claiborne, Case No. INS 10-02-005 that resulted in an immediate loss of more than $2,000 and the potential for future lost interest payments. With regard to the Woods, Mr. Claiborne recommended the sale of an annuity despite having almost no information regarding the Woods‟s savings and investments. When Bankers Life questioned the suitability of the investment, Mr. Claiborne altered a form which Mr. Wood had previously signed as being accurate. When confronted about changes to the document, Mr. Claiborne gave conflicting and increasingly self-serving answers. With regard to the Holloway transaction, Mr. Claiborne recommended the sale of an annuity that he knew would be funded primarily through the surrender of a variable annuity and actively assisted Mr. Holloway in discussions with Prudential to secure the necessary forms needed to complete the transaction. Mr. Claiborne made this recommendation despite the fact he had never read the policy nor understood its unique and advantageous features for Mr. Holloway. Despite his knowledge, Mr. Claiborne falsely indicated on Mr. Holloway‟s application that he was not replacing an existing annuity, and did not plan on doing so. Mr. Claiborne offered no reasonable explanation for his conduct, but falsely asserted that he was not aware of Mr. Holloway‟s decision to surrender the Prudential annuity. The evidence also established that Mr. Claiborne made false statements, as well as an untimely response to the Division, including statements under oath, in an attempt to shield himself from liability for his conduct. His statements to investigators were often self-serving, contradictory, and contrary to all other available evidence. Given those false statements, the Division can have no assurance that Mr. Claiborne will fully cooperate with any future investigations that might arise. Mr. Claiborne has thus demonstrated a willingness to deceive other insurance companies, the Division, and most importantly, the consumers, to serve his own interests. Because the Division cannot rely on Mr. Claiborne to tell the truth, its ability to effectively regulate his conduct to protect consumers in the future will be severely restricted. Given the evidence in this matter, the ALJ concluded that the appropriate sanction is revocation. ORS 744.074(1) allows the Division to revoke Mr. Claiborne‟s license. The Division takes seriously its responsibility to protect the public from unscrupulous licensees. Mr. Claiborne‟s license has already been suspended once for similar misconduct. (Ex. A1.) Given his prior discipline and level of misconduct at issue here, the Division finds that the only appropriate sanction is the revocation2 of Mr. Claiborne‟s license.
I hope that you do repost and clear up the massive amount of confusion on this rifle. You have posted many things in the past on man different threads that do not align with your current rendition.
There's absolutely no confusion here. It's just another SM classified ad that is very intentionally misrepresenting a rifle in the hope that some poor schmuck comes along and buys it before the truth comes to light.
Mark simply needs to stop shilling his wares on this forum. Reposting the rifle will just create another train wreck in mere minutes.
The evidence also established that Mr. Claiborne made false statements, as well as an untimely response to the Division, including statements under oath, in an attempt to shield himself from liability for his conduct. His statements to investigators were often self-serving, contradictory, and contrary to all other available evidence. Given those false statements, the Division can have no assurance that Mr. Claiborne will fully cooperate with any future investigations that might arise. Mr. Claiborne has thus demonstrated a willingness to deceive other insurance companies, the Division, and most importantly, the consumers, to serve his own interests. Because the Division cannot rely on Mr. Claiborne to tell the truth, its ability to effectively regulate his conduct to protect consumers in the future will be severely restricted.
That bit is about the best summation of "safariman" Mark Claiborne going. He will willfully deceive, lie, cheat, and swindle in order to meet his own selfish ends and even when caught will concoct any manner of increasingly self-serving tales in order to avoid facing and admitting the truth. In short, he cannot tell the truth, he is untrustworthy, unscrupulous, and anyone that willfully deals with him is in severe jeopardy of getting screwed.
Those are simply facts, and to date he's not even tried to refute them. Why is simply because he knows that there are enough people that KNOW firsthand about him and his actions that any refutation will end up blowing up on him.
So, he runs and hides and tries to pull another scam whenever he thinks things have cooled off enough, or whenever he thinks he can play the "oh, I'm sick" card again.
It's gotten old, and it's just not working any more, and I suspect the folks who do know plenty about Mark have had just about enough and are about to drop some hammers on him if he keeps this schit up.
The evidence has demonstrated that Mr. Claiborne committed multiple violations of insurance laws in connection with the sale of annuities. Most significantly, despite his knowledge of the requirement that he attempt to ascertain whether the sale of an annuity was not unsuitable, Mr. Claiborne, on at least three occasions, recommended the sale of annuities to elderly individuals without a meaningful assessment of their economic circumstances. With regard to Ms. Holmes, Mr. Claiborne recommended the sale of an annuity Page 28 of 30 Amended Proposed Order, Claiborne, Case No. INS 10-02-005 that resulted in an immediate loss of more than $2,000 and the potential for future lost interest payments. With regard to the Woods, Mr. Claiborne recommended the sale of an annuity despite having almost no information regarding the Woods‟s savings and investments. When Bankers Life questioned the suitability of the investment, Mr. Claiborne altered a form which Mr. Wood had previously signed as being accurate. When confronted about changes to the document, Mr. Claiborne gave conflicting and increasingly self-serving answers. With regard to the Holloway transaction, Mr. Claiborne recommended the sale of an annuity that he knew would be funded primarily through the surrender of a variable annuity and actively assisted Mr. Holloway in discussions with Prudential to secure the necessary forms needed to complete the transaction. Mr. Claiborne made this recommendation despite the fact he had never read the policy nor understood its unique and advantageous features for Mr. Holloway. Despite his knowledge, Mr. Claiborne falsely indicated on Mr. Holloway‟s application that he was not replacing an existing annuity, and did not plan on doing so. Mr. Claiborne offered no reasonable explanation for his conduct, but falsely asserted that he was not aware of Mr. Holloway‟s decision to surrender the Prudential annuity. The evidence also established that Mr. Claiborne made false statements, as well as an untimely response to the Division, including statements under oath, in an attempt to shield himself from liability for his conduct. His statements to investigators were often self-serving, contradictory, and contrary to all other available evidence. Given those false statements, the Division can have no assurance that Mr. Claiborne will fully cooperate with any future investigations that might arise. Mr. Claiborne has thus demonstrated a willingness to deceive other insurance companies, the Division, and most importantly, the consumers, to serve his own interests. Because the Division cannot rely on Mr. Claiborne to tell the truth, its ability to effectively regulate his conduct to protect consumers in the future will be severely restricted. Given the evidence in this matter, the ALJ concluded that the appropriate sanction is revocation. ORS 744.074(1) allows the Division to revoke Mr. Claiborne‟s license. The Division takes seriously its responsibility to protect the public from unscrupulous licensees. Mr. Claiborne‟s license has already been suspended once for similar misconduct. (Ex. A1.) Given his prior discipline and level of misconduct at issue here, the Division finds that the only appropriate sanction is the revocation2 of Mr. Claiborne‟s license.
After reading this I am surprised that somebody hasn't either buried Safariman or left him laying in a ditch beaten within an inch of his life.
In the late 1980's a local insurance agent did something similar to the parents and grandparents of some pretty rough old boys.
A few months later they found him and his 17 year old son laying in a ditch as a result of being remodeled with a tire iron.
Last I heard about 15 years ago the crooked agent/dad was still in a rehab facility being fed intravenously because of the effects of the catastrophic brain damage.
The son still walks with a leg brace and is permanently disabled due to brain injuries.
No one has ever been found, arrested or charged for the beatings.
Thanks for all of the bump ups, gentleman. I just sold it to a member here.
Best,
Mark
PS: my hip shot on a sideways moving , barely (bear-ly?) quartering but mostly broadside bear 350 yards out was made with my 338/8mm RemMag, not this rifle. I did not calculate his forward movement and how far he would travel shuffling along at a good pace before my 225gr TTSX bullet would arrive that far out. A little bit of big bear fever and excitement got to me and I muffed the shot. I make clean kills most of the time.
I admit that I should have remembered that Jack Huntington did the work on this, I just did not have that info at the top of my still addled brain when asked. In my world the last few years have been an eternity of paiin and exhaustion and Dr appointments and med's and..... My memory ain't all that hot, yet. And actually, I should have waited until I was off of high doses of prednisone and many other drugs that mess with my brain in addition to supressing my immune system before posting any ad. I will wait a while before posting an ad for anything for sale, and try to get all of it right going in. I go off of several really nasty drugs and prednisone (the worst offender) in Mid July.
RE my insurance coverage. I have a medicare advantage plan that has a maximum out of pocket for Part A (hospital and surgical) of $6500... My Transplant bill is $181,000 PLUS anesthesia, lots of follow up visits with specialists. I will owe the maximum $6500 on that, easily.
Then one of my anti rejection meds is NOT COVERED by my Medicare part D coverage at all. Part B coverage pays some on it, but my co pay for the first dose was $1400. I have the reciept for my first dose.
If anyone here wants to post the photos of these bills and reciepts, I can e-mail or text them to you. But 4ager was and is DEAD WRONG on the bills part and I can prove it.
The sale of this rifle is a big help to us right now, and I am NOT asking for any charity as we will be OK with what we saved up before the surgery and this sale.
You're a known, proven liar and a con artist with a rap sheet of ripping off old people. You've screwed people here, repeatedly. You set up some shady damn safari stuff and run like Hell when questioned on it.
And, you know for a fact that there are people here who know a lot about your dealings that haven't even come to light yet. You're really damned close to having some of those folks just drop the hammer on you, and yet you continue as if you're an innocent and never done anything wrong.
You keep up with the "God has a plan for me; I just have to figure out what it is" line. Well, here's a thought: how about starting with being truthful, answering for your transgressions, admitting them, and changing your ways?
Just a friggin' hint, and it's likely to be the last one. I, for one, have had it.
Now, what are the odds that - like the Uberlanche - this one just magically gets sold to a mystery buyer in spite of all the red flags about the goods and the seller?
I'm very familiar with this rifle. Over 15 years ago, I bought it from my father but due to a nasty divorce in 2011, I had to sell off all my guns, this being one of the very last to go. When Mark bought it, I told him if he ever was looking at selling it, I wanted a chance to buy it back. After talking to Mark, he's agreed to sell it back to me for not too much over what he paid me for it.
I'm very familiar with this rifle. Over 15 years ago, I bought it from my father but due to a nasty divorce in 2011, I had to sell off all my guns, this being one of the very last to go. When Mark bought it, I told him if he ever was looking at selling it, I wanted a chance to buy it back. After talking to Mark, he's agreed to sell it back to me for not too much over what he paid me for it.
In short, I'll take the gun.
Congrats on getting the rifle back!
If you can answer, who was the smith that put it all together?
Thanks for all of the bump ups, gentleman. I just sold it to a member here.
Best,
Mark ... I admit that I should have remembered that Jack Huntington did the work on this, I just did not have that info at the top of my still addled brain when asked. In my world the last few years have been an eternity of paiin and exhaustion and Dr appointments and med's and..... My memory ain't all that hot, yet. And actually, I should have waited until I was off of high doses of prednisone and many other drugs that mess with my brain...
So sick. So broke. So not responsible for your actions--it's always someone/something else's fault. Always preying on the sympathy and goodheartedness in others.
NW Rancher and I have dealt before, as buyer and seller several times and he is a good guy. I did not remember the offer to let him buy it back, but as soon as he called I honored the statement even though I do not remember making it. Fact is, I do not remember a lot of stuff from my pre renal failure years nor even much from during them. Been a little bit busy staying alive.
Plenty of folks here deal with me regularly. A known member here who does quite a bit of selling here just mailed me something today I commited to buy, without payment arriving. I just sent him his USPS MO. There are dozens of folks here who deal with me in this fashion, compared to maybe 1/2 dozen who like to try to firebomb my threads. Most of these posts, I ignore and so do the people who really know me and have dealt with me. I had several PM inquiries about this rifle, but am genuinely glad that NW Rancher is getting this back. To his home is where it belongs.
What do you have to say about your false statements regarding my real and true incoming medical bills, sir?
Thanks for all of the bump ups, gentleman. I just sold it to a member here.
Best,
Mark ... I admit that I should have remembered that Jack Huntington did the work on this, I just did not have that info at the top of my still addled brain when asked. In my world the last few years have been an eternity of paiin and exhaustion and Dr appointments and med's and..... My memory ain't all that hot, yet. And actually, I should have waited until I was off of high doses of prednisone and many other drugs that mess with my brain...
So sick. So broke. So not responsible for your actions--it's always someone/something else's fault. Always preying on the sympathy and goodheartedness in others.
Just tellin it like it is, brother. Tis my reality since the Kidneys quit, and I can prove that stuff easily too.
As big of a arse as you have been, I hope that you never go through the chronic exhaustion and high pain that I have been dealing with since about 2007. Tried to keep working but could not safely go on several years back. And yes, it made me more broke than I had been in decades, and the meds and the pain DO mess with one's memory.
Your compassion is just oozing out of your posts. But what I have described is my reality. Getting better, fast though! Very excited about that, and being able to pay my bills when I get the final after insurance statements. I only have the initial amounts being billed for now. $181K plus
..............Just another bottom feeder. Working hard to be the biggest Scoundrel that he can be..........Their will be a payday Some day for this unmerciful conduct an skullduggery........ Redworm......
NW Rancher and I have dealt before, as buyer and seller several times and he is a good guy. I did not remember the offer to let him buy it back, but as soon as he called I honored the statement even though I do not remember making it. Fact is, I do not remember a lot of stuff from my pre renal failure years nor even much from during them. Been a little bit busy staying alive.
Plenty of folks here deal with me regularly. A known member here who does quite a bit of selling here just mailed me something today I commited to buy, without payment arriving. I just sent him his USPS MO. There are dozens of folks here who deal with me in this fashion, compared to maybe 1/2 dozen who like to try to firebomb my threads. Most of these posts, I ignore and so do the people who really know me and have dealt with me. I had several PM inquiries about this rifle, but am genuinely glad that NW Rancher is getting this back. To his home is where it belongs.
What do you have to say about your false statements regarding my real and true incoming medical bills, sir?
Aside from anecdotal heresay, you have provided no evidence to support your position thst 4Ager is wrong
If you can answer, who was the smith that put it all together?
Thanks in advance.[/quote]
Wish I knew who the smith was. My father bought it at an estate auction and the auctioneer reported that no paperwork could be found as it related to the rifle.
NW Rancher and I have dealt before, as buyer and seller several times and he is a good guy. I did not remember the offer to let him buy it back, but as soon as he called I honored the statement even though I do not remember making it. Fact is, I do not remember a lot of stuff from my pre renal failure years nor even much from during them. Been a little bit busy staying alive.
Plenty of folks here deal with me regularly. A known member here who does quite a bit of selling here just mailed me something today I commited to buy, without payment arriving. I just sent him his USPS MO. There are dozens of folks here who deal with me in this fashion, compared to maybe 1/2 dozen who like to try to firebomb my threads. Most of these posts, I ignore and so do the people who really know me and have dealt with me. I had several PM inquiries about this rifle, but am genuinely glad that NW Rancher is getting this back. To his home is where it belongs.
What do you have to say about your false statements regarding my real and true incoming medical bills, sir?
Aside from anecdotal heresay, you have provided no evidence to support your position thst 4Ager is wrong
I have offered to send photos of the bill, reciept for $1400 pill bill, and my insurance statement to anyone who wishes to see any of them. I may try to post them here, but the rifle is sold and like I said I have about 10 times as many folks who consider me a favored trading partner than the persistent and loud few who like to firebomb my threads.
If you can answer, who was the smith that put it all together?
Thanks in advance.[/quote]
Wish I knew who the smith was. My father bought it at an estate auction and the auctioneer reported that no paperwork could be found as it related to the rifle. [/quote]
Roger. Thanks for the reply. Enjoy the rifle once again.
If you can answer, who was the smith that put it all together?
Thanks in advance.[/quote]
Wish I knew who the smith was. My father bought it at an estate auction and the auctioneer reported that no paperwork could be found as it related to the rifle. [/quote]
Steve, another custom rifle fan who has a rifle MUCH like this one said to look under the buttplate for a signature etc. We can do that when you come pick up the rifle. But I sure would not spend much energy or time on this bunch. They are not the real campfire folks. There are some 60,000 members and a few negative thread bombers who seem to not have much of a life otherwise.
I used to try to parry and counter with them, but as I became more ill and realized that they outnumbered me, making it hard to get my points accross and that they would not ever be satisfied with the truth I just started to ignore them. Works better and my BP stays nice and low as a side benefit. LOTS of good guys here, ignore the cowardly thread bombers.
I wouldn't buy the last known glass of water from you.
Fine, but you are very much in the minority here. And wrong. I have had many, many deals (maybe hundreds over a ten year period) go very well with much happiness on both sides of the equation. Suit yourself.
NW Rancher and I have dealt before, as buyer and seller several times and he is a good guy. I did not remember the offer to let him buy it back, but as soon as he called I honored the statement even though I do not remember making it. Fact is, I do not remember a lot of stuff from my pre renal failure years nor even much from during them. Been a little bit busy staying alive.
Plenty of folks here deal with me regularly. A known member here who does quite a bit of selling here just mailed me something today I commited to buy, without payment arriving. I just sent him his USPS MO. There are dozens of folks here who deal with me in this fashion, compared to maybe 1/2 dozen who like to try to firebomb my threads. Most of these posts, I ignore and so do the people who really know me and have dealt with me. I had several PM inquiries about this rifle, but am genuinely glad that NW Rancher is getting this back. To his home is where it belongs.
What do you have to say about your false statements regarding my real and true incoming medical bills, sir?
You want to talk false statements, Mark? Really? Fine. Let's talk false statements.
As to your bills: prove it. By doing so, you'll prove your own words about the entire procedure being fully covered for you and your cousin false, in addition to other things about that whole fiasco.
As for "dealing with you", I've got more experience "dealing with you" than anyone on this site other than your wife, and I'm just damned sick of it. So, let's talk false statements, Mark.
Let's talk about the false statements I have PERSONALLY seen and heard you make to prospective clients about insurance policies; misleading and intentionally false statements about how they worked (especially annuities), and whether they were the right fit. Let's talk about the false statements you tried to make in my presence, with MY LICENSE on the line, about securities that prospective clients held that you were never licensed to discuss in the first place.
The Oregon Insurance Bureau got it dead right; you scammed and conned old people regularly by lying to them, lying to the ridiculously schitty company you worked for, and lying to regulators. I know this, because I saw and heard you do it, and I tried repeatedly to get you to NOT do that. Unlike you, every deal I made with a client had to be completely vetted by me and by THREE other licensed financial advisers, none of whom you ever met and all of whom had their licenses on the line with every transaction. They had to be right, and I made sure of it. I have copies of every damned deal I ever did, as do they, and I handed all of those clients off to another licensed broker when I left that business, and they checked then to make sure that everything was kosher. You never did anything like that, because you couldn't. Go ahead and try to impugn that I was doing the same schit. You can try, but you know damned well it will be a lie and that I have the docs to prove it.
Now, let's talk about the false statements you've made in trying to (and sometimes succeeding in) getting people to send you firearms via the mail to your PO Box claiming that your C&R license was an 01 FFL. I've SEEN YOU do that, and there are several here that you tried to run that on.
While we are at it, let's talk about the Campfire Pig Hunt you went on that you tried to turn into your own gunshow; trying to trade into and out of guns that you didn't even own so you could turn a profit while the rest of the guys were there. There were SEVERAL people there that are still here that will attest to that. Hell, rattler won't even mention you by name after the schit you pulled there. Neither will ScottF for a myriad of reasons.
Let's keep going, shall we? Let's talk about the safari business you ran and what a schitshow that turned into and how you conveniently disappear whenever anyone asks about that, what you knew and when, and any type of compensation made to the guys that got screwed there.
Let's talk about the false statements you made to ME, PERSONALLY, regarding tax situations; i.e., the fact that you TWICE provided me and my accountant with false Tax ID numbers when I 1099'd you for services contracted during the few months that I was flying out to Washington, Oregon, and Idaho to try to establish a financial services business out there with your old clients. Let's talk about the fact that had my accountant not been on the ball about that, TWICE, that you would have managed to stick me with the tax bill for money paid to you, and that the IRS STILL doesn't have that filed under your name properly. And, yes, I have those documents, too.
You want to talk false statements, Mark? Great. Start with those. And, yes, I can back up every damn thing I just wrote and you know it.
I gave you every chance to correct your ways. I warned you about the firearms business you were running here without an FFL (and that only worked because you realized that the Feds were about to knock on your door). I have tried to hint at you changing you ways for long enough. You ran out of rope, and I've had it.
You want to know what God wants from you after giving you another chance at life, and you want to talk about false statements? Start there, Mark.
I wouldn't buy the last known glass of water from you.
Fine, but you are very much in the minority here. And wrong. I have had many, many deals (maybe hundreds over a ten year period) go very well with much happiness on both sides of the equation. Suit yourself.
I judge a man by how he handles things when they go bad, not by how he handles the good.
NW Rancher and I have dealt before, as buyer and seller several times and he is a good guy. I did not remember the offer to let him buy it back, but as soon as he called I honored the statement even though I do not remember making it. Fact is, I do not remember a lot of stuff from my pre renal failure years nor even much from during them. Been a little bit busy staying alive.
Plenty of folks here deal with me regularly. A known member here who does quite a bit of selling here just mailed me something today I commited to buy, without payment arriving. I just sent him his USPS MO. There are dozens of folks here who deal with me in this fashion, compared to maybe 1/2 dozen who like to try to firebomb my threads. Most of these posts, I ignore and so do the people who really know me and have dealt with me. I had several PM inquiries about this rifle, but am genuinely glad that NW Rancher is getting this back. To his home is where it belongs.
What do you have to say about your false statements regarding my real and true incoming medical bills, sir?
You want to talk false statements, Mark? Really? Fine. Let's talk false statements.
As to your bills: prove it. By doing so, you'll prove your own words about the entire procedure being fully covered for you and your cousin false, in addition to other things about that whole fiasco.
As for "dealing with you", I've got more experience "dealing with you" than anyone on this site other than your wife, and I'm just damned sick of it. So, let's talk false statements, Mark.
Let's talk about the false statements I have PERSONALLY seen and heard you make to prospective clients about insurance policies; misleading and intentionally false statements about how they worked (especially annuities), and whether they were the right fit. Let's talk about the false statements you tried to make in my presence, with MY LICENSE on the line, about securities that prospective clients held that you were never licensed to discuss in the first place.
The Oregon Insurance Bureau got it dead right; you scammed and conned old people regularly by lying to them, lying to the ridiculously schitty company you worked for, and lying to regulators. I know this, because I saw and heard you do it, and I tried repeatedly to get you to NOT do that. Unlike you, every deal I made with a client had to be completely vetted by me and by THREE other licensed financial advisers, none of whom you ever met and all of whom had their licenses on the line with every transaction. They had to be right, and I made sure of it. I have copies of every damned deal I ever did, as do they, and I handed all of those clients off to another licensed broker when I left that business, and they checked then to make sure that everything was kosher. You never did anything like that, because you couldn't. Go ahead and try to impugn that I was doing the same schit. You can try, but you know damned well it will be a lie and that I have the docs to prove it.
Now, let's talk about the false statements you've made in trying to (and sometimes succeeding in) getting people to send you firearms via the mail to your PO Box claiming that your C&R license was an 01 FFL. I've SEEN YOU do that, and there are several here that you tried to run that on.
While we are at it, let's talk about the Campfire Pig Hunt you went on that you tried to turn into your own gunshow; trying to trade into and out of guns that you didn't even own so you could turn a profit while the rest of the guys were there. There were SEVERAL people there that are still here that will attest to that. Hell, rattler won't even mention you by name after the schit you pulled there. Neither will ScottF for a myriad of reasons.
Let's keep going, shall we? Let's talk about the safari business you ran and what a schitshow that turned into and how you conveniently disappear whenever anyone asks about that, what you knew and when, and any type of compensation made to the guys that got screwed there.
Let's talk about the false statements you made to ME, PERSONALLY, regarding tax situations; i.e., the fact that you TWICE provided me and my accountant with false Tax ID numbers when I 1099'd you for services contracted during the few months that I was flying out to Washington, Oregon, and Idaho to try to establish a financial services business out there with your old clients. Let's talk about the fact that had my accountant not been on the ball about that, TWICE, that you would have managed to stick me with the tax bill for money paid to you, and that the IRS STILL doesn't have that filed under your name properly. And, yes, I have those documents, too.
You want to talk false statements, Mark? Great. Start with those. And, yes, I can back up every damn thing I just wrote and you know it.
I gave you every chance to correct your ways. I warned you about the firearms business you were running here without an FFL (and that only worked because you realized that the Feds were about to knock on your door). I have tried to hint at you changing you ways for long enough. You ran out of rope, and I've had it.
You want to know what God wants from you after giving you another chance at life, and you want to talk about false statements? Start there, Mark.
-Sean
Oops...I didn't see that coming. Seems there are a lot of questions to be asked about many of those topics. Where to even begin??
NW Rancher and I have dealt before, as buyer and seller several times and he is a good guy. I did not remember the offer to let him buy it back, but as soon as he called I honored the statement even though I do not remember making it. Fact is, I do not remember a lot of stuff from my pre renal failure years nor even much from during them. Been a little bit busy staying alive.
Plenty of folks here deal with me regularly. A known member here who does quite a bit of selling here just mailed me something today I commited to buy, without payment arriving. I just sent him his USPS MO. There are dozens of folks here who deal with me in this fashion, compared to maybe 1/2 dozen who like to try to firebomb my threads. Most of these posts, I ignore and so do the people who really know me and have dealt with me. I had several PM inquiries about this rifle, but am genuinely glad that NW Rancher is getting this back. To his home is where it belongs.
What do you have to say about your false statements regarding my real and true incoming medical bills, sir?
Aside from anecdotal heresay, you have provided no evidence to support your position thst 4Ager is wrong
I have offered to send photos of the bill, reciept for $1400 pill bill, and my insurance statement to anyone who wishes to see any of them. I may try to post them here, but the rifle is sold and like I said I have about 10 times as many folks who consider me a favored trading partner than the persistent and loud few who like to firebomb my threads.
You offer alot but I have yet to see you follow through with posting any of it.
NW Rancher and I have dealt before, as buyer and seller several times and he is a good guy. I did not remember the offer to let him buy it back, but as soon as he called I honored the statement even though I do not remember making it. Fact is, I do not remember a lot of stuff from my pre renal failure years nor even much from during them. Been a little bit busy staying alive.
Plenty of folks here deal with me regularly. A known member here who does quite a bit of selling here just mailed me something today I commited to buy, without payment arriving. I just sent him his USPS MO. There are dozens of folks here who deal with me in this fashion, compared to maybe 1/2 dozen who like to try to firebomb my threads. Most of these posts, I ignore and so do the people who really know me and have dealt with me. I had several PM inquiries about this rifle, but am genuinely glad that NW Rancher is getting this back. To his home is where it belongs.
What do you have to say about your false statements regarding my real and true incoming medical bills, sir?
You want to talk false statements, Mark? Really? Fine. Let's talk false statements.
As to your bills: prove it. By doing so, you'll prove your own words about the entire procedure being fully covered for you and your cousin false, in addition to other things about that whole fiasco.
As for "dealing with you", I've got more experience "dealing with you" than anyone on this site other than your wife, and I'm just damned sick of it. So, let's talk false statements, Mark.
Let's talk about the false statements I have PERSONALLY seen and heard you make to prospective clients about insurance policies; misleading and intentionally false statements about how they worked (especially annuities), and whether they were the right fit. Let's talk about the false statements you tried to make in my presence, with MY LICENSE on the line, about securities that prospective clients held that you were never licensed to discuss in the first place.
The Oregon Insurance Bureau got it dead right; you scammed and conned old people regularly by lying to them, lying to the ridiculously schitty company you worked for, and lying to regulators. I know this, because I saw and heard you do it, and I tried repeatedly to get you to NOT do that. Unlike you, every deal I made with a client had to be completely vetted by me and by THREE other licensed financial advisers, none of whom you ever met and all of whom had their licenses on the line with every transaction. They had to be right, and I made sure of it. I have copies of every damned deal I ever did, as do they, and I handed all of those clients off to another licensed broker when I left that business, and they checked then to make sure that everything was kosher. You never did anything like that, because you couldn't. Go ahead and try to impugn that I was doing the same schit. You can try, but you know damned well it will be a lie and that I have the docs to prove it.
Now, let's talk about the false statements you've made in trying to (and sometimes succeeding in) getting people to send you firearms via the mail to your PO Box claiming that your C&R license was an 01 FFL. I've SEEN YOU do that, and there are several here that you tried to run that on.
While we are at it, let's talk about the Campfire Pig Hunt you went on that you tried to turn into your own gunshow; trying to trade into and out of guns that you didn't even own so you could turn a profit while the rest of the guys were there. There were SEVERAL people there that are still here that will attest to that. Hell, rattler won't even mention you by name after the schit you pulled there. Neither will ScottF for a myriad of reasons.
Let's keep going, shall we? Let's talk about the safari business you ran and what a schitshow that turned into and how you conveniently disappear whenever anyone asks about that, what you knew and when, and any type of compensation made to the guys that got screwed there.
Let's talk about the false statements you made to ME, PERSONALLY, regarding tax situations; i.e., the fact that you TWICE provided me and my accountant with false Tax ID numbers when I 1099'd you for services contracted during the few months that I was flying out to Washington, Oregon, and Idaho to try to establish a financial services business out there with your old clients. Let's talk about the fact that had my accountant not been on the ball about that, TWICE, that you would have managed to stick me with the tax bill for money paid to you, and that the IRS STILL doesn't have that filed under your name properly. And, yes, I have those documents, too.
You want to talk false statements, Mark? Great. Start with those. And, yes, I can back up every damn thing I just wrote and you know it.
I gave you every chance to correct your ways. I warned you about the firearms business you were running here without an FFL (and that only worked because you realized that the Feds were about to knock on your door). I have tried to hint at you changing you ways for long enough. You ran out of rope, and I've had it.
You want to know what God wants from you after giving you another chance at life, and you want to talk about false statements? Start there, Mark.
NW Rancher and I have dealt before, as buyer and seller several times and he is a good guy. I did not remember the offer to let him buy it back, but as soon as he called I honored the statement even though I do not remember making it. Fact is, I do not remember a lot of stuff from my pre renal failure years nor even much from during them. Been a little bit busy staying alive.
Plenty of folks here deal with me regularly. A known member here who does quite a bit of selling here just mailed me something today I commited to buy, without payment arriving. I just sent him his USPS MO. There are dozens of folks here who deal with me in this fashion, compared to maybe 1/2 dozen who like to try to firebomb my threads. Most of these posts, I ignore and so do the people who really know me and have dealt with me. I had several PM inquiries about this rifle, but am genuinely glad that NW Rancher is getting this back. To his home is where it belongs.
What do you have to say about your false statements regarding my real and true incoming medical bills, sir?
Aside from anecdotal heresay, you have provided no evidence to support your position thst 4Ager is wrong
I have offered to send photos of the bill, reciept for $1400 pill bill, and my insurance statement to anyone who wishes to see any of them. I may try to post them here, but the rifle is sold and like I said I have about 10 times as many folks who consider me a favored trading partner than the persistent and loud few who like to firebomb my threads.
You offer alot but I have yet to see you follow through with posting any of it.
NW Rancher and I have dealt before, as buyer and seller several times and he is a good guy. I did not remember the offer to let him buy it back, but as soon as he called I honored the statement even though I do not remember making it. Fact is, I do not remember a lot of stuff from my pre renal failure years nor even much from during them. Been a little bit busy staying alive.
Plenty of folks here deal with me regularly. A known member here who does quite a bit of selling here just mailed me something today I commited to buy, without payment arriving. I just sent him his USPS MO. There are dozens of folks here who deal with me in this fashion, compared to maybe 1/2 dozen who like to try to firebomb my threads. Most of these posts, I ignore and so do the people who really know me and have dealt with me. I had several PM inquiries about this rifle, but am genuinely glad that NW Rancher is getting this back. To his home is where it belongs.
What do you have to say about your false statements regarding my real and true incoming medical bills, sir?
You want to talk false statements, Mark? Really? Fine. Let's talk false statements.
As to your bills: prove it. By doing so, you'll prove your own words about the entire procedure being fully covered for you and your cousin false, in addition to other things about that whole fiasco.
As for "dealing with you", I've got more experience "dealing with you" than anyone on this site other than your wife, and I'm just damned sick of it. So, let's talk false statements, Mark.
Let's talk about the false statements I have PERSONALLY seen and heard you make to prospective clients about insurance policies; misleading and intentionally false statements about how they worked (especially annuities), and whether they were the right fit. Let's talk about the false statements you tried to make in my presence, with MY LICENSE on the line, about securities that prospective clients held that you were never licensed to discuss in the first place.
The Oregon Insurance Bureau got it dead right; you scammed and conned old people regularly by lying to them, lying to the ridiculously schitty company you worked for, and lying to regulators. I know this, because I saw and heard you do it, and I tried repeatedly to get you to NOT do that. Unlike you, every deal I made with a client had to be completely vetted by me and by THREE other licensed financial advisers, none of whom you ever met and all of whom had their licenses on the line with every transaction. They had to be right, and I made sure of it. I have copies of every damned deal I ever did, as do they, and I handed all of those clients off to another licensed broker when I left that business, and they checked then to make sure that everything was kosher. You never did anything like that, because you couldn't. Go ahead and try to impugn that I was doing the same schit. You can try, but you know damned well it will be a lie and that I have the docs to prove it.
Now, let's talk about the false statements you've made in trying to (and sometimes succeeding in) getting people to send you firearms via the mail to your PO Box claiming that your C&R license was an 01 FFL. I've SEEN YOU do that, and there are several here that you tried to run that on.
While we are at it, let's talk about the Campfire Pig Hunt you went on that you tried to turn into your own gunshow; trying to trade into and out of guns that you didn't even own so you could turn a profit while the rest of the guys were there. There were SEVERAL people there that are still here that will attest to that. Hell, rattler won't even mention you by name after the schit you pulled there. Neither will ScottF for a myriad of reasons.
Let's keep going, shall we? Let's talk about the safari business you ran and what a schitshow that turned into and how you conveniently disappear whenever anyone asks about that, what you knew and when, and any type of compensation made to the guys that got screwed there.
Let's talk about the false statements you made to ME, PERSONALLY, regarding tax situations; i.e., the fact that you TWICE provided me and my accountant with false Tax ID numbers when I 1099'd you for services contracted during the few months that I was flying out to Washington, Oregon, and Idaho to try to establish a financial services business out there with your old clients. Let's talk about the fact that had my accountant not been on the ball about that, TWICE, that you would have managed to stick me with the tax bill for money paid to you, and that the IRS STILL doesn't have that filed under your name properly. And, yes, I have those documents, too.
You want to talk false statements, Mark? Great. Start with those. And, yes, I can back up every damn thing I just wrote and you know it.
I gave you every chance to correct your ways. I warned you about the firearms business you were running here without an FFL (and that only worked because you realized that the Feds were about to knock on your door). I have tried to hint at you changing you ways for long enough. You ran out of rope, and I've had it.
You want to know what God wants from you after giving you another chance at life, and you want to talk about false statements? Start there, Mark.
...LOTS of good guys here, ignore the cowardly thread bombers.
Guess he's off somewhere pretending this was all fabricated by a few of us cowardly thread bombers.
If a known sex offender moved in next door, would you notify the neighbors only after their daughter doesn't come home from school? Would you stand by and watch your friends be cheated by a career con man?
asphalt angel isnt a sock puppet, it is his wife.....she was talking about making an account after the hog hunt in 2013 and the writing sounds like her....
hard for him to say it was fabricated its well known by bout anyone that knows Mark that he and Sean worked together, he boasted about it often.....also equally well known by those of us that also know Sean that he was not happy with what Mark did....Mark has just been to dense to realize 4ager is Sean though how he missed it i dont know as Sean hasnt kept it that much of a secret.....
asphalt angel isnt a sock puppet, it is his wife.....she was talking about making an account after the hog hunt in 2013 and the writing sounds like her....
hard for him to say it was fabricated its well known by bout anyone that knows Mark that he and Sean worked together, he boasted about it often.....also equally well known by those of us that also know Sean that he was not happy with what Mark did....Mark has just been to dense to realize 4ager is Sean though how he missed it i dont know as Sean hasnt kept it that much of a secret.....
Who needs daytime soap operas when you have 24HCF!!
NW Rancher and I have dealt before, as buyer and seller several times and he is a good guy. I did not remember the offer to let him buy it back, but as soon as he called I honored the statement even though I do not remember making it. Fact is, I do not remember a lot of stuff from my pre renal failure years nor even much from during them. Been a little bit busy staying alive.
Plenty of folks here deal with me regularly. A known member here who does quite a bit of selling here just mailed me something today I commited to buy, without payment arriving. I just sent him his USPS MO. There are dozens of folks here who deal with me in this fashion, compared to maybe 1/2 dozen who like to try to firebomb my threads. Most of these posts, I ignore and so do the people who really know me and have dealt with me. I had several PM inquiries about this rifle, but am genuinely glad that NW Rancher is getting this back. To his home is where it belongs.
What do you have to say about your false statements regarding my real and true incoming medical bills, sir?
You want to talk false statements, Mark? Really? Fine. Let's talk false statements.
As to your bills: prove it. By doing so, you'll prove your own words about the entire procedure being fully covered for you and your cousin false, in addition to other things about that whole fiasco.
As for "dealing with you", I've got more experience "dealing with you" than anyone on this site other than your wife, and I'm just damned sick of it. So, let's talk false statements, Mark.
Let's talk about the false statements I have PERSONALLY seen and heard you make to prospective clients about insurance policies; misleading and intentionally false statements about how they worked (especially annuities), and whether they were the right fit. Let's talk about the false statements you tried to make in my presence, with MY LICENSE on the line, about securities that prospective clients held that you were never licensed to discuss in the first place.
The Oregon Insurance Bureau got it dead right; you scammed and conned old people regularly by lying to them, lying to the ridiculously schitty company you worked for, and lying to regulators. I know this, because I saw and heard you do it, and I tried repeatedly to get you to NOT do that. Unlike you, every deal I made with a client had to be completely vetted by me and by THREE other licensed financial advisers, none of whom you ever met and all of whom had their licenses on the line with every transaction. They had to be right, and I made sure of it. I have copies of every damned deal I ever did, as do they, and I handed all of those clients off to another licensed broker when I left that business, and they checked then to make sure that everything was kosher. You never did anything like that, because you couldn't. Go ahead and try to impugn that I was doing the same schit. You can try, but you know damned well it will be a lie and that I have the docs to prove it.
Now, let's talk about the false statements you've made in trying to (and sometimes succeeding in) getting people to send you firearms via the mail to your PO Box claiming that your C&R license was an 01 FFL. I've SEEN YOU do that, and there are several here that you tried to run that on.
While we are at it, let's talk about the Campfire Pig Hunt you went on that you tried to turn into your own gunshow; trying to trade into and out of guns that you didn't even own so you could turn a profit while the rest of the guys were there. There were SEVERAL people there that are still here that will attest to that. Hell, rattler won't even mention you by name after the schit you pulled there. Neither will ScottF for a myriad of reasons.
Let's keep going, shall we? Let's talk about the safari business you ran and what a schitshow that turned into and how you conveniently disappear whenever anyone asks about that, what you knew and when, and any type of compensation made to the guys that got screwed there.
Let's talk about the false statements you made to ME, PERSONALLY, regarding tax situations; i.e., the fact that you TWICE provided me and my accountant with false Tax ID numbers when I 1099'd you for services contracted during the few months that I was flying out to Washington, Oregon, and Idaho to try to establish a financial services business out there with your old clients. Let's talk about the fact that had my accountant not been on the ball about that, TWICE, that you would have managed to stick me with the tax bill for money paid to you, and that the IRS STILL doesn't have that filed under your name properly. And, yes, I have those documents, too.
You want to talk false statements, Mark? Great. Start with those. And, yes, I can back up every damn thing I just wrote and you know it.
I gave you every chance to correct your ways. I warned you about the firearms business you were running here without an FFL (and that only worked because you realized that the Feds were about to knock on your door). I have tried to hint at you changing you ways for long enough. You ran out of rope, and I've had it.
You want to know what God wants from you after giving you another chance at life, and you want to talk about false statements? Start there, Mark.
-Sean
Well hello SEAN!
I still consider you a friend, and as such I am going to take your suggestion at the end of your comments quite seriously. I will be away from the 'fire for a while while I weigh all of this.And yes, I will be praying that God will, as the prophet said "Search me oh God, and see if there be any wicked way in me." I have been having this conversation with others as I prepare to embark on life, part two. Also the words here of Rick Menefee (Mark, do you see what you are doing here?") and a couple of others here.
There is an old saying "If one man calls you an ass, you can disregard it, if two or more do, start shopping for a saddle"
Then in the book of proverbs we are called fools if we disregard the council of a friend. I do not want to be a fool, or to be any longer seen as one who would be dishonest.
This stuff has to be fixed, and now.
I will be away from the campfire for some time, except to communicate with folks who I have deals pending with in PM's only.
I do not expect any one here to give me any room or credence to any of this, I will have to prove it. And, it will take time and experiences for you all to see. But I am going to work at this and seek wise council and input.
I am not angry, or mad, more contemplating than anything else.
I do have an awesome and amazing second chance at life here, got to do it right.
See ya'll a bit later. PM's welcome but I won't be posting for a while.
Plenty of folks here deal with me regularly. A known member here who does quite a bit of selling here just mailed me something today I commited to buy, without payment arriving. I just sent him his USPS MO. There are dozens of folks here who deal with me in this fashion, compared to maybe 1/2 dozen who like to try to firebomb my threads. Most of these posts, I ignore and so do the people who really know me and have dealt with me. I had several PM inquiries about this rifle, but am genuinely glad that NW Rancher is getting this back. To his home is where it belongs.
What do you have to say about your false statements regarding my real and true incoming medical bills, sir?
Why are you buying chit when you have a chitload of medical bills coming in?
Your chit never makes sense...
...like the 50 emails about my ATV a few years ago.
NW Rancher and I have dealt before, as buyer and seller several times and he is a good guy. I did not remember the offer to let him buy it back, but as soon as he called I honored the statement even though I do not remember making it. Fact is, I do not remember a lot of stuff from my pre renal failure years nor even much from during them. Been a little bit busy staying alive.
Plenty of folks here deal with me regularly. A known member here who does quite a bit of selling here just mailed me something today I commited to buy, without payment arriving. I just sent him his USPS MO. There are dozens of folks here who deal with me in this fashion, compared to maybe 1/2 dozen who like to try to firebomb my threads. Most of these posts, I ignore and so do the people who really know me and have dealt with me. I had several PM inquiries about this rifle, but am genuinely glad that NW Rancher is getting this back. To his home is where it belongs.
What do you have to say about your false statements regarding my real and true incoming medical bills, sir?
You want to talk false statements, Mark? Really? Fine. Let's talk false statements.
As to your bills: prove it. By doing so, you'll prove your own words about the entire procedure being fully covered for you and your cousin false, in addition to other things about that whole fiasco.
As for "dealing with you", I've got more experience "dealing with you" than anyone on this site other than your wife, and I'm just damned sick of it. So, let's talk false statements, Mark.
Let's talk about the false statements I have PERSONALLY seen and heard you make to prospective clients about insurance policies; misleading and intentionally false statements about how they worked (especially annuities), and whether they were the right fit. Let's talk about the false statements you tried to make in my presence, with MY LICENSE on the line, about securities that prospective clients held that you were never licensed to discuss in the first place.
The Oregon Insurance Bureau got it dead right; you scammed and conned old people regularly by lying to them, lying to the ridiculously schitty company you worked for, and lying to regulators. I know this, because I saw and heard you do it, and I tried repeatedly to get you to NOT do that. Unlike you, every deal I made with a client had to be completely vetted by me and by THREE other licensed financial advisers, none of whom you ever met and all of whom had their licenses on the line with every transaction. They had to be right, and I made sure of it. I have copies of every damned deal I ever did, as do they, and I handed all of those clients off to another licensed broker when I left that business, and they checked then to make sure that everything was kosher. You never did anything like that, because you couldn't. Go ahead and try to impugn that I was doing the same schit. You can try, but you know damned well it will be a lie and that I have the docs to prove it.
Now, let's talk about the false statements you've made in trying to (and sometimes succeeding in) getting people to send you firearms via the mail to your PO Box claiming that your C&R license was an 01 FFL. I've SEEN YOU do that, and there are several here that you tried to run that on.
While we are at it, let's talk about the Campfire Pig Hunt you went on that you tried to turn into your own gunshow; trying to trade into and out of guns that you didn't even own so you could turn a profit while the rest of the guys were there. There were SEVERAL people there that are still here that will attest to that. Hell, rattler won't even mention you by name after the schit you pulled there. Neither will ScottF for a myriad of reasons.
Let's keep going, shall we? Let's talk about the safari business you ran and what a schitshow that turned into and how you conveniently disappear whenever anyone asks about that, what you knew and when, and any type of compensation made to the guys that got screwed there.
Let's talk about the false statements you made to ME, PERSONALLY, regarding tax situations; i.e., the fact that you TWICE provided me and my accountant with false Tax ID numbers when I 1099'd you for services contracted during the few months that I was flying out to Washington, Oregon, and Idaho to try to establish a financial services business out there with your old clients. Let's talk about the fact that had my accountant not been on the ball about that, TWICE, that you would have managed to stick me with the tax bill for money paid to you, and that the IRS STILL doesn't have that filed under your name properly. And, yes, I have those documents, too.
You want to talk false statements, Mark? Great. Start with those. And, yes, I can back up every damn thing I just wrote and you know it.
I gave you every chance to correct your ways. I warned you about the firearms business you were running here without an FFL (and that only worked because you realized that the Feds were about to knock on your door). I have tried to hint at you changing you ways for long enough. You ran out of rope, and I've had it.
You want to know what God wants from you after giving you another chance at life, and you want to talk about false statements? Start there, Mark.
-Sean
Well hello SEAN!
I still consider you a friend, and as such I am going to take your suggestion at the end of your comments quite seriously. I will be away from the 'fire for a while while I weigh all of this.And yes, I will be praying that God will, as the prophet said "Search me oh God, and see if there be any wicked way in me." I have been having this conversation with others as I prepare to embark on life, part two. Also the words here of Rick Menefee (Mark, do you see what you are doing here?") and a couple of others here.
There is an old saying "If one man calls you an ass, you can disregard it, if two or more do, start shopping for a saddle"
Then in the book of proverbs we are called fools if we disregard the council of a friend. I do not want to be a fool, or to be any longer seen as one who would be dishonest.
This stuff has to be fixed, and now.
I will be away from the campfire for some time, except to communicate with folks who I have deals pending with in PM's only.
I do not expect any one here to give me any room or credence to any of this, I will have to prove it. And, it will take time and experiences for you all to see. But I am going to work at this and seek wise council and input.
I am not angry, or mad, more contemplating than anything else.
I do have an awesome and amazing second chance at life here, got to do it right.
See ya'll a bit later. PM's welcome but I won't be posting for a while.
NW Rancher and I have dealt before, as buyer and seller several times and he is a good guy. I did not remember the offer to let him buy it back, but as soon as he called I honored the statement even though I do not remember making it. Fact is, I do not remember a lot of stuff from my pre renal failure years nor even much from during them. Been a little bit busy staying alive.
Plenty of folks here deal with me regularly. A known member here who does quite a bit of selling here just mailed me something today I commited to buy, without payment arriving. I just sent him his USPS MO. There are dozens of folks here who deal with me in this fashion, compared to maybe 1/2 dozen who like to try to firebomb my threads. Most of these posts, I ignore and so do the people who really know me and have dealt with me. I had several PM inquiries about this rifle, but am genuinely glad that NW Rancher is getting this back. To his home is where it belongs.
What do you have to say about your false statements regarding my real and true incoming medical bills, sir?
You want to talk false statements, Mark? Really? Fine. Let's talk false statements.
As to your bills: prove it. By doing so, you'll prove your own words about the entire procedure being fully covered for you and your cousin false, in addition to other things about that whole fiasco.
As for "dealing with you", I've got more experience "dealing with you" than anyone on this site other than your wife, and I'm just damned sick of it. So, let's talk false statements, Mark.
Let's talk about the false statements I have PERSONALLY seen and heard you make to prospective clients about insurance policies; misleading and intentionally false statements about how they worked (especially annuities), and whether they were the right fit. Let's talk about the false statements you tried to make in my presence, with MY LICENSE on the line, about securities that prospective clients held that you were never licensed to discuss in the first place.
The Oregon Insurance Bureau got it dead right; you scammed and conned old people regularly by lying to them, lying to the ridiculously schitty company you worked for, and lying to regulators. I know this, because I saw and heard you do it, and I tried repeatedly to get you to NOT do that. Unlike you, every deal I made with a client had to be completely vetted by me and by THREE other licensed financial advisers, none of whom you ever met and all of whom had their licenses on the line with every transaction. They had to be right, and I made sure of it. I have copies of every damned deal I ever did, as do they, and I handed all of those clients off to another licensed broker when I left that business, and they checked then to make sure that everything was kosher. You never did anything like that, because you couldn't. Go ahead and try to impugn that I was doing the same schit. You can try, but you know damned well it will be a lie and that I have the docs to prove it.
Now, let's talk about the false statements you've made in trying to (and sometimes succeeding in) getting people to send you firearms via the mail to your PO Box claiming that your C&R license was an 01 FFL. I've SEEN YOU do that, and there are several here that you tried to run that on.
While we are at it, let's talk about the Campfire Pig Hunt you went on that you tried to turn into your own gunshow; trying to trade into and out of guns that you didn't even own so you could turn a profit while the rest of the guys were there. There were SEVERAL people there that are still here that will attest to that. Hell, rattler won't even mention you by name after the schit you pulled there. Neither will ScottF for a myriad of reasons.
Let's keep going, shall we? Let's talk about the safari business you ran and what a schitshow that turned into and how you conveniently disappear whenever anyone asks about that, what you knew and when, and any type of compensation made to the guys that got screwed there.
Let's talk about the false statements you made to ME, PERSONALLY, regarding tax situations; i.e., the fact that you TWICE provided me and my accountant with false Tax ID numbers when I 1099'd you for services contracted during the few months that I was flying out to Washington, Oregon, and Idaho to try to establish a financial services business out there with your old clients. Let's talk about the fact that had my accountant not been on the ball about that, TWICE, that you would have managed to stick me with the tax bill for money paid to you, and that the IRS STILL doesn't have that filed under your name properly. And, yes, I have those documents, too.
You want to talk false statements, Mark? Great. Start with those. And, yes, I can back up every damn thing I just wrote and you know it.
I gave you every chance to correct your ways. I warned you about the firearms business you were running here without an FFL (and that only worked because you realized that the Feds were about to knock on your door). I have tried to hint at you changing you ways for long enough. You ran out of rope, and I've had it.
You want to know what God wants from you after giving you another chance at life, and you want to talk about false statements? Start there, Mark.
-Sean
Well hello SEAN!
I still consider you a friend, and as such I am going to take your suggestion at the end of your comments quite seriously. I will be away from the 'fire for a while while I weigh all of this.And yes, I will be praying that God will, as the prophet said "Search me oh God, and see if there be any wicked way in me." I have been having this conversation with others as I prepare to embark on life, part two. Also the words here of Rick Menefee (Mark, do you see what you are doing here?") and a couple of others here.
There is an old saying "If one man calls you an ass, you can disregard it, if two or more do, start shopping for a saddle"
Then in the book of proverbs we are called fools if we disregard the council of a friend. I do not want to be a fool, or to be any longer seen as one who would be dishonest.
This stuff has to be fixed, and now.
I will be away from the campfire for some time, except to communicate with folks who I have deals pending with in PM's only.
I do not expect any one here to give me any room or credence to any of this, I will have to prove it. And, it will take time and experiences for you all to see. But I am going to work at this and seek wise council and input.
I am not angry, or mad, more contemplating than anything else.
I do have an awesome and amazing second chance at life here, got to do it right.
See ya'll a bit later. PM's welcome but I won't be posting for a while.
Blessings abundant,
MARK
Might as well be another bullshit "pray for me post". The lies and manipulations won't stop until, as someone pointed out, Claiborne ends up in a ditch for all the chit he pulls.
This would be funny if it wasn't so pathologically sad.
Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by safariman
NW Rancher and I have dealt before, as buyer and seller several times and he is a good guy. I did not remember the offer to let him buy it back, but as soon as he called I honored the statement even though I do not remember making it. Fact is, I do not remember a lot of stuff from my pre renal failure years nor even much from during them. Been a little bit busy staying alive.
Plenty of folks here deal with me regularly. A known member here who does quite a bit of selling here just mailed me something today I commited to buy, without payment arriving. I just sent him his USPS MO. There are dozens of folks here who deal with me in this fashion, compared to maybe 1/2 dozen who like to try to firebomb my threads. Most of these posts, I ignore and so do the people who really know me and have dealt with me. I had several PM inquiries about this rifle, but am genuinely glad that NW Rancher is getting this back. To his home is where it belongs.
What do you have to say about your false statements regarding my real and true incoming medical bills, sir?
You want to talk false statements, Mark? Really? Fine. Let's talk false statements.
As to your bills: prove it. By doing so, you'll prove your own words about the entire procedure being fully covered for you and your cousin false, in addition to other things about that whole fiasco.
As for "dealing with you", I've got more experience "dealing with you" than anyone on this site other than your wife, and I'm just damned sick of it. So, let's talk false statements, Mark.
Let's talk about the false statements I have PERSONALLY seen and heard you make to prospective clients about insurance policies; misleading and intentionally false statements about how they worked (especially annuities), and whether they were the right fit. Let's talk about the false statements you tried to make in my presence, with MY LICENSE on the line, about securities that prospective clients held that you were never licensed to discuss in the first place.
The Oregon Insurance Bureau got it dead right; you scammed and conned old people regularly by lying to them, lying to the ridiculously schitty company you worked for, and lying to regulators. I know this, because I saw and heard you do it, and I tried repeatedly to get you to NOT do that. Unlike you, every deal I made with a client had to be completely vetted by me and by THREE other licensed financial advisers, none of whom you ever met and all of whom had their licenses on the line with every transaction. They had to be right, and I made sure of it. I have copies of every damned deal I ever did, as do they, and I handed all of those clients off to another licensed broker when I left that business, and they checked then to make sure that everything was kosher. You never did anything like that, because you couldn't. Go ahead and try to impugn that I was doing the same schit. You can try, but you know damned well it will be a lie and that I have the docs to prove it.
Now, let's talk about the false statements you've made in trying to (and sometimes succeeding in) getting people to send you firearms via the mail to your PO Box claiming that your C&R license was an 01 FFL. I've SEEN YOU do that, and there are several here that you tried to run that on.
While we are at it, let's talk about the Campfire Pig Hunt you went on that you tried to turn into your own gunshow; trying to trade into and out of guns that you didn't even own so you could turn a profit while the rest of the guys were there. There were SEVERAL people there that are still here that will attest to that. Hell, rattler won't even mention you by name after the schit you pulled there. Neither will ScottF for a myriad of reasons.
Let's keep going, shall we? Let's talk about the safari business you ran and what a schitshow that turned into and how you conveniently disappear whenever anyone asks about that, what you knew and when, and any type of compensation made to the guys that got screwed there.
Let's talk about the false statements you made to ME, PERSONALLY, regarding tax situations; i.e., the fact that you TWICE provided me and my accountant with false Tax ID numbers when I 1099'd you for services contracted during the few months that I was flying out to Washington, Oregon, and Idaho to try to establish a financial services business out there with your old clients. Let's talk about the fact that had my accountant not been on the ball about that, TWICE, that you would have managed to stick me with the tax bill for money paid to you, and that the IRS STILL doesn't have that filed under your name properly. And, yes, I have those documents, too.
You want to talk false statements, Mark? Great. Start with those. And, yes, I can back up every damn thing I just wrote and you know it.
I gave you every chance to correct your ways. I warned you about the firearms business you were running here without an FFL (and that only worked because you realized that the Feds were about to knock on your door). I have tried to hint at you changing you ways for long enough. You ran out of rope, and I've had it.
You want to know what God wants from you after giving you another chance at life, and you want to talk about false statements? Start there, Mark.
Time to lick your wounds, let things cool, and form another plan,
Originally Posted by safariman
Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by safariman
NW Rancher and I have dealt before, as buyer and seller several times and he is a good guy. I did not remember the offer to let him buy it back, but as soon as he called I honored the statement even though I do not remember making it. Fact is, I do not remember a lot of stuff from my pre renal failure years nor even much from during them. Been a little bit busy staying alive.
Plenty of folks here deal with me regularly. A known member here who does quite a bit of selling here just mailed me something today I commited to buy, without payment arriving. I just sent him his USPS MO. There are dozens of folks here who deal with me in this fashion, compared to maybe 1/2 dozen who like to try to firebomb my threads. Most of these posts, I ignore and so do the people who really know me and have dealt with me. I had several PM inquiries about this rifle, but am genuinely glad that NW Rancher is getting this back. To his home is where it belongs.
What do you have to say about your false statements regarding my real and true incoming medical bills, sir?
You want to talk false statements, Mark? Really? Fine. Let's talk false statements.
As to your bills: prove it. By doing so, you'll prove your own words about the entire procedure being fully covered for you and your cousin false, in addition to other things about that whole fiasco.
As for "dealing with you", I've got more experience "dealing with you" than anyone on this site other than your wife, and I'm just damned sick of it. So, let's talk false statements, Mark.
Let's talk about the false statements I have PERSONALLY seen and heard you make to prospective clients about insurance policies; misleading and intentionally false statements about how they worked (especially annuities), and whether they were the right fit. Let's talk about the false statements you tried to make in my presence, with MY LICENSE on the line, about securities that prospective clients held that you were never licensed to discuss in the first place.
The Oregon Insurance Bureau got it dead right; you scammed and conned old people regularly by lying to them, lying to the ridiculously schitty company you worked for, and lying to regulators. I know this, because I saw and heard you do it, and I tried repeatedly to get you to NOT do that. Unlike you, every deal I made with a client had to be completely vetted by me and by THREE other licensed financial advisers, none of whom you ever met and all of whom had their licenses on the line with every transaction. They had to be right, and I made sure of it. I have copies of every damned deal I ever did, as do they, and I handed all of those clients off to another licensed broker when I left that business, and they checked then to make sure that everything was kosher. You never did anything like that, because you couldn't. Go ahead and try to impugn that I was doing the same schit. You can try, but you know damned well it will be a lie and that I have the docs to prove it.
Now, let's talk about the false statements you've made in trying to (and sometimes succeeding in) getting people to send you firearms via the mail to your PO Box claiming that your C&R license was an 01 FFL. I've SEEN YOU do that, and there are several here that you tried to run that on.
While we are at it, let's talk about the Campfire Pig Hunt you went on that you tried to turn into your own gunshow; trying to trade into and out of guns that you didn't even own so you could turn a profit while the rest of the guys were there. There were SEVERAL people there that are still here that will attest to that. Hell, rattler won't even mention you by name after the schit you pulled there. Neither will ScottF for a myriad of reasons.
Let's keep going, shall we? Let's talk about the safari business you ran and what a schitshow that turned into and how you conveniently disappear whenever anyone asks about that, what you knew and when, and any type of compensation made to the guys that got screwed there.
Let's talk about the false statements you made to ME, PERSONALLY, regarding tax situations; i.e., the fact that you TWICE provided me and my accountant with false Tax ID numbers when I 1099'd you for services contracted during the few months that I was flying out to Washington, Oregon, and Idaho to try to establish a financial services business out there with your old clients. Let's talk about the fact that had my accountant not been on the ball about that, TWICE, that you would have managed to stick me with the tax bill for money paid to you, and that the IRS STILL doesn't have that filed under your name properly. And, yes, I have those documents, too.
You want to talk false statements, Mark? Great. Start with those. And, yes, I can back up every damn thing I just wrote and you know it.
I gave you every chance to correct your ways. I warned you about the firearms business you were running here without an FFL (and that only worked because you realized that the Feds were about to knock on your door). I have tried to hint at you changing you ways for long enough. You ran out of rope, and I've had it.
You want to know what God wants from you after giving you another chance at life, and you want to talk about false statements? Start there, Mark.
-Sean
Well hello SEAN!
I still consider you a friend, and as such I am going to take your suggestion at the end of your comments quite seriously. I will be away from the 'fire for a while while I weigh all of this.And yes, I will be praying that God will, as the prophet said "Search me oh God, and see if there be any wicked way in me." I have been having this conversation with others as I prepare to embark on life, part two. Also the words here of Rick Menefee (Mark, do you see what you are doing here?") and a couple of others here.
There is an old saying "If one man calls you an ass, you can disregard it, if two or more do, start shopping for a saddle"
Then in the book of proverbs we are called fools if we disregard the council of a friend. I do not want to be a fool, or to be any longer seen as one who would be dishonest.
This stuff has to be fixed, and now.
I will be away from the campfire for some time, except to communicate with folks who I have deals pending with in PM's only.
I do not expect any one here to give me any room or credence to any of this, I will have to prove it. And, it will take time and experiences for you all to see. But I am going to work at this and seek wise council and input.
I am not angry, or mad, more contemplating than anything else.
I do have an awesome and amazing second chance at life here, got to do it right.
See ya'll a bit later. PM's welcome but I won't be posting for a while.
I will be away from the campfire for some time, except to communicate with folks who I have deals pending with in PM's only. -----
See ya'll a bit later. PM's welcome but I won't be posting for a while.
Exit stage left.
You're no more serious about your situation now than you were before; just a planned hiatus for the lava to cool.
You even contradict yourself in your swansong.
Only communicate with pending deals, then a generic PM's welcome.
Sheesh.
4ager's post didn't say anything really different than has been said in anonymity the past year or so, its just now that you know its bona fide, you duck for cover.
Seriously, man. Is this what God and your donor planned for that kidney?
I am still waiting to see a COPY of his medical bills he was gonna post. I like the part where he states he is leaving for awhile.Does that mean you had your ass whooped
I will be away from the campfire for some time, except to communicate with folks who I have deals pending with in PM's only. -----
See ya'll a bit later. PM's welcome but I won't be posting for a while.
Exit stage left.
You're no more serious about your situation now than you were before; just a planned hiatus for the lava to cool.
You even contradict yourself in your swansong.
Only communicate with pending deals, then a generic PM's welcome.
Sheesh. 4ager's post didn't say anything really different than has been said in anonymity the past year or so, its just now that you know its bona fide, you duck for cover.
Seriously, man. Is this what God and your donor planned for that kidney?
If it even happened?
yeah as 4ager it was all bullchit, as Sean it scared the chit out of him and he takes off
I don't believe he ever had the surgery. Just can't fathom someone being as destitute as he says, crying woe is me, and please buy my oh so sentimental stuff to help me pay my madsive bills. Then turns right around and brags about a gun he is buying
I think he is so full of schidt that his eyes are probably brown
yeah as 4ager it was all bullchit, as Sean it scared the chit out of him and he takes off
Pardon the noob opining, but if his private message to me wasn't such a textbook manifestation of the modus operandi expressed throughout this thread, I guess I wouldn't really GAF.
I inquired in all sarcasm about the sale because I found it odd that the dies weren't included in a custom gun with reloads. Based on some of the links, I was going to ask if the bipod and magazine were included.
Yes, I asked with full intention to be a jerk. Sue me.
I didn't expect a private treatise on medical bills, life changing experiences, near death experiences, a litany of other guns I may be interested in, and a host of trade options that anyone in dire financial straits should consider as a cash liquidating alternative
Some of you may get that opportunity as, per Mark, "the train has not COMPLETELY left the station here... :)".
Someone post a WTB for a custom 223 Sako and see if he doesn't get a hold of you with a deal.
The way I understand it, this whole organ donation gig has been going on for decades. The scope of the financial impact should have been known aforethought.
You'd figure the custom mauser, as well as the pm'd 416 rigby mauser, 220 Swift Mauser, Sako 461 etc should have been cashed out in advance of the operation.
But what the [bleep] do I know. I'm just killing time.
yeah as 4ager it was all bullchit, as Sean it scared the chit out of him and he takes off
Pardon the noob opining, but if his private message to me wasn't such a textbook manifestation of the modus operandi expressed throughout this thread, I guess I wouldn't really GAF.
I inquired in all sarcasm about the sale because I found it odd that the dies weren't included in a custom gun with reloads. Based on some of the links, I was going to ask if the bipod and magazine were included.
Yes, I asked with full intention to be a jerk. Sue me.
I didn't expect a private treatise on medical bills, life changing experiences, near death experiences, a litany of other guns I may be interested in, and a host of trade options that anyone in dire financial straits should consider as a cash liquidating alternative
Some of you may get that opportunity as, per Mark, "the train has not COMPLETELY left the station here... :)".
Someone post a WTB for a custom 223 Sako and see if he doesn't get a hold of you with a deal.
The way I understand it, this whole organ donation gig has been going on for decades. The scope of the financial impact should have been known aforethought.
You'd figure the custom mauser, as well as the pm'd 416 rigby mauser, 220 Swift Mauser, Sako 461 etc should have been cashed out in advance of the operation.
But what the [bleep] do I know. I'm just killing time.
I normally don't post in threads like this. I try to avoid the piling on that tends to happen. That said, Mark is obviously a really pathetic human being regardless of whether one believes his tales or not.
Continuing to pile on seems akin to making fun of a retard. What's the point? It's well documented that Mark really has something clinically wrong with his brain which he is oblivious to.
I try not to read anything posted by guys like Safariman, Varmintguy, OKOK, Savage 99, TAK, rcamuglia etc. I sure appreciate the guys who do though. Especially when something like this comes up. It's just too bad none of them will stay gone when they get their a$$ handed to them.
And yes, I will be praying that God will, as the prophet said "Search me oh God, and see if there be any wicked way in me." I have been having this conversation with others as I prepare to embark on life, part two. Also the words here of Rick Menefee (Mark, do you see what you are doing here?") and a couple of others here.
There is an old saying "If one man calls you an ass, you can disregard it, if two or more do, start shopping for a saddle"
Then in the book of proverbs we are called fools if we disregard the council of a friend. I do not want to be a fool, or to be any longer seen as one who would be dishonest.
This stuff has to be fixed, and now.
I will be away from the campfire for some time, except to communicate with folks who I have deals pending with in PM's only.
I normally don't post in threads like this. I try to avoid the piling on that tends to happen. That said, Mark is obviously a really pathetic human being regardless of whether one believes his tales or not.
Continuing to pile on seems akin to making fun of a retard. What's the point? It's well documented that Mark really has something clinically wrong with his brain which he is oblivious to.
The issue, as I see it, is this individual is not retarded.
He is obviously intelligent, persuasive, well written, and manipulative; all wrapped in a narcissistic package. Classic stuff really.
Most folks that have had some life experience have run across someone like this - perhaps not to this degree - but they are out there.
This guy just happened to use those tools to prey/take advantage of older folks financially and others, some here, that simply had a generous or trusting nature.
Pedophiles leverage the same traits but for different goals.
I have no qualms piling on either one.
A public thank you to 4ager for the additional insight.
Did someone mention Petrified Walrus cock. The bottom knife has ancient Walrus pecker scales.The top knife is ancient walrus ivory. You can bet I did not get these from Safariman.One of a kind set. [img:right][/img]
This is just juicy...the intrigue, the deception, the twists... I'm wringing my hands. I'm tempted to skip my day time soap's so I can keep watch on this thread!
Did someone mention Petrified Walrus cock. The bottom knife has ancient Walrus pecker scales.The top knife is ancient walrus ivory. You can bet I did not get these from Safariman.One of a kind set. [img:right][/img]
I just gotta ask. How do you know that is really walrus pecker?
Did someone mention Petrified Walrus cock. The bottom knife has ancient Walrus pecker scales.The top knife is ancient walrus ivory. You can bet I did not get these from Safariman.One of a kind set. [img:right][/img]
I just gotta ask. How do you know that is really walrus pecker?
If you knew anything about the knife maker you would not need to ask that question. These were built for me by Rick Menefee.
ZR, that bottom menefee is awesome. When my petrified cock is retired I can only hope it is reborn Into something as good looking and useful! It won't do much good hanging from the rafters in the Smithsonian...
NW Rancher and I have dealt before, as buyer and seller several times and he is a good guy. I did not remember the offer to let him buy it back, but as soon as he called I honored the statement even though I do not remember making it. Fact is, I do not remember a lot of stuff from my pre renal failure years nor even much from during them. Been a little bit busy staying alive.
Plenty of folks here deal with me regularly. A known member here who does quite a bit of selling here just mailed me something today I commited to buy, without payment arriving. I just sent him his USPS MO. There are dozens of folks here who deal with me in this fashion, compared to maybe 1/2 dozen who like to try to firebomb my threads. Most of these posts, I ignore and so do the people who really know me and have dealt with me. I had several PM inquiries about this rifle, but am genuinely glad that NW Rancher is getting this back. To his home is where it belongs.
What do you have to say about your false statements regarding my real and true incoming medical bills, sir?
You want to talk false statements, Mark? Really? Fine. Let's talk false statements.
As to your bills: prove it. By doing so, you'll prove your own words about the entire procedure being fully covered for you and your cousin false, in addition to other things about that whole fiasco.
As for "dealing with you", I've got more experience "dealing with you" than anyone on this site other than your wife, and I'm just damned sick of it. So, let's talk false statements, Mark.
Let's talk about the false statements I have PERSONALLY seen and heard you make to prospective clients about insurance policies; misleading and intentionally false statements about how they worked (especially annuities), and whether they were the right fit. Let's talk about the false statements you tried to make in my presence, with MY LICENSE on the line, about securities that prospective clients held that you were never licensed to discuss in the first place.
The Oregon Insurance Bureau got it dead right; you scammed and conned old people regularly by lying to them, lying to the ridiculously schitty company you worked for, and lying to regulators. I know this, because I saw and heard you do it, and I tried repeatedly to get you to NOT do that. Unlike you, every deal I made with a client had to be completely vetted by me and by THREE other licensed financial advisers, none of whom you ever met and all of whom had their licenses on the line with every transaction. They had to be right, and I made sure of it. I have copies of every damned deal I ever did, as do they, and I handed all of those clients off to another licensed broker when I left that business, and they checked then to make sure that everything was kosher. You never did anything like that, because you couldn't. Go ahead and try to impugn that I was doing the same schit. You can try, but you know damned well it will be a lie and that I have the docs to prove it.
Now, let's talk about the false statements you've made in trying to (and sometimes succeeding in) getting people to send you firearms via the mail to your PO Box claiming that your C&R license was an 01 FFL. I've SEEN YOU do that, and there are several here that you tried to run that on.
While we are at it, let's talk about the Campfire Pig Hunt you went on that you tried to turn into your own gunshow; trying to trade into and out of guns that you didn't even own so you could turn a profit while the rest of the guys were there. There were SEVERAL people there that are still here that will attest to that. Hell, rattler won't even mention you by name after the schit you pulled there. Neither will ScottF for a myriad of reasons.
Let's keep going, shall we? Let's talk about the safari business you ran and what a schitshow that turned into and how you conveniently disappear whenever anyone asks about that, what you knew and when, and any type of compensation made to the guys that got screwed there.
Let's talk about the false statements you made to ME, PERSONALLY, regarding tax situations; i.e., the fact that you TWICE provided me and my accountant with false Tax ID numbers when I 1099'd you for services contracted during the few months that I was flying out to Washington, Oregon, and Idaho to try to establish a financial services business out there with your old clients. Let's talk about the fact that had my accountant not been on the ball about that, TWICE, that you would have managed to stick me with the tax bill for money paid to you, and that the IRS STILL doesn't have that filed under your name properly. And, yes, I have those documents, too.
You want to talk false statements, Mark? Great. Start with those. And, yes, I can back up every damn thing I just wrote and you know it.
I gave you every chance to correct your ways. I warned you about the firearms business you were running here without an FFL (and that only worked because you realized that the Feds were about to knock on your door). I have tried to hint at you changing you ways for long enough. You ran out of rope, and I've had it.
You want to know what God wants from you after giving you another chance at life, and you want to talk about false statements? Start there, Mark.
-Sean
Well hello SEAN!
I still consider you a friend, and as such I am going to take your suggestion at the end of your comments quite seriously. I will be away from the 'fire for a while while I weigh all of this.And yes, I will be praying that God will, as the prophet said "Search me oh God, and see if there be any wicked way in me." I have been having this conversation with others as I prepare to embark on life, part two. Also the words here of Rick Menefee (Mark, do you see what you are doing here?") and a couple of others here.
There is an old saying "If one man calls you an ass, you can disregard it, if two or more do, start shopping for a saddle"
Then in the book of proverbs we are called fools if we disregard the council of a friend. I do not want to be a fool, or to be any longer seen as one who would be dishonest.
This stuff has to be fixed, and now.
I will be away from the campfire for some time, except to communicate with folks who I have deals pending with in PM's only.
I do not expect any one here to give me any room or credence to any of this, I will have to prove it. And, it will take time and experiences for you all to see. But I am going to work at this and seek wise council and input.
I am not angry, or mad, more contemplating than anything else.
I do have an awesome and amazing second chance at life here, got to do it right.
See ya'll a bit later. PM's welcome but I won't be posting for a while.
Blessings abundant,
MARK
You know, I had a bet running as to how you would respond when I posted what I did. Unfortunately, I won that bet. That post of yours is so much part of your MO that it's like a tattoo. When you are finally caught and can't get out of it, you pull the "I will take some time and pray to God to heal me" card. I've seen you do this time and again, and here you are pulling it once more. This flanking maneuver isn't a true reflection upon your actions, but a means for you to avoid addressing the real problems you have. If you can actually be sincere with yourself, you'd admit that.
Yes, you need some time away. A long time. That doesn't mean behind the scenes PM deals and "prayer sessions" with the Campfire "faithful". That means some serious time away; completely away. And, frankly, you need help. Not the "I will pray with my pastor" kind of help, but real, professional, psychiatric help from someone who isn't going to just "pray with you" and make you feel better because you have "sinned". You need someone who is going to diagnose you and treat you because you've got some very serious issues.
I've seen you pull the "I'm caught so I'll go away for a while" ruse and all you ever really hope for is that the person or people aggrieved will cool off, forgive, or forget. That doesn't address the problem, and on top of it all, it plays into your "well, I didn't really do anything wrong" mantra. This is how you treated insurance and compliance complaints, and why you still can't and won't admit that what Oregon busted you for is exactly what you did. And, you did it dozens, if not hundreds, of times over those few instances where you got caught. I know this, and you know this.
I've seen you pull the "I must pray to God to heal me" thing too many times to count. For many people, faith is a comforting thing and they use it to try to better themselves and to be better toward others. You, frankly, do not. You use it as a crutch and as a weapon. The crutch to absolve you of responsibility (i.e., "I am but a poor sinner; it's not my fault; God forgive me"), and the weapon to gain people's confidence and trust. The first time I saw you pray with an old person and then turn right around and try to convince them that a schitty annuity was the right fit for them, I couldn't believe it. After that, I saw it so often I knew that it was just part of your game. You found a weak spot in most people for their faith, and you exploited it through your own. You'll try to do that again when you come back here, if you don't go get some real help.
Coming back here, and even you being here, has been one of the biggest problems you've had. You have enough "prayer buddies" around here that you have always been able to find someone to buy your Christianity and stick up for you, and you've always been able to find someone to buy the next deal you throw out there. All you've ever needed was one person to validate to you that you didn't do wrong, no matter what you've done or to whom, and you'd carry right on.
I'm not a priest or pastor, nor am I a psychiatrist. Hell, I don't even play one on TV and I haven't stayed in a Holiday Inn Express in several years. Here's what I see, though, if I were to look at it from those perspectives.
You are a prideful, greedy man. That's two of the Seven Deadly Sins. Your pride won't allow you to admit your mistakes, your faults, or to truly seek any help. That feeds into your greed. You worked for many, many years and made several millions of dollars (think about how much commission you've made, and you know I'm right). Yet, you don't have schit to show for it. Why? Your pride made you always seek the flashiest junk out there, or the most boastful trips or hunts, and your greed kept you always wanting more. Hell, I've seen times when your wife's vehicle was in bad shape, your rent was due, and you had just tried to borrow money or get an advance, and yet you'd turn right around and pull out a wad of cash (rent money; your wife's vehicle repair money) to buy another gun. When you could have, and should have, saved money or paid bills you had due, you didn't. You took that money and you bought toys for yourself, and those toys are all you have left (and you still aren't getting rid of them because they are for you). You're doing that again here, and you have for years.
You've got some serious psychopathic, narcissistic tendencies. The psychopathy manifests itself in your ingrained aversion to the truth. You can't not tell a lie; it's just who you are. Your lies are always about how special you, or something you have, is or was (Pride, again). You NEVER show true guilt about the actions, only a reaction to being caught. This time is no different. Let's not even get into the shallow relationships all geared toward benefiting you in some fashion. You know damned well that's there.
The narcissism is obvious. Everything you do is always all about you. You're in a quartet, but you have to make sure you're the biggest one in it and you're the one that controls the CDs. Even in your church, and remember I've seen you there, too, was just a pool of potential clients or gun sales/buys or a means to gain access to hunting property. Vehicle choices, trips, tattoos, you name it - it has always been about you. Hell, even your "prayers" are about you: "heal me; take away the evil/sin; make be better; help me find the next deal; etc."
Mark, you need help. You need real, professional, psychiatric help. You don't just need a small break from here, or to go off and pray for a bit, or to sit back and read the Bible; you need help. Please, go get that help. Don't talk about. Don't come on here and say you are, or will, or have. Just go get that help and take a very long complete break from here.
If you do that, maybe God really will let you know what His plan was for you to have a few more years. Or, maybe that is simply His plan after all. Whatever it is, it starts with you getting some real, serious help.
You are all wasting your time. Mark is exactly who and what he he wants to be. He does not want to or plan to change. Quit wasting your time on trying to save him and move on to someone who is still worth saving.
4ager..That was ten minutes of your life you will never get back. Taken by Safariman at that.
You are all wasting your time. Mark is exactly who and what he he wants to be. He does not want to or plan to change. Quit wasting your time on trying to save him and move on to someone who is still worth saving.
4ager..That was ten minutes of your life you will never get back. Taken by Safariman at that.
Sitting through a webinar. Those ten minutes were toast anyway.
I normally don't post in threads like this. I try to avoid the piling on that tends to happen. That said, Mark is obviously a really pathetic human being regardless of whether one believes his tales or not.
Continuing to pile on seems akin to making fun of a retard. What's the point? It's well documented that Mark really has something clinically wrong with his brain which he is oblivious to.
The issue, as I see it, is this individual is not retarded.
He is obviously intelligent, persuasive, well written, and manipulative; all wrapped in a narcissistic package. Classic stuff really.
Most folks that have had some life experience have run across someone like this - perhaps not to this degree - but they are out there.
This guy just happened to use those tools to prey/take advantage of older folks financially and others, some here, that simply had a generous or trusting nature.
Pedophiles leverage the same traits but for different goals.
I have no qualms piling on either one.
A public thank you to 4ager for the additional insight.
NW Rancher and I have dealt before, as buyer and seller several times and he is a good guy. I did not remember the offer to let him buy it back, but as soon as he called I honored the statement even though I do not remember making it. Fact is, I do not remember a lot of stuff from my pre renal failure years nor even much from during them. Been a little bit busy staying alive.
Plenty of folks here deal with me regularly. A known member here who does quite a bit of selling here just mailed me something today I commited to buy, without payment arriving. I just sent him his USPS MO. There are dozens of folks here who deal with me in this fashion, compared to maybe 1/2 dozen who like to try to firebomb my threads. Most of these posts, I ignore and so do the people who really know me and have dealt with me. I had several PM inquiries about this rifle, but am genuinely glad that NW Rancher is getting this back. To his home is where it belongs.
What do you have to say about your false statements regarding my real and true incoming medical bills, sir?
You want to talk false statements, Mark? Really? Fine. Let's talk false statements.
As to your bills: prove it. By doing so, you'll prove your own words about the entire procedure being fully covered for you and your cousin false, in addition to other things about that whole fiasco.
As for "dealing with you", I've got more experience "dealing with you" than anyone on this site other than your wife, and I'm just damned sick of it. So, let's talk false statements, Mark.
Let's talk about the false statements I have PERSONALLY seen and heard you make to prospective clients about insurance policies; misleading and intentionally false statements about how they worked (especially annuities), and whether they were the right fit. Let's talk about the false statements you tried to make in my presence, with MY LICENSE on the line, about securities that prospective clients held that you were never licensed to discuss in the first place.
The Oregon Insurance Bureau got it dead right; you scammed and conned old people regularly by lying to them, lying to the ridiculously schitty company you worked for, and lying to regulators. I know this, because I saw and heard you do it, and I tried repeatedly to get you to NOT do that. Unlike you, every deal I made with a client had to be completely vetted by me and by THREE other licensed financial advisers, none of whom you ever met and all of whom had their licenses on the line with every transaction. They had to be right, and I made sure of it. I have copies of every damned deal I ever did, as do they, and I handed all of those clients off to another licensed broker when I left that business, and they checked then to make sure that everything was kosher. You never did anything like that, because you couldn't. Go ahead and try to impugn that I was doing the same schit. You can try, but you know damned well it will be a lie and that I have the docs to prove it.
Now, let's talk about the false statements you've made in trying to (and sometimes succeeding in) getting people to send you firearms via the mail to your PO Box claiming that your C&R license was an 01 FFL. I've SEEN YOU do that, and there are several here that you tried to run that on.
While we are at it, let's talk about the Campfire Pig Hunt you went on that you tried to turn into your own gunshow; trying to trade into and out of guns that you didn't even own so you could turn a profit while the rest of the guys were there. There were SEVERAL people there that are still here that will attest to that. Hell, rattler won't even mention you by name after the schit you pulled there. Neither will ScottF for a myriad of reasons.
Let's keep going, shall we? Let's talk about the safari business you ran and what a schitshow that turned into and how you conveniently disappear whenever anyone asks about that, what you knew and when, and any type of compensation made to the guys that got screwed there.
Let's talk about the false statements you made to ME, PERSONALLY, regarding tax situations; i.e., the fact that you TWICE provided me and my accountant with false Tax ID numbers when I 1099'd you for services contracted during the few months that I was flying out to Washington, Oregon, and Idaho to try to establish a financial services business out there with your old clients. Let's talk about the fact that had my accountant not been on the ball about that, TWICE, that you would have managed to stick me with the tax bill for money paid to you, and that the IRS STILL doesn't have that filed under your name properly. And, yes, I have those documents, too.
You want to talk false statements, Mark? Great. Start with those. And, yes, I can back up every damn thing I just wrote and you know it.
I gave you every chance to correct your ways. I warned you about the firearms business you were running here without an FFL (and that only worked because you realized that the Feds were about to knock on your door). I have tried to hint at you changing you ways for long enough. You ran out of rope, and I've had it.
You want to know what God wants from you after giving you another chance at life, and you want to talk about false statements? Start there, Mark.
-Sean
Well hello SEAN!
I still consider you a friend, and as such I am going to take your suggestion at the end of your comments quite seriously. I will be away from the 'fire for a while while I weigh all of this.And yes, I will be praying that God will, as the prophet said "Search me oh God, and see if there be any wicked way in me." I have been having this conversation with others as I prepare to embark on life, part two. Also the words here of Rick Menefee (Mark, do you see what you are doing here?") and a couple of others here.
There is an old saying "If one man calls you an ass, you can disregard it, if two or more do, start shopping for a saddle"
Then in the book of proverbs we are called fools if we disregard the council of a friend. I do not want to be a fool, or to be any longer seen as one who would be dishonest.
This stuff has to be fixed, and now.
I will be away from the campfire for some time, except to communicate with folks who I have deals pending with in PM's only.
I do not expect any one here to give me any room or credence to any of this, I will have to prove it. And, it will take time and experiences for you all to see. But I am going to work at this and seek wise council and input.
I am not angry, or mad, more contemplating than anything else.
I do have an awesome and amazing second chance at life here, got to do it right.
See ya'll a bit later. PM's welcome but I won't be posting for a while.
Blessings abundant,
MARK
You know, I had a bet running as to how you would respond when I posted what I did. Unfortunately, I won that bet. That post of yours is so much part of your MO that it's like a tattoo. When you are finally caught and can't get out of it, you pull the "I will take some time and pray to God to heal me" card. I've seen you do this time and again, and here you are pulling it once more. This flanking maneuver isn't a true reflection upon your actions, but a means for you to avoid addressing the real problems you have. If you can actually be sincere with yourself, you'd admit that.
Yes, you need some time away. A long time. That doesn't mean behind the scenes PM deals and "prayer sessions" with the Campfire "faithful". That means some serious time away; completely away. And, frankly, you need help. Not the "I will pray with my pastor" kind of help, but real, professional, psychiatric help from someone who isn't going to just "pray with you" and make you feel better because you have "sinned". You need someone who is going to diagnose you and treat you because you've got some very serious issues.
I've seen you pull the "I'm caught so I'll go away for a while" ruse and all you ever really hope for is that the person or people aggrieved will cool off, forgive, or forget. That doesn't address the problem, and on top of it all, it plays into your "well, I didn't really do anything wrong" mantra. This is how you treated insurance and compliance complaints, and why you still can't and won't admit that what Oregon busted you for is exactly what you did. And, you did it dozens, if not hundreds, of times over those few instances where you got caught. I know this, and you know this.
I've seen you pull the "I must pray to God to heal me" thing too many times to count. For many people, faith is a comforting thing and they use it to try to better themselves and to be better toward others. You, frankly, do not. You use it as a crutch and as a weapon. The crutch to absolve you of responsibility (i.e., "I am but a poor sinner; it's not my fault; God forgive me"), and the weapon to gain people's confidence and trust. The first time I saw you pray with an old person and then turn right around and try to convince them that a schitty annuity was the right fit for them, I couldn't believe it. After that, I saw it so often I knew that it was just part of your game. You found a weak spot in most people for their faith, and you exploited it through your own. You'll try to do that again when you come back here, if you don't go get some real help.
Coming back here, and even you being here, has been one of the biggest problems you've had. You have enough "prayer buddies" around here that you have always been able to find someone to buy your Christianity and stick up for you, and you've always been able to find someone to buy the next deal you throw out there. All you've ever needed was one person to validate to you that you didn't do wrong, no matter what you've done or to whom, and you'd carry right on.
I'm not a priest or pastor, nor am I a psychiatrist. Hell, I don't even play one on TV and I haven't stayed in a Holiday Inn Express in several years. Here's what I see, though, if I were to look at it from those perspectives.
You are a prideful, greedy man. That's two of the Seven Deadly Sins. Your pride won't allow you to admit your mistakes, your faults, or to truly seek any help. That feeds into your greed. You worked for many, many years and made several millions of dollars (think about how much commission you've made, and you know I'm right). Yet, you don't have schit to show for it. Why? Your pride made you always seek the flashiest junk out there, or the most boastful trips or hunts, and your greed kept you always wanting more. Hell, I've seen times when your wife's vehicle was in bad shape, your rent was due, and you had just tried to borrow money or get an advance, and yet you'd turn right around and pull out a wad of cash (rent money; your wife's vehicle repair money) to buy another gun. When you could have, and should have, saved money or paid bills you had due, you didn't. You took that money and you bought toys for yourself, and those toys are all you have left (and you still aren't getting rid of them because they are for you). You're doing that again here, and you have for years.
You've got some serious psychopathic, narcissistic tendencies. The psychopathy manifests itself in your ingrained aversion to the truth. You can't not tell a lie; it's just who you are. Your lies are always about how special you, or something you have, is or was (Pride, again). You NEVER show true guilt about the actions, only a reaction to being caught. This time is no different. Let's not even get into the shallow relationships all geared toward benefiting you in some fashion. You know damned well that's there.
The narcissism is obvious. Everything you do is always all about you. You're in a quartet, but you have to make sure you're the biggest one in it and you're the one that controls the CDs. Even in your church, and remember I've seen you there, too, was just a pool of potential clients or gun sales/buys or a means to gain access to hunting property. Vehicle choices, trips, tattoos, you name it - it has always been about you. Hell, even your "prayers" are about you: "heal me; take away the evil/sin; make be better; help me find the next deal; etc."
Mark, you need help. You need real, professional, psychiatric help. You don't just need a small break from here, or to go off and pray for a bit, or to sit back and read the Bible; you need help. Please, go get that help. Don't talk about. Don't come on here and say you are, or will, or have. Just go get that help and take a very long complete break from here.
If you do that, maybe God really will let you know what His plan was for you to have a few more years. Or, maybe that is simply His plan after all. Whatever it is, it starts with you getting some real, serious help.
Helluva good post.
Mark will never leave such a target rich environment as Campfire Classifieds.
You know, I had a bet running as to how you would respond when I posted what I did. Unfortunately, I won that bet.
In reading your posts, even from years ago, I've not ever had the impression that you are anybody's fool.
What I find curious is how it is that you got into any type of relationship with SM in the first place, especially business-wise as your prior post seems to imply?
You know, I had a bet running as to how you would respond when I posted what I did. Unfortunately, I won that bet.
In reading your posts, even from years ago, I've not ever had the impression that you are anybody's fool.
What I find curious is how it is that you got into any type of relationship with SM in the first place, especially business-wise as your prior post seems to imply?
Gave the benefit of the doubt to someone whom I should not have, and even while trying to do the right thing managed to figure out I needed none of it. I made some mistakes, paid my prices for doing so (none professional, all personal), made sure that all those I dealt with were taken care of and the right thing done by them to the best of my ability, and left in very good hands and then I left that kind of business for good.
Ain't the first time I've been burned by one whom I thought/called a "friend", and I doubt it will be the last.
Being that we are human, we sometimes give the benefit of the doubt to someone we want to see the good in.
It is troubling when it doesn't work out that we should have.
You were right to post your experiences with Claiborne. We all have faults, but it appears his are nefarious.
When he posts and members bring up his past dealings, I don't think it should be considered piling on. More like a public service so that no other member of the campfire is taken.
At this point he may not even have bad intentions when he deals with folks, but his proclivity is to cheat.
I have no use for a man who will cheat the elderly or his "friends".
Claiborne isn't going to change. Oh, he'll give some lip service and flap his gums about being contrite, and how his "Christian" faith will redeem and wash away his sins and now he's humbled.... but in the end, his actions will prove otherwise.
ZR, that bottom menefee is awesome. When my petrified cock is retired I can only hope it is reborn Into something as good looking and useful! It won't do much good hanging from the rafters in the Smithsonian...
I pretty sure someone with better google fu can pull up the last time he said right here that he was going to take time off, get things right, and lay low for awhile. It lasted no more than a couple weeks, IIRC.
He needs more than the help being recommended here--he needs institutionalization actually.
Besides, I thought the feds were going to bust him for illegal gun dealing without a license?
Claiborne isn't going to change. Oh, he'll give some lip service and flap his gums about being contrite, and how his "Christian" faith will redeem and wash away his sins and now he's humbled.... but in the end, his actions will prove otherwise.
NW Rancher and I have dealt before, as buyer and seller several times and he is a good guy. I did not remember the offer to let him buy it back, but as soon as he called I honored the statement even though I do not remember making it. Fact is, I do not remember a lot of stuff from my pre renal failure years nor even much from during them. Been a little bit busy staying alive.
Plenty of folks here deal with me regularly. A known member here who does quite a bit of selling here just mailed me something today I commited to buy, without payment arriving. I just sent him his USPS MO. There are dozens of folks here who deal with me in this fashion, compared to maybe 1/2 dozen who like to try to firebomb my threads. Most of these posts, I ignore and so do the people who really know me and have dealt with me. I had several PM inquiries about this rifle, but am genuinely glad that NW Rancher is getting this back. To his home is where it belongs.
What do you have to say about your false statements regarding my real and true incoming medical bills, sir?
You want to talk false statements, Mark? Really? Fine. Let's talk false statements.
As to your bills: prove it. By doing so, you'll prove your own words about the entire procedure being fully covered for you and your cousin false, in addition to other things about that whole fiasco.
As for "dealing with you", I've got more experience "dealing with you" than anyone on this site other than your wife, and I'm just damned sick of it. So, let's talk false statements, Mark.
Let's talk about the false statements I have PERSONALLY seen and heard you make to prospective clients about insurance policies; misleading and intentionally false statements about how they worked (especially annuities), and whether they were the right fit. Let's talk about the false statements you tried to make in my presence, with MY LICENSE on the line, about securities that prospective clients held that you were never licensed to discuss in the first place.
The Oregon Insurance Bureau got it dead right; you scammed and conned old people regularly by lying to them, lying to the ridiculously schitty company you worked for, and lying to regulators. I know this, because I saw and heard you do it, and I tried repeatedly to get you to NOT do that. Unlike you, every deal I made with a client had to be completely vetted by me and by THREE other licensed financial advisers, none of whom you ever met and all of whom had their licenses on the line with every transaction. They had to be right, and I made sure of it. I have copies of every damned deal I ever did, as do they, and I handed all of those clients off to another licensed broker when I left that business, and they checked then to make sure that everything was kosher. You never did anything like that, because you couldn't. Go ahead and try to impugn that I was doing the same schit. You can try, but you know damned well it will be a lie and that I have the docs to prove it.
Now, let's talk about the false statements you've made in trying to (and sometimes succeeding in) getting people to send you firearms via the mail to your PO Box claiming that your C&R license was an 01 FFL. I've SEEN YOU do that, and there are several here that you tried to run that on.
While we are at it, let's talk about the Campfire Pig Hunt you went on that you tried to turn into your own gunshow; trying to trade into and out of guns that you didn't even own so you could turn a profit while the rest of the guys were there. There were SEVERAL people there that are still here that will attest to that. Hell, rattler won't even mention you by name after the schit you pulled there. Neither will ScottF for a myriad of reasons.
Let's keep going, shall we? Let's talk about the safari business you ran and what a schitshow that turned into and how you conveniently disappear whenever anyone asks about that, what you knew and when, and any type of compensation made to the guys that got screwed there.
Let's talk about the false statements you made to ME, PERSONALLY, regarding tax situations; i.e., the fact that you TWICE provided me and my accountant with false Tax ID numbers when I 1099'd you for services contracted during the few months that I was flying out to Washington, Oregon, and Idaho to try to establish a financial services business out there with your old clients. Let's talk about the fact that had my accountant not been on the ball about that, TWICE, that you would have managed to stick me with the tax bill for money paid to you, and that the IRS STILL doesn't have that filed under your name properly. And, yes, I have those documents, too.
You want to talk false statements, Mark? Great. Start with those. And, yes, I can back up every damn thing I just wrote and you know it.
I gave you every chance to correct your ways. I warned you about the firearms business you were running here without an FFL (and that only worked because you realized that the Feds were about to knock on your door). I have tried to hint at you changing you ways for long enough. You ran out of rope, and I've had it.
You want to know what God wants from you after giving you another chance at life, and you want to talk about false statements? Start there, Mark.
-Sean
When the whip comes down! Advantage, 4Ager.
At this juncture I think it's appropriate for a poll of Scumbagman's few remaining supporters (bless their ignorant souls). Does this scathing and devastating new development change what was your previous support of him?
Read the first post. His pathetic, 3rd grade level attempt at spelling 'fleur de lis'. About the same caliber at his pathological lying actually, now that I think of it...
...LOTS of good guys here, ignore the cowardly thread bombers.
Guess he's off somewhere pretending this was all fabricated by a few of us cowardly thread bombers.
If a known sex offender moved in next door, would you notify the neighbors only after their daughter doesn't come home from school? Would you stand by and watch your friends be cheated by a career con man?
Good analogy. 4ager's deathblow post as well as the insurance board's findings and subsequent license revocation need to be pinned to every single post this crooked POS puts up here. It's high time he was run off for good, and doing that might just do the trick.
Gave the benefit of the doubt to someone whom I should not have, and even while trying to do the right thing managed to figure out I needed none of it. I made some mistakes, paid my prices for doing so (none professional, all personal), made sure that all those I dealt with were taken care of and the right thing done by them to the best of my ability, and left in very good hands and then I left that kind of business for good.
Ain't the first time I've been burned by one whom I thought/called a "friend", and I doubt it will be the last.
You were just one more in the long line of confidence carnage left in the wake of Safariman Mark Claiborne.
Everything except Sean's personal interactions with Mark have been posted here before, including the prosecuted insurance scamming. People refuse to pay attention most of the time.
I'm curious as to who the SM supporters are? I'd consider them as likely to [bleep] one over in a deal.
From the first couple pages, I left the names out.
Quote
You're a fugging Classifieds Cowboy bitching about a long time, well respected member here.
I'd happily deal with Mark any time. You, not so much.
Quote
You'll have one HELL of a challenge in attempting to cast even the slightest bit of shadow upon the character of safariman. He's about as quality of a man as you'll find anywhere.
Your post only makes me question your integrity..
Quote
you won't be making many friends around here by bad-mouthing Mark Claiborne. Too many folks around here, myself included, have had nothing but excellent dealings with him. I'd have no problem sending him anything I own on just his word that the check is in the mail.
Quote
I'll stand by Mark in a firefight to the death
Quote
Mark is a man of honor and character.
Quote
Mark like others have said you have nothing but my respect and admiration.
Quote
Mark is Good to Go, I bought a Daewoo DP51 from him and it was perfect. I will always deal with Mark.
Quote
Mark invests himself in his dealings and MAKES friends
Quote
Yes, he is a truely trustworthy gentleman. And he can sing to boot. I've got on of his CD's to prove it
Quote
I have dealt with Mark on two separate occasions, and both went off flawlessly. I cannot speak to the character of the OP, but Mark is GTG in my book and I would not hesitate to deal with him again.
Quote
I'll trade with safariman any time. I've enjoyed his posts and anybody can tell by reading them that he is one of the good guys and that he truly cares.
Quote
i'd deal with mark anyday. class guy all the way. honest and open
Quote
I'll take Mark's word and his back, any time, any where.
Quote
Mark is as honest as they come
Quote
I've known Mark for more than 20 years. He has never been anything but straight up and honest and a good friend.
I'm curious as to who the SM supporters are? I'd consider them as likely to [bleep] one over in a deal.
From the first couple pages, I left the names out.
Quote
You're a fugging Classifieds Cowboy bitching about a long time, well respected member here.
I'd happily deal with Mark any time. You, not so much.
Quote
You'll have one HELL of a challenge in attempting to cast even the slightest bit of shadow upon the character of safariman. He's about as quality of a man as you'll find anywhere.
Your post only makes me question your integrity..
Quote
you won't be making many friends around here by bad-mouthing Mark Claiborne. Too many folks around here, myself included, have had nothing but excellent dealings with him. I'd have no problem sending him anything I own on just his word that the check is in the mail.
Quote
I'll stand by Mark in a firefight to the death
Quote
Mark is a man of honor and character.
Quote
Mark like others have said you have nothing but my respect and admiration.
Quote
Mark is Good to Go, I bought a Daewoo DP51 from him and it was perfect. I will always deal with Mark.
Quote
Mark invests himself in his dealings and MAKES friends
Quote
Yes, he is a truely trustworthy gentleman. And he can sing to boot. I've got on of his CD's to prove it
Quote
I have dealt with Mark on two separate occasions, and both went off flawlessly. I cannot speak to the character of the OP, but Mark is GTG in my book and I would not hesitate to deal with him again.
Quote
I'll trade with safariman any time. I've enjoyed his posts and anybody can tell by reading them that he is one of the good guys and that he truly cares.
Quote
i'd deal with mark anyday. class guy all the way. honest and open
Quote
I'll take Mark's word and his back, any time, any where.
Quote
Mark is as honest as they come
Quote
I've known Mark for more than 20 years. He has never been anything but straight up and honest and a good friend.
I wonder what his wife thinks about all this? He PM me week or so ago about elk hunting in Idaho I threw him some ideas out their potential hunts but I suspect it wasn't what he was looking for. He might of been fishing for an invite on a elk hunt. As 4ager said he uses his so called faith as his way in. I'm a good ol Mormon boy but I'm not a naïve Mormon lol.
The evidence has demonstrated that Mr. Claiborne committed multiple violations of insurance laws in connection with the sale of annuities. Most significantly, despite his knowledge of the requirement that he attempt to ascertain whether the sale of an annuity was not unsuitable, Mr. Claiborne, on at least three occasions, recommended the sale of annuities to elderly individuals without a meaningful assessment of their economic circumstances. With regard to Ms. Holmes, Mr. Claiborne recommended the sale of an annuity Page 28 of 30 Amended Proposed Order, Claiborne, Case No. INS 10-02-005 that resulted in an immediate loss of more than $2,000 and the potential for future lost interest payments. With regard to the Woods, Mr. Claiborne recommended the sale of an annuity despite having almost no information regarding the Woods‟s savings and investments. When Bankers Life questioned the suitability of the investment, Mr. Claiborne altered a form which Mr. Wood had previously signed as being accurate. When confronted about changes to the document, Mr. Claiborne gave conflicting and increasingly self-serving answers. With regard to the Holloway transaction, Mr. Claiborne recommended the sale of an annuity that he knew would be funded primarily through the surrender of a variable annuity and actively assisted Mr. Holloway in discussions with Prudential to secure the necessary forms needed to complete the transaction. Mr. Claiborne made this recommendation despite the fact he had never read the policy nor understood its unique and advantageous features for Mr. Holloway. Despite his knowledge, Mr. Claiborne falsely indicated on Mr. Holloway‟s application that he was not replacing an existing annuity, and did not plan on doing so. Mr. Claiborne offered no reasonable explanation for his conduct, but falsely asserted that he was not aware of Mr. Holloway‟s decision to surrender the Prudential annuity. The evidence also established that Mr. Claiborne made false statements, as well as an untimely response to the Division, including statements under oath, in an attempt to shield himself from liability for his conduct. His statements to investigators were often self-serving, contradictory, and contrary to all other available evidence. Given those false statements, the Division can have no assurance that Mr. Claiborne will fully cooperate with any future investigations that might arise. Mr. Claiborne has thus demonstrated a willingness to deceive other insurance companies, the Division, and most importantly, the consumers, to serve his own interests. Because the Division cannot rely on Mr. Claiborne to tell the truth, its ability to effectively regulate his conduct to protect consumers in the future will be severely restricted. Given the evidence in this matter, the ALJ concluded that the appropriate sanction is revocation. ORS 744.074(1) allows the Division to revoke Mr. Claiborne‟s license. The Division takes seriously its responsibility to protect the public from unscrupulous licensees. Mr. Claiborne‟s license has already been suspended once for similar misconduct. (Ex. A1.) Given his prior discipline and level of misconduct at issue here, the Division finds that the only appropriate sanction is the revocation2 of Mr. Claiborne‟s license.
After reading this I am surprised that somebody hasn't either buried Safariman or left him laying in a ditch beaten within an inch of his life.
I was really crackin' me up reading some of those old threads.
Clark
Someone needs to find the thread where everyone took up a collection to buy his wife new tires for her car. Or the one where he bought/traded for a pistol didn't even have it in his possession yet and was either trying to sell it/trade it. Again what does his wife do just sit by and watch this train wreck..
Mark: Did you happen to list that firearm as an asset in your Chapter 7 Bankruptcy before you got your discharge on 02/17/2015? It would have been nice to use that money to pay your creditors.
One of the keys to effective marketing is looking for an undisturbed un marketed to potential market. Might have found a way to do that here, and it was fun for all.
Originally Posted by safariman
Good to see an apology. Big of you and we'll see what kinds of things you come up with now.
Everyone deserves another chance or two.
ME? I have decided to not post while on Ambien. Said some odd stuff and non sensical semi sentences when posting while this nasty stuff was working its way into my brain. We all live and learn, including me.
Then this, I sure hope the money/scope found it's way, but I'm not liking the odds.
Some friends and I are helping a 100% disabled Viet Nam Vet get into a low recoil CF rifle to hunt deer with on his home place. Becasue his home state requires a caliber of 24 as a minimum and because of his injuries precluding any recoil we have obtained a Browning Semi Automatic (BAR)in 243. Should be pretty soft shooting. I hope to deliver his new rifle to him when I see him on about the 18th, but the supply of inexpensive used variable scopes over in classified seems to have temporarily dried up and the project has gone a bit over budget already when we saw the Browning BAR 243 and decided that our friend had to have it so we are in the hunt for something in the 3x-9x range of decent quality. Above Tasco/Simmons/BSA and Bubblepack Bushnell but not expecting anyone to give away a Nightforce or sell it to us for $100.00! Can spend SOME money, have some trade bait, particulary if one likes Barnes Bullets to put into a deal.
Let me know what you have, not asking neccesarily for a freebie as there is a bit of money available for a good deal on a low end Nikon or Vortex etc which would be fine for this guy.
PTSD afflicted and injured friend is adverse to any publicity so no names or pictures will be provided, unfortunately. If someone thinks I am snowing or scamming for a scope for myself then don't bother to reply here but I hope most here know that I have plenty of high end scopes and rifles of my own, and plenty enough to not stoop to such a post for my own benefit.
Thaks for looking and thinking of this, All the best as always,
Mark has gotten excellent mileage and benefits from the campfire members. Amazes me how many gullible people there are, especially those that still support him and continue to drink his bathwater.
Mark has gotten excellent mileage and benefits from the campfire members. Amazes me how many gullible people there are, especially those that still support him and continue to drink his bathwater.
part of it is i believe he is a sociopath and perfectly capable and able to con intelligent people up close and in person not just with the benifit of the net or the elderly.....i was one of them.....i was one of his defenders cause i was one of the people he showed only one side to....now i think he did it, as he has done with others, is to have a cheering section available to help continue pulling off scams....i defended him cause after spending a fair bit of time actually with him he came across as exactly the guy that he tries to appear to be even for extended periods in person...and my experiance with meeting people from here has always been good which prolly helped with the illusion....anyone willing to meet up has been good people...
im guessing he has done the same to many others to further his scams
ZR, that bottom menefee is awesome. When my petrified cock is retired I can only hope it is reborn Into something as good looking and useful! It won't do much good hanging from the rafters in the Smithsonian...
Did someone mention Petrified Walrus cock. The bottom knife has ancient Walrus pecker scales.The top knife is ancient walrus ivory. You can bet I did not get these from Safariman.One of a kind set. [img:right][/img]
I just gotta ask. How do you know that is really walrus pecker?
If you knew anything about the knife maker you would not need to ask that question. These were built for me by Rick Menefee.
Pretty easy to tell those are both what is stated when you've seen a 'few'.
I prefer to call oosik the Eskimo whistle. And speaking of shady dealings since that doesn't really send this thread off the rails, we've even managed to capture a few classic portraits of said whistle being blown. It's a great way to test a person's sense of humor. Really... .......or not!
The same clown that mounted the winch on the Avalanche.
Oh look! It is the same fellow that spewed forth all the garbage on his and Marks winning team, Book it. And just like Mark, no facing up to his own failings. You think by the time Mark turns his life around we will see OkOk apologize to the members that are still waiting for him to face up to his posts during his teams run to nowhere?
Oh look! It is the same fellow that spewed forth all the garbage on his and Marks and Varmintgay's winning team, Book it. And just like Mark, no facing up to his own failings. You think by the time Mark turns his life around we will see OkOk apologize to the members that are still waiting for him to face up to his posts during his teams run to nowhere?
OhCock and Safariscam are cut from the same cloth. Book that!
Mark: Did you happen to list that firearm as an asset in your Chapter 7 Bankruptcy before you got your discharge on 02/17/2015? It would have been nice to use that money to pay your creditors.
Oh, schit. One would hope so. One would also hope that non-exempt titled assets, such as the fifth wheel trailer and Harley, were also listed. If not, that could be very, very bad.
Given the litany of "false statements", the financial shenanigans, and the host of loyal supporters despite obvious evidence, I have come to the conclusion that Safariman is in reality, Hillary Rodham Clinton.
How in the world does a person like Mark believe or think anyone will take anything serious that he post. I have never known a Scam Artist as openly Stupid as Mark Claiborne . He just never ceases to amaze me.
I wouldn't buy the last known glass of water from you.
Fine, but you are very much in the minority here. And wrong. I have had many, many deals (maybe hundreds over a ten year period) go very well with much happiness on both sides of the equation. Suit yourself.
I have done a deal with you, and never will again. It was the most PITA transaction I've ever had on any forum sale.
Have you figured out yet that shipping to an C&R FFL is illegal, or are you still giving the sob story that you can't afford the transfer fees?
I did not con anyone, every person got interest on thier money and it was safe. My error was not continuing to fight oregon DOI over what an 'appropriate' placement of an annuity was at the time I wrote the cases in question. No retirees were harmed and in fact they were materially helped. Your conning lie is getting pretty old, and is way wrong. Plus, this is not the place for that crap.
One of the keys to effective marketing is looking for an undisturbed un marketed to potential market. Might have found a way to do that here, and it was fun for all.
Originally Posted by safariman
Good to see an apology. Big of you and we'll see what kinds of things you come up with now.
Everyone deserves another chance or two.
ME? I have decided to not post while on Ambien. Said some odd stuff and non sensical semi sentences when posting while this nasty stuff was working its way into my brain. We all live and learn, including me.
Then this, I sure hope the money/scope found it's way, but I'm not liking the odds.
Some friends and I are helping a 100% disabled Viet Nam Vet get into a low recoil CF rifle to hunt deer with on his home place. Becasue his home state requires a caliber of 24 as a minimum and because of his injuries precluding any recoil we have obtained a Browning Semi Automatic (BAR)in 243. Should be pretty soft shooting. I hope to deliver his new rifle to him when I see him on about the 18th, but the supply of inexpensive used variable scopes over in classified seems to have temporarily dried up and the project has gone a bit over budget already when we saw the Browning BAR 243 and decided that our friend had to have it so we are in the hunt for something in the 3x-9x range of decent quality. Above Tasco/Simmons/BSA and Bubblepack Bushnell but not expecting anyone to give away a Nightforce or sell it to us for $100.00! Can spend SOME money, have some trade bait, particulary if one likes Barnes Bullets to put into a deal.
Let me know what you have, not asking neccesarily for a freebie as there is a bit of money available for a good deal on a low end Nikon or Vortex etc which would be fine for this guy.
PTSD afflicted and injured friend is adverse to any publicity so no names or pictures will be provided, unfortunately. If someone thinks I am snowing or scamming for a scope for myself then don't bother to reply here but I hope most here know that I have plenty of high end scopes and rifles of my own, and plenty enough to not stoop to such a post for my own benefit.
Thaks for looking and thinking of this, All the best as always,
MARK
I noticed that as well. This mashburn is sporting a Leupold 4.5-14, just like the one offered up by DPhillips in the scope for a PTSD Vet thread.
One of the keys to effective marketing is looking for an undisturbed un marketed to potential market. Might have found a way to do that here, and it was fun for all.
Originally Posted by safariman
Good to see an apology. Big of you and we'll see what kinds of things you come up with now.
Everyone deserves another chance or two.
ME? I have decided to not post while on Ambien. Said some odd stuff and non sensical semi sentences when posting while this nasty stuff was working its way into my brain. We all live and learn, including me.
Then this, I sure hope the money/scope found it's way, but I'm not liking the odds.
Some friends and I are helping a 100% disabled Viet Nam Vet get into a low recoil CF rifle to hunt deer with on his home place. Becasue his home state requires a caliber of 24 as a minimum and because of his injuries precluding any recoil we have obtained a Browning Semi Automatic (BAR)in 243. Should be pretty soft shooting. I hope to deliver his new rifle to him when I see him on about the 18th, but the supply of inexpensive used variable scopes over in classified seems to have temporarily dried up and the project has gone a bit over budget already when we saw the Browning BAR 243 and decided that our friend had to have it so we are in the hunt for something in the 3x-9x range of decent quality. Above Tasco/Simmons/BSA and Bubblepack Bushnell but not expecting anyone to give away a Nightforce or sell it to us for $100.00! Can spend SOME money, have some trade bait, particulary if one likes Barnes Bullets to put into a deal.
Let me know what you have, not asking neccesarily for a freebie as there is a bit of money available for a good deal on a low end Nikon or Vortex etc which would be fine for this guy.
PTSD afflicted and injured friend is adverse to any publicity so no names or pictures will be provided, unfortunately. If someone thinks I am snowing or scamming for a scope for myself then don't bother to reply here but I hope most here know that I have plenty of high end scopes and rifles of my own, and plenty enough to not stoop to such a post for my own benefit.
Thanks for looking and thinking of this, All the best as always,
MARK
I noticed that as well. This mashburn is sporting a Leupold 4.5-14, just like the one offered up by DPhillips in the scope for a PTSD Vet thread.
Didn't Mark recently post he has sold all but my "MUST NEVER SELL" guns to pay for his surgery? Like the Riihimaki double set gun I once was interested in and discussed in PM's with him....
What was the final verdict in the PTSD Vet gun post, did it ever get delivered, or was it "parted out for his own use"?
And with him going Chapter 7 in February of this year, I see more "discrepancies" in his posts.
And blaming a medicine for his odd posting, when his wife is fully capable to post "for him", doesn't pass the smell test. The more I read, the more I can't find anything besides greed in All of his posts.
I wonder if his "posting buddies" will stand up for him knowing he filed chapter 7 protection.
...This mashburn is sporting a Leupold 4.5-14, just like the one offered up by DPhillips in the scope for a PTSD Vet thread.
Oh man, are you serious?
From safariman's please-help-a-disabled-vet thread:
Originally Posted by safariman
Dphillips,
Considered and GLADLY accepted!
Too cool.
for the curious, Mr. Phillips is offfering a Leopold Vari X lll in 4.5-14! I am amazed and soooo excited, this option is Absolutely perfect, much more than what I was hoping for here... Once again, this place and especially Mr. Phillips goes above and beyond. Sometimes I can do these kinds of things on my own, this year and at this time I coulld not, needed a hand with a deed. Thanks again to everyone.
...This mashburn is sporting a Leupold 4.5-14, just like the one offered up by DPhillips in the scope for a PTSD Vet thread.
Oh man, are you serious?
From safariman's please-help-a-disabled-vet thread:
Originally Posted by safariman
Dphillips,
Considered and GLADLY accepted!
Too cool.
for the curious, Mr. Phillips is offfering a Leopold Vari X lll in 4.5-14! I am amazed and soooo excited, this option is Absolutely perfect, much more than what I was hoping for here... Once again, this place and especially Mr. Phillips goes above and beyond. Sometimes I can do these kinds of things on my own, this year and at this time I coulld not, needed a hand with a deed. Thanks again to everyone.
I said in my 'see ya'll a bit later' post that I would be checking and replying to PM's here a couple of times a day. Don't know why then that anyone would bet that I would not do so. And I have. We have another member who now needs a kidney transplant and he and I are visiting about that matter. And, I have a couple of trades that are finalizing and I need to stay in touch with the guys I owe stuff to and vice versa.
I have not read this whole thread, not going to. But a little bird told me that someone thought I had run off scared or some such. Nothing could be further from the truth. I am not afraid of any of you, here on the 'net nor in person.
Most may not believe this, and that is OK, but I do realize that I have made some real mistakes here and in my life. I truly am using the time that I am not here to do the soul searching that I said I would and asking THE great physician and the only one who can fix what ails me, for help in doing just that.
Sean, buddy, you are forgetting the many times that you saw me pray to begin a day of appointments that God would help me to be of a help and a blessing to all whom I came in contact with at the start of a business day. And the Bankers Life Magazine article where I stated and was quoted as telling others who wanted to be successful like I had been when they wrote about me that " You have to care more about the person across the table from you more than about yourself. If you are not about improving other people's lives and making thier dreams come true, then you are not worthy to have YOUR dreams and plans come true" And I meant that, and conducted myself in that fashion. And, FWIW Bankers is trying to recruit me back now that I will be able to work again soon. That some Oregon DOI employees thought differently is beyond my control right now. If I had not begun getting so sick so fast toward the end of my carreer and been able to financially as well as energy wise continue my fight with them I am certain that before a real judge and opportunity to see the wholle of the interviews that the DOI made (and was allowed to only cherry pick the worst parts in the 'hearing' with no opportunity for my attorney to see the whole or cross examine) we would have won, easily. The hard number rules of how much money, in % form, one could put into an annuity were not put into the DOI code until AFTER I wrote the annuities in question.
And Sean, you are forgetting for some reason how you credited me, after we had parted ways proffesionally, for your time spent in a church praying one afternoon. That, according to you, it was my influence in your life that led to that afternoons time. I hope that you are still allowing God to rule and run your life. Also, you never ONCE suggested that I was doing anything wrong in my business affairs with Bankers or my clients. And for good reson, I WASN'T. Yeah, an Oregon DOI employee found me to have lied to investigators, when they compared notes from over 6 years of questioning me and found discrepncies when i had to go from memory each and every time plus truly was becoming very ill and weak, but there is not any mention of anyone being financially harmed by following my recomendations because they were not. AND, amigo, you are forgetting the many times that you called me to THANK ME for getting you started with Bankers Life - where you DID and WERE selling the exact same annuities that I was- and for mentoring you by the telephone many, many times to help you get a good start in the business. I happily spent HOURS on the phone with you both coaching and encouraging you. And I do not regret one single minute of that even now. Also, when you got your big break to work for Johns-Hopkins (LONG after our business relationship had ended) you called me and thanked me AGAIN for getting you the start you needed which allowed you to have the right skillset and knowledge base that made you a good fit for your fund raising job. You might still be working there, I don't know. I DO know that the last time I called you to see how you were doing, you promised me a phone call that never came. You simply took a chickenshit way and started bad mouthing me from an new assumed name, without once telling me that you thought I had been wrong in any of my business matters, when I THOUGHT you were my friend. Just... wow.
I just remembered another double standard here. Remember when I called you from a gun shop in LaGrande Oregon? I was looking at an older Savage model 99 in 300 Savage which had a tang mounted peep sight for $400.00. YOU told me that I should buy it and then flip it here at 24hrcf. That the sight alone made it worth much more than the $400 price tag. So I did and it was. I have long ago now quit the gun flipping but you were a mentor and co conspiritor with me on that. And in fact the VERY FIRST internet firearms transaction I ever did was with you. The funny stocked pre-64 model 70 in 270WCF for your Rossi lever action in .454 Casull. I wish I still had that one!
Sean, You are forgetting a LOT of things about our friendship. And I don't know how you were raised, but in our world and in my family you do not live in a mans house (Our guest room and sometimes our travel trailer right next to the house, but eating and such here), eat at his table, go to his best varmint shooting and fishing spots as an invited guest and close friend and then without telling him become his arch enemy from the anonymiity of a new assumed name, and for YEARS now. At least without having the balls for and class to have a person to person conversation first with that freind who trusted you FIRST. Even if by phone or e-mail. It is just not done, if a man is a man of honor. Some would call that two faced, at a minimum.
But, FWIW, I forgive you completely and without reservation. And, I sincerely thank YOU for it was your signing that long diatribe against me that made me finally really take notice. I should have long before, perhaps, but I am only 55 and have a new lease on life for which I am truly grateful for to both God and my amazing cousin.
And, I really DO intend, plan on, focus toward etc. to make the second half or so of Mark / Safariman's life one that really truly honors God. And one that really counts for something in the eternal scheme of things. And THAT my friends, and only that, is why I am stepping back from here for a little bit. There really could be something wrong deep down that needs some significant work. I am open to the idea of that and will be exploring all the options and avenues of fixing and re building things.
To all who have made fun of my testimony as a Christian and a Gospel singer.... Steelhead especially, This is what pains me the most. I am so sorry that some of my actions have caused harm to come to the name of my Lord and Savior. You all cannot see into my heart of hearts, but I truly did genuinely care for and about not only my clients, and I did help them, but as best I could and can all with whom I come into contact. As for my clients, I would make the same recomendations to them if I was a third party giving advice to them without my name on any paperwork, even though Oregon DOI now has some really arbitrary and poorly thought out % maximums that did not exist when I wrote the annuities in question. More to the point, I really DO love God, and people. The best part of being in and out of Virginia Mason hospital for 6 weeks was the opportunity to spot hurting or worried people and pray with or for them.
As an Aside, THANK YOU MISS LYNN! For checking in on this point and confirming the reality of my hospitalization. and confirming the reality of my lovely bride, asphaltangel. I lover her SOOOO much....
I will post some photos from my surgery here when I come back, and of my Vietnam Vet freind enjoying his Browning semi auto 243 and Loopy scope - big grin on his face - when I do return here. And I shall return.
And I do love singing and giving God glory that HE deserves. And I am an unabashed evangalist (see the links to my ink, perhaps). Some think I am pretty good at it. I have never received a dime for any of this and I like it that way.
I will not be checking in back here to see what happens next in this thread, some of you if not most will continue to have your fun at my expense and I am fine with that. This is, after all, JUST the internet. In real life, and with the people who truly know me I am much liked and loved and THAT is what counts. As for here and for now, I am only going to keep communication going with the folks who I am PM'ing with and as I said before any or all of you are welcome to PM me and I will ad here that you are all invited to e-mail me at:
I'll be back sometime, but will not grab another assumed cybername. I will still be safariman. All will know who I am, and I am a man not afraid to face some personal demons and get 'em killed off, and will not take the cowards way of using some other name and hoping no one knows who I really am.
As well, I will not be one who percevorates over another persons presence here and stalks them and tries to hi jack their posts or threads. This place is supposed to be fun, and a place to talk about guns and politics and hunting and fishing and such. I remember when it was just that.
Whenever I return in full, I hope that I will be allowed to just be one of the posting members here, without the drama that none of us really needs and is not of a benefit to the campfire experience IMO.
Other than PM's or e-mails, I will see ya'll some time down the road.
Genuine wishes for Gods blessings upon you all,
Safariman
PS not going to do some stupid swan song post in the general campfire, either. Just be MIA for a while.
Don't be shocked. As many predicted, this sociopath is literally incapable of feeling guilt, shame or recognizes on any level that he's done any wrong whatsoever, and would be back in prime form soon enough. He actually believes his own lies and sleeps just fine, his conscience clear as a bell, I'm sure. It's everyone else, you see, that has him figured all wrong. He's just an honest, God fearing, poor soul trying to make an honest buck, like he deserves to.
Mark, I don't really harbor any hatred for you, because you're very seriously mentally ill. I can't even pity you though, since your illness manifests itself in your pathological lying, your stealing and taking advantage of others. With the understanding that perhaps some day maybe I'll pay penance for saying this, I believe the world would be a better place without you.
Don't be shocked. As many predicted, this sociopath is literally incapable of feeling guilt, shame or recognizes on any level that he's done any wrong whatsoever, and would be back in prime form soon enough. He actually believes his own lies and sleeps just fine, his conscience clear as a bell, I'm sure. It's everyone else, you see, that has him figured all wrong. He's just an honest, God fearing, poor soul trying to make an honest buck, like he deserves to.
Mark, I don't really harbor any hatred for you, because you're very seriously mentally ill. I can't even pity you though, since your illness manifests itself in your pathological lying, your stealing and taking advantage of others. With the understanding that perhaps some day maybe I'll pay penance for saying this, I believe the world would be a better place without you.
hell of a good summation.....his response is about what i figured it was gonna be.....as you point out it is the only one that could happen given his mental state....
That was some straight up Jimmy Swaggart scheit right there.
Bet he was sobbing and slobbering while in front of his screen and keyboard just like lil Jimmy did on TV!!! F*ckin worthless self absorbed POS!!!! Probably will hire Dana Carvey to be the 'Church Lady' so he can do his own SNL skit just like they did back then for Jimmy. Least that was funny, wouldn't be with numbnuts. Damn I still want to kick him in the nuts, partly for the pain it might inflict but also to hopefully guarantee the prick doesn't reproduce further!
Hey Mark, remember what I told you about yourself back several years ago? You PMed me wanting to "be friends" but then would post publicly how you told me off and make fun of me? That my two faced selfserving, selfabsorded narcissistic friend is why I am still asking MY LORD for the kick in the nuts favor! If he is willing to give you salvation after all your shananigans well look out, cause he will figure a way for me to get my prayer/wish/favor.
I thought he and the wife filed for bankruptcy, wonder why he did not mention that little tidbit, that is a point in ones life that you are starting over.
I thought he and the wife filed for bankruptcy, wonder why he did not mention that little tidbit, that is a point in ones life that you are starting over.
Sweet Mary of the Sacred Quartet, someone needed to capture His Word:
Originally Posted by safariman
HI everyone!
I said in my 'see ya'll a bit later' post that I would be checking and replying to PM's here a couple of times a day. Don't know why then that anyone would bet that I would not do so. And I have. We have another member who now needs a kidney transplant and he and I are visiting about that matter. And, I have a couple of trades that are finalizing and I need to stay in touch with the guys I owe stuff to and vice versa.
I have not read this whole thread, not going to. But a little bird told me that someone thought I had run off scared or some such. Nothing could be further from the truth. I am not afraid of any of you, here on the 'net nor in person.
Most may not believe this, and that is OK, but I do realize that I have made some real mistakes here and in my life. I truly am using the time that I am not here to do the soul searching that I said I would and asking THE great physician and the only one who can fix what ails me, for help in doing just that.
Sean, buddy, you are forgetting the many times that you saw me pray to begin a day of appointments that God would help me to be of a help and a blessing to all whom I came in contact with at the start of a business day. And the Bankers Life Magazine article where I stated and was quoted as telling others who wanted to be successful like I had been when they wrote about me that " You have to care more about the person across the table from you more than about yourself. If you are not about improving other people's lives and making thier dreams come true, then you are not worthy to have YOUR dreams and plans come true" And I meant that, and conducted myself in that fashion. And, FWIW Bankers is trying to recruit me back now that I will be able to work again soon. That some Oregon DOI employees thought differently is beyond my control right now. If I had not begun getting so sick so fast toward the end of my carreer and been able to financially as well as energy wise continue my fight with them I am certain that before a real judge and opportunity to see the wholle of the interviews that the DOI made (and was allowed to only cherry pick the worst parts in the 'hearing' with no opportunity for my attorney to see the whole or cross examine) we would have won, easily. The hard number rules of how much money, in % form, one could put into an annuity were not put into the DOI code until AFTER I wrote the annuities in question.
And Sean, you are forgetting for some reason how you credited me, after we had parted ways proffesionally, for your time spent in a church praying one afternoon. That, according to you, it was my influence in your life that led to that afternoons time. I hope that you are still allowing God to rule and run your life. Also, you never ONCE suggested that I was doing anything wrong in my business affairs with Bankers or my clients. And for good reson, I WASN'T. Yeah, an Oregon DOI employee found me to have lied to investigators, when they compared notes from over 6 years of questioning me and found discrepncies when i had to go from memory each and every time plus truly was becoming very ill and weak, but there is not any mention of anyone being financially harmed by following my recomendations because they were not. AND, amigo, you are forgetting the many times that you called me to THANK ME for getting you started with Bankers Life - where you DID and WERE selling the exact same annuities that I was- and for mentoring you by the telephone many, many times to help you get a good start in the business. I happily spent HOURS on the phone with you both coaching and encouraging you. And I do not regret one single minute of that even now. Also, when you got your big break to work for Johns-Hopkins (LONG after our business relationship had ended) you called me and thanked me AGAIN for getting you the start you needed which allowed you to have the right skillset and knowledge base that made you a good fit for your fund raising job. You might still be working there, I don't know. I DO know that the last time I called you to see how you were doing, you promised me a phone call that never came. You simply took a chickenshit way and started bad mouthing me from an new assumed name, without once telling me that you thought I had been wrong in any of my business matters, when I THOUGHT you were my friend. Just... wow.
I just remembered another double standard here. Remember when I called you from a gun shop in LaGrande Oregon? I was looking at an older Savage model 99 in 300 Savage which had a tang mounted peep sight for $400.00. YOU told me that I should buy it and then flip it here at 24hrcf. That the sight alone made it worth much more than the $400 price tag. So I did and it was. I have long ago now quit the gun flipping but you were a mentor and co conspiritor with me on that. And in fact the VERY FIRST internet firearms transaction I ever did was with you. The funny stocked pre-64 model 70 in 270WCF for your Rossi lever action in .454 Casull. I wish I still had that one!
Sean, You are forgetting a LOT of things about our friendship. And I don't know how you were raised, but in our world and in my family you do not live in a mans house (Our guest room and sometimes our travel trailer right next to the house, but eating and such here), eat at his table, go to his best varmint shooting and fishing spots as an invited guest and close friend and then without telling him become his arch enemy from the anonymiity of a new assumed name, and for YEARS now. At least without having the balls for and class to have a person to person conversation first with that freind who trusted you FIRST. Even if by phone or e-mail. It is just not done, if a man is a man of honor. Some would call that two faced, at a minimum.
But, FWIW, I forgive you completely and without reservation. And, I sincerely thank YOU for it was your signing that long diatribe against me that made me finally really take notice. I should have long before, perhaps, but I am only 55 and have a new lease on life for which I am truly grateful for to both God and my amazing cousin.
And, I really DO intend, plan on, focus toward etc. to make the second half or so of Mark / Safariman's life one that really truly honors God. And one that really counts for something in the eternal scheme of things. And THAT my friends, and only that, is why I am stepping back from here for a little bit. There really could be something wrong deep down that needs some significant work. I am open to the idea of that and will be exploring all the options and avenues of fixing and re building things.
To all who have made fun of my testimony as a Christian and a Gospel singer.... Steelhead especially, This is what pains me the most. I am so sorry that some of my actions have caused harm to come to the name of my Lord and Savior. You all cannot see into my heart of hearts, but I truly did genuinely care for and about not only my clients, and I did help them, but as best I could and can all with whom I come into contact. As for my clients, I would make the same recomendations to them if I was a third party giving advice to them without my name on any paperwork, even though Oregon DOI now has some really arbitrary and poorly thought out % maximums that did not exist when I wrote the annuities in question. More to the point, I really DO love God, and people. The best part of being in and out of Virginia Mason hospital for 6 weeks was the opportunity to spot hurting or worried people and pray with or for them.
As an Aside, THANK YOU MISS LYNN! For checking in on this point and confirming the reality of my hospitalization. and confirming the reality of my lovely bride, asphaltangel. I lover her SOOOO much....
I will post some photos from my surgery here when I come back, and of my Vietnam Vet freind enjoying his Browning semi auto 243 and Loopy scope - big grin on his face - when I do return here. And I shall return.
And I do love singing and giving God glory that HE deserves. And I am an unabashed evangalist (see the links to my ink, perhaps). Some think I am pretty good at it. I have never received a dime for any of this and I like it that way.
I will not be checking in back here to see what happens next in this thread, some of you if not most will continue to have your fun at my expense and I am fine with that. This is, after all, JUST the internet. In real life, and with the people who truly know me I am much liked and loved and THAT is what counts. As for here and for now, I am only going to keep communication going with the folks who I am PM'ing with and as I said before any or all of you are welcome to PM me and I will ad here that you are all invited to e-mail me at:
I'll be back sometime, but will not grab another assumed cybername. I will still be safariman. All will know who I am, and I am a man not afraid to face some personal demons and get 'em killed off, and will not take the cowards way of using some other name and hoping no one knows who I really am.
As well, I will not be one who percevorates over another persons presence here and stalks them and tries to hi jack their posts or threads. This place is supposed to be fun, and a place to talk about guns and politics and hunting and fishing and such. I remember when it was just that.
Whenever I return in full, I hope that I will be allowed to just be one of the posting members here, without the drama that none of us really needs and is not of a benefit to the campfire experience IMO.
Other than PM's or e-mails, I will see ya'll some time down the road.
Genuine wishes for Gods blessings upon you all,
Safariman
PS not going to do some stupid swan song post in the general campfire, either. Just be MIA for a while.
2/17/2015 23 Close Bankruptcy Case - Final Decree (text entry) 12/23/2014 22 Received Unsigned Order 12/16/2014 21 Received Unsigned Order 12/16/2014 20 Enlarge Time to File Reaffirmation Agreement 12/14/2014 19 BNC Certificate of Mailing - Discharge of Debtor 12/11/2014 18 Automatic Discharge of Debtor (ch 7)
Doesn't look like the "Mashburn" or other items were exempt from the bankruptcy.
The Washington State bankruptcy exemptions include: • $125,000 in equity in your home; • $2,500 in equity in your car; • $2,700 total in household goods; • $5,000 in things you need for your job (tools, books, etc.); • $2,000 “wildcard” exemption
The trustee of case number . 2:14-bk-02705
would be able to answer these questions if you are considering purchasing items that you may question.
JOHN D. MUNDING 1610 W. Riverside Avenue Spokane, WA 99201 (509) 624-6464
I stand corrected if this is a definitive, scientifically proven diagnostic trait:
"It is interesting to note that although the scammer is a sharp-witted liar..."
That bumbling, ridiculously transparent, bush league dolt of a con man ain't anything of the sort. Not even in the same universe as 'sharp-witted'. Sheeeit.
Guys, could we let this thing die? It's an awful indictment on the campfire. powdr
Doubtful a lot of pissed off guys here that were taking for a ride. When people brought up bad deals with SM most assumed it was the "other" guy being the ass not SM. Guys took up donations sent money to a pay pal acct for him no telling how much was dumped in their. People donating scopes, binoculars and cash for a Vet friend of his. Hell seafire bailed him out of that deal on the ruger charger you don't see seafire coming to his defense and I think seafire is one the good guys he's truly helped out some Soldier's. I can tell you I have sent SM bullets for this super fast 7mm he just sold, 139 GMX I had a bunch of them. I took nothing for them. But I don't think he can comprehend being a good guy helping folks out just because. He always wanted to do some horse trading. I told him nope I'm good I don't need anything for them. What probably burns these guys up the most they are grown men and they were hustled by SM.
I said in my 'see ya'll a bit later' post that I would be checking and replying to PM's here a couple of times a day. Don't know why then that anyone would bet that I would not do so. And I have. We have another member who now needs a kidney transplant and he and I are visiting about that matter. And, I have a couple of trades that are finalizing and I need to stay in touch with the guys I owe stuff to and vice versa.
I have not read this whole thread, not going to. But a little bird told me that someone thought I had run off scared or some such. Nothing could be further from the truth. I am not afraid of any of you, here on the 'net nor in person.
Most may not believe this, and that is OK, but I do realize that I have made some real mistakes here and in my life. I truly am using the time that I am not here to do the soul searching that I said I would and asking THE great physician and the only one who can fix what ails me, for help in doing just that.
Sean, buddy, you are forgetting the many times that you saw me pray to begin a day of appointments that God would help me to be of a help and a blessing to all whom I came in contact with at the start of a business day. And the Bankers Life Magazine article where I stated and was quoted as telling others who wanted to be successful like I had been when they wrote about me that " You have to care more about the person across the table from you more than about yourself. If you are not about improving other people's lives and making thier dreams come true, then you are not worthy to have YOUR dreams and plans come true" And I meant that, and conducted myself in that fashion. And, FWIW Bankers is trying to recruit me back now that I will be able to work again soon. That some Oregon DOI employees thought differently is beyond my control right now. If I had not begun getting so sick so fast toward the end of my carreer and been able to financially as well as energy wise continue my fight with them I am certain that before a real judge and opportunity to see the wholle of the interviews that the DOI made (and was allowed to only cherry pick the worst parts in the 'hearing' with no opportunity for my attorney to see the whole or cross examine) we would have won, easily. The hard number rules of how much money, in % form, one could put into an annuity were not put into the DOI code until AFTER I wrote the annuities in question.
And Sean, you are forgetting for some reason how you credited me, after we had parted ways proffesionally, for your time spent in a church praying one afternoon. That, according to you, it was my influence in your life that led to that afternoons time. I hope that you are still allowing God to rule and run your life. Also, you never ONCE suggested that I was doing anything wrong in my business affairs with Bankers or my clients. And for good reson, I WASN'T. Yeah, an Oregon DOI employee found me to have lied to investigators, when they compared notes from over 6 years of questioning me and found discrepncies when i had to go from memory each and every time plus truly was becoming very ill and weak, but there is not any mention of anyone being financially harmed by following my recomendations because they were not. AND, amigo, you are forgetting the many times that you called me to THANK ME for getting you started with Bankers Life - where you DID and WERE selling the exact same annuities that I was- and for mentoring you by the telephone many, many times to help you get a good start in the business. I happily spent HOURS on the phone with you both coaching and encouraging you. And I do not regret one single minute of that even now. Also, when you got your big break to work for Johns-Hopkins (LONG after our business relationship had ended) you called me and thanked me AGAIN for getting you the start you needed which allowed you to have the right skillset and knowledge base that made you a good fit for your fund raising job. You might still be working there, I don't know. I DO know that the last time I called you to see how you were doing, you promised me a phone call that never came. You simply took a chickenshit way and started bad mouthing me from an new assumed name, without once telling me that you thought I had been wrong in any of my business matters, when I THOUGHT you were my friend. Just... wow.
I just remembered another double standard here. Remember when I called you from a gun shop in LaGrande Oregon? I was looking at an older Savage model 99 in 300 Savage which had a tang mounted peep sight for $400.00. YOU told me that I should buy it and then flip it here at 24hrcf. That the sight alone made it worth much more than the $400 price tag. So I did and it was. I have long ago now quit the gun flipping but you were a mentor and co conspiritor with me on that. And in fact the VERY FIRST internet firearms transaction I ever did was with you. The funny stocked pre-64 model 70 in 270WCF for your Rossi lever action in .454 Casull. I wish I still had that one!
Sean, You are forgetting a LOT of things about our friendship. And I don't know how you were raised, but in our world and in my family you do not live in a mans house (Our guest room and sometimes our travel trailer right next to the house, but eating and such here), eat at his table, go to his best varmint shooting and fishing spots as an invited guest and close friend and then without telling him become his arch enemy from the anonymiity of a new assumed name, and for YEARS now. At least without having the balls for and class to have a person to person conversation first with that freind who trusted you FIRST. Even if by phone or e-mail. It is just not done, if a man is a man of honor. Some would call that two faced, at a minimum.
But, FWIW, I forgive you completely and without reservation. And, I sincerely thank YOU for it was your signing that long diatribe against me that made me finally really take notice. I should have long before, perhaps, but I am only 55 and have a new lease on life for which I am truly grateful for to both God and my amazing cousin.
And, I really DO intend, plan on, focus toward etc. to make the second half or so of Mark / Safariman's life one that really truly honors God. And one that really counts for something in the eternal scheme of things. And THAT my friends, and only that, is why I am stepping back from here for a little bit. There really could be something wrong deep down that needs some significant work. I am open to the idea of that and will be exploring all the options and avenues of fixing and re building things.
To all who have made fun of my testimony as a Christian and a Gospel singer.... Steelhead especially, This is what pains me the most. I am so sorry that some of my actions have caused harm to come to the name of my Lord and Savior. You all cannot see into my heart of hearts, but I truly did genuinely care for and about not only my clients, and I did help them, but as best I could and can all with whom I come into contact. As for my clients, I would make the same recomendations to them if I was a third party giving advice to them without my name on any paperwork, even though Oregon DOI now has some really arbitrary and poorly thought out % maximums that did not exist when I wrote the annuities in question. More to the point, I really DO love God, and people. The best part of being in and out of Virginia Mason hospital for 6 weeks was the opportunity to spot hurting or worried people and pray with or for them.
As an Aside, THANK YOU MISS LYNN! For checking in on this point and confirming the reality of my hospitalization. and confirming the reality of my lovely bride, asphaltangel. I lover her SOOOO much....
I will post some photos from my surgery here when I come back, and of my Vietnam Vet freind enjoying his Browning semi auto 243 and Loopy scope - big grin on his face - when I do return here. And I shall return.
And I do love singing and giving God glory that HE deserves. And I am an unabashed evangalist (see the links to my ink, perhaps). Some think I am pretty good at it. I have never received a dime for any of this and I like it that way.
I will not be checking in back here to see what happens next in this thread, some of you if not most will continue to have your fun at my expense and I am fine with that. This is, after all, JUST the internet. In real life, and with the people who truly know me I am much liked and loved and THAT is what counts. As for here and for now, I am only going to keep communication going with the folks who I am PM'ing with and as I said before any or all of you are welcome to PM me and I will ad here that you are all invited to e-mail me at:
I'll be back sometime, but will not grab another assumed cybername. I will still be safariman. All will know who I am, and I am a man not afraid to face some personal demons and get 'em killed off, and will not take the cowards way of using some other name and hoping no one knows who I really am.
As well, I will not be one who percevorates over another persons presence here and stalks them and tries to hi jack their posts or threads. This place is supposed to be fun, and a place to talk about guns and politics and hunting and fishing and such. I remember when it was just that.
Whenever I return in full, I hope that I will be allowed to just be one of the posting members here, without the drama that none of us really needs and is not of a benefit to the campfire experience IMO.
Other than PM's or e-mails, I will see ya'll some time down the road.
Genuine wishes for Gods blessings upon you all,
Safariman
PS not going to do some stupid swan song post in the general campfire, either. Just be MIA for a while.
Dude, give it a fuggin rest.
You are about as Christian as a fuggin cinder block. And almost as intelligent.
You're a straight up con-man. Using God as nothing more than a criminal intrument.
I said in my 'see ya'll a bit later' post that I would be checking and replying to PM's here a couple of times a day. Don't know why then that anyone would bet that I would not do so. And I have. We have another member who now needs a kidney transplant and he and I are visiting about that matter. And, I have a couple of trades that are finalizing and I need to stay in touch with the guys I owe stuff to and vice versa.
I have not read this whole thread, not going to. But a little bird told me that someone thought I had run off scared or some such. Nothing could be further from the truth. I am not afraid of any of you, here on the 'net nor in person.
Most may not believe this, and that is OK, but I do realize that I have made some real mistakes here and in my life. I truly am using the time that I am not here to do the soul searching that I said I would and asking THE great physician and the only one who can fix what ails me, for help in doing just that.
Sean, buddy, you are forgetting the many times that you saw me pray to begin a day of appointments that God would help me to be of a help and a blessing to all whom I came in contact with at the start of a business day. And the Bankers Life Magazine article where I stated and was quoted as telling others who wanted to be successful like I had been when they wrote about me that " You have to care more about the person across the table from you more than about yourself. If you are not about improving other people's lives and making thier dreams come true, then you are not worthy to have YOUR dreams and plans come true" And I meant that, and conducted myself in that fashion. And, FWIW Bankers is trying to recruit me back now that I will be able to work again soon. That some Oregon DOI employees thought differently is beyond my control right now. If I had not begun getting so sick so fast toward the end of my carreer and been able to financially as well as energy wise continue my fight with them I am certain that before a real judge and opportunity to see the wholle of the interviews that the DOI made (and was allowed to only cherry pick the worst parts in the 'hearing' with no opportunity for my attorney to see the whole or cross examine) we would have won, easily. The hard number rules of how much money, in % form, one could put into an annuity were not put into the DOI code until AFTER I wrote the annuities in question.
And Sean, you are forgetting for some reason how you credited me, after we had parted ways proffesionally, for your time spent in a church praying one afternoon. That, according to you, it was my influence in your life that led to that afternoons time. I hope that you are still allowing God to rule and run your life. Also, you never ONCE suggested that I was doing anything wrong in my business affairs with Bankers or my clients. And for good reson, I WASN'T. Yeah, an Oregon DOI employee found me to have lied to investigators, when they compared notes from over 6 years of questioning me and found discrepncies when i had to go from memory each and every time plus truly was becoming very ill and weak, but there is not any mention of anyone being financially harmed by following my recomendations because they were not. AND, amigo, you are forgetting the many times that you called me to THANK ME for getting you started with Bankers Life - where you DID and WERE selling the exact same annuities that I was- and for mentoring you by the telephone many, many times to help you get a good start in the business. I happily spent HOURS on the phone with you both coaching and encouraging you. And I do not regret one single minute of that even now. Also, when you got your big break to work for Johns-Hopkins (LONG after our business relationship had ended) you called me and thanked me AGAIN for getting you the start you needed which allowed you to have the right skillset and knowledge base that made you a good fit for your fund raising job. You might still be working there, I don't know. I DO know that the last time I called you to see how you were doing, you promised me a phone call that never came. You simply took a chickenshit way and started bad mouthing me from an new assumed name, without once telling me that you thought I had been wrong in any of my business matters, when I THOUGHT you were my friend. Just... wow.
I just remembered another double standard here. Remember when I called you from a gun shop in LaGrande Oregon? I was looking at an older Savage model 99 in 300 Savage which had a tang mounted peep sight for $400.00. YOU told me that I should buy it and then flip it here at 24hrcf. That the sight alone made it worth much more than the $400 price tag. So I did and it was. I have long ago now quit the gun flipping but you were a mentor and co conspiritor with me on that. And in fact the VERY FIRST internet firearms transaction I ever did was with you. The funny stocked pre-64 model 70 in 270WCF for your Rossi lever action in .454 Casull. I wish I still had that one!
Sean, You are forgetting a LOT of things about our friendship. And I don't know how you were raised, but in our world and in my family you do not live in a mans house (Our guest room and sometimes our travel trailer right next to the house, but eating and such here), eat at his table, go to his best varmint shooting and fishing spots as an invited guest and close friend and then without telling him become his arch enemy from the anonymiity of a new assumed name, and for YEARS now. At least without having the balls for and class to have a person to person conversation first with that freind who trusted you FIRST. Even if by phone or e-mail. It is just not done, if a man is a man of honor. Some would call that two faced, at a minimum.
But, FWIW, I forgive you completely and without reservation. And, I sincerely thank YOU for it was your signing that long diatribe against me that made me finally really take notice. I should have long before, perhaps, but I am only 55 and have a new lease on life for which I am truly grateful for to both God and my amazing cousin.
And, I really DO intend, plan on, focus toward etc. to make the second half or so of Mark / Safariman's life one that really truly honors God. And one that really counts for something in the eternal scheme of things. And THAT my friends, and only that, is why I am stepping back from here for a little bit. There really could be something wrong deep down that needs some significant work. I am open to the idea of that and will be exploring all the options and avenues of fixing and re building things.
To all who have made fun of my testimony as a Christian and a Gospel singer.... Steelhead especially, This is what pains me the most. I am so sorry that some of my actions have caused harm to come to the name of my Lord and Savior. You all cannot see into my heart of hearts, but I truly did genuinely care for and about not only my clients, and I did help them, but as best I could and can all with whom I come into contact. As for my clients, I would make the same recomendations to them if I was a third party giving advice to them without my name on any paperwork, even though Oregon DOI now has some really arbitrary and poorly thought out % maximums that did not exist when I wrote the annuities in question. More to the point, I really DO love God, and people. The best part of being in and out of Virginia Mason hospital for 6 weeks was the opportunity to spot hurting or worried people and pray with or for them.
As an Aside, THANK YOU MISS LYNN! For checking in on this point and confirming the reality of my hospitalization. and confirming the reality of my lovely bride, asphaltangel. I lover her SOOOO much....
I will post some photos from my surgery here when I come back, and of my Vietnam Vet freind enjoying his Browning semi auto 243 and Loopy scope - big grin on his face - when I do return here. And I shall return.
And I do love singing and giving God glory that HE deserves. And I am an unabashed evangalist (see the links to my ink, perhaps). Some think I am pretty good at it. I have never received a dime for any of this and I like it that way.
I will not be checking in back here to see what happens next in this thread, some of you if not most will continue to have your fun at my expense and I am fine with that. This is, after all, JUST the internet. In real life, and with the people who truly know me I am much liked and loved and THAT is what counts. As for here and for now, I am only going to keep communication going with the folks who I am PM'ing with and as I said before any or all of you are welcome to PM me and I will ad here that you are all invited to e-mail me at:
I'll be back sometime, but will not grab another assumed cybername. I will still be safariman. All will know who I am, and I am a man not afraid to face some personal demons and get 'em killed off, and will not take the cowards way of using some other name and hoping no one knows who I really am.
As well, I will not be one who percevorates over another persons presence here and stalks them and tries to hi jack their posts or threads. This place is supposed to be fun, and a place to talk about guns and politics and hunting and fishing and such. I remember when it was just that.
Whenever I return in full, I hope that I will be allowed to just be one of the posting members here, without the drama that none of us really needs and is not of a benefit to the campfire experience IMO.
Other than PM's or e-mails, I will see ya'll some time down the road.
Genuine wishes for Gods blessings upon you all,
Safariman
PS not going to do some stupid swan song post in the general campfire, either. Just be MIA for a while.
Man you need to see a wizard asap! In case your all wondering what I mean by wizard he needs to see a psychiatrist...
I said in my 'see ya'll a bit later' post that I would be checking and replying to PM's here a couple of times a day. Don't know why then that anyone would bet that I would not do so. And I have. We have another member who now needs a kidney transplant and he and I are visiting about that matter. And, I have a couple of trades that are finalizing and I need to stay in touch with the guys I owe stuff to and vice versa.
I have not read this whole thread, not going to. But a little bird told me that someone thought I had run off scared or some such. Nothing could be further from the truth. I am not afraid of any of you, here on the 'net nor in person.
Most may not believe this, and that is OK, but I do realize that I have made some real mistakes here and in my life. I truly am using the time that I am not here to do the soul searching that I said I would and asking THE great physician and the only one who can fix what ails me, for help in doing just that.
Sean, buddy, you are forgetting the many times that you saw me pray to begin a day of appointments that God would help me to be of a help and a blessing to all whom I came in contact with at the start of a business day. And the Bankers Life Magazine article where I stated and was quoted as telling others who wanted to be successful like I had been when they wrote about me that " You have to care more about the person across the table from you more than about yourself. If you are not about improving other people's lives and making thier dreams come true, then you are not worthy to have YOUR dreams and plans come true" And I meant that, and conducted myself in that fashion. And, FWIW Bankers is trying to recruit me back now that I will be able to work again soon. That some Oregon DOI employees thought differently is beyond my control right now. If I had not begun getting so sick so fast toward the end of my carreer and been able to financially as well as energy wise continue my fight with them I am certain that before a real judge and opportunity to see the wholle of the interviews that the DOI made (and was allowed to only cherry pick the worst parts in the 'hearing' with no opportunity for my attorney to see the whole or cross examine) we would have won, easily. The hard number rules of how much money, in % form, one could put into an annuity were not put into the DOI code until AFTER I wrote the annuities in question.
And Sean, you are forgetting for some reason how you credited me, after we had parted ways proffesionally, for your time spent in a church praying one afternoon. That, according to you, it was my influence in your life that led to that afternoons time. I hope that you are still allowing God to rule and run your life. Also, you never ONCE suggested that I was doing anything wrong in my business affairs with Bankers or my clients. And for good reson, I WASN'T. Yeah, an Oregon DOI employee found me to have lied to investigators, when they compared notes from over 6 years of questioning me and found discrepncies when i had to go from memory each and every time plus truly was becoming very ill and weak, but there is not any mention of anyone being financially harmed by following my recomendations because they were not. AND, amigo, you are forgetting the many times that you called me to THANK ME for getting you started with Bankers Life - where you DID and WERE selling the exact same annuities that I was- and for mentoring you by the telephone many, many times to help you get a good start in the business. I happily spent HOURS on the phone with you both coaching and encouraging you. And I do not regret one single minute of that even now. Also, when you got your big break to work for Johns-Hopkins (LONG after our business relationship had ended) you called me and thanked me AGAIN for getting you the start you needed which allowed you to have the right skillset and knowledge base that made you a good fit for your fund raising job. You might still be working there, I don't know. I DO know that the last time I called you to see how you were doing, you promised me a phone call that never came. You simply took a chickenshit way and started bad mouthing me from an new assumed name, without once telling me that you thought I had been wrong in any of my business matters, when I THOUGHT you were my friend. Just... wow.
I just remembered another double standard here. Remember when I called you from a gun shop in LaGrande Oregon? I was looking at an older Savage model 99 in 300 Savage which had a tang mounted peep sight for $400.00. YOU told me that I should buy it and then flip it here at 24hrcf. That the sight alone made it worth much more than the $400 price tag. So I did and it was. I have long ago now quit the gun flipping but you were a mentor and co conspiritor with me on that. And in fact the VERY FIRST internet firearms transaction I ever did was with you. The funny stocked pre-64 model 70 in 270WCF for your Rossi lever action in .454 Casull. I wish I still had that one!
Sean, You are forgetting a LOT of things about our friendship. And I don't know how you were raised, but in our world and in my family you do not live in a mans house (Our guest room and sometimes our travel trailer right next to the house, but eating and such here), eat at his table, go to his best varmint shooting and fishing spots as an invited guest and close friend and then without telling him become his arch enemy from the anonymiity of a new assumed name, and for YEARS now. At least without having the balls for and class to have a person to person conversation first with that freind who trusted you FIRST. Even if by phone or e-mail. It is just not done, if a man is a man of honor. Some would call that two faced, at a minimum.
But, FWIW, I forgive you completely and without reservation. And, I sincerely thank YOU for it was your signing that long diatribe against me that made me finally really take notice. I should have long before, perhaps, but I am only 55 and have a new lease on life for which I am truly grateful for to both God and my amazing cousin.
And, I really DO intend, plan on, focus toward etc. to make the second half or so of Mark / Safariman's life one that really truly honors God. And one that really counts for something in the eternal scheme of things. And THAT my friends, and only that, is why I am stepping back from here for a little bit. There really could be something wrong deep down that needs some significant work. I am open to the idea of that and will be exploring all the options and avenues of fixing and re building things.
To all who have made fun of my testimony as a Christian and a Gospel singer.... Steelhead especially, This is what pains me the most. I am so sorry that some of my actions have caused harm to come to the name of my Lord and Savior. You all cannot see into my heart of hearts, but I truly did genuinely care for and about not only my clients, and I did help them, but as best I could and can all with whom I come into contact. As for my clients, I would make the same recomendations to them if I was a third party giving advice to them without my name on any paperwork, even though Oregon DOI now has some really arbitrary and poorly thought out % maximums that did not exist when I wrote the annuities in question. More to the point, I really DO love God, and people. The best part of being in and out of Virginia Mason hospital for 6 weeks was the opportunity to spot hurting or worried people and pray with or for them.
As an Aside, THANK YOU MISS LYNN! For checking in on this point and confirming the reality of my hospitalization. and confirming the reality of my lovely bride, asphaltangel. I lover her SOOOO much....
I will post some photos from my surgery here when I come back, and of my Vietnam Vet freind enjoying his Browning semi auto 243 and Loopy scope - big grin on his face - when I do return here. And I shall return.
And I do love singing and giving God glory that HE deserves. And I am an unabashed evangalist (see the links to my ink, perhaps). Some think I am pretty good at it. I have never received a dime for any of this and I like it that way.
I will not be checking in back here to see what happens next in this thread, some of you if not most will continue to have your fun at my expense and I am fine with that. This is, after all, JUST the internet. In real life, and with the people who truly know me I am much liked and loved and THAT is what counts. As for here and for now, I am only going to keep communication going with the folks who I am PM'ing with and as I said before any or all of you are welcome to PM me and I will ad here that you are all invited to e-mail me at:
I'll be back sometime, but will not grab another assumed cybername. I will still be safariman. All will know who I am, and I am a man not afraid to face some personal demons and get 'em killed off, and will not take the cowards way of using some other name and hoping no one knows who I really am.
As well, I will not be one who percevorates over another persons presence here and stalks them and tries to hi jack their posts or threads. This place is supposed to be fun, and a place to talk about guns and politics and hunting and fishing and such. I remember when it was just that.
Whenever I return in full, I hope that I will be allowed to just be one of the posting members here, without the drama that none of us really needs and is not of a benefit to the campfire experience IMO.
Other than PM's or e-mails, I will see ya'll some time down the road.
Genuine wishes for Gods blessings upon you all,
Safariman
PS not going to do some stupid swan song post in the general campfire, either. Just be MIA for a while.
Dude, give it a fuggin rest.
You are about as Christian as a fuggin cinder block. And almost as intelligent.
You're a straight up con-man. Using God as nothing more than a criminal intrument.
Given the litany of "false statements", the financial shenanigans, and the host of loyal supporters despite obvious evidence, I have come to the conclusion that Safariman is in reality, Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Now you know why she had her own email server.
To handle the 24hourcampfire scam-a-thon.
How's the wife and step kids? Remember to log out next go-round so she can't see/read your posts.
I stand corrected if this is a definitive, scientifically proven diagnostic trait:
"It is interesting to note that although the scammer is a sharp-witted liar..."
That bumbling, ridiculously transparent, bush league dolt of a con man ain't anything of the sort. Not even in the same universe as 'sharp-witted'. Sheeeit.
Yeah,...but they're addicted to the game regardless of their level of expertise.
I said in my 'see ya'll a bit later' post that I would be checking and replying to PM's here a couple of times a day. Don't know why then that anyone would bet that I would not do so. And I have. We have another member who now needs a kidney transplant and he and I are visiting about that matter. And, I have a couple of trades that are finalizing and I need to stay in touch with the guys I owe stuff to and vice versa.
I have not read this whole thread, not going to. But a little bird told me that someone thought I had run off scared or some such. Nothing could be further from the truth. I am not afraid of any of you, here on the 'net nor in person.
Most may not believe this, and that is OK, but I do realize that I have made some real mistakes here and in my life. I truly am using the time that I am not here to do the soul searching that I said I would and asking THE great physician and the only one who can fix what ails me, for help in doing just that.
Sean, buddy, you are forgetting the many times that you saw me pray to begin a day of appointments that God would help me to be of a help and a blessing to all whom I came in contact with at the start of a business day. And the Bankers Life Magazine article where I stated and was quoted as telling others who wanted to be successful like I had been when they wrote about me that " You have to care more about the person across the table from you more than about yourself. If you are not about improving other people's lives and making thier dreams come true, then you are not worthy to have YOUR dreams and plans come true" And I meant that, and conducted myself in that fashion. And, FWIW Bankers is trying to recruit me back now that I will be able to work again soon. That some Oregon DOI employees thought differently is beyond my control right now. If I had not begun getting so sick so fast toward the end of my carreer and been able to financially as well as energy wise continue my fight with them I am certain that before a real judge and opportunity to see the wholle of the interviews that the DOI made (and was allowed to only cherry pick the worst parts in the 'hearing' with no opportunity for my attorney to see the whole or cross examine) we would have won, easily. The hard number rules of how much money, in % form, one could put into an annuity were not put into the DOI code until AFTER I wrote the annuities in question.
And Sean, you are forgetting for some reason how you credited me, after we had parted ways proffesionally, for your time spent in a church praying one afternoon. That, according to you, it was my influence in your life that led to that afternoons time. I hope that you are still allowing God to rule and run your life. Also, you never ONCE suggested that I was doing anything wrong in my business affairs with Bankers or my clients. And for good reson, I WASN'T. Yeah, an Oregon DOI employee found me to have lied to investigators, when they compared notes from over 6 years of questioning me and found discrepncies when i had to go from memory each and every time plus truly was becoming very ill and weak, but there is not any mention of anyone being financially harmed by following my recomendations because they were not. AND, amigo, you are forgetting the many times that you called me to THANK ME for getting you started with Bankers Life - where you DID and WERE selling the exact same annuities that I was- and for mentoring you by the telephone many, many times to help you get a good start in the business. I happily spent HOURS on the phone with you both coaching and encouraging you. And I do not regret one single minute of that even now. Also, when you got your big break to work for Johns-Hopkins (LONG after our business relationship had ended) you called me and thanked me AGAIN for getting you the start you needed which allowed you to have the right skillset and knowledge base that made you a good fit for your fund raising job. You might still be working there, I don't know. I DO know that the last time I called you to see how you were doing, you promised me a phone call that never came. You simply took a chickenshit way and started bad mouthing me from an new assumed name, without once telling me that you thought I had been wrong in any of my business matters, when I THOUGHT you were my friend. Just... wow.
I just remembered another double standard here. Remember when I called you from a gun shop in LaGrande Oregon? I was looking at an older Savage model 99 in 300 Savage which had a tang mounted peep sight for $400.00. YOU told me that I should buy it and then flip it here at 24hrcf. That the sight alone made it worth much more than the $400 price tag. So I did and it was. I have long ago now quit the gun flipping but you were a mentor and co conspiritor with me on that. And in fact the VERY FIRST internet firearms transaction I ever did was with you. The funny stocked pre-64 model 70 in 270WCF for your Rossi lever action in .454 Casull. I wish I still had that one!
Sean, You are forgetting a LOT of things about our friendship. And I don't know how you were raised, but in our world and in my family you do not live in a mans house (Our guest room and sometimes our travel trailer right next to the house, but eating and such here), eat at his table, go to his best varmint shooting and fishing spots as an invited guest and close friend and then without telling him become his arch enemy from the anonymiity of a new assumed name, and for YEARS now. At least without having the balls for and class to have a person to person conversation first with that freind who trusted you FIRST. Even if by phone or e-mail. It is just not done, if a man is a man of honor. Some would call that two faced, at a minimum.
But, FWIW, I forgive you completely and without reservation. And, I sincerely thank YOU for it was your signing that long diatribe against me that made me finally really take notice. I should have long before, perhaps, but I am only 55 and have a new lease on life for which I am truly grateful for to both God and my amazing cousin.
And, I really DO intend, plan on, focus toward etc. to make the second half or so of Mark / Safariman's life one that really truly honors God. And one that really counts for something in the eternal scheme of things. And THAT my friends, and only that, is why I am stepping back from here for a little bit. There really could be something wrong deep down that needs some significant work. I am open to the idea of that and will be exploring all the options and avenues of fixing and re building things.
To all who have made fun of my testimony as a Christian and a Gospel singer.... Steelhead especially, This is what pains me the most. I am so sorry that some of my actions have caused harm to come to the name of my Lord and Savior. You all cannot see into my heart of hearts, but I truly did genuinely care for and about not only my clients, and I did help them, but as best I could and can all with whom I come into contact. As for my clients, I would make the same recomendations to them if I was a third party giving advice to them without my name on any paperwork, even though Oregon DOI now has some really arbitrary and poorly thought out % maximums that did not exist when I wrote the annuities in question. More to the point, I really DO love God, and people. The best part of being in and out of Virginia Mason hospital for 6 weeks was the opportunity to spot hurting or worried people and pray with or for them.
As an Aside, THANK YOU MISS LYNN! For checking in on this point and confirming the reality of my hospitalization. and confirming the reality of my lovely bride, asphaltangel. I lover her SOOOO much....
I will post some photos from my surgery here when I come back, and of my Vietnam Vet freind enjoying his Browning semi auto 243 and Loopy scope - big grin on his face - when I do return here. And I shall return.
And I do love singing and giving God glory that HE deserves. And I am an unabashed evangalist (see the links to my ink, perhaps). Some think I am pretty good at it. I have never received a dime for any of this and I like it that way.
I will not be checking in back here to see what happens next in this thread, some of you if not most will continue to have your fun at my expense and I am fine with that. This is, after all, JUST the internet. In real life, and with the people who truly know me I am much liked and loved and THAT is what counts. As for here and for now, I am only going to keep communication going with the folks who I am PM'ing with and as I said before any or all of you are welcome to PM me and I will ad here that you are all invited to e-mail me at:
I'll be back sometime, but will not grab another assumed cybername. I will still be safariman. All will know who I am, and I am a man not afraid to face some personal demons and get 'em killed off, and will not take the cowards way of using some other name and hoping no one knows who I really am.
As well, I will not be one who percevorates over another persons presence here and stalks them and tries to hi jack their posts or threads. This place is supposed to be fun, and a place to talk about guns and politics and hunting and fishing and such. I remember when it was just that.
Whenever I return in full, I hope that I will be allowed to just be one of the posting members here, without the drama that none of us really needs and is not of a benefit to the campfire experience IMO.
Other than PM's or e-mails, I will see ya'll some time down the road.
Genuine wishes for Gods blessings upon you all,
Safariman
PS not going to do some stupid swan song post in the general campfire, either. Just be MIA for a while.
Man you need to see a wizard asap! In case your all wondering what I mean by wizard he needs to see a psychiatrist...
SM, you didn't just "pray" your new kidney in, you went to a doctor to get it done. You need to go to a psychiatrist for your issues, because "the Lord helps those who helps themselves" Surprised your wife hasn't pushed for you to do that, of course she seems to be a partner in crime with you on all of this...
As an Aside, THANK YOU MISS LYNN! For checking in on this point and confirming the reality of my hospitalization
Let's face it I was just being a Nosey Bitch. The conversation with the nurse revealed a lot more than I thought would be revealed. Though I must say nothing surprised me in regards to you.
As an Aside, THANK YOU MISS LYNN! For checking in on this point and confirming the reality of my hospitalization
Let's face it I was just being a Nosey Bitch. The conversation with the nurse revealed a lot more than I thought would be revealed. Though I must say nothing surprised me in regards to you.
She exists, and I pity her, no matter what way she swings in all of this.
From a women's perspective why do you think she sticks with him?? I know if I was doing this type of stuff my wife would of 1. told me to stop doing it or 2. kicked me to the curb. I cannot understand why women stick around with guys like this it just boggles my mind.
I asked my better half about it, and she came up with 3 possibilities.
1. She's in on it. 2. She's attracted to "bad boys" wrinkly tatted up wannabe douchenozzles. 3. She loves him so much that she is willing/able to overlook anything.
I asked my better half about it, and she came up with 3 possibilities.
1. She's in on it. 2. She's attracted to "bad boys". 3. She loves him so much that she is willing/able to overlook anything.
Or, any combination of the 3.
Your Wife pretty much covered it all.
My Mother suffered from number 2 and 3 when it came to my stepfather. The things that he visited upon our family was beyond the world any child should ever have to live in. After he died my Brother and I brought up the subject of the mental, physical and emotional abuse we suffered at his hands, and we questioned her as to why she made no effort to remove us from that way of life. Her response was that we were "dreaming" and that no such thing occurred at any time, and that we needed to get help because we were living in some kind of sick world of our own creation. She became angry and violent, like some kind of mentally incapacitated shrew. Needless to say our relationship pretty much ended not long after that incident.
He ran over my Mother with a car, smashed her head into a cast iron heater requiring more stitches that I could count, he slashed both her arms requiring 72 stitches on one arm and 71 on the other, and many, many other things too numerous to mention. His treatment of us, her own flesh and blood was the same, yet she stood by him, no matter what, no matter who.
So, yes, there is a great possibility that Sherri suffers from a combination of 2 or 3.
Or
She is as sick and twisted as he is.
Whatever it is, if he was a 1/1,000,000 of the man he claims to be, he would put a stop to himself. Because at this point he is too sick and twisted to fix, ever.
While your cruising reading all of this, and it is very evident that you are, please note, that my supposed need to be careful in regards to what I say about you is nul and void. You see I don't give a flying $%^&*! about you. Your messing with the wrong woman, trust me on that one.
I asked my better half about it, and she came up with 3 possibilities.
1. She's in on it. 2. She's attracted to "bad boys". 3. She loves him so much that she is willing/able to overlook anything.
Or, any combination of the 3.
Your Wife pretty much covered it all.
My Mother suffered from number 2 and 3 when it came to my stepfather. The things that he visited upon our family was beyond the world any child should ever have to live in. After he died my Brother and I brought up the subject of the mental, physical and emotional abuse we suffered at his hands, and we questioned her as to why she made no effort to remove us from that way of life. Her response was that we were "dreaming" and that no such thing occurred at any time, and that we needed to get help because we were living in some kind of sick world of our own creation. She became angry and violent, like some kind of mentally incapacitated shrew. Needless to say our relationship pretty much ended not long after that incident.
He ran over my Mother with a car, smashed her head into a cast iron heater requiring more stitches that I could count, he slashed both her arms requiring 72 stitches on one arm and 71 on the other, and many, many other things too numerous to mention. His treatment of us, her own flesh and blood was the same, yet she stood by him, no matter what, no matter who.
So, yes, there is a great possibility that Sherri suffers from a combination of 2 or 3.
Or
She is as sick and twisted as he is.
Whatever it is, if he was a 1/1,000,000 of the man he claims to be, he would put a stop to himself. Because at this point he is too sick and twisted to fix, ever.
If it's because she is attracted to "bad boys" she really needs to get out more, Mark is about as "bad boy" as a chikadee splashing in a bird bath
I asked my better half about it, and she came up with 3 possibilities.
1. She's in on it. 2. She's attracted to "bad boys". 3. She loves him so much that she is willing/able to overlook anything.
Or, any combination of the 3.
Your Wife pretty much covered it all.
My Mother suffered from number 2 and 3 when it came to my stepfather. The things that he visited upon our family was beyond the world any child should ever have to live in. After he died my Brother and I brought up the subject of the mental, physical and emotional abuse we suffered at his hands, and we questioned her as to why she made no effort to remove us from that way of life. Her response was that we were "dreaming" and that no such thing occurred at any time, and that we needed to get help because we were living in some kind of sick world of our own creation. She became angry and violent, like some kind of mentally incapacitated shrew. Needless to say our relationship pretty much ended not long after that incident.
He ran over my Mother with a car, smashed her head into a cast iron heater requiring more stitches that I could count, he slashed both her arms requiring 72 stitches on one arm and 71 on the other, and many, many other things too numerous to mention. His treatment of us, her own flesh and blood was the same, yet she stood by him, no matter what, no matter who.
So, yes, there is a great possibility that Sherri suffers from a combination of 2 or 3.
Or
She is as sick and twisted as he is.
Whatever it is, if he was a 1/1,000,000 of the man he claims to be, he would put a stop to himself. Because at this point he is too sick and twisted to fix, ever.
If it's because she is attracted to "bad boys" she really needs to get out more, Mark is about as "bad boy" as a chikadee splashing in a bird bath
Every woman's idea of a bad boy is different. We have no idea what her idea of a bad boy is. I am willing to bet her idea is far different from your idea and mine.
My idea of a bad boy is the Brother I never talk about much. He screwed, and or tried to screw and steal from pretty much every human he has ever come in contact with from about the age of eleven, maybe earlier and I did not notice before then. Not just strangers, his family, his wives, his own grandparents, his own kids, you name it. He was Mark all over, but way worse, he took two people's lives when the screwing he was trying to give them went bad.
He found God, faked getting therapy, repented, the whole circus, over and over again, gaining trust and starting his bullshit all over again. All so he could live the life of the big man he wanted to be, but was never man enough to make of himself.
He is in prison now, where he can again pretend to be the big man he always wanted to be, but under the cover of night, in his cell, until the morning, when he is once again just prisoner number XXXXXXX that nobody of any importance in life gives a damn about.
Your right, Mark is not a bad boy, not in our eyes, but in his mind he is the the King of the Hill, but he should remember, even Kings come tumbling down.
I asked my better half about it, and she came up with 3 possibilities.
1. She's in on it. 2. She's attracted to "bad boys". 3. She loves him so much that she is willing/able to overlook anything.
Or, any combination of the 3.
Your Wife pretty much covered it all.
My Mother suffered from number 2 and 3 when it came to my stepfather. The things that he visited upon our family was beyond the world any child should ever have to live in. After he died my Brother and I brought up the subject of the mental, physical and emotional abuse we suffered at his hands, and we questioned her as to why she made no effort to remove us from that way of life. Her response was that we were "dreaming" and that no such thing occurred at any time, and that we needed to get help because we were living in some kind of sick world of our own creation. She became angry and violent, like some kind of mentally incapacitated shrew. Needless to say our relationship pretty much ended not long after that incident.
He ran over my Mother with a car, smashed her head into a cast iron heater requiring more stitches that I could count, he slashed both her arms requiring 72 stitches on one arm and 71 on the other, and many, many other things too numerous to mention. His treatment of us, her own flesh and blood was the same, yet she stood by him, no matter what, no matter who.
So, yes, there is a great possibility that Sherri suffers from a combination of 2 or 3.
Or
She is as sick and twisted as he is.
Whatever it is, if he was a 1/1,000,000 of the man he claims to be, he would put a stop to himself. Because at this point he is too sick and twisted to fix, ever.
If it's because she is attracted to "bad boys" she really needs to get out more, Mark is about as "bad boy" as a chikadee splashing in a bird bath
Every woman's idea of a bad boy is different. We have no idea what her idea of a bad boy is. I am willing to bet her idea is far different from your idea and mine.
My idea of a bad boy is the Brother I never talk about much. He screwed, and or tried to screw and steal from pretty much every human he has ever come in contact with from about the age of eleven, maybe earlier and I did not notice before then. Not just strangers, his family, his wives, his own grandparents, his own kids, you name it. He was Mark all over, but way worse, he took two people's lives when the screwing he was trying to give them went bad.
He found God, faked getting therapy, repented, the whole circus, over and over again, gaining trust and starting his bullshit all over again. All so he could live the life of the big man he wanted to be, but was never man enough to make of himself.
He is in prison now, where he can again pretend to be the big man he always wanted to be, but under the cover of night, in his cell, until the morning, when he is once again just prisoner number XXXXXXX that nobody of any importance in life gives a damn about.
Your right, Mark is not a bad boy, not in our eyes, but in his mind he is the the King of the Hill, but he should remember, even Kings come tumbling down.
I believe some women just crave the intensity of TV soap opera/romance paper back novel lifestyle. Like an addiction they get hooked and need the intense emotional highs and lows to feel alive. Which "bad boy" they are with doesn't really seem to matter as long as they are getting their emotional 'fix'. If the one they are with leaves them or changes his bad boy ways they search out another.
I believe some women just crave the intensity of TV soap opera/romance paper back novel lifestyle. Like an addiction they get hooked and need the intense emotional highs and lows to feel alive. Which "bad boy" they are with doesn't really seem to matter as long as they are getting their emotional 'fix'. If the one they are with leaves them or changes his bad boy ways they search out another.
Uh, how about she's just a manipulating POS like him?
Sad thing about this whole affair, he could go on the freakshow right now and beg for prayers for himself or some other made up drama, and there would be 2 pages of dumbshits falling over themselves to give them by the end of the day.
Here is the Reader's Digest Version Mark: I really love this gun and hate to sell it, but............................. A. [Alt 1] I am having surgery...... B. [Alt 2 I have huge medical expenses....... C. [Alt 3] I have a friend in need D [Alt 4] All the above. 24hrs: What are the details? Mark: I don't know. 24 hrs: Who did you hire to do the gunsmithing last year? Mark: I don't know. 24 hrs: Are there any gunsmith marks? Mark: I'll have to check someday - unless the gun sells first. 24 hrs: How many miles? Mark: Only driven by a little only lady on Sundays. 24 hrs: Hey, aren't you the guy the screwed over some other people on this site? Mark: I have lots of friends and supporters. 1 Post Newb: I've done a lot of deals with Mark and he is a great guy. 24 hrs: WTF! Mark: I am ignoring the haters and thread jackers, but thanks for the bumps. Mark: I suddenly remembered who did the gunsmithing. I am not asking for charity, but selling this rifle would be a big help to us right now with all the medical bills. 24 hrs: Did you really have surgery? 24 hrs: I talked to his nurse and he had surgery. The Dr. could not find a heart, but you'll never guess where they found his head. 24 hrs: Weren't you convicted of insurance scams and your license revoked? Mark: I have done business with plenty of people here and only a few deals went bad. 24 hrs: Did you make it right with the people you screwed? Mark: I have had time to post more guns, but I have not had any time to make things right with the people I screwed. 24 hrs: Didn't you just get a Chapter 7 Bankruptcy discharge? Mark: That's why I don't have to make it up to the people i screwed. Actually it was my second Bankruptcy. 24 hrs: Wow, is there anyone you won't screw? Mark: I have been praying to God. I am not mad at any of you for calling it like it is. Mark: Alright, you're onto my scam. I won't be posting for a while. I think I'll hitch up my medicine wagon and roll on to the next town. Mark: Remember when I said I would move on? That was a lie too. I really DO intend, plan on, focus toward etc. to make the second half or so of Mark / Safariman's life one that really truly honors God. I forgive all of you, really. 24 hrs: Mark, how does your wife stand you? Mark: You know those little white lies I tell here once in a while- we'll............................................... Mark: Hold on, there is a knock at the door. 24 hrs: Who was it? Mark: Karma. God: I'll put an end to this.
Here is the Reader's Digest Version Mark: I really love this gun and hate to sell it, but............................. A. [Alt 1] I am having surgery...... B. [Alt 2 I have huge medical expenses....... C. [Alt 3] I have a friend in need D [Alt 4] All the above. 24hrs: What are the details? Mark: I don't know. 24 hrs: Who did you hire to do the gunsmithing last year? Mark: I don't know. 24 hrs: Are there any gunsmith marks? Mark: I'll have to check someday - unless the gun sells first. 24 hrs: How many miles? Mark: Only driven by a little only lady on Sundays. 24 hrs: Hey, aren't you the guy the screwed over some other people on this site? Mark: I have lots of friends and supporters. 1 Post Newb: I've done a lot of deals with Mark and he is a great guy. 24 hrs: WTF! Mark: I am ignoring the haters and thread jackers, but thanks for the bumps. Mark: I suddenly remembered who did the gunsmithing. I am not asking for charity, but selling this rifle would be a big help to us right now with all the medical bills. 24 hrs: Did you really have surgery? 24 hrs: I talked to his nurse and he had surgery. The Dr. could not find a heart, but you'll never guess where they found his head. 24 hrs: Weren't you convicted of insurance scams and your license revoked? Mark: I have done business with plenty of people here and only a few deals went bad. 24 hrs: Did you make it right with the people you screwed? Mark: I have had time to post more guns, but I have not had any time to make things right with the people I screwed. 24 hrs: Didn't you just get a Chapter 7 Bankruptcy discharge? Mark: That's why I don't have to make it up to the people i screwed. Actually it was my second Bankruptcy. 24 hrs: Wow, is there anyone you won't screw? Mark: I have been praying to God. I am not mad at any of you for calling it like it is. Mark: Alright, you're onto my scam. I won't be posting for a while. I think I'll hitch up my medicine wagon and roll on to the next town. Mark: Remember when I said I would move on? That was a lie too. I really DO intend, plan on, focus toward etc. to make the second half or so of Mark / Safariman's life one that really truly honors God. I forgive all of you, really. 24 hrs: Mark, how does your wife stand you? Mark: You know those little white lies I tell here once in a while- we'll............................................... Mark: Hold on, their is a knock at the door. 24 hrs: Who was it? Mark: Karma. God: I'll put an end to this.
I have to wonder if he's behind some of the Nigerian scam emails I get all the time. Modus operandi doesn't seem much different.
I'm still chapped that he had the balls to offer me that hideous yellow piece of crap as a partial trade on the Cummins that I sold on the Campfire, maintaining that it was in perfect shape when it had a bad transmission. Not that I would have entertained driving something that looks like a travelling orgasm.
I have to wonder if he's behind some of the Nigerian scam emails I get all the time. Modus operandi doesn't seem much different.
I'm still chapped that he had the balls to offer me that hideous yellow piece of crap as a partial trade on the Cummins that I sold on the Campfire, maintaining that it was in perfect shape when it had a bad transmission. Not that I would have entertained driving something that looks like a travelling orgasm.
I have to wonder if he's behind some of the Nigerian scam emails I get all the time. Modus operandi doesn't seem much different.
I'm still chapped that he had the balls to offer me that hideous yellow piece of crap as a partial trade on the Cummins that I sold on the Campfire, maintaining that it was in perfect shape when it had a bad transmission. Not that I would have entertained driving something that looks like a travelling orgasm.
That was another Uber thread, where he said he worked for a rancher keeping people from driving off-road, trespassing, etc., then posts that picture of himself driving off-road.
From a women's perspective why do you think she sticks with him??
Life insurance policy? Shot inna' dark...
Kinda makes one go hmmm....
Leighton, you may have hit upon both the reason for her staying, and the first step in initiating that payment.
I can't help but wonder who issued the life insurance policy though. Hope they had a valid license or the insurance company might be able to get out of paying...
For some reason these threads about Safariman's shady wheeling and dealing shenanigans keep bringing to mind the character, Jerry Lundegaard, in the movie Fargo.
if you go to the section for the list of members, we have a new member so to speak today. Right below safariman, is THE NEW SAFARIMAN. for what it's worth. "I'll be back sometime, but will not grab another assumed cybername. I will still be safariman. "
if you go to the section for the list of members, we have a new member so to speak today. Right below safariman, is THE NEW SAFARIMAN. for what it's worth.
And here is what you get when you try to send Mark a pm
TheNewSafariMan is over their Private Topic limit.
in arizona anyway, as part of a b.k. is a listing of assets. It's not worth researching it to find out if a trailer, harley, quad, rifles etc are shown as an asset on that b.k.
Many years ago i was representing a bank in a b.k. by a guy that had a car financed by the bank. He filed a statement of assets where he kind of forgot to mention a model t ford, stored in a garage over in california. I thought he was going to puke when the bank attorney presented pictures etc. I thought he was going to puke even more when the judge said he was going to turn it over I think from memory to the U.S. Marsall's office for further investigation.
When you file a Chapter 7 bankruptcy, a trustee will be assigned to your case. The trustee’s job is to evaluate your filing and sell off any non-exempt assets to pay off your creditors. The trustees are paid a percentage of the amount they get from selling your assets, so they are motivated to look very carefully for property you did not include in your filing. Your trustee will review public records, the documents you submitted with your filing, search for assets online, and carefully review your debts. Also, anyone with an ax to grind, such as an ex-spouse or ex-business partner, may come forward and tell the trustee about anything you’re trying to hide as well.
If the trustee finds out that you’ve tried to hide assets, you may face an array of punishments. Because you sign your bankruptcy petition under the penalty of perjury, if you are lying on any part of it you could face criminal charges resulting in a $500,000 fine, up to 5 years in jail, or both. Also, you will not be entitled to a discharge and you may lose any property that is over the exemption limit. Any debts listed in your fraudulent bankruptcy will not be eligible for discharge in any subsequent bankruptcy. If the trustee finds that you hid assets up to one year after you received your discharge, he or she can revoke your discharge.
When you file a Chapter 7 bankruptcy, a trustee will be assigned to your case. The trustee’s job is to evaluate your filing and sell off any non-exempt assets to pay off your creditors. The trustees are paid a percentage of the amount they get from selling your assets, so they are motivated to look very carefully for property you did not include in your filing. Your trustee will review public records, the documents you submitted with your filing, search for assets online, and carefully review your debts. Also, anyone with an ax to grind, such as an ex-spouse or ex-business partner, may come forward and tell the trustee about anything you’re trying to hide as well.
If the trustee finds out that you’ve tried to hide assets, you may face an array of punishments. Because you sign your bankruptcy petition under the penalty of perjury, if you are lying on any part of it you could face criminal charges resulting in a $500,000 fine, up to 5 years in jail, or both. Also, you will not be entitled to a discharge and you may lose any property that is over the exemption limit. Any debts listed in your fraudulent bankruptcy will not be eligible for discharge in any subsequent bankruptcy. If the trustee finds that you hid assets up to one year after you received your discharge, he or she can revoke your discharge.
Quote
If the trustee finds that you hid assets up to one year after you received your discharge, he or she can revoke your discharge.
When you file a Chapter 7 bankruptcy, a trustee will be assigned to your case. The trustee’s job is to evaluate your filing and sell off any non-exempt assets to pay off your creditors. The trustees are paid a percentage of the amount they get from selling your assets, so they are motivated to look very carefully for property you did not include in your filing. Your trustee will review public records, the documents you submitted with your filing, search for assets online, and carefully review your debts. Also, anyone with an ax to grind, such as an ex-spouse or ex-business partner, may come forward and tell the trustee about anything you’re trying to hide as well.
If the trustee finds out that you’ve tried to hide assets, you may face an array of punishments. Because you sign your bankruptcy petition under the penalty of perjury, if you are lying on any part of it you could face criminal charges resulting in a $500,000 fine, up to 5 years in jail, or both. Also, you will not be entitled to a discharge and you may lose any property that is over the exemption limit. Any debts listed in your fraudulent bankruptcy will not be eligible for discharge in any subsequent bankruptcy. If the trustee finds that you hid assets up to one year after you received your discharge, he or she can revoke your discharge.
Quote
If the trustee finds that you hid assets up to one year after you received your discharge, he or she can revoke your discharge.
I have a good friend that does trustee work and I'll see what he says about this. I cant believe Mark would try to sell off high $$ guns just being discharaged, even more so on the net where everyone can see, talk about stupid. I remember my buddy saying sometime back about this dumb azz that filed chapter 7 and like 6 month after discharge tried to sell off some high dollar items. He sold some stuff to a guy that remember reading in the paper about his discharge. That guy turned him in and his discharge was revoked and his creditors had a good time sueing him. If I remember right he lost everything, anyway I'll see my buddy today and I'll say something to him. I know trustee's don't like to be make a fool of as that do get a percentage is that can sell off stuff. That's why they look so hard to see if your hiding anything.
I was always curious as to how you become too medically disabled to sell insurance, let's face it. Most ins. Salesmen I know are about as physically active as a walmart greeter
While he has been exposed here, just think of all the people (especially the old) that safariman has [bleep] over that never realized it or simply gave up trying to pursue the issue because the shady bastard managed to give them the slip...
A few hundred here, a few thousand there... You know if he has been caught with his con-game on a board like this, he has certainly put the screws to way more people that simply fell through the cracks because they simply weren't aware or gave up trying.
I wonder why he chose this forum to do all his dealings... Most times they branch out i wonder why he didn't try this over on accurate reloading, and other forums.
I am still waiting to see a COPY of his medical bills he was gonna post. I like the part where he states he is leaving for awhile.Does that mean you had your ass whooped
UPDATE: talk to my friend that's a trustee and showed him this post of the rifle he's trying to sell. The trustee that handling Marks BR would have mad him sell if off to help pay crediters. Said if he was Mark trustee that he would revoke his discrarge and go after him with fraud.
UPDATE: talk to my friend that's a trustee and showed him this post of the rifle he's trying to sell. The trustee that handling Marks BR would have mad him sell if off to help pay crediters. Said if he was Mark trustee that he would revoke his discrarge and go after him with fraud.
Here's hoping SM's trustee reopen the case and the POS gets thrown in jail.
UPDATE: talk to my friend that's a trustee and showed him this post of the rifle he's trying to sell. The trustee that handling Marks BR would have mad him sell if off to help pay crediters. Said if he was Mark trustee that he would revoke his discrarge and go after him with fraud.
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave..."
Wouldn't be surprised in the least if someone he has screwed over at one time or another contacts their trustee and tips him off regarding the rifle he has listed for sale in this thread.
Having been 'had' once no doubt the trustee wouldn't stop with the rifle but also commence to digging much, much deeper searching for evidence of any other undeclared nonexempt assets, still in his/her possession or sold off over the past several months since their bankruptcy.
I said in my 'see ya'll a bit later' post that I would be checking and replying to PM's here a couple of times a day. Don't know why then that anyone would bet that I would not do so. And I have. We have another member who now needs a kidney transplant and he and I are visiting about that matter. And, I have a couple of trades that are finalizing and I need to stay in touch with the guys I owe stuff to and vice versa.
I have not read this whole thread, not going to. But a little bird told me that someone thought I had run off scared or some such. Nothing could be further from the truth. I am not afraid of any of you, here on the 'net nor in person.
Most may not believe this, and that is OK, but I do realize that I have made some real mistakes here and in my life. I truly am using the time that I am not here to do the soul searching that I said I would and asking THE great physician and the only one who can fix what ails me, for help in doing just that.
Sean, buddy, you are forgetting the many times that you saw me pray to begin a day of appointments that God would help me to be of a help and a blessing to all whom I came in contact with at the start of a business day. And the Bankers Life Magazine article where I stated and was quoted as telling others who wanted to be successful like I had been when they wrote about me that " You have to care more about the person across the table from you more than about yourself. If you are not about improving other people's lives and making thier dreams come true, then you are not worthy to have YOUR dreams and plans come true" And I meant that, and conducted myself in that fashion. And, FWIW Bankers is trying to recruit me back now that I will be able to work again soon. That some Oregon DOI employees thought differently is beyond my control right now. If I had not begun getting so sick so fast toward the end of my carreer and been able to financially as well as energy wise continue my fight with them I am certain that before a real judge and opportunity to see the wholle of the interviews that the DOI made (and was allowed to only cherry pick the worst parts in the 'hearing' with no opportunity for my attorney to see the whole or cross examine) we would have won, easily. The hard number rules of how much money, in % form, one could put into an annuity were not put into the DOI code until AFTER I wrote the annuities in question.
And Sean, you are forgetting for some reason how you credited me, after we had parted ways proffesionally, for your time spent in a church praying one afternoon. That, according to you, it was my influence in your life that led to that afternoons time. I hope that you are still allowing God to rule and run your life. Also, you never ONCE suggested that I was doing anything wrong in my business affairs with Bankers or my clients. And for good reson, I WASN'T. Yeah, an Oregon DOI employee found me to have lied to investigators, when they compared notes from over 6 years of questioning me and found discrepncies when i had to go from memory each and every time plus truly was becoming very ill and weak, but there is not any mention of anyone being financially harmed by following my recomendations because they were not. AND, amigo, you are forgetting the many times that you called me to THANK ME for getting you started with Bankers Life - where you DID and WERE selling the exact same annuities that I was- and for mentoring you by the telephone many, many times to help you get a good start in the business. I happily spent HOURS on the phone with you both coaching and encouraging you. And I do not regret one single minute of that even now. Also, when you got your big break to work for Johns-Hopkins (LONG after our business relationship had ended) you called me and thanked me AGAIN for getting you the start you needed which allowed you to have the right skillset and knowledge base that made you a good fit for your fund raising job. You might still be working there, I don't know. I DO know that the last time I called you to see how you were doing, you promised me a phone call that never came. You simply took a chickenshit way and started bad mouthing me from an new assumed name, without once telling me that you thought I had been wrong in any of my business matters, when I THOUGHT you were my friend. Just... wow.
I just remembered another double standard here. Remember when I called you from a gun shop in LaGrande Oregon? I was looking at an older Savage model 99 in 300 Savage which had a tang mounted peep sight for $400.00. YOU told me that I should buy it and then flip it here at 24hrcf. That the sight alone made it worth much more than the $400 price tag. So I did and it was. I have long ago now quit the gun flipping but you were a mentor and co conspiritor with me on that. And in fact the VERY FIRST internet firearms transaction I ever did was with you. The funny stocked pre-64 model 70 in 270WCF for your Rossi lever action in .454 Casull. I wish I still had that one!
Sean, You are forgetting a LOT of things about our friendship. And I don't know how you were raised, but in our world and in my family you do not live in a mans house (Our guest room and sometimes our travel trailer right next to the house, but eating and such here), eat at his table, go to his best varmint shooting and fishing spots as an invited guest and close friend and then without telling him become his arch enemy from the anonymiity of a new assumed name, and for YEARS now. At least without having the balls for and class to have a person to person conversation first with that freind who trusted you FIRST. Even if by phone or e-mail. It is just not done, if a man is a man of honor. Some would call that two faced, at a minimum.
But, FWIW, I forgive you completely and without reservation. And, I sincerely thank YOU for it was your signing that long diatribe against me that made me finally really take notice. I should have long before, perhaps, but I am only 55 and have a new lease on life for which I am truly grateful for to both God and my amazing cousin.
And, I really DO intend, plan on, focus toward etc. to make the second half or so of Mark / Safariman's life one that really truly honors God. And one that really counts for something in the eternal scheme of things. And THAT my friends, and only that, is why I am stepping back from here for a little bit. There really could be something wrong deep down that needs some significant work. I am open to the idea of that and will be exploring all the options and avenues of fixing and re building things.
To all who have made fun of my testimony as a Christian and a Gospel singer.... Steelhead especially, This is what pains me the most. I am so sorry that some of my actions have caused harm to come to the name of my Lord and Savior. You all cannot see into my heart of hearts, but I truly did genuinely care for and about not only my clients, and I did help them, but as best I could and can all with whom I come into contact. As for my clients, I would make the same recomendations to them if I was a third party giving advice to them without my name on any paperwork, even though Oregon DOI now has some really arbitrary and poorly thought out % maximums that did not exist when I wrote the annuities in question. More to the point, I really DO love God, and people. The best part of being in and out of Virginia Mason hospital for 6 weeks was the opportunity to spot hurting or worried people and pray with or for them.
As an Aside, THANK YOU MISS LYNN! For checking in on this point and confirming the reality of my hospitalization. and confirming the reality of my lovely bride, asphaltangel. I lover her SOOOO much....
I will post some photos from my surgery here when I come back, and of my Vietnam Vet freind enjoying his Browning semi auto 243 and Loopy scope - big grin on his face - when I do return here. And I shall return.
And I do love singing and giving God glory that HE deserves. And I am an unabashed evangalist (see the links to my ink, perhaps). Some think I am pretty good at it. I have never received a dime for any of this and I like it that way.
I will not be checking in back here to see what happens next in this thread, some of you if not most will continue to have your fun at my expense and I am fine with that. This is, after all, JUST the internet. In real life, and with the people who truly know me I am much liked and loved and THAT is what counts. As for here and for now, I am only going to keep communication going with the folks who I am PM'ing with and as I said before any or all of you are welcome to PM me and I will ad here that you are all invited to e-mail me at:
I'll be back sometime, but will not grab another assumed cybername. I will still be safariman. All will know who I am, and I am a man not afraid to face some personal demons and get 'em killed off, and will not take the cowards way of using some other name and hoping no one knows who I really am.
As well, I will not be one who percevorates over another persons presence here and stalks them and tries to hi jack their posts or threads. This place is supposed to be fun, and a place to talk about guns and politics and hunting and fishing and such. I remember when it was just that.
Whenever I return in full, I hope that I will be allowed to just be one of the posting members here, without the drama that none of us really needs and is not of a benefit to the campfire experience IMO.
Other than PM's or e-mails, I will see ya'll some time down the road.
Genuine wishes for Gods blessings upon you all,
Safariman
PS not going to do some stupid swan song post in the general campfire, either. Just be MIA for a while.
Good grief. Your response is predictably sad, and even more pridefully narcissistic than I thought you were. I'm going to attempt to deal only with the few pieces of relevant stuff in that litany of mostly irrelevant, barely comprehensible bullschit you rolled out.
The "Bankers Life" magazine article was, frankly, a lie. You have never cared more about anyone or anything else than yourself. You peddled that line of BS to yourself, clients/marks, the company that you then LIED TO (as detailed in the Oregon decision), and anyone else you've ever come across. Actions speak louder than words, and yours speak in volumes. Yes, you prayed each day for that which you said, but you ended EVERY one of them with a request for profitable sales and to make lots of money.
Yes, I worked for Bankers when I started. I did not, however, sell the same schit you did. I never sold indexed annuities, which you sold a ton of and still can't accurately describe how they work. I became one of the very few registered representatives for that company hold Federal financial licenses that you never had in order to be able to LEGALLY talk to clients about classes of investments and recommend investments and products outside of what Bankers offered. I left that chitty company when a branch manager without the licenses I had, or to oversee my business, tried to force me to sell improper products to a client in order to bolster his office numbers. I had that conversation with you, many times, and MANY times did I discuss with you that you didn't have the licenses to be dealing with entire classes of investments that you continued to deal with, and you didn't understand fully the products themselves. Your only consistent questions then were how you could get around those rules and how much the commissions were on things.
I have no doubt that Bankers Life & Casualty Co. may well be trying to rehire you, assuming you return to work and could manage to have an insurance license. That company is one of the very worst in the industry; they have no morals and the compliance and enforcement cases against them account for many volumes of rulings in every state they operate in. They lie, cheat, steal, train agents to do the same, and market extraordinarily bad products to elderly people. I know; I worked for them for a short time until I got my financial licenses and moved on.
Yes, I credited you with assisting me on certain aspects of the trade; appointment setting, fact-finding, and follow-up. Those things were important and have continued to help me. However, if you will notice, NONE of those are on technical specifics and none on compliance. You have never shown the proclivity with the technical aspects of what you sold, much less things you weren't licensed to discuss in the first place, and your compliance record and ethics stink.
The very fact that you would somehow try to take credit for any and all success I've had in life is just staggeringly narcissistic and flatly false. Oh, and as to your guess as to my faith practices (which you are also trying to take credit for), that is supposition on your part; irrelevant and extremely unChristlike.
Your claims of my betrayal of you are really rather funny. The few times I visited and worked with you, I NEVER slept in your home. I stayed at a hotel, or in the travel trailer in your driveway. The "meals at your table" were damned few and far between; generally it was pizza or some other take-out. I went varmint shooting once and fishing once. You are also forgetting the PMs here that I sent to you in order to convince you to quit your unlicensed dealing of firearms across state lines using the Internet (this site) as your means of conveyance. That, Mark, is a Federal felony; and each transaction could carry with it several years in a Federal prison. I did that because I thought you had any sense at all, and frankly the only thing that finally got through to you was the fact that Sherri would be just a liable as you were for every transaction because she's on here and either knew or should have known.
There's a difference between what you were doing (regular source of necessary income by those transactions), and a 99 bought so the sight and perhaps the firearm could be sold for a small profit (hobby exclusion covering irregular deals). Trying to paint me with that brush won't work, and in fact, it's par the course with you.
Let's talk about Oregon for a moment. Oregon didn't rescind your license because of a single deal with a percentage of asset rule violated. They SUSPENDED your license for that. They took your license for several cases that involved dishonesty, fraud, misrepresentation, forging documents, lying to investigators, clients, and your own company. That decision, not the percentage asset rule decision, cost you your license. You refuse to admit that, even though it's very plain in the text of the decision. You refuse to admit that you took money out of your own pocket and bought toys for yourself and stuff to try to sell when your wife had bald tires on her vehicle and household bills were needing to be paid. You refuse to admit that you've ever done anything wrong, regardless of the evidence and the facts in opposition to your belief. You're sick, and you need help.
However, it may be beyond that now. It is quite obvious that you lied on your bankruptcy declarations. You purposefully hid and failed to disclose assets, such as multiple firearms, the Harley-Davidson motorcycle, and the 5th wheel trailer (perhaps among others), that would not have been exempt under the Chapter 7 filing. That, Mark, is perjury and not only are you liable for that but so is Sherri.
There are enough people here who know now, and more than enough who have had more than they want to take of and from you that someone is very likely to contact the bankruptcy trustee (whose contact information has been located and posted in this thread) about those material facts, and your own words on this forum will serve as the evidence that you knew you had those assets and that you retained them during the time of the bankruptcy. At the VERY least, you could and probably will lose those assets. You, and Sherri, may well have your bankruptcy filing reopened and disallowed by the court, and it could get even worse than that. This is your doing, Mark. This is not my fault, not the fault of anyone who contacts the trustee, nor the trustee. This is your doing, Mark; you lied (again) for your own selfish personal benefit and it may well come back to finally, definitively, bite you in the ass. I suspect someone will make that call to the trustee and you'll have to own this one, Mark, because it's your name that swore under oath that you were being truthful in your disclosures when you were intentionally lying.
In your mind, I may be "cowardly", "two-faced", and "chickenschit". However, in your mind, you've never done anything wrong. In a mind like that, nothing is straight, and I'll say again, you need help. You never accepted any guidance or advice when it came from a friend, and you've never accepted any correction when it came from an anonymous source. You've never accepted fault when it came from a regulatory agency, and you're not accepting fault now even after the facts are public. If you wouldn't do that, trying to hit you with some aggressive corrective action from an "enemy" was about the only choice left. Instead of finally looking at yourself and realizing that you are exactly what people have been saying, you're playing the victim (again) in order to escape the facts. You need professional, psychiatric help Mark.
Safariman by pm: "I probably should sell my equally beautiful Mausers in 416 Rigby and 220 Swift. Maybe my old school bench rest rifle with stunning tiger stripe Walnut and Rosewood plus a new Lilja 3 groove heavy barrel built on an L-461 Sako action and now in 223"
However, it may be beyond that now. It is quite obvious that you lied on your bankruptcy declarations. You purposefully hid and failed to disclose assets, such as multiple firearms, the Harley-Davidson motorcycle, and the 5th wheel trailer (perhaps among others), that would not have been exempt under the Chapter 7 filing. That, Mark, is perjury and not only are you liable for that but so is Sherri.
There are enough people here who know now, and more than enough who have had more than they want to take of and from you that someone is very likely to contact the bankruptcy trustee (whose contact information has been located and posted in this thread) about those material facts, and your own words on this forum will serve as the evidence that you knew you had those assets and that you retained them during the time of the bankruptcy. At the VERY least, you could and probably will lose those assets. You, and Sherri, may well have your bankruptcy filing reopened and disallowed by the court, and it could get even worse than that. This is your doing, Mark. This is not my fault, not the fault of anyone who contacts the trustee, nor the trustee. This is your doing, Mark; you lied (again) for your own selfish personal benefit and it may well come back to finally, definitively, bite you in the ass. I suspect someone will make that call to the trustee and you'll have to own this one, Mark, because it's your name that swore under oath that you were being truthful in your disclosures when you were intentionally lying.
I said in my 'see ya'll a bit later' post that I would be checking and replying to PM's here a couple of times a day. Don't know why then that anyone would bet that I would not do so. And I have. We have another member who now needs a kidney transplant and he and I are visiting about that matter. And, I have a couple of trades that are finalizing and I need to stay in touch with the guys I owe stuff to and vice versa.
I have not read this whole thread, not going to. But a little bird told me that someone thought I had run off scared or some such. Nothing could be further from the truth. I am not afraid of any of you, here on the 'net nor in person.
Most may not believe this, and that is OK, but I do realize that I have made some real mistakes here and in my life. I truly am using the time that I am not here to do the soul searching that I said I would and asking THE great physician and the only one who can fix what ails me, for help in doing just that.
Sean, buddy, you are forgetting the many times that you saw me pray to begin a day of appointments that God would help me to be of a help and a blessing to all whom I came in contact with at the start of a business day. And the Bankers Life Magazine article where I stated and was quoted as telling others who wanted to be successful like I had been when they wrote about me that " You have to care more about the person across the table from you more than about yourself. If you are not about improving other people's lives and making thier dreams come true, then you are not worthy to have YOUR dreams and plans come true" And I meant that, and conducted myself in that fashion. And, FWIW Bankers is trying to recruit me back now that I will be able to work again soon. That some Oregon DOI employees thought differently is beyond my control right now. If I had not begun getting so sick so fast toward the end of my carreer and been able to financially as well as energy wise continue my fight with them I am certain that before a real judge and opportunity to see the wholle of the interviews that the DOI made (and was allowed to only cherry pick the worst parts in the 'hearing' with no opportunity for my attorney to see the whole or cross examine) we would have won, easily. The hard number rules of how much money, in % form, one could put into an annuity were not put into the DOI code until AFTER I wrote the annuities in question.
And Sean, you are forgetting for some reason how you credited me, after we had parted ways proffesionally, for your time spent in a church praying one afternoon. That, according to you, it was my influence in your life that led to that afternoons time. I hope that you are still allowing God to rule and run your life. Also, you never ONCE suggested that I was doing anything wrong in my business affairs with Bankers or my clients. And for good reson, I WASN'T. Yeah, an Oregon DOI employee found me to have lied to investigators, when they compared notes from over 6 years of questioning me and found discrepncies when i had to go from memory each and every time plus truly was becoming very ill and weak, but there is not any mention of anyone being financially harmed by following my recomendations because they were not. AND, amigo, you are forgetting the many times that you called me to THANK ME for getting you started with Bankers Life - where you DID and WERE selling the exact same annuities that I was- and for mentoring you by the telephone many, many times to help you get a good start in the business. I happily spent HOURS on the phone with you both coaching and encouraging you. And I do not regret one single minute of that even now. Also, when you got your big break to work for Johns-Hopkins (LONG after our business relationship had ended) you called me and thanked me AGAIN for getting you the start you needed which allowed you to have the right skillset and knowledge base that made you a good fit for your fund raising job. You might still be working there, I don't know. I DO know that the last time I called you to see how you were doing, you promised me a phone call that never came. You simply took a chickenshit way and started bad mouthing me from an new assumed name, without once telling me that you thought I had been wrong in any of my business matters, when I THOUGHT you were my friend. Just... wow.
I just remembered another double standard here. Remember when I called you from a gun shop in LaGrande Oregon? I was looking at an older Savage model 99 in 300 Savage which had a tang mounted peep sight for $400.00. YOU told me that I should buy it and then flip it here at 24hrcf. That the sight alone made it worth much more than the $400 price tag. So I did and it was. I have long ago now quit the gun flipping but you were a mentor and co conspiritor with me on that. And in fact the VERY FIRST internet firearms transaction I ever did was with you. The funny stocked pre-64 model 70 in 270WCF for your Rossi lever action in .454 Casull. I wish I still had that one!
Sean, You are forgetting a LOT of things about our friendship. And I don't know how you were raised, but in our world and in my family you do not live in a mans house (Our guest room and sometimes our travel trailer right next to the house, but eating and such here), eat at his table, go to his best varmint shooting and fishing spots as an invited guest and close friend and then without telling him become his arch enemy from the anonymiity of a new assumed name, and for YEARS now. At least without having the balls for and class to have a person to person conversation first with that freind who trusted you FIRST. Even if by phone or e-mail. It is just not done, if a man is a man of honor. Some would call that two faced, at a minimum.
But, FWIW, I forgive you completely and without reservation. And, I sincerely thank YOU for it was your signing that long diatribe against me that made me finally really take notice. I should have long before, perhaps, but I am only 55 and have a new lease on life for which I am truly grateful for to both God and my amazing cousin.
And, I really DO intend, plan on, focus toward etc. to make the second half or so of Mark / Safariman's life one that really truly honors God. And one that really counts for something in the eternal scheme of things. And THAT my friends, and only that, is why I am stepping back from here for a little bit. There really could be something wrong deep down that needs some significant work. I am open to the idea of that and will be exploring all the options and avenues of fixing and re building things.
To all who have made fun of my testimony as a Christian and a Gospel singer.... Steelhead especially, This is what pains me the most. I am so sorry that some of my actions have caused harm to come to the name of my Lord and Savior. You all cannot see into my heart of hearts, but I truly did genuinely care for and about not only my clients, and I did help them, but as best I could and can all with whom I come into contact. As for my clients, I would make the same recomendations to them if I was a third party giving advice to them without my name on any paperwork, even though Oregon DOI now has some really arbitrary and poorly thought out % maximums that did not exist when I wrote the annuities in question. More to the point, I really DO love God, and people. The best part of being in and out of Virginia Mason hospital for 6 weeks was the opportunity to spot hurting or worried people and pray with or for them.
As an Aside, THANK YOU MISS LYNN! For checking in on this point and confirming the reality of my hospitalization. and confirming the reality of my lovely bride, asphaltangel. I lover her SOOOO much....
I will post some photos from my surgery here when I come back, and of my Vietnam Vet freind enjoying his Browning semi auto 243 and Loopy scope - big grin on his face - when I do return here. And I shall return.
And I do love singing and giving God glory that HE deserves. And I am an unabashed evangalist (see the links to my ink, perhaps). Some think I am pretty good at it. I have never received a dime for any of this and I like it that way.
I will not be checking in back here to see what happens next in this thread, some of you if not most will continue to have your fun at my expense and I am fine with that. This is, after all, JUST the internet. In real life, and with the people who truly know me I am much liked and loved and THAT is what counts. As for here and for now, I am only going to keep communication going with the folks who I am PM'ing with and as I said before any or all of you are welcome to PM me and I will ad here that you are all invited to e-mail me at:
I'll be back sometime, but will not grab another assumed cybername. I will still be safariman. All will know who I am, and I am a man not afraid to face some personal demons and get 'em killed off, and will not take the cowards way of using some other name and hoping no one knows who I really am.
As well, I will not be one who percevorates over another persons presence here and stalks them and tries to hi jack their posts or threads. This place is supposed to be fun, and a place to talk about guns and politics and hunting and fishing and such. I remember when it was just that.
Whenever I return in full, I hope that I will be allowed to just be one of the posting members here, without the drama that none of us really needs and is not of a benefit to the campfire experience IMO.
Other than PM's or e-mails, I will see ya'll some time down the road.
Genuine wishes for Gods blessings upon you all,
Safariman
PS not going to do some stupid swan song post in the general campfire, either. Just be MIA for a while.
Good grief. Your response is predictably sad, and even more pridefully narcissistic than I thought you were. I'm going to attempt to deal only with the few pieces of relevant stuff in that litany of mostly irrelevant, barely comprehensible bullschit you rolled out.
The "Bankers Life" magazine article was, frankly, a lie. You have never cared more about anyone or anything else than yourself. You peddled that line of BS to yourself, clients/marks, the company that you then LIED TO (as detailed in the Oregon decision), and anyone else you've ever come across. Actions speak louder than words, and yours speak in volumes. Yes, you prayed each day for that which you said, but you ended EVERY one of them with a request for profitable sales and to make lots of money.
Yes, I worked for Bankers when I started. I did not, however, sell the same schit you did. I never sold indexed annuities, which you sold a ton of and still can't accurately describe how they work. I became one of the very few registered representatives for that company hold Federal financial licenses that you never had in order to be able to LEGALLY talk to clients about classes of investments and recommend investments and products outside of what Bankers offered. I left that chitty company when a branch manager without the licenses I had, or to oversee my business, tried to force me to sell improper products to a client in order to bolster his office numbers. I had that conversation with you, many times, and MANY times did I discuss with you that you didn't have the licenses to be dealing with entire classes of investments that you continued to deal with, and you didn't understand fully the products themselves. Your only consistent questions then were how you could get around those rules and how much the commissions were on things.
I have no doubt that Bankers Life & Casualty Co. may well be trying to rehire you, assuming you return to work and could manage to have an insurance license. That company is one of the very worst in the industry; they have no morals and the compliance and enforcement cases against them account for many volumes of rulings in every state they operate in. They lie, cheat, steal, train agents to do the same, and market extraordinarily bad products to elderly people. I know; I worked for them for a short time until I got my financial licenses and moved on.
Yes, I credited you with assisting me on certain aspects of the trade; appointment setting, fact-finding, and follow-up. Those things were important and have continued to help me. However, if you will notice, NONE of those are on technical specifics and none on compliance. You have never shown the proclivity with the technical aspects of what you sold, much less things you weren't licensed to discuss in the first place, and your compliance record and ethics stink.
The very fact that you would somehow try to take credit for any and all success I've had in life is just staggeringly narcissistic and flatly false. Oh, and as to your guess as to my faith practices (which you are also trying to take credit for), that is supposition on your part; irrelevant and extremely unChristlike.
Your claims of my betrayal of you are really rather funny. The few times I visited and worked with you, I NEVER slept in your home. I stayed at a hotel, or in the travel trailer in your driveway. The "meals at your table" were damned few and far between; generally it was pizza or some other take-out. I went varmint shooting once and fishing once. You are also forgetting the PMs here that I sent to you in order to convince you to quit your unlicensed dealing of firearms across state lines using the Internet (this site) as your means of conveyance. That, Mark, is a Federal felony; and each transaction could carry with it several years in a Federal prison. I did that because I thought you had any sense at all, and frankly the only thing that finally got through to you was the fact that Sherri would be just a liable as you were for every transaction because she's on here and either knew or should have known.
There's a difference between what you were doing (regular source of necessary income by those transactions), and a 99 bought so the sight and perhaps the firearm could be sold for a small profit (hobby exclusion covering irregular deals). Trying to paint me with that brush won't work, and in fact, it's par the course with you.
Let's talk about Oregon for a moment. Oregon didn't rescind your license because of a single deal with a percentage of asset rule violated. They SUSPENDED your license for that. They took your license for several cases that involved dishonesty, fraud, misrepresentation, forging documents, lying to investigators, clients, and your own company. That decision, not the percentage asset rule decision, cost you your license. You refuse to admit that, even though it's very plain in the text of the decision. You refuse to admit that you took money out of your own pocket and bought toys for yourself and stuff to try to sell when your wife had bald tires on her vehicle and household bills were needing to be paid. You refuse to admit that you've ever done anything wrong, regardless of the evidence and the facts in opposition to your belief. You're sick, and you need help.
However, it may be beyond that now. It is quite obvious that you lied on your bankruptcy declarations. You purposefully hid and failed to disclose assets, such as multiple firearms, the Harley-Davidson motorcycle, and the 5th wheel trailer (perhaps among others), that would not have been exempt under the Chapter 7 filing. That, Mark, is perjury and not only are you liable for that but so is Sherri.
There are enough people here who know now, and more than enough who have had more than they want to take of and from you that someone is very likely to contact the bankruptcy trustee (whose contact information has been located and posted in this thread) about those material facts, and your own words on this forum will serve as the evidence that you knew you had those assets and that you retained them during the time of the bankruptcy. At the VERY least, you could and probably will lose those assets. You, and Sherri, may well have your bankruptcy filing reopened and disallowed by the court, and it could get even worse than that. This is your doing, Mark. This is not my fault, not the fault of anyone who contacts the trustee, nor the trustee. This is your doing, Mark; you lied (again) for your own selfish personal benefit and it may well come back to finally, definitively, bite you in the ass. I suspect someone will make that call to the trustee and you'll have to own this one, Mark, because it's your name that swore under oath that you were being truthful in your disclosures when you were intentionally lying.
In your mind, I may be "cowardly", "two-faced", and "chickenschit". However, in your mind, you've never done anything wrong. In a mind like that, nothing is straight, and I'll say again, you need help. You never accepted any guidance or advice when it came from a friend, and you've never accepted any correction when it came from an anonymous source. You've never accepted fault when it came from a regulatory agency, and you're not accepting fault now even after the facts are public. If you wouldn't do that, trying to hit you with some aggressive corrective action from an "enemy" was about the only choice left. Instead of finally looking at yourself and realizing that you are exactly what people have been saying, you're playing the victim (again) in order to escape the facts. You need professional, psychiatric help Mark.
" There really could be something wrong deep down that needs some significant work. I am open to the idea of that and will be exploring all the options and avenues of fixing and re building things. "
the body of work this was taken from indicates that along with kidney failure SM has "I" trouble. rough count of 70 "I's" used. Mark you need to take a break and heal.
Strong with the Dark Side is this one, strong. Cheat, lie, con, and hurt people, he does. Stopped he must be.
Somebody did there home work, have any names and address of the people he cheated.
Contact any of the people he cheated in the past, I'll bet my life on it they would turn him in, no questions asked. He did that to me and I had a chance to get even, I know what I would do. Eye for a eye
I belong to a H1 Hummer forum and we have a member that acts similar to SM except his post are only outrageous on Friday and Saturday, He claims to have serious back problems which leads me to believe that maybe he takes stronger medications those two days and not the others because he has to function at work during the week. Only problem here is that for some reason I'm under the belief that SM doesn't have a job and there seem to not be a pattern to is dishonesty.It's just all the time.Then again maybe medication does play a part. On the other hand stupidity could play a major factor for both men. There's no helping stupid.
I belong to a H1 Hummer forum and we have a member that acts similar to SM except his post are only outrageous on Friday and Saturday, He claims to have serious back problems which leads me to believe that maybe he takes stronger medications those two days and not the others because he has to function at work during the week. Only problem here is that for some reason I'm under the belief that SM doesn't have a job and there seem to not be a pattern to is dishonesty.It's just all the time.Then again maybe medication does play a part. On the other hand stupidity could play a major factor for both men. There's no helping stupid.
You've been conned. It is not due to pain, medications, or stupidity. He has exhibited criminal behavior. Stop making excuses for him.
Men acquire a particular quality by constantly acting a particular way. We become just by performing just actions, temperate by performing temperate actions, brave by performing brave actions. Aristotle
My soon to be son in law is a MArine Corps veteran with war time service, a college graduate with a Masters degree in business admin, VP of a very successfull gymnasium equipment company, used to build and sell Big Dog and other custom big twin motorcycles, is an avid gun man, loves my daughter to no end, and is black from Jamaican born parents who emigrated here and worked thier butts off and tought thier children to do the same. Anyone here want to call him a racial slur? To his face? I shouldmention that he is 6'6" and just north of 300lbs even with no fat to speak of. Between him and my 6'3" 245lb tatto'ed self I doubt that there are many who would dare to talk as STUPIDLY and IGNORANTLY in our presence as they do from the anonymity of the internet.
I am excited about having HIS gene pool added to the Claiborne gene pool my daughter brings to the table. FWIW, She is 5'11" and 200lbs so the grandkids might be a tad bit expensive to feed but we will have to manage....
On a lighter note, my daughters STATED goal in life is to give birth to her own basketball team and offensive line. It looks like she is on a good path to realize her dreams! smile I could not be happier for the both of them and thier picture is prominently displayed in our home.
My soon to be son in law is a MArine Corps veteran with war time service, a college graduate with a Masters degree in business admin, VP of a very successfull gymnasium equipment company, used to build and sell Big Dog and other custom big twin motorcycles, is an avid gun man, loves my daughter to no end, and is black from Jamaican born parents who emigrated here and worked thier butts off and tought thier children to do the same. Anyone here want to call him a racial slur? To his face? I shouldmention that he is 6'6" and just north of 300lbs even with no fat to speak of. Between him and my 6'3" 245lb tatto'ed self I doubt that there are many who would dare to talk as STUPIDLY and IGNORANTLY in our presence as they do from the anonymity of the internet.
I am excited about having HIS gene pool added to the Claiborne gene pool my daughter brings to the table. FWIW, She is 5'11" and 200lbs so the grandkids might be a tad bit expensive to feed but we will have to manage....
On a lighter note, my daughters STATED goal in life is to give birth to her own basketball team and offensive line. It looks like she is on a good path to realize her dreams! smile I could not be happier for the both of them and thier picture is prominently displayed in our home.
I am NO theologian, or Clergyman by any stretch. I occasionally help put together a church service at local gun shows for the Vendors on some Sunday mornings, and preach a little, plus I (Very happily) sing in a Southern Gospel Quartet so these are just some thoughts from a reflective fellow layman.
I did use this firs example or thought in a sermon once.
If a young neihbor kid, maybe about 5 or 6, whom we barely know, comes to our door and gives us a piece of artwork that he or she has done for us, we will give a polite thank you, remark on its beauty, but it will then find its way quickly into the shredder or round file. HOWEVER, if our very OWN son or daughter 'makes' us a pretty picture, it goes right on the refridgerator door or a prominent wall! Why? What is the difference? Why is one 'offering' or gift accepted and loved, while the other of most likely equal talent is of so little value? Well, it is because the kid who gave us the second piece is OURS! This helps some understand why our works, before we accept Christs Lordship over us and become his very own adopted Children, by HIS choice and grace and unmerited love and favor are - as the Bible puts it- "As filthy rags" completely worthless and unable to get us one inch closer to God or to heaven and forgiveness. No, we have to first be as Jesus put it, BORN AGAIN spiritually. Then we are one if HIS children and our things done for him out of true love for him are then treasured and have value!
The other part of my thought on this topic came to me when I was discussing with my wife how much we love our little micro sized Wiener dog Milo. When he came to us, he could not even eat by himself, could not control his bowels or bladder at all, and could give us absolutely nothing of value to us. And at first I do not think he even had the capability to love us. All he was, was a wrinkly bundle of need, and he had special needs on top of normal puppy needs because he was born pre mature and a runt. He had to have artificial tears in his eyes several times a day at first, liquid puppy formula, and lots of attention with no reward back. But, Sherri and I DECIDED to Love him! Even now, he is hardheaded, stiff necked, and almost completely untrainable. Yet, we love him still, always.
If Sherri and I have the capacity to love that which does not DESERVE anything, and had nothing to give and still is mostly obstinant, how much MORE our great God, whose basic COMPONENT of his very BEING is Love, can love US! Even though we come to him with nothing of value or worth to him, and are most often obstinant and S L O W to learn and do better. Quite wonderful to think about, to my mind and heart.
Lastly, when God, by HIS choosing, and HIS mercy and HIS grace adopts us in as his own, he does a spiritual DNA change inside of us that is permanent. We become like him, just like my own Son as well as both of my daughters look and sound more and more like me each day. And ya know what? There is absolutely NOTHING that my son Daniel or my daughters Tabitha and Monica can do to change their DNA and bloodlines! They will see my face, every time they look in the mirror, forever. On top of that, there is NOTHING any of them could do or say that would make them unwelcome in my home, unworthy of my love and blessings and certainly nothing that could change the DNA strands or bloodliines that are my forever gift to them.
So, If my son Daniel cannot lose his place in my heart and home. And my daughters cannot lose my love and welcome and grreat desire to bless them and give them good gifts, (they cannot, By the way, totally impossible) How Much MORE is GODS love, and the spiritual DNA strands that he places in us when we are born into his kingdom and family BEYOND our ability to even COMPREHEND! Let alone make any kind of changes to. This change that is wrought by God and God alone is simply then beyond our ability then to nullify or make void just like - only infinately MORE so, just like our own children being unable to undue that in any real form.
Gods making of us into, his words, more like him every day. A "New Creature" and one of his very own! Such is too wonderful and amazing and unwarranted and undeserved.... I just thought I would make a laymans attempt at putting it out there and further encourage each of us to search our own hearts and relationships with the one true eternal, loving God.
Good night ya'll, and God bless.
MARK
Originally Posted by safariman
Been a rough couple of years for me with my Middle daughter not talking to me, again and at the same time the loss of career and health etc.
I got a call, though, from my youngest daughter who is currently the owner of a day spa in Sacramento that is finally doing pretty well. It is called "The spa above"
Well, as my youngest was recounting how God had led her to two difficult and life changing decisions, i.e. ending a relationship with a man and his kids that had been going strong for over two years and then the difficult decision to give up her salon to a friend - for free - and move back to Walla Walla I was blessed certainly that I get my baby girl back up here but what really got to me was her open spirit to God and his directions and leading! Sher recounted time after time of how God had spoken clearly to her through various methods but which direction was clear and took place either right after a time of prayer for her but twice even WHILE she was praying a text message or phone call came in that dealt directly with her prayers and requests and questions. In each case a call or text that was completely unexpected but which dealt directly with the direction of her prayer. How could I not shed tears of joy when my own daughter is exhibiting such spiritual maturity and wisdom but mostly God centeredness and faith......
Then came the best part.... My little girl recounted how blessed she felt to have been raised by Christian Parents who loved her enough to show her the way to live a Godly and God pleasing life. She went on to say - about the divorce - that "your rough spot in life and divorce does not and will not define your life" She is seemingly the only one of my three that see's me in the big picture and not purely though the colour of how I failed them by going though the divorce 8 plus years ago.
Yeah, hearing all of this from here made me tear up, and I am proud as can be of her and of my tears. Long time coming, I thought my friends here might like to hear of it.
Between him and my 6'3" 245lb tatto'ed self I doubt that there are many who would dare to talk as STUPIDLY and IGNORANTLY in our presence as they do from the anonymity of the internet.
Pompousman has had some doozies over the years but that could very well be my favorite. (well, that and the 148 IQ)
Pompousman's tatted-self couldn't make a chihuahua shake.
So if being over 6' and around 245 makes you tough I think I will go out bar hopping and look for entertainment tonight. See if it works better now than it did 40yrs ago?
Some of the biggest pussies I have ever known or met were 'tough' according to Markie Mark!!! Example was a customer I had who was 6'4ish" and probably 265 who would almost always start sniffling or bawling whenever I called him or confronted him in person concerning his account balance.lol Was funny and sad at the same time. He was early 20's then and 40ish when he was doing the nasty with a married woman here about a year ago whenever her hubby was working the rigs in the Bakken. She dumped him so he started doing her 14yr old daughter. Mommy found out and filed a complaint and a warrant was issued. He found out before Johnny Law found him and decided he wasn't going back to 'contained' living again for similar offense. Chose to suck a 12ga instead!! So that big tough guy took the easy way out! Guess 'big' does make you tough? Pretty sad really!
My soon to be son in law is a MArine Corps veteran with war time service, a college graduate with a Masters degree in business admin, VP of a very successfull gymnasium equipment company, used to build and sell Big Dog and other custom big twin motorcycles, is an avid gun man, loves my daughter to no end, and is black from Jamaican born parents who emigrated here and worked thier butts off and tought thier children to do the same. Anyone here want to call him a racial slur? To his face? I shouldmention that he is 6'6" and just north of 300lbs even with no fat to speak of. Between him and my 6'3" 245lb tatto'ed self I doubt that there are many who would dare to talk as STUPIDLY and IGNORANTLY in our presence as they do from the anonymity of the internet.
I am excited about having HIS gene pool added to the Claiborne gene pool my daughter brings to the table. FWIW, She is 5'11" and 200lbs so the grandkids might be a tad bit expensive to feed but we will have to manage....
On a lighter note, my daughters STATED goal in life is to give birth to her own basketball team and offensive line. It looks like she is on a good path to realize her dreams! smile I could not be happier for the both of them and thier picture is prominently displayed in our home.
[quote=safariman]Before our few resident judiaizing, joy stealing legalists chime in, I will quote first, the BIG one that now covers my right forearm.
Collosians 2:14
"Having CANCELLED the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us, he TOOK IT AWAY, nailing it to the cross" (added emphasis mine) Praise GOD! If THAT ain't some GOOD news for a change!
Some closer ups so that the detail of our trying to make it look as though the nails through the parchement are driven right into my flesh:
And we simply can not have the imbalance of only one forearm, now can we?
Left forearm, well covered:
The words say "SOLE FIDE!" Which means or translates "FAITH ALONE!"
as in not faith in Christ PLUS anything at all. Just Faith, just that with Gods truly amazing and boundless grace. Not faith plus this set of man made religious rules or religiosity, not faith plus a state church membership, not faith plus this book other than the bible or this other creed or rule or...... or..... or.... Just faith and Gods Grace from placing ones TRUST in Christ and the sufficiency of his sacrifice to pay for our sins and making him ones LORD of one's life. For as the Word of God says in Romans: "If you will beleive in your heart,and confess with your mouth, that Jesus is the Christ, He is LORD, that he is risen from the dead, you WILL be saved" (Again, I added a bit of all caps for some emphahsis) not might be, not if you do that AND something else. Just that. Faith ALONE and then the old laws that are there to be used as a judgement rulebook against those who have refused Christ and his sacrifice no longer apply to you. You are SAVED from that, and to a new life free from bondage and the penatly of eternal death.
For Jesus said, when asked about the law and commandments:
"Love the Lord god with all of your mind, all of your heart and all of your strength and the second is like unto it Love your neighbor as yourself, Upon thee hang ALL the law and the commandments" And when we think about it, if we do those things then we would natrually Worship God, fellowship with other beleivers regualrly, and not covet, steal from, commit adultry with or against, Murder, lie about or otherwise harm our fellow travellers here on this little rock.
It AINT all that tough, and I just HAVE to tell everyone this great news! So, I tatoo'ed some of it to spark conversations and opportuniy's to share this great news, sometimes reffered to as the Gospel. So far, it is working well, Praise the LORD!
MARK
PS For old times sake and maybe a few who have not seen them before, my old ones. Started all of this in 1990 with the three crosses and John 3:16 reference only and was warned sternly that I would be sorry about that first tatoo. So far, not so much! All are still there and spreading the good news or at least giving me opportunites to do that one on one .....
Between him and my 6'3" 245lb tatto'ed self I doubt that there are many who would dare to talk as STUPIDLY and IGNORANTLY in our presence as they do from the anonymity of the internet.
Pompousman has had some doozies over the years but that could very well be my favorite. (well, that and the 148 IQ)
Pompousman's tatted-self couldn't make a chihuahua shake.
I said in my 'see ya'll a bit later' post that I would be checking and replying to PM's here a couple of times a day. Don't know why then that anyone would bet that I would not do so. And I have. We have another member who now needs a kidney transplant and he and I are visiting about that matter. And, I have a couple of trades that are finalizing and I need to stay in touch with the guys I owe stuff to and vice versa.
I have not read this whole thread, not going to. But a little bird told me that someone thought I had run off scared or some such. Nothing could be further from the truth. I am not afraid of any of you, here on the 'net nor in person.
Most may not believe this, and that is OK, but I do realize that I have made some real mistakes here and in my life. I truly am using the time that I am not here to do the soul searching that I said I would and asking THE great physician and the only one who can fix what ails me, for help in doing just that.
Sean, buddy, you are forgetting the many times that you saw me pray to begin a day of appointments that God would help me to be of a help and a blessing to all whom I came in contact with at the start of a business day. And the Bankers Life Magazine article where I stated and was quoted as telling others who wanted to be successful like I had been when they wrote about me that " You have to care more about the person across the table from you more than about yourself. If you are not about improving other people's lives and making thier dreams come true, then you are not worthy to have YOUR dreams and plans come true" And I meant that, and conducted myself in that fashion. And, FWIW Bankers is trying to recruit me back now that I will be able to work again soon. That some Oregon DOI employees thought differently is beyond my control right now. If I had not begun getting so sick so fast toward the end of my carreer and been able to financially as well as energy wise continue my fight with them I am certain that before a real judge and opportunity to see the wholle of the interviews that the DOI made (and was allowed to only cherry pick the worst parts in the 'hearing' with no opportunity for my attorney to see the whole or cross examine) we would have won, easily. The hard number rules of how much money, in % form, one could put into an annuity were not put into the DOI code until AFTER I wrote the annuities in question.
And Sean, you are forgetting for some reason how you credited me, after we had parted ways proffesionally, for your time spent in a church praying one afternoon. That, according to you, it was my influence in your life that led to that afternoons time. I hope that you are still allowing God to rule and run your life. Also, you never ONCE suggested that I was doing anything wrong in my business affairs with Bankers or my clients. And for good reson, I WASN'T. Yeah, an Oregon DOI employee found me to have lied to investigators, when they compared notes from over 6 years of questioning me and found discrepncies when i had to go from memory each and every time plus truly was becoming very ill and weak, but there is not any mention of anyone being financially harmed by following my recomendations because they were not. AND, amigo, you are forgetting the many times that you called me to THANK ME for getting you started with Bankers Life - where you DID and WERE selling the exact same annuities that I was- and for mentoring you by the telephone many, many times to help you get a good start in the business. I happily spent HOURS on the phone with you both coaching and encouraging you. And I do not regret one single minute of that even now. Also, when you got your big break to work for Johns-Hopkins (LONG after our business relationship had ended) you called me and thanked me AGAIN for getting you the start you needed which allowed you to have the right skillset and knowledge base that made you a good fit for your fund raising job. You might still be working there, I don't know. I DO know that the last time I called you to see how you were doing, you promised me a phone call that never came. You simply took a chickenshit way and started bad mouthing me from an new assumed name, without once telling me that you thought I had been wrong in any of my business matters, when I THOUGHT you were my friend. Just... wow.
I just remembered another double standard here. Remember when I called you from a gun shop in LaGrande Oregon? I was looking at an older Savage model 99 in 300 Savage which had a tang mounted peep sight for $400.00. YOU told me that I should buy it and then flip it here at 24hrcf. That the sight alone made it worth much more than the $400 price tag. So I did and it was. I have long ago now quit the gun flipping but you were a mentor and co conspiritor with me on that. And in fact the VERY FIRST internet firearms transaction I ever did was with you. The funny stocked pre-64 model 70 in 270WCF for your Rossi lever action in .454 Casull. I wish I still had that one!
Sean, You are forgetting a LOT of things about our friendship. And I don't know how you were raised, but in our world and in my family you do not live in a mans house (Our guest room and sometimes our travel trailer right next to the house, but eating and such here), eat at his table, go to his best varmint shooting and fishing spots as an invited guest and close friend and then without telling him become his arch enemy from the anonymiity of a new assumed name, and for YEARS now. At least without having the balls for and class to have a person to person conversation first with that freind who trusted you FIRST. Even if by phone or e-mail. It is just not done, if a man is a man of honor. Some would call that two faced, at a minimum.
But, FWIW, I forgive you completely and without reservation. And, I sincerely thank YOU for it was your signing that long diatribe against me that made me finally really take notice. I should have long before, perhaps, but I am only 55 and have a new lease on life for which I am truly grateful for to both God and my amazing cousin.
And, I really DO intend, plan on, focus toward etc. to make the second half or so of Mark / Safariman's life one that really truly honors God. And one that really counts for something in the eternal scheme of things. And THAT my friends, and only that, is why I am stepping back from here for a little bit. There really could be something wrong deep down that needs some significant work. I am open to the idea of that and will be exploring all the options and avenues of fixing and re building things.
To all who have made fun of my testimony as a Christian and a Gospel singer.... Steelhead especially, This is what pains me the most. I am so sorry that some of my actions have caused harm to come to the name of my Lord and Savior. You all cannot see into my heart of hearts, but I truly did genuinely care for and about not only my clients, and I did help them, but as best I could and can all with whom I come into contact. As for my clients, I would make the same recomendations to them if I was a third party giving advice to them without my name on any paperwork, even though Oregon DOI now has some really arbitrary and poorly thought out % maximums that did not exist when I wrote the annuities in question. More to the point, I really DO love God, and people. The best part of being in and out of Virginia Mason hospital for 6 weeks was the opportunity to spot hurting or worried people and pray with or for them.
As an Aside, THANK YOU MISS LYNN! For checking in on this point and confirming the reality of my hospitalization. and confirming the reality of my lovely bride, asphaltangel. I lover her SOOOO much....
I will post some photos from my surgery here when I come back, and of my Vietnam Vet freind enjoying his Browning semi auto 243 and Loopy scope - big grin on his face - when I do return here. And I shall return.
And I do love singing and giving God glory that HE deserves. And I am an unabashed evangalist (see the links to my ink, perhaps). Some think I am pretty good at it. I have never received a dime for any of this and I like it that way.
I will not be checking in back here to see what happens next in this thread, some of you if not most will continue to have your fun at my expense and I am fine with that. This is, after all, JUST the internet. In real life, and with the people who truly know me I am much liked and loved and THAT is what counts. As for here and for now, I am only going to keep communication going with the folks who I am PM'ing with and as I said before any or all of you are welcome to PM me and I will ad here that you are all invited to e-mail me at:
I'll be back sometime, but will not grab another assumed cybername. I will still be safariman. All will know who I am, and I am a man not afraid to face some personal demons and get 'em killed off, and will not take the cowards way of using some other name and hoping no one knows who I really am.
As well, I will not be one who percevorates over another persons presence here and stalks them and tries to hi jack their posts or threads. This place is supposed to be fun, and a place to talk about guns and politics and hunting and fishing and such. I remember when it was just that.
Whenever I return in full, I hope that I will be allowed to just be one of the posting members here, without the drama that none of us really needs and is not of a benefit to the campfire experience IMO.
Other than PM's or e-mails, I will see ya'll some time down the road.
Genuine wishes for Gods blessings upon you all,
Safariman
PS not going to do some stupid swan song post in the general campfire, either. Just be MIA for a while.
Good grief. Your response is predictably sad, and even more pridefully narcissistic than I thought you were. I'm going to attempt to deal only with the few pieces of relevant stuff in that litany of mostly irrelevant, barely comprehensible bullschit you rolled out.
The "Bankers Life" magazine article was, frankly, a lie. You have never cared more about anyone or anything else than yourself. You peddled that line of BS to yourself, clients/marks, the company that you then LIED TO (as detailed in the Oregon decision), and anyone else you've ever come across. Actions speak louder than words, and yours speak in volumes. Yes, you prayed each day for that which you said, but you ended EVERY one of them with a request for profitable sales and to make lots of money.
Yes, I worked for Bankers when I started. I did not, however, sell the same schit you did. I never sold indexed annuities, which you sold a ton of and still can't accurately describe how they work. I became one of the very few registered representatives for that company hold Federal financial licenses that you never had in order to be able to LEGALLY talk to clients about classes of investments and recommend investments and products outside of what Bankers offered. I left that chitty company when a branch manager without the licenses I had, or to oversee my business, tried to force me to sell improper products to a client in order to bolster his office numbers. I had that conversation with you, many times, and MANY times did I discuss with you that you didn't have the licenses to be dealing with entire classes of investments that you continued to deal with, and you didn't understand fully the products themselves. Your only consistent questions then were how you could get around those rules and how much the commissions were on things.
I have no doubt that Bankers Life & Casualty Co. may well be trying to rehire you, assuming you return to work and could manage to have an insurance license. That company is one of the very worst in the industry; they have no morals and the compliance and enforcement cases against them account for many volumes of rulings in every state they operate in. They lie, cheat, steal, train agents to do the same, and market extraordinarily bad products to elderly people. I know; I worked for them for a short time until I got my financial licenses and moved on.
Yes, I credited you with assisting me on certain aspects of the trade; appointment setting, fact-finding, and follow-up. Those things were important and have continued to help me. However, if you will notice, NONE of those are on technical specifics and none on compliance. You have never shown the proclivity with the technical aspects of what you sold, much less things you weren't licensed to discuss in the first place, and your compliance record and ethics stink.
The very fact that you would somehow try to take credit for any and all success I've had in life is just staggeringly narcissistic and flatly false. Oh, and as to your guess as to my faith practices (which you are also trying to take credit for), that is supposition on your part; irrelevant and extremely unChristlike.
Your claims of my betrayal of you are really rather funny. The few times I visited and worked with you, I NEVER slept in your home. I stayed at a hotel, or in the travel trailer in your driveway. The "meals at your table" were damned few and far between; generally it was pizza or some other take-out. I went varmint shooting once and fishing once. You are also forgetting the PMs here that I sent to you in order to convince you to quit your unlicensed dealing of firearms across state lines using the Internet (this site) as your means of conveyance. That, Mark, is a Federal felony; and each transaction could carry with it several years in a Federal prison. I did that because I thought you had any sense at all, and frankly the only thing that finally got through to you was the fact that Sherri would be just a liable as you were for every transaction because she's on here and either knew or should have known.
There's a difference between what you were doing (regular source of necessary income by those transactions), and a 99 bought so the sight and perhaps the firearm could be sold for a small profit (hobby exclusion covering irregular deals). Trying to paint me with that brush won't work, and in fact, it's par the course with you.
Let's talk about Oregon for a moment. Oregon didn't rescind your license because of a single deal with a percentage of asset rule violated. They SUSPENDED your license for that. They took your license for several cases that involved dishonesty, fraud, misrepresentation, forging documents, lying to investigators, clients, and your own company. That decision, not the percentage asset rule decision, cost you your license. You refuse to admit that, even though it's very plain in the text of the decision. You refuse to admit that you took money out of your own pocket and bought toys for yourself and stuff to try to sell when your wife had bald tires on her vehicle and household bills were needing to be paid. You refuse to admit that you've ever done anything wrong, regardless of the evidence and the facts in opposition to your belief. You're sick, and you need help.
However, it may be beyond that now. It is quite obvious that you lied on your bankruptcy declarations. You purposefully hid and failed to disclose assets, such as multiple firearms, the Harley-Davidson motorcycle, and the 5th wheel trailer (perhaps among others), that would not have been exempt under the Chapter 7 filing. That, Mark, is perjury and not only are you liable for that but so is Sherri.
There are enough people here who know now, and more than enough who have had more than they want to take of and from you that someone is very likely to contact the bankruptcy trustee (whose contact information has been located and posted in this thread) about those material facts, and your own words on this forum will serve as the evidence that you knew you had those assets and that you retained them during the time of the bankruptcy. At the VERY least, you could and probably will lose those assets. You, and Sherri, may well have your bankruptcy filing reopened and disallowed by the court, and it could get even worse than that. This is your doing, Mark. This is not my fault, not the fault of anyone who contacts the trustee, nor the trustee. This is your doing, Mark; you lied (again) for your own selfish personal benefit and it may well come back to finally, definitively, bite you in the ass. I suspect someone will make that call to the trustee and you'll have to own this one, Mark, because it's your name that swore under oath that you were being truthful in your disclosures when you were intentionally lying.
In your mind, I may be "cowardly", "two-faced", and "chickenschit". However, in your mind, you've never done anything wrong. In a mind like that, nothing is straight, and I'll say again, you need help. You never accepted any guidance or advice when it came from a friend, and you've never accepted any correction when it came from an anonymous source. You've never accepted fault when it came from a regulatory agency, and you're not accepting fault now even after the facts are public. If you wouldn't do that, trying to hit you with some aggressive corrective action from an "enemy" was about the only choice left. Instead of finally looking at yourself and realizing that you are exactly what people have been saying, you're playing the victim (again) in order to escape the facts. You need professional, psychiatric help Mark.
A quick search of just some of his posts starting from current and going back to around the first date listed in the link to the official record of their bankruptcy filing someone posted earlier are nothing less than amazing but in an absurd way.
Surely they were formally advised that their trustee has 1 full year to come back on them for any undeclared nonexempt assets including the potential penalties for not disclosing such.
Still yet he continued to ramble on and on about firearms he still has in his possession, even mentioning some in detail, details as well as photos of his motorcycle, etc., etc., leaving a documented trail in print in his own words.
With or without the Superglued-on winch mounted to the rear spoiler/ sun visor dealymabob? The one he used to drag the ass-shot bear into the bed...
I am curious if the Trustee has acquired the search warrant and seized all Mark's possessions and started cataloging what he didn't declare as assets? If it hasn't happened, I suspect he and AA are frantically moving their stuff to storage lockers as we type.
Me thinks his absence from here will be longer than he anticipated.
I certainly hope so! Obviously, I would not purchase anything from Mark. I would not sell anything to him either. How long until we start seeing "No sales to California or Safariman" in the classifieds?
Unless that's the Trustee checking his posts and PM's...
Does anyone know for sure if the trustee has been informed?
Not I, but I am sure the information is back a page or 2- if you want to make sure someone lit his shirt-tail on fire.....
After re-reading some of the old posts, like the Magazine sale Mark did, he surely has balls when he sells stuff, and we are gullable .
I am pretty sure Mark has enough enemies here to have contacted the Trustee, but if 10 folks contact him maybe the whole office in Washington will help MARK find all of his assets, before he hides his stuff.
The gun was resold to the last guy who bought it from Mark... maybe 15 pages back...lol
The question has been asked, did the gun return to the buyer in the condition the seller says, even though the pictures were from before it went to a gunsmith and hunting...... or was it smithed before the buyer bought it last time....
And who did the rechambering, did Mark figure out who the gunsmith was...
Oh wait, he did recall who in California did the gunsmithing/ rechambering....
TFF
SO CORNFUSING....
Any washington guys call the Trustee yet? It might be fun to print all Mark's posts and deliver them to the Trustee. I think he will follow through, as I think he makes a commission on all the items sold ......
Unless that's the Trustee checking his posts and PM's...
Does anyone know for sure if the trustee has been informed?
I am curious about this as well. Based on the level of vitriol on this thread, I would have thought a sizable number of members here would have been falling all over themselves in trying to contact the trustee, Mr. Munding.
In no way am I defending safariman. I just find it interesting that when the golden opportunity presented itself to really turn the screws on the guy and basically rid the 'Fire of his antics, there was/is a lot of blustering but no one here has seemed to follow through. Perhaps someone has gotten in touch with the trustee and kept quiet about it but that would only add to the intrigue, IMO.
Unless that's the Trustee checking his posts and PM's...
Does anyone know for sure if the trustee has been informed?
I am curious about this as well. Based on the level of vitriol on this thread, I would have thought a sizable number of members here would have been falling all over themselves in trying to contact the trustee, Mr. Munding.
In no way am I defending safariman. I just find it interesting that when the golden opportunity presented itself to really turn the screws on the guy and basically rid the 'Fire of his antics, there was/is a lot of blustering but no one here has seemed to follow through. Perhaps someone has gotten in touch with the trustee and kept quiet about it but that would only add to the intrigue, IMO.
Can't say for certain but this sure does sound to me as if 260Remguy is implying it's a done deal.
Little birdie told me that ALL the threads in question, along with the pictures were printed out. A detailed letter composed laying it all out, along with URL links... sent.
Hate to be "safariman" should the trustee take action.
Every professional hater on the Campfire has appeared, lied, made threats, apparently even spent money to get documents to further slander a member with a serious health issue.
Mark is being provided with detailed information on who you cowards are as you think (LOL) the internet makes you safe from discovery.
Doing a pile on on a guy who might die is really not very bright when he knows who you are and where you live is or will soon be in his hands.
In case you missed it, Mark's case has been discharged and if you think, in your haters' dreams that any court will reopen it based on a bunch of crap from known serial liars and haters you must be in Kaliroda smoking weed.
The only nasti baastard that has not appeared in old Bricktop, but it appears that he has dropped off the site now that his whole profile has been sent along to many he slandered or worked to get tossed off the site.
On this thread as many others you haters talk big and bluster a lot, but when the rubber hits the road you are nowhere to be seen.
As for the Texas ape, we would hate to be you if Safariman really gets poed.
As the old "spy vs spy" joke went: "we know who you are, we know where you live." (either do or soon will). LAFFIN !
Every professional hater on the Campfire has appeared, lied, made threats, apparently even spent money to get documents to further slander a member with a serious health issue.
Mark is being provided with detailed information on who you cowards are as you think (LOL) the internet makes you safe from discovery.
Doing a pile on on a guy who might die is really not very bright when he knows who you are and where you live is or will soon be in his hands.
In case you missed it, Mark's case has been discharged and if you think, in your haters' dreams that any court will reopen it based on a bunch of crap from known serial liars and haters you must be in Kaliroda smoking weed.
The only nasti baastard that has not appeared in old Bricktop, but it appears that he has dropped off the site now that his whole profile has been sent along to many he slandered or worked to get tossed off the site.
On this thread as many others you haters talk big and bluster a lot, but when the rubber hits the road you are nowhere to be seen.
As for the Texas ape, we would hate to be you if Safariman really gets poed.
As the old "spy vs spy" joke went: "we know who you are, we know where you live." (either do or soon will). LAFFIN !
Sounds like you might be safariman's newest username
Every professional hater on the Campfire has appeared, lied, made threats, apparently even spent money to get documents to further slander a member with a serious health issue.
Mark is being provided with detailed information on who you cowards are as you think (LOL) the internet makes you safe from discovery.
Doing a pile on on a guy who might die is really not very bright when he knows who you are and where you live is or will soon be in his hands.
In case you missed it, Mark's case has been discharged and if you think, in your haters' dreams that any court will reopen it based on a bunch of crap from known serial liars and haters you must be in Kaliroda smoking weed.
The only nasti baastard that has not appeared in old Bricktop, but it appears that he has dropped off the site now that his whole profile has been sent along to many he slandered or worked to get tossed off the site.
On this thread as many others you haters talk big and bluster a lot, but when the rubber hits the road you are nowhere to be seen.
As for the Texas ape, we would hate to be you if Safariman really gets poed.
As the old "spy vs spy" joke went: "we know who you are, we know where you live." (either do or soon will). LAFFIN !
Please don't jump on me, just asking a legitimate question. Exactly when did this evil side of Safariman rear it's head?
I've been a member here for about 5yrs and it seems he was a very respected member of the board when I joined and for a good while thereafter. I've done a deal or two with him in the past, mainly just bullet trades, and they went smoothly. This was a good while back, and after reading some of the threads about the insurance dealings, the possible bankruptcy fraud, the Charger debacle, and the Uberlanche, I'd be leary to deal with him any longer.
I do have the custom 257Wby he had built years ago on a Pre-64 action in my safe. I bought it here on the fire second or third hand, not directly from Safariman. However, on the sale threads at the time, there were nothing but great things said by many members about both the rifle and Mark himself. It is one of my favorite rifles and I don't ever see it leaving my safe.
I see you're still hiding under multiple screen names and behind proxy IP addresses. As nothing has changed with you (not surprised) it appears you fired your so called "Priest". Everyone knew you were full of bovine excrement.
Give ya a little more rope before the BAN hammer falls on your rotten diseased gourd...
Every professional hater on the Campfire has appeared, lied, made threats, apparently even spent money to get documents to further slander a member with a serious health issue.
Mark is being provided with detailed information on who you cowards are as you think (LOL) the internet makes you safe from discovery.
Doing a pile on on a guy who might die is really not very bright when he knows who you are and where you live is or will soon be in his hands.
In case you missed it, Mark's case has been discharged and if you think, in your haters' dreams that any court will reopen it based on a bunch of crap from known serial liars and haters you must be in Kaliroda smoking weed.
The only nasti baastard that has not appeared in old Bricktop, but it appears that he has dropped off the site now that his whole profile has been sent along to many he slandered or worked to get tossed off the site.
On this thread as many others you haters talk big and bluster a lot, but when the rubber hits the road you are nowhere to be seen.
As for the Texas ape, we would hate to be you if Safariman really gets poed.
As the old "spy vs spy" joke went: "we know who you are, we know where you live." (either do or soon will). LAFFIN !
Please don't jump on me, just asking a legitimate question. Exactly when did this evil side of Safariman rear it's head?
I've been a member here for about 5yrs and it seems he was a very respected member of the board when I joined and for a good while thereafter. I've done a deal or two with him in the past, mainly just bullet trades, and they went smoothly. This was a good while back, and after reading some of the threads about the insurance dealings, the possible bankruptcy fraud, the Charger debacle, and the Uberlanche, I'd be leary to deal with him any longer.
I do have the custom 257Wby he had built years ago on a Pre-64 action in my safe. I bought it here on the fire second or third hand, not directly from Safariman. However, on the sale threads at the time, there were nothing but great things said by many members about both the rifle and Mark himself. It is one of my favorite rifles and I don't ever see it leaving my safe.
When did all this change?
Where you been for the past five years. What's being discovered is that it's been this way all-along.
Every professional hater on the Campfire has appeared, lied, made threats, apparently even spent money to get documents to further slander a member with a serious health issue.
Mark is being provided with detailed information on who you cowards are as you think (LOL) the internet makes you safe from discovery.
Doing a pile on on a guy who might die is really not very bright when he knows who you are and where you live is or will soon be in his hands.
In case you missed it, Mark's case has been discharged and if you think, in your haters' dreams that any court will reopen it based on a bunch of crap from known serial liars and haters you must be in Kaliroda smoking weed.
The only nasti baastard that has not appeared in old Bricktop, but it appears that he has dropped off the site now that his whole profile has been sent along to many he slandered or worked to get tossed off the site.
On this thread as many others you haters talk big and bluster a lot, but when the rubber hits the road you are nowhere to be seen.
As for the Texas ape, we would hate to be you if Safariman really gets poed.
As the old "spy vs spy" joke went: "we know who you are, we know where you live." (either do or soon will). LAFFIN !
Larry,
You don't need to sneak around on my account. If, as has been alleged, Mr. Claiborne hid assets from his creditors, I think that the trustee, and the creditors who he represented, have a right to know.
# | Last Online | Display Name | Status Total Posts Location Occupation safariman (Member #8086) User Registered On: 06/18/05 07:30 PM Last Online: Today at 02:45 PM 27407 All over the place! missing Africa retired, mentaly disabled, and still conning people
Safariman by pm: "I probably should sell my equally beautiful Mausers in 416 Rigby and 220 Swift. Maybe my old school bench rest rifle with stunning tiger stripe Walnut and Rosewood plus a new Lilja 3 groove heavy barrel built on an L-461 Sako action and now in 223"
I have never commented on one of the safariman posts or threads; but, I don't know which is the more painful: Watching safariman come here and repeatedly engage in masochistic posting for which he knows he will take a beating or watching the homunculus from Alaska engage in his never-ending stream of mental masturbation and the sycophantic circle jerk that normally accompanies it.
Please don't jump on me, just asking a legitimate question. Exactly when did this evil side of Safariman rear it's head?
I've been a member here for about 5yrs and it seems he was a very respected member of the board when I joined and for a good while thereafter. I've done a deal or two with him in the past, mainly just bullet trades, and they went smoothly. This was a good while back, and after reading some of the threads about the insurance dealings, the possible bankruptcy fraud, the Charger debacle, and the Uberlanche, I'd be leary to deal with him any longer.
I do have the custom 257Wby he had built years ago on a Pre-64 action in my safe. I bought it here on the fire second or third hand, not directly from Safariman. However, on the sale threads at the time, there were nothing but great things said by many members about both the rifle and Mark himself. It is one of my favorite rifles and I don't ever see it leaving my safe.
When did all this change?
He has always been a con man.
The dealings that went well were part of his con. He depended on those who had good dealings to speak up. And they almost always did. That allowed him to get away with ripping people off when he needed to.
The dealings that went well were part of his con. He depended on those who had good dealings to speak up. And they almost always did. That allowed him to get away with ripping people off when he needed to.
I have never commented on one of the safariman posts or threads; but, I don't know which is the more painful: Watching safariman come here and repeatedly engage in masochistic posting for which he knows he will take a beating or watching the homunculus from Alaska engage in his never-ending stream of mental masturbation and the sycophantic circle jerk that normally accompanies it.
Well, it's safe to say that Karma has certainly, and definitively, caught up to both of them (or is at least in the process).
Please don't jump on me, just asking a legitimate question. Exactly when did this evil side of Safariman rear it's head?
I've been a member here for about 5yrs and it seems he was a very respected member of the board when I joined and for a good while thereafter. I've done a deal or two with him in the past, mainly just bullet trades, and they went smoothly. This was a good while back, and after reading some of the threads about the insurance dealings, the possible bankruptcy fraud, the Charger debacle, and the Uberlanche, I'd be leary to deal with him any longer.
I do have the custom 257Wby he had built years ago on a Pre-64 action in my safe. I bought it here on the fire second or third hand, not directly from Safariman. However, on the sale threads at the time, there were nothing but great things said by many members about both the rifle and Mark himself. It is one of my favorite rifles and I don't ever see it leaving my safe.
When did all this change?
He has always been a con man.
The dealings that went well were part of his con. He depended on those who had good dealings to speak up. And they almost always did. That allowed him to get away with ripping people off when he needed to.
Please don't jump on me, just asking a legitimate question. Exactly when did this evil side of Safariman rear it's head?
I've been a member here for about 5yrs and it seems he was a very respected member of the board when I joined and for a good while thereafter. I've done a deal or two with him in the past, mainly just bullet trades, and they went smoothly. This was a good while back, and after reading some of the threads about the insurance dealings, the possible bankruptcy fraud, the Charger debacle, and the Uberlanche, I'd be leary to deal with him any longer.
I do have the custom 257Wby he had built years ago on a Pre-64 action in my safe. I bought it here on the fire second or third hand, not directly from Safariman. However, on the sale threads at the time, there were nothing but great things said by many members about both the rifle and Mark himself. It is one of my favorite rifles and I don't ever see it leaving my safe.
When did all this change?
He has always been a con man.
The dealings that went well were part of his con. He depended on those who had good dealings to speak up. And they almost always did. That allowed him to get away with ripping people off when he needed to.
Travis
I've gotten the same opinion from a couple of other members through PM's. Guess I was lucky in that I only did small deals with him as a Newby to this site and they went smoothly. I definitely think I'll avoid any dealings with him in the future in light of all these new details. There are too many other good guys on here that always seem ready and able to fill my rifle looney needs!
What a bunch of cowardly azzwipes. You all hide on this site behind your screen names thinking you are safe from identification.
You all will be identified as we have both the resources and the time to nail you all down. That information will be passed to Mark to do with as he sees fit.
Just so you know, there are many people on this site who know Larry Root, have done many deals with him and never had a problem.
No this poster is not Larry, as much as you wish otherwise as you would like to believe there is only one person who finds you wimp scumbags a waste of bandwidth. You may get THIS user ID banned but it will do nothing to interrupt our research on the worst of the worst. You know who you are and it is sad to see some other members swallowing your lies and slander without knowing Mark or any of you from a pile of cow dung (which you resemble).
Tatelaw, you are a SUCKER. By your own admission you dealt with Mark and had no problems. But DUH you are willing to take the word of these serial liars that Mark is a crook. Where's beef man ?
Hide in your closets, you are typical of the wimp nation the USA is becoming. Men deal with men FTF, wimps hide in closets and spread pollution. We all know that if it is on the internet it must be true, right.
You are only tolerated on this site because you help the income of the site owner, that's why BigStick and Bricktop are back.
Go on with your stupid BS, someday the piper will be paid.
Quite comical that "douchebag" Root always likes to indicate folks are "hiding" behind their keyboards, when the old girl is the poster child of hiding and pretending to be ANYONE other than his paranoid delusional pathetic self (even going as far to pretend to be his wife Karen!)... innumerable screen names, proxy and anonymous IP servers to generate false IP addresses. Gets rather old and boring.
Fact is old goat, many of us know one another off the board. Get togethers, breaking bread, hunting, shooting, etc.
You're the odd "man" out as NO one wants to associate and deal with a paranoid sociopath and geriatric TROLL.
How funny that serial liar, slanderer and coward 4ager adopts the logo of heros and patriots whist he hides in his closet dispensing medical opinions that he is in no way qualified to make, but what the heck tell a lie often enough and loud enough it becomes fact, as Lenin and the Nazis proved.
Larry is hardly deranged as the dozens of MEN who have done seamless deal with him right here under your troll nose can attest to. You on the other hand, well you record speaks for itself.
As per usual referring to himself in the third person... always pretending to be someone else. Sick, deranged, and utterly pathetic shell of a "man" you are Root.
Another serial troll and liar hiding in his closet is heard from. His sole contribution to this site is spending countless hours chasing this phantom Larry Root whom he is too cowardly to deal with FTF (as are the rest of the trolls). So frustrated chasing this ghost for what is it now, 8 years with no victory in site. Larry happily uses this site to buy/trade stuff under the dumb ape's nose and all he can do is ban yet another user ID. Censorship, the mark of a true coward. All of your troll threats and lies are on the record for Mark's use as he sees fit.
You, as the rest, will be outed. Ask Bricktop and NSAQAM among others already in the hands of real MEN you cowards have driven off the site.
Another serial troll and liar hiding in his closet is heard from. His sole contribution to this site is spending countless hours chasing this phantom Larry Root whom he is too cowardly to deal with FTF (as are the rest of the trolls). So frustrated chasing this ghost for what is it now, 8 years with no victory in site. Larry happily uses this site to buy/trade stuff under the dumb ape's nose and all he can do is ban yet another user ID. Censorship, the mark of a true coward. All of your troll threats and lies are on the record for Mark's use as he sees fit.
You, as the rest, will be outed. Ask Bricktop and NSAQAM among others already in the hands of real MEN you cowards have driven off the site.
nsaqam died, he didn't "run off".
As for "Mark's use as he sees fit", that'd be interesting. I assume that you're giving him legal advice now?
A considerable number of people on this site know me personally! Just not you rooty-toot "douchebag" Root! Partly because it drives you absolutely bat sheit INSANE (more so than you already are) and the other is because you only wish to cause drama off board.
You're a sick, twisted, deranged, sociopath. But I have to admit it's mildly amusing to wind you up and watch you flap about online. <chuckle>
Another serial troll and liar hiding in his closet is heard from. His sole contribution to this site is spending countless hours chasing this phantom Larry Root whom he is too cowardly to deal with FTF (as are the rest of the trolls). So frustrated chasing this ghost for what is it now, 8 years with no victory in site. Larry happily uses this site to buy/trade stuff under the dumb ape's nose and all he can do is ban yet another user ID. Censorship, the mark of a true coward. All of your troll threats and lies are on the record for Mark's use as he sees fit.
You, as the rest, will be outed. Ask Bricktop and NSAQAM among others already in the hands of real MEN you cowards have driven off the site.
Yep, Kennyboy, as you called him, did pass.
But, Bricktop is still alive and well, last seen headed to Pinedale...
Originally Posted by oldman1942 Larry "Douchebag" Root
You, as the rest, will be outed. Ask Bricktop and NSAQAM among others already in the hands of "real MEN" you cowards have driven off the site.
"real men"... the disembodied male voices in your diseased paranoid delusional mind, or are you referring to the posse of limp wristed, geriatric cross dressers that you hang out with? I hear like you, they swing a mean purse.... You go girl! <chuckle>
Originally Posted by oldman1942 Larry "Douchebag" Root
You, as the rest, will be outed. Ask Bricktop and NSAQAM among others already in the hands of "real MEN" you cowards have driven off the site.
"real men"... the disembodied male voices in your diseased paranoid delusional mind, or are you referring to the posse of limp wristed, geriatric cross dressers that you hang out with? I hear like you, they swing a mean purse.... You go girl! <chuckle>
What would be worse is the by-product of their loins if they could mate with each other.
Think about it....
Damn woman, that is some scary and disgusting 'what if' you have brought forth.
Take the 'tadpoles' from these 2 dipsticks and dump them in a jar and find someone like 'Octomom' to carry IT until term you would have a combo of Bernie Madhoff, Charles Manson and Bruce Jenner and maybe Chaz Bono! Damn, I gotta go upchuck! URP!
Safariman by pm: "I probably should sell my equally beautiful Mausers in 416 Rigby and 220 Swift. Maybe my old school bench rest rifle with stunning tiger stripe Walnut and Rosewood plus a new Lilja 3 groove heavy barrel built on an L-461 Sako action and now in 223"
Yes, the .416 Rigby that Karnis did the stock work and for free to boot!
All full custom, From the keep forever list, your tit sticks out to 40DD in a lawn chair, and you just mounted an original Liberty Bell on your bitchin' Harley.
Safariman by pm: "I probably should sell my equally beautiful Mausers in 416 Rigby and 220 Swift. Maybe my old school bench rest rifle with stunning tiger stripe Walnut and Rosewood plus a new Lilja 3 groove heavy barrel built on an L-461 Sako action and now in 223"
Yes, the .416 Rigby that Karnis did the stock work and for free to boot!
This it?
Originally Posted by safariman
Originally Posted by FAIR_CHASE
Originally Posted by safariman
I just spoke with him, here is my intel from that. Carlos needs our prayers:
I want to post photos of the rifle he did for me, but my photobucket account is acting wonky right now.
Hopefully soon I can get the photos up here. Pray for him when you think of it.
LIES ... Makes us wonder what you told your wife to marry you.
Oh really now...
Here is the photo of the stock right after Karnis finished it. Posted this at the time. This photos is oft posted and well known. Scope eye 416 and many others have handled or fired the rifle, including several at Scott F's home when he hosted a 24hrcf event there.
Why would you suggest such a thing, when you have less than zero knowledge or background.
Safariman by pm: "I probably should sell my equally beautiful Mausers in 416 Rigby and 220 Swift. Maybe my old school bench rest rifle with stunning tiger stripe Walnut and Rosewood plus a new Lilja 3 groove heavy barrel built on an L-461 Sako action and now in 223"
Yes, the .416 Rigby that Karnis did the stock work and for free to boot!
This it?
Originally Posted by safariman
Originally Posted by FAIR_CHASE
Originally Posted by safariman
I just spoke with him, here is my intel from that. Carlos needs our prayers:
I want to post photos of the rifle he did for me, but my photobucket account is acting wonky right now.
Hopefully soon I can get the photos up here. Pray for him when you think of it.
LIES ... Makes us wonder what you told your wife to marry you.
Oh really now...
Here is the photo of the stock right after Karnis finished it. Posted this at the time. This photos is oft posted and well known. Scope eye 416 and many others have handled or fired the rifle, including several at Scott F's home when he hosted a 24hrcf event there.
Why would you suggest such a thing, when you have less than zero knowledge or background.
What a bunch of cowardly azzwipes. You all hide on this site behind your screen names thinking you are safe from identification.
You all will be identified as we have both the resources and the time to nail you all down. That information will be passed to Mark to do with as he sees fit.
Just so you know, there are many people on this site who know Larry Root, have done many deals with him and never had a problem.
No this poster is not Larry, as much as you wish otherwise as you would like to believe there is only one person who finds you wimp scumbags a waste of bandwidth. You may get THIS user ID banned but it will do nothing to interrupt our research on the worst of the worst. You know who you are and it is sad to see some other members swallowing your lies and slander without knowing Mark or any of you from a pile of cow dung (which you resemble).
Tatelaw, you are a SUCKER. By your own admission you dealt with Mark and had no problems. But DUH you are willing to take the word of these serial liars that Mark is a crook. Where's beef man ?
Hide in your closets, you are typical of the wimp nation the USA is becoming. Men deal with men FTF, wimps hide in closets and spread pollution. We all know that if it is on the internet it must be true, right.
You are only tolerated on this site because you help the income of the site owner, that's why BigStick and Bricktop are back.
Go on with your stupid BS, someday the piper will be paid.
Are you the same guy that was terrified Bricktop was going to show up at his place? Was there not some sort of bet that you Welched on as well ? GTFO ball washer.
I'd really like to have this rifle but the way I read this it was a .257Wby first. Then rechambered to .300 or 7mm Rem Mag then to Mashburn. Either way those bullets would all be a pretty tight fit unless it was rebored as well. Although I bet the velocity #'s are probably high.
Be glad to have a battle with ya, wits or otherwise. All the best, MARK
If there were Olympic games for douche-bags, this would take gold.
Travis
Any idea what the "otherwise" might include or excluded.
Swordfight?
If it's a sword fight, rest assured that his sword will be the very best, will be coated in moly and will cut air/flesh 200fps faster than anyone else's like sword.
How is his donor doing, funny never seemed to follow up on her much.
With those trophy man boobs(after seeing his I feel....well, kind of small) and a kidney from a female he will be menstruating and hinting for donations to acquire 'a Jenner' in the next 6 months I am betting. He better set on them nuts like a hen on a nest cause like I said I would give near anything to give him a nut tuck with my Nike.
This whole thread reminds me of a couple of recent wars. The good guys are racking up a high body count but are still going to loose the war.
The ball is in the trustee's court, so how he plays it is up to him.
My friend that's a trustee said he would look into this if the trustee of Marks BR is not willing to do anything. He said fraud is fraud and he could use the extra cash in his pocket
send what you got on Mark to his guy >> Honorable Robert N Opel II, United States Bankruptcy Judge Middle District of Pennsylvania
Does that district have jurisdiction in Washington State?
Maybe Mark will get free health care where he belongs.
Bankruptcy is federal so I would think jurisdiction is anywhere in the US, a federal judge is a federal judge, if not I'm sure Opel would get the ball rolling in the right direction.
I have a Holland&Holland Royal in 300 H&H magnum for sale. It's been mostly a safe queen and just has a few handling marks. I'm offering it for $29,000. It might actually be worth much more than that because it's been mis-stamped. The craftsman at H&H had probably been drinking and stamped it "Savage", but don't pay any attention to that. It really is an H&H. Case not included.
I have a Holland&Holland Royal in 300 H&H magnum for sale. It's been mostly a safe queen and just has a few handling marks. I'm offering it for $29,000. It might actually be worth much more than that because it's been mis-stamped. The craftsman at H&H had probably been drinking and stamped it "Savage", but don't pay any attention to that. It really is an H&H. Case not included.
I have a Holland&Holland Royal in 300 H&H magnum for sale. It's been mostly a safe queen and just has a few handling marks. I'm offering it for $29,000. It might actually be worth much more than that because it's been mis-stamped. The craftsman at H&H had probably been drinking and stamped it "Savage", but don't pay any attention to that. It really is an H&H. Case not included.
I have a Holland&Holland Royal in 300 H&H magnum for sale. It's been mostly a safe queen and just has a few handling marks. I'm offering it for $29,000. It might actually be worth much more than that because it's been mis-stamped. The craftsman at H&H had probably been drinking and stamped it "Savage", but don't pay any attention to that. It really is an H&H. Case not included.
All sales final?
Yeah, all sales are final. The money has already been spent. I bought my wife some used tires and myself a new, high-performance Harley Davidson, and a custom rifle. To make up for the difference, I kept her up half the night. She's still smiling.
A charlatan (also called swindler) is a person practising quackery or some similar confidence trick in order to obtain money, fame or other advantages via some form of pretense or deception.
This is a narcissist greatest trait. They often live in a world they created and only they understand how said world operates.
That world perplexes me. But a few short weeks ago:
Apparently "looking at cash flow" isn't a strong suit. That unto itself is odd because he's better at everything else, done more than most, and, has/had far "cooler stuff" than anyone here.
This is a narcissist greatest trait. They often live in a world they created and only they understand how said world operates.
That world perplexes me. But a few short weeks ago:
Apparently "looking at cash flow" isn't a strong suit. That unto itself is odd because he's better at everything else, done more than most, and, has/had far "cooler stuff" than anyone here.
safariman started this thread on 5/18/15 1:16pm very interesting.
This is a narcissist greatest trait. They often live in a world they created and only they understand how said world operates.
That world perplexes me. But a few short weeks ago:
Apparently "looking at cash flow" isn't a strong suit. That unto itself is odd because he's better at everything else, done more than most, and, has/had far "cooler stuff" than anyone here.
The OP's own words in the very first paragraph of his post that started this whole thread has had me shaking my head in amazement from the get-go.
The first sentence he states an urgent need to sell this special keepsake rifle to help cover monstrous Rx as well as other assorted medical bills coming in soon. (Which is very much understandable)
But then goes on to name potential trades he would consider taking as partial payment.
Maybe it's just my warped way of thinking but were it me under the same circumstances I'm pretty certain I'd be insisting on full cash sales and not suggesting partial trades on anything.
Originally Posted by safariman
I had this rifle in my keep forever pile, and I really do love it, but I have a monster Rx bill coming for the immunosupresant drugs I have to take now, plus co pays etc. for my hospital stay and Kidney Transplant. So, this one is back up for sale. I would consider a Mauser, Ruger mdl 77 Mk ll, or Winchester pre 64 or Classic action 30/06 as a part trade....
I have noticed that as well, he first needs cash, usually stating huge bills to pay, then suggests he would take a partial trade vs only cash. He has done that for a long time.
I believe his buying mentality and methods remind me of an 11 year old, but it could be caused by being a Genius like he claims to be......NOT
I suspect he is posting guns for sale/ money needed, on other websites as I doubt he can continue life without some drama from buying and selling firearms. He thrives on it.
Breaking my silence here for a good reason and cause. Won't be checking out this thread as it goes along as I am logged on very little these days and mostly to just converse with my many friends here via PM's. That said, I recently purchased Tim's pre 64 in 300 H%H. It is as described and fills a big void in my 'bucket list' firearms. I also purchased two vintage Weaver scopes at the same time and they, too, were priced fairly and are in the excellent condition described.
NOdog in this fight, but if I had the cash for this 30/06 I would love to buy it. And I would gladly deal with Tim again and hope to.
I wonder if the purchase of the H&H took place before or after the medical bills were taken care of?
This is a narcissist greatest trait. They often live in a world they created and only they understand how said world operates.
That world perplexes me. But a few short weeks ago:
Apparently "looking at cash flow" isn't a strong suit. That unto itself is odd because he's better at everything else, done more than most, and, has/had far "cooler stuff" than anyone here.
Originally Posted by safariman
Breaking my silence here for a good reason and cause. Won't be checking out this thread as it goes along as I am logged on very little these days and mostly to just converse with my many friends here via PM's. That said, I recently purchased Tim's pre 64 in 300 H%H. It is as described and fills a big void in my 'bucket list' firearms. I also purchased two vintage Weaver scopes at the same time and they, too, were priced fairly and are in the excellent condition described.
NOdog in this fight, but if I had the cash for this 30/06 I would love to buy it. And I would gladly deal with Tim again and hope to.
You mean to post how he wants a gun really bad on one day.
Posts how he has to sell a gun for medical expenses on the next day.
Go through Hell and high water to argue the 2nd fact.
Get drummed off the site for a while.
Then return to tell how he bought the gun he really wanted, just to vouch for the seller?
Left out he filed Bk, had it discharged, been selling and buying the whole time while the BK was processed to discharged. If anyone want to do the homework of what he sold and bought from Janurary to date, PM me all the info and I'll make sure it gets where it need to go to have his BK discharge reversed and him charged with fraud. Im sure they would like to sell off all his keepsakes to help his creditors. If he has his discharge reversed this will let him open him up to creditors to sue the sh#t out of him. He will be able to refile his BK, but the creditors will have all the paper work filed in court by that time. If I remember right he wont be able to file for 6 months after its reversed. I have a friend that's a trustee and he said he will file the paper work.
He has a similar style to Larry. He got on here to "laugh at us" by saying he used his preciously needed funds to pay medical bills and instead bought another rifle and scopes.
His wife must be an enabler allowing his "selling to cover medical bills" while using that money to buy more guns on his bucket list.
Won't she be proud when his leaves all these rifles, and bills, for her to deal with after he leaves this world.
Any guesses where MARK ( AND Larry) will be sent when he tries to enter the pearly gates? LOL
Is Safariman also a professional hunting consultant and published gun writer as well?
The reason I ask is in his personal profile at a couple of other forums where he is a registered member he has his occupation/biography as gun writer in one, published gun writer in the other, and hunting consultant at both sites.
Greetings everyone! Some of you may know me from 24 hour campfire where I am a frequent poster as well as buyer and seller in thier classifieds and have acheived Campfire Bwana status or rank, FWTW.
I am semi retired right now due to temporary health issues, but was at one time a top 1% in the Nation Insurance Producer and owned a dangerous game focused Hunt booking company Called Aahsome African Adventures. I have a couple of gun related articles and photos published in African Hunter Magazine and in the most recent Barnes Reloading Manual. That is me with a very dead Elephant in my Avatar.
I have been using and enjoying Kel Tech firearms for about 20 or so years and currently have in our home a P3AT and a PMR30. When my health improves, and thus my cash flow I hope to add a Bullpup 12ga and an SU16. Used to carry a PF-9 as my daily carry gun and may add another. Consider it one of the finest pocket gun formats extant.
Looking forward to learning more about my wonderful Kel Tech stuff, I and my beautiful wife are HUGE fans.
When the Yalie check crisis and car repair crisis hit us, JDMCguns (SP) bought an old model bearcat and a 308 rifle from us as well as a Springbok hide quilt. This covered our repair costs for our two autos that broke down the same weekend along with our dishwasher.
Sherri having to go to part time work lately because of her cancer treatments and medicine regimen has caused ue to have to pay all of our health insurance premiums of now $1134/mo along with other bills but I would much rather trade out semi guided priavate land hunts for waterfowl, deer, and/or rodentia type varmints and or sell of one of my varmint rifles to keep the boat afloat.
The outpouring of support and kindness here has been overwhelming to me, and much appreiated.
I still want to remain self sufficinet and self supporting as much as I can, using the sale of guns and stuff to keep us going until Sherri can return to full time work or I get a new Kidney and, assuming it takes and works OK, can hopefully return to some type of work again as well.
This has got to be the most (or one of the most) incredible threads on all my years here. Simply amazing at the level of skullduggery, dishonesty and downright criminal activity by this man, that EVEN if 10% of it were true, it would still be the same. And to think I almost did business with him at one time...
A confidence man screws people over by winning their trust and playing on their desire to help others. Safariman is good at what he does. That's not excusing him or his actions, just saying that he's a skilled con man.
I was approached by him once and it was only by a fortuitous coincidence that I did not get taken. But I think he got what he wanted from the person I did deal with, again by playing on someone's good nature for his own selfish purpose.
If one believes in Hell Safariman surely has a special reservation to the lowest level.
GOD loves a sincerely repentant sinner, but I have to wonder if Mr. C has the character necessary to be either sincere or repentant. But GOD will know the truth, HE always does.
asphaltangel (Member #48288) User Registered On: 03/25/13 07:15 PM Last Online: 21 minutes 6 seconds ago safariman (Member #8086) User Registered On: 06/18/05 07:30 PM Last Online: Today at 11:37 AM
Inheritances: Any assets which are inherited within 6 months after your Washington bankruptcy filing date will need to be surrendered to the Trustee or exempted if possible.
Testimonial I am very grateful to Mr. . He worked hard on my bankruptcy process, and he got me a fair repayment plan so that I could keep my house and my car, and a bunch of other stuff I got to keep they didn't find out about. His secretary was always polite and made sure that Mr. received my calls, and returned them as quickly as he could. I would recommend Mr.he is the biggest one in his firm, to other people who are struggling with debt or about to lose their home or uber vehicles.– safariman., WA
Any updates on the safariman bankruptcy proceedings? Recalled that some members here had contacted the trustee (Mr. Munding) and provided details on some of safariman's assets that may have been concealed during the filing.
Would like to hear the nature of the conversations/correspondence between those folks who were able to get in touch with Mr. Munding, if possible. Has the trustee been able to make any progress in the case? Can't see any reason to be coy or cryptic about things, so let's hear all about it.
Bump for the most entertaining and educational thread that I've been reading over the past 26 days. They should turn this into an episode of CSI Online - SafariMan, The Con-Artist That Jumped Out Of The Frying Pan Into The Campfire.
1. The bankruptcy is over and done and will not be reopened. Mr. Mundy informs that he has received nothing from anyone on this site which is logical as to do so would require the informer to identify himself which would provide Mark a vehicle for a civil suit against that person. Like all blogs, this site has a lot of hot air but no one is going to identify themselves and end up in a nasty lawsuit unless they are a complete dunce.
2. My Brother-in law is in the silk screened T-Shirt business and could produce a Safariman T-Shirt. The minimum order would be 300. The design is the responsibility of whomever orders them and must be accompanied by a "hold harmless" document in case Mark decides to take legal action against whomever initiates the design and order. Cost including the screen would be $3500.00 paid in advance. These are high quality "Ts" supplied by Haynes and the silk screen process will stand many washings. Given the unique nature of these shirts they should sell easily @ $20.00 each. PayPal is welcome for initial payment.
1. The bankruptcy is over and done and will not be reopened. Mr. Mundy informs that he has received nothing from anyone on this site which is logical as to do so would require the informer to identify himself which would provide Mark a vehicle for a civil suit against that person. Like all blogs, this site has a lot of hot air but no one is going to identify themselves and end up in a nasty lawsuit unless they are a complete dunce.
2. My Brother-in law is in the silk screened T-Shirt business and could produce a Safariman T-Shirt. The minimum order would be 300. The design is the responsibility of whomever orders them and must be accompanied by a "hold harmless" document in case Mark decides to take legal action against whomever initiates the design and order. Cost including the screen would be $3500.00 paid in advance. These are high quality "Ts" supplied by Haynes and the silk screen process will stand many washings. Given the unique nature of these shirts they should sell easily @ $20.00 each. PayPal is welcome for initial payment.
Nice SWAG, 4ager but everyone is not this guy you seem to have a hardon for.
BTW, you want to put up the $ for the Ts ?......... Thought so.
Good comment on troops....... too bad you had to steal it........ you served in what branch ? where ? when ?...............Thought so.
Those who actually have known Mark for many years have little respect for you and the other smear merchants smacking a good guy when he's down.
Real tough hiding on the net but never show your face. I'm sure Mark would enjoy sitting down over a cup of Java to hear your wisdom. 9500 posts and even hiding where you hang your hat............sad,sad,sad.
Nice SWAG, 4ager but everyone is not this guy you seem to have a hardon for.
BTW, you want to put up the $ for the Ts ?......... Thought so.
Good comment on troops....... too bad you had to steal it........ you served in what branch ? where ? when ?...............Thought so.
Those who actually have known Mark for many years have little respect for you and the other smear merchants smacking a good guy when he's down.
Real tough hiding on the net but never show your face. I'm sure Mark would enjoy sitting down over a cup of Java to hear your wisdom. 9500 posts and even hiding where you hang your hat............sad,sad,sad.
Back to lurking, Ciao.
Yep, no doubt about it...Larry "cum guzzler" Root is back again
I was kinda thinking of a shirt that says "SAFARIMAN" The Man, The Myth, The Con-Artist. On second thought, instead of putting it on a T shirt we could print this on Depends diapers for the elderly. The back of it could say I bought an annuity from Safariman and all I got was these Depends diapers.
Second point is laughable... always ready to try and make a buck aren't you?!
As per usual, you're quick to flap your diseased gums about sheit you have absolutely no first hand knowledge, let alone a clue about.
Apparently you're not aware that 4ager and Claiborne have a "history". They know one another well. Not everyone hides under their bed or in the closet pissing themselves like YOU old girl... (you have your anonymous IP proxy working overtime!)
Yes, going back to lurking under the radar would be in your best interest Lawrence. Your place in the corner wearing your well earned dunce cap suites you better than wading in spouting off your lies and delusional paranoid musings and rants.
Those who actually have known Mark for many years have little respect for you and the other smear merchants smacking a good guy when he's down.
After all the crooked,lying, cheezy underhanded chit that the aborted afterbirth known as your buddy 'safariman' has pulled here and been proven I for the life of me cannot understand how any decent honest person could defend that chithead????? To defend him IMHO puts those people in the same nest or even worse. Kinda like a crooked cop!!!!
Someone should make 'safariman' condoms instead of T's. Like bangin a fat ugly chick 'Screwum until it hurts then deny it ever happened' or 'Screwing old ladies, take their dignity and their money'!!!
A couple of weeks ago when some new member posting with the screen name, "laraza", started spouting off and making threats got zapped, everyone of his posts automatically changed to a member with screen name, "oldman1942".
Now this most recent character using the screen name, "runniniron", shows up posting pretty much the same spiel as "laraza", and just so happens to have registered for membership on 6/1/15, the very same day, "oldman1942", made his last post.
Those who actually have known Mark for many years have little respect for you and the other smear merchants smacking a good guy when he's down.
After all the crooked,lying, cheezy underhanded chit that the aborted afterbirth known as your buddy 'safariman' has pulled here and been proven I for the life of me cannot understand how any decent honest person could defend that chithead????? To defend him IMHO puts those people in the same nest or even worse. Kinda like a crooked cop!!!!
Someone should make 'safariman' condoms instead of T's. Like bangin a fat ugly chick 'Screwum until it hurts then deny it ever happened' or 'Screwing old ladies, take their dignity and their money'!!!
The hiy defending him is anything but "decent and honest"....let alone sane and normal
A couple of weeks ago when some new member posting with the screen name, "laraza", started spouting off and making threats got zapped, everyone of his posts automatically changed to a member with screen name, "oldman1942".
Now this most recent character using the screen name, "runniniron", shows up posting pretty much the same spiel as "laraza", and just so happens to have registered for membership on 6/1/15, the very same day, "oldman1942", made his last post.
1. The bankruptcy is over and done and will not be reopened. Mr. Mundy informs that he has received nothing from anyone on this site which is logical as to do so would require the informer to identify himself which would provide Mark a vehicle for a civil suit against that person. Like all blogs, this site has a lot of hot air but no one is going to identify themselves and end up in a nasty lawsuit unless they are a complete dunce.
2. My Brother-in law is in the silk screened T-Shirt business and could produce a Safariman T-Shirt. The minimum order would be 300. The design is the responsibility of whomever orders them and must be accompanied by a "hold harmless" document in case Mark decides to take legal action against whomever initiates the design and order. Cost including the screen would be $3500.00 paid in advance. These are high quality "Ts" supplied by Haynes and the silk screen process will stand many washings. Given the unique nature of these shirts they should sell easily @ $20.00 each. PayPal is welcome for initial payment.
Of course Mr. Mundy wouldn't have heard from anyone on this site. Why would he? The attorney in question is JOHN D. MUNDING, not MUNDY!
If you want to contact him, his email address is [email protected]. Or you could call at his law firm, Crumb & Munding at 509-624-6464, monday thru friday.
Geez, you must be as dumb as a bucket of rocks! If you're going to try to scare people, you could, at least, do a little homework and get the attorney's name right.
1. The bankruptcy is over and done and will not be reopened. Mr. Mundy informs that he has received nothing from anyone on this site which is logical as to do so would require the informer to identify himself which would provide Mark a vehicle for a civil suit against that person. Like all blogs, this site has a lot of hot air but no one is going to identify themselves and end up in a nasty lawsuit unless they are a complete dunce.
2. My Brother-in law is in the silk screened T-Shirt business and could produce a Safariman T-Shirt. The minimum order would be 300. The design is the responsibility of whomever orders them and must be accompanied by a "hold harmless" document in case Mark decides to take legal action against whomever initiates the design and order. Cost including the screen would be $3500.00 paid in advance. These are high quality "Ts" supplied by Haynes and the silk screen process will stand many washings. Given the unique nature of these shirts they should sell easily @ $20.00 each. PayPal is welcome for initial payment.
Of course Mr. Mundy wouldn't have heard from anyone on this site. Why would he? The attorney in question is JOHN D. MUNDING, not MUNDY!
If you want to contact him, his email address is [email protected]. Or you could call at his law firm, Crumb & Munding at 509-624-6464, monday thru friday.
Geez, you must be as dumb as a bucket of rocks! If you're going to try to scare people, you could, at least, do a little homework and get the attorney's name right.
You really didn't think he was that smart did you, always makes mistakes, that is how you can tell who he actually is. he is like the little kid hiding behind his hands and thinking the adults can't see him.
Nice SWAG, 4ager but everyone is not this guy you seem to have a hardon for.
BTW, you want to put up the $ for the Ts ?......... Thought so.
Good comment on troops....... too bad you had to steal it........ you served in what branch ? where ? when ?...............Thought so.
Those who actually have known Mark for many years have little respect for you and the other smear merchants smacking a good guy when he's down.
Real tough hiding on the net but never show your face. I'm sure Mark would enjoy sitting down over a cup of Java to hear your wisdom. 9500 posts and even hiding where you hang your hat............sad,sad,sad.
[bleep] next time I'm going through Pinedale I need to ask if they know of Larry Root... Which should be in November...
Careful, he is going to have the Sheriff, the FBI, the CIA, the PTA, the 4H and his knitting club posted up looking for you! You may enter Pinedale but you may never leave!
[bleep] next time I'm going through Pinedale I need to ask if they know of Larry Root... Which should be in November...
Careful, he is going to have the Sheriff, the FBI, the CIA, the PTA, the 4H and his knitting club posted up looking for you! You may enter Pinedale but you may never leave!
Gotta say it's a howl. A simple ISP search would prove that this "Larry Root" ,you seem terrified of, is not me. Mark is also getting a huge laugh out of watching you flail around.
Sorry about my typing error on the bankruptcy trustee ...... the point remains none of you windbags have contacted him to try and further punish Mark. Funny how you view yourselves as the secret police while too afraid to let out your identities to the trustee.
"Finding" this Larry Root" in Pinedale should not tax your limited intelligence too far. Mark says he is in the phone book as he has chatted with him. He also said the empty threats to go and visit "Larry Root" (as well as him) have a long history on this blog and have, of course, come to nothing. In Wyoming, (or any free state) nobody shows up at anyone's door unannounced making threats. Really bad idea.
The T shirt offer remains opens but as with the bankruptcy, none of you have stepped up to accept the offer and start the ball rolling. Some how I doubt it will go anywhere.
A couple of weeks ago when some new member posting with the screen name, "laraza", started spouting off and making threats got zapped, everyone of his posts automatically changed to a member with screen name, "oldman1942".
Now this most recent character using the screen name, "runniniron", shows up posting pretty much the same spiel as "laraza", and just so happens to have registered for membership on 6/1/15, the very same day, "oldman1942", made his last post.
Welcome to the world of Larry Root
Yep, I see what you mean now.
Curious ain't it how according to oldman1942's profile the 'Last Online' there shows he has not logged on since 02/03/11, but yet his post history shows posts still being made by him all the way up to 06/01/15.
oldman1942 (Member #25094) User Registered On: 09/15/09 02:32 PM Last Online: 02/03/11 10:47 PM
Gotta say it's a howl. A simple ISP search would prove that this "Larry Root" ,you seem terrified of, is not me. Mark is also getting a huge laugh out of watching you flail around.
Sorry about my typing error on the bankruptcy trustee ...... the point remains none of you windbags have contacted him to try and further punish Mark. Funny how you view yourselves as the secret police while too afraid to let out your identities to the trustee.
"Finding" this Larry Root" in Pinedale should not tax your limited intelligence too far. Mark says he is in the phone book as he has chatted with him. He also said the empty threats to go and visit "Larry Root" (as well as him) have a long history on this blog and have, of course, come to nothing. In Wyoming, (or any free state) nobody shows up at anyone's door unannounced making threats. Really bad idea.
The T shirt offer remains opens but as with the bankruptcy, none of you have stepped up to accept the offer and start the ball rolling. Some how I doubt it will go anywhere.
Meanwhile y'all are entertaining.
Larry, you remain amazingly full of schit and just as amazingly wrong (on a myriad of issues).
Sure he would appreciate some from you but that would out you, now would it not ?
Mark (who keeps track of old stuff on this site) tells me some guy named Robert Brown in Edmond OK owes "Larry Root" $10,000 for some wager made but welched on. Seems he too was going to visit Pinedale but, of course, never showed up. Probably a smart move on his part.
Amusing how there are so many little boys pretending to be men on the internet. Without it, they would still be leading lives of quiet desperation. Henry David Thoreau — ‘Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them.’
Sure there are no Thoreau readers here !
"Running in ever smaller circles until you find your head up your azz."
When you go on your road trip be sure to stop and see Mark and me as well. We'll have the coffee scalding hot.
Sure he would appreciate some from you but that would out you, now would it not ?
Mark (who keeps track of old stuff on this site) tells me some guy named Robert Brown in Edmond OK owes "Larry Root" $10,000 for some wager made but welched on. Seems he too was going to visit Pinedale but, of course, never showed up. Probably a smart move on his part.
Amusing how there are so many little boys pretending to be men on the internet. Without it, they would still be leading lives of quiet desperation. Henry David Thoreau — ‘Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them.’
Sure there are no Thoreau readers here !
"Running in ever smaller circles until you find your head up your azz."
When you go on your road trip be sure to stop and see Mark and me as well. We'll have the coffee scalding hot.
Mark knows me; and I know him. He also knows that I don't bluff and that what I posted about him is dead cold fact.
Larry, you've never met Mark; you only know him from this site and haven't a clue. That's been proven time and again.
As for no one contacting the trustee... yeah, keep thinking that. I'd lay odds that at least three people have (no, you'll not know who) to date and that number is likely to grow. Evidence to reopen the bankruptcy exists in Mark's own words about assets he had prior to, through, and post bankruptcy that were not disclosed on his affidavits and statements. That, alone, is perjury and plenty for a trustee to reopen the case along with a myriad other options if he so chooses. Compound that with Sherri's mother recently passing (God rest her), and any inheritance received by them or due them within six months MUST be disclosed to the Trustee. Odds are that hasn't happened, either, as it would be subject to the bankruptcy and due their creditors and not them. When the IRS is one of your main creditors, they don't take kindly to the hiding of assets.
Even though you haven't a clue, and never had, perhaps you can educate yourself.
A couple of weeks ago when some new member posting with the screen name, "laraza", started spouting off and making threats got zapped, everyone of his posts automatically changed to a member with screen name, "oldman1942".
Now this most recent character using the screen name, "runniniron", shows up posting pretty much the same spiel as "laraza", and just so happens to have registered for membership on 6/1/15, the very same day, "oldman1942", made his last post.
Welcome to the world of Larry Root
Yep, I see what you mean now.
Curious ain't it how according to oldman1942's profile the 'Last Online' there shows he has not logged on since 02/03/11, but yet his post history shows posts still being made by him all the way up to 06/01/15.
oldman1942 (Member #25094) User Registered On: 09/15/09 02:32 PM Last Online: 02/03/11 10:47 PM
Rick merges his new screen name in with the oldman one each time he band the new account.
A couple of weeks ago when some new member posting with the screen name, "laraza", started spouting off and making threats got zapped, everyone of his posts automatically changed to a member with screen name, "oldman1942".
Now this most recent character using the screen name, "runniniron", shows up posting pretty much the same spiel as "laraza", and just so happens to have registered for membership on 6/1/15, the very same day, "oldman1942", made his last post.
Welcome to the world of Larry Root
Yep, I see what you mean now.
Curious ain't it how according to oldman1942's profile the 'Last Online' there shows he has not logged on since 02/03/11, but yet his post history shows posts still being made by him all the way up to 06/01/15.
oldman1942 (Member #25094) User Registered On: 09/15/09 02:32 PM Last Online: 02/03/11 10:47 PM
Rick merges his new screen name in with the oldman one each time he band the new account.
Sure he would appreciate some from you but that would out you, now would it not ?
Mark (who keeps track of old stuff on this site) tells me some guy named Robert Brown in Edmond OK owes "Larry Root" $10,000 for some wager made but welched on. Seems he too was going to visit Pinedale but, of course, never showed up. Probably a smart move on his part.
Amusing how there are so many little boys pretending to be men on the internet. Without it, they would still be leading lives of quiet desperation. Henry David Thoreau — ‘Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them.’
Sure there are no Thoreau readers here !
"Running in ever smaller circles until you find your head up your azz."
When you go on your road trip be sure to stop and see Mark and me as well. We'll have the coffee scalding hot.
I love you how you refer to yourself in third person LOL.. It is kind of creepy too and leave Bricktop out of this...
A very strange disturbed man and now acting in 3rd person.I feel sorry for him because to keep coming back acting strange and stranger he must be sad and lonely.
If you were a creditor and one of your debtors sought relief via bankruptcy, wouldn't you expect him/her to be 100% honest in his/her disclosure of assets? And, if someone who had no standing in the bankruptcy was aware of allegations that the debtor was hiding assets, wouldn't you appreciate that person (or persons) coming forward to alert the trustee? It falls upon the trustee to investigate the allegations, but he/she can't investigate that which he/she is unaware of.
For me, it comes down to this: The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - attributed to John F. Kennedy, paraphrasing a quote by Edmund Burke.
The U.S. Trustees Program, part of the Department of Justice, oversees the bankruptcy system. When it uncovers suspected fraud, it refers the information to the appropriate U.S. attorney and to the FBI. Working closely with the U.S. Attorney’s Office, our field office investigators open a case if warranted and begin conducting interviews and reviewing financial documents. Based on the complexity of the case, we can also use techniques like undercover operations and court-authorized electronic surveillance to gather additional evidence.
Sure he would appreciate some from you but that would out you, now would it not ?
Mark (who keeps track of old stuff on this site) tells me some guy named Robert Brown in Edmond OK owes "Larry Root" $10,000 for some wager made but welched on. Seems he too was going to visit Pinedale but, of course, never showed up. Probably a smart move on his part.
Amusing how there are so many little boys pretending to be men on the internet. Without it, they would still be leading lives of quiet desperation. Henry David Thoreau — ‘Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them.’
Sure there are no Thoreau readers here !
"Running in ever smaller circles until you find your head up your azz."
When you go on your road trip be sure to stop and see Mark and me as well. We'll have the coffee scalding hot.
Funny thing......every time (as recent as yesterday) I go through Livonia I get the urge to piss.
Sure he would appreciate some from you but that would out you, now would it not ?
Mark (who keeps track of old stuff on this site) tells me some guy named Robert Brown in Edmond OK owes "Larry Root" $10,000 for some wager made but welched on. Seems he too was going to visit Pinedale but, of course, never showed up. Probably a smart move on his part.
Amusing how there are so many little boys pretending to be men on the internet. Without it, they would still be leading lives of quiet desperation. Henry David Thoreau — ‘Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them.’
Sure there are no Thoreau readers here !
"Running in ever smaller circles until you find your head up your azz."
When you go on your road trip be sure to stop and see Mark and me as well. We'll have the coffee scalding hot.
Ain't you like really, really old like Savage_99? I can't imagine we would have to put up with things like you too much longer. You crazy, dumb old [bleep]. Hopefully you're not allowed to drive, among other things.
Received an insulting hit and run PM from some dolt named (not kidding) FOstoleogy, typical retard with no balls.
Another from the skinny punk kid Bricktop who is threatening to kick "Larry Root's" azz w/o warning. (Obviously we've all heard that song before) The net abounds with "tough guys" LOL !
Mark has passed along useful info on both these sickos which will, in turn, get passed along to the scary Larry Root when he gets back in the USA.
It continues a howl how all you boy/men can get so exercised over a fellow with a turn of bad luck with his health and finances.
You can get a T shirt for $8.39 and perhaps less. As with all those Mossbergs in your gun safe and the Yugo in your rusty carport, it will be worth what you pay for it.
There are blogs that are run and inhabited by adults. You brats stay here and find comfort in your "control" of this site. Every barrel has a bottom, so your needs are met.
Told that at least seven innocents have been banned from this site under claims by you fools of being "scary Larry Root", also told it's a Pyrrhic victory (look it up) as twisting your shorts in a knot is an elixir for scary Larry...... free entertainment.
You can post a thousand links to bankruptcy but the fact remains none, nada, zero of you chest thumpers are going to to do scheit as the blowback would sizzle your already tiny balls. Can't get involved w/o going public. Once you do you will find "actions have consequences." Messing with a very sick guy who, unlike you, has been there and done that with many big rifles is, IMO, just dumb.
Isn't the Internet fun ?
Geez, it's 2200 hours, time to check the perimeter.
You can post a thousand links to bankruptcy but the fact remains none, nada, zero of you chest thumpers are going to to do scheit as the blowback would sizzle your already tiny balls. Can't get involved w/o going public. Once you do you will find "actions have consequences." Messing with a very sick guy who, unlike you, has been there and done that with many big rifles is, IMO, just dumb.
I would venture to say that if moved to do so, any one of the thousands of members on 24-HCF could easily contact Mr. Munding in any one of the following four ways:
1. Via email at [email protected] 2. Via telephone at 509-624-6464 3. Via USPS at 111 South Post Street, Suite 2290, Spokane, WA 99201 3a. Via USPS at 1610 West Riverside Avenue, Spokane, WA 99201 4. In person at one of the addresses listed above
The allegations of wrong doing made in this post seem pretty serious and any sincere proponent of the rule of law might feel obligated to point those allegations out to the proper authorities. While I'm not clear who the proper authority is, it seems likely that Mr. Munding, by virtue of his position as trustee for case # 2:14-bk-02705, would know both what to do and who to contact.
It is entertaining that everyone who does not bow down to dear old FO and the other cowards is "scary Larry Root". Heck that fellow must spend his whole life on the internet driving these paranoid fools nuts.
What is scary is the slander and lies being heaped on Mark (Safariman) by this bunch of girlymen. Beating on a guy who is down with health and financial issues does not indicate the whuppers are on the list to be hired by NASA ..... i.e NOT rocket sciencetists ! People who know the light at the end of the tunnel may be the train, own a lot of guns and have been there and done that in ways faaggots like FO and his gang can not imagine really should not be messed with.
That why in spite of all the blah, blah, blah, none of these howlers ever substitute action for words. Censorship (the mark of a coward) is as far as their tiny balls (and their "in charge" housemates) let them go. They may get a bit of computer time when they are not washing out their "helpmates" stained undies, but that's as far as it goes.
Looking over your shoulder 24/7/365 is no way to live. Fredericksburg, Texas is a very small town ..........
"Slander and lies" on Claiborne. That's friggin' rich. Case decisions and the man's own words are somehow "slander and lies". Only in the mind of a very sick individual that hasn't a clue what it's talking about and is simply here for the attention.
You can post a thousand links to bankruptcy but the fact remains none, nada, zero of you chest thumpers are going to to do scheit as the blowback would sizzle your already tiny balls.
I'm reading between the lines and wondering if "BLOW" and "TINY SIZZLING BALLS" might not be clues.................
Appears you are scared of Gays ? Threat to your non existant manhood ? Afraid you might be seduced by one ? Is you "woman" a closet Lesbian ?
You are as good at parsing and lies as your hero Obama.
As for 4Ager ...... just another coward trying to enhance himself by attacking others. Like all the hot air douchebags here, he has done and will do nothing but blah, blah, blah.
As for 4Ager ...... just another coward trying to enhance himself by attacking others. Like all the hot air douchebags here, he has done and will do nothing but blah, blah, blah.
For the good of the whole, some people need to be "outed" for their poor behavior. It is a damn shame that you keep coming back to contaminate this site with your worthless, $hit-stirring, posts when it has been clear for several years that you're not welcome and not wanted.
I know for a FACT that at least one person here has contacted Mr. Munding via email and pointed him toward the allegation found in this very post. If the allegations are true and the trustee can reopen this case to investigate in greater depth, I believe that the creditors would appreciate the opportunity to reclaim some small additional portion of the debt.
You can post a thousand links to bankruptcy but the fact remains none, nada, zero of you chest thumpers are going to to do scheit as the blowback would sizzle your already tiny balls. Can't get involved w/o going public. Once you do you will find "actions have consequences." Messing with a very sick guy who, unlike you, has been there and done that with many big rifles is, IMO, just dumb.
I would venture to say that if moved to do so, any one of the thousands of members on 24-HCF could easily contact Mr. Munding in any one of the following four ways:
1. Via email at [email protected] 2. Via telephone at 509-624-6464 3. Via USPS at 111 South Post Street, Suite 2290, Spokane, WA 99201 3a. Via USPS at 1610 West Riverside Avenue, Spokane, WA 99201 4. In person at one of the addresses listed above
The allegations of wrong doing made in this post seem pretty serious and any sincere proponent of the rule of law might feel obligated to point those allegations out to the proper authorities. While I'm not clear who the proper authority is, it seems likely that Mr. Munding, by virtue of his position as trustee for case # 2:14-bk-02705, would know both what to do and who to contact.
Just sayin............
It would be pretty easy to do the right thing and send an email to Mr. Munding. Cut and paste. Cut and paste.
I would also like to point out the obvious, that telling the truth is always the best policy. Some people just don't have enough character to tell the truth when they can use a lie to "improve" their situation, either actually or in their own mind.
Sure he would appreciate some from you but that would out you, now would it not ?
Mark (who keeps track of old stuff on this site) tells me some guy named Robert Brown in Edmond OK owes "Larry Root" $10,000 for some wager made but welched on. Seems he too was going to visit Pinedale but, of course, never showed up. Probably a smart move on his part.
Amusing how there are so many little boys pretending to be men on the internet. Without it, they would still be leading lives of quiet desperation. Henry David Thoreau — ‘Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them.’
Sure there are no Thoreau readers here !
"Running in ever smaller circles until you find your head up your azz."
When you go on your road trip be sure to stop and see Mark and me as well. We'll have the coffee scalding hot.
How much SM get you for money wise?? Are you taking him Elk hunting this year in Wyoming in exchange for some private land sage rat hunting??
.... Like all the hot air douchebags here, he has done and will do nothing but blah, blah, blah.
Karma will be Hell !
Assuming no one already has yet, if someone were to report them now, and it resulted in bankruptcy fraud charges being brought against he and his wife, they would have you to blame as much or more than anyone else for being so persistent at daring anyone to report them.
You can post a thousand links to bankruptcy but the fact remains none, nada, zero of you chest thumpers are going to to do scheit as the blowback would sizzle your already tiny balls. Can't get involved w/o going public. Once you do you will find "actions have consequences." Messing with a very sick guy who, unlike you, has been there and done that with many big rifles is, IMO, just dumb.
I would venture to say that if moved to do so, any one of the thousands of members on 24-HCF could easily contact Mr. Munding in any one of the following four ways:
1. Via email at [email protected] 2. Via telephone at 509-624-6464 3. Via USPS at 111 South Post Street, Suite 2290, Spokane, WA 99201 3a. Via USPS at 1610 West Riverside Avenue, Spokane, WA 99201 4. In person at one of the addresses listed above
The allegations of wrong doing made in this post seem pretty serious and any sincere proponent of the rule of law might feel obligated to point those allegations out to the proper authorities. While I'm not clear who the proper authority is, it seems likely that Mr. Munding, by virtue of his position as trustee for case # 2:14-bk-02705, would know both what to do and who to contact.
Just sayin............
It would be pretty easy to do the right thing and send an email to Mr. Munding. Cut and paste. Cut and paste.
You can post a thousand links to bankruptcy but the fact remains none, nada, zero of you chest thumpers are going to to do scheit as the blowback would sizzle your already tiny balls. Can't get involved w/o going public. Once you do you will find "actions have consequences." Messing with a very sick guy who, unlike you, has been there and done that with many big rifles is, IMO, just dumb.
I would venture to say that if moved to do so, any one of the thousands of members on 24-HCF could easily contact Mr. Munding in any one of the following four ways:
1. Via email at [email protected] 2. Via telephone at 509-624-6464 3. Via USPS at 111 South Post Street, Suite 2290, Spokane, WA 99201 3a. Via USPS at 1610 West Riverside Avenue, Spokane, WA 99201 4. In person at one of the addresses listed above
The allegations of wrong doing made in this post seem pretty serious and any sincere proponent of the rule of law might feel obligated to point those allegations out to the proper authorities. While I'm not clear who the proper authority is, it seems likely that Mr. Munding, by virtue of his position as trustee for case # 2:14-bk-02705, would know both what to do and who to contact.
Just sayin............
It would be pretty easy to do the right thing and send an email to Mr. Munding. Cut and paste. Cut and paste.
My name is Aaron Stratton and I live in Columbia SC. My cell is 803.467.0856. Google will give you some addresses and I'm sure pictures.
You should know--I've got nothing in this world I'm not willing to walk completely away from. If we need someone to stand up and forward the information in this and other threads I don't mind being that guy. I can promise you I won't lose sleep or spend time looking over my shoulder. I'm sure if there is no wrong doing on Mark's part he has nothing to worry about either. The VA says the reason I don't feel good or bad or anything anymore has to do with my PTSD diagnosis. The reality is I can't feel a damn thing if I desperately wanted to. So you can't shame me either. For better or worse that's who I am now.
Normally I don't give two [bleep] what someone does. I honestly don't care that Mark might have made some poor choices or actively tried to screw people. Because that's how the world works and if it wasn't Mark it would be someone else. There are no winners without a pile of losers. I'm not interested in right or wrong, or someone's honor or their personality disorders. But I'm completely over this "its the internet so I can act without the consequences of real life" bullshit.
So if we need someone to step up I'm happy to. If someone's already personally handled it gimme a PM so I don't further annoy Mark's trustee and keep him from the task at hand...
What's funny is I don't have anything against Larry. I find his posts enjoyable because I like pictures of people actually outside hunting. And his pictures are spectacular.
I just don't like people hiding behind the internet. That's all.
What's funny is I don't have anything against Larry. I find his posts enjoyable because I like pictures of people actually outside hunting. And his pictures are spectacular.
I just don't like people hiding behind the internet. That's all.
You're thinking of the wrong Larry (Big Stick in Alaska).
This "Larry" is a 72yo douchebag TROLL that splits her time between Pinedale Wyoming and Key West Florida. The only hunting she does is shooting speed goats from her back porch, and paying $8k for a hand held mediocre elk.
What's funny is I don't have anything against Larry. I find his posts enjoyable because I like pictures of people actually outside hunting. And his pictures are spectacular.
I just don't like people hiding behind the internet. That's all.
You're thinking of the wrong Larry (Big Stick in Alaska).
This "Larry" is a 72yo douchebag TROLL that splits her time between Pinedale Wyoming and Key West Florida. The only hunting she does is shooting speed goats from her back porch, and paying $8k for a hand held mediocre elk.
Yep, wrong Larry. 'Stick would be the first person to knock a con man on his ass and the last to stick up for them (pun there).
What's funny is I don't have anything against Larry. I find his posts enjoyable because I like pictures of people actually outside hunting. And his pictures are spectacular.
I just don't like people hiding behind the internet. That's all.
You're thinking of the wrong Larry (Big Stick in Alaska).
This "Larry" is a 72yo douchebag TROLL that splits her time between Pinedale Wyoming and Key West Florida. The only hunting she does is shooting speed goats from her back porch, and paying $8k for a hand held mediocre elk.
Yep, wrong Larry. 'Stick would be the first person to knock a con man on his ass and the last to stick up for them (pun there).
My mistake. I had no idea there was another Larry people had beef with. I like that Big Stick guy.
Larry Root, aka Karen. Numbnut bought a scope off me one time (posing as Karen). When he/she got it he/she complained that it wasn't packaged well enough (it was). I asked if there was any damage to the scope, and of course there wasn't. Apparently he/she just felt like complaining about something.
Well, the name Larry then must be an issue. Both are royal [bleep] of the first order. At least one stays away or doesn't come back as often. Good riddance to both douchebags.
But she swore up and down that she wasn't "fairy Larry". Don't you fret your little diseased TROLL head sugartits, miss Karen is going to be brought up to speed on you and your shenanigans... she'll be so "proud".
Well, the name Larry then must be an issue. Both are royal [bleep] of the first order. At least one stays away or doesn't come back as often. Good riddance to both douchebags.
It is entertaining that everyone who does not bow down to dear old FO and the other cowards is "scary Larry Root". Heck that fellow must spend his whole life on the internet driving these paranoid fools nuts.
What is scary is the slander and lies being heaped on Mark (Safariman) by this bunch of girlymen. Beating on a guy who is down with health and financial issues does not indicate the whuppers are on the list to be hired by NASA ..... i.e NOT rocket sciencetists ! People who know the light at the end of the tunnel may be the train, own a lot of guns and have been there and done that in ways faaggots like FO and his gang can not imagine really should not be messed with.
That why in spite of all the blah, blah, blah, none of these howlers ever substitute action for words. Censorship (the mark of a coward) is as far as their tiny balls (and their "in charge" housemates) let them go. They may get a bit of computer time when they are not washing out their "helpmates" stained undies, but that's as far as it goes.
Looking over your shoulder 24/7/365 is no way to live. Fredericksburg, Texas is a very small town ..........
Larry, sweet 3rd person acting once again. In your own twisted mind(you know, make-believe), you think you are so witty and sneaky. HOWEVER, in real-world, IRL, reality, you're so [bleep] dumb that it is so easily seen by so many people. EPIC! At your age in life it is fair to say you are a failure.
[bleep] next time I'm going through Pinedale I need to ask if they know of Larry Root... Which should be in November...
Probably nobody would admit to knowing him. Drive by his house at 83 Antelope Trail and wave at him.
He may be down in Key West, tracing Papa Hemingway's steps per his Hemingway alter ego persona. Check out that scruffy Hemingway like beard, the Springfield sporter among artifacts like Papa used, the attempts at literary (?publishing?) endeavors. Pieces of evidence profiling a sick old man who has to "borrow" a personality. He actually has a bunch of those...
This is weird. Needing money, yet will take trades.?
"I had this rifle in my keep forever pile, and I really do love it, but I have a monster Rx bill coming for the immunosupresant drugs I have to take now, plus co pays etc. for my hospital stay and Kidney Transplant. So, this one is back up for sale. I would consider a Mauser, Ruger mdl 77 Mk ll, or Winchester pre 64 or Classic action 30/06 as a part trade."
nline | Display Name | Status Total Posts Location Occupation safariman (Member #8086) User Registered On: 06/18/05 07:30 PM Last Online: 23 minutes 52 seconds ago 27408 All over the place! missing Africa retired, medically disabled
This is weird. Needing money, yet will take trades.?
"I had this rifle in my keep forever pile, and I really do love it, but I have a monster Rx bill coming for the immunosupresant drugs I have to take now, plus co pays etc. for my hospital stay and Kidney Transplant. So, this one is back up for sale. I would consider a Mauser, Ruger mdl 77 Mk ll, or Winchester pre 64 or Classic action 30/06 as a part trade."
nline | Display Name | Status Total Posts Location Occupation safariman (Member #8086) User Registered On: 06/18/05 07:30 PM Last Online: 23 minutes 52 seconds ago 27408 All over the place! missing Africa retired, medically disabled
Not really - this is pretty typical of Safariman, need money - help me out, I'm sick, cat died, etc...but I can buy other stuff with your trades and your money, if you are not looking.
We have about another one-two months of peace before he crawls back with a "new" apology thread - either here, or the Freak Show - born again, saw the Light, was the Light, got Lit, something to convince everyone that he really is a new man,and now one of the "good guys".
Being that he considers himself to be a Christian Man of GOD, Mark has probably thought of this entire thread in terms of Proverbs 16:18, as the words of that verse may be a forecast of his future.
Safariman still usually logs on some on weekdays but hasn't logged on at all during the last two weekends. So far it's looking like this will be the third weekend in a row he hasn't logged on.
May be just coincidence but it looks like there are also a lot of gun shows around Washington state on weekends.
Safariman still usually logs on some on weekdays but hasn't logged on at all during the last two weekends. So far it's looking like this will be the third weekend in a row he hasn't logged on.
May be just coincidence but it looks like there are also a lot of gun shows around Washington state on weekends.
Safariman still usually logs on some on weekdays but hasn't logged on at all during the last two weekends. So far it's looking like this will be the third weekend in a row he hasn't logged on.
May be just coincidence but it looks like there are also a lot of gun shows around Washington state on weekends.
After googling "what personal property has to be disclosed when filing chapter 7, I found this tidbit. I have been wondering if Mark might be in the clear selling these firearms as possibly the Trustee allowed him to keep certain assets ( By law, of course) but it seems unlikely that what he has sold and is trying to sell after the case was finalized probably are undisclosed items that will get him in hot water, not that I have an opinion either way....
He never got me, but I was quite leery in one Sako Riihimaki rifle he has...or sold recently.
"Some people filing for bankruptcy think that if they don't list property in their bankruptcy petition and schedules, they can dupe the trustee and keep the property. This is a huge mistake and also illegal. Trustees Are Good at Finding Undisclosed Property There is a good chance that the bankruptcy trustee will find property that you don’t list in your bankruptcy papers. Trustees look at bankruptcy schedules and statements every day. They get very good at picking out clues that tell them that something is missing. The trustee might get tipped off because of something in the schedules themselves, or the trustee might become suspicious because of information in tax returns or other financial records that you must provide. Often, something appears to be not right and this causes the trustee to dig further. The trustee may check public records or use an Internet-based company to run asset searches to see if there is additional property, such as real estate or motor vehicles or boats that you have not disclosed. If you are trying to hide personal property like jewelry or antiques or collectibles, it is likely that someone who knows you will tell -- such as a creditor, or perhaps an ex-friend, ex-spouse or ex-coworker. Or, it might just be that the property is listed on a credit application or insurance documents. What Happens If You Hide Assets? If you do try to hide assets and get caught, the consequences are big. You can lose your discharge and lose the property. You will not be allowed to claim exemptions for that property, and if your discharge is denied for hiding assets, you will not be able to discharge the debts you listed in a subsequent bankruptcy filing."
Yeppers, contrary to the limp wristed gender confused geriatric TROLL Larry "Douchebag" Root's opinion, I do believe Claiborne is up sheit creek without a paddle... and his canoe has holes at the water line.
Yeppers, contrary to the limp wristed gender confused geriatric TROLL Larry "Douchebag" Root's opinion, I do believe Claiborne is up sheit creek without a paddle... and his canoe has holes atbelow the water line.
is this con man still getting people to give him money? i always thought people out west had common sense, maybe they're close enough to california that people caught a case of the stupid
is this con man still getting people to give him money? i always thought people out west had common sense, maybe they're close enough to california that people caught a case of the stupid
no people out west are used to helping their neighbor even if they dont know them well cause for a long damn time that was a matter of survival......once again the guy is a CON MAN that has put alot of effort into his front and making sure he is good to just enough people to have a cheer leading section to back up that he is a good guy....good people tend to be especially vunerable to conmen cause they tend to trust they are being told the truth and look for the good in other people cause its how they are, especially given Mark does have legit medical issues means people are gonna contribute without thinking about it much unless someone points out what he has done...
Settle down boys, you're riling up the geriatric TROLL Larry "Douchebag" Root. If you persist, an incoherent, vile and vulgar laced PM will grace your in box.
Hey FO you twisted yellowbellied, scum sucking dog, coward and general worthless waste of time...... I thought you like to know....LMAO
Bricktop who is really Robert Brown who lives at 830 Willment Place in Edmond OK and is also using Miles Massey in his nasty attacks on members who have serious physical illnesses accompanied by 4ager who is Sean Clarkson who is using John Hopkins University computers to post here while he should be working. Brickhead is no bigshot at Oklahoma University, in fact they have never heard of him and 4ager ..... well another member whom he has attacked with lies, slander and threats is letting his misuse of JHU computers slip to the appropriate people there. The net is closing on the lead troll, FOestology aka cat taco man. He really flipped out when it was revealed that yet another group of members have retained a P.I. to run him to ground. When the cold, hard light of truth is shown upon these cowards, they will go to ground faster than a gopher who just had it hair parted by a 22-250. 100s of active user I.D.s in place. You wimps can ban until HE double L freezes over and you still will be outed as fast as the information is acquired. THEN when you make your threats to harm other members (the last refuge of a yellow belly scum sucking dog) you will find actions have consequences. You dolts started this fight but you will not ever finish it. Quick now, run to Mr. Post Count aka Bin and get this user ID banned, You have had so many banned, you have lost track. What you are too stupid to realize is that you have thrown a lot of innocents under the bus in your quest to have absolute control of the site. So instead of a few poed folks you now have a dozen plus linked by email and phone who are cooperating to ensure your miserable lives only become moreso.
We're here, (you think) we're queer, get used to it you racist, homophobic, women hating azzwipes.
Hey FO you twisted yellowbellied, scum sucking dog, coward and general worthless waste of time...... I thought you like to know....LMAO
Bricktop who is really Robert Brown who lives at 830 Willment Place in Edmond OK and is also using Miles Massey in his nasty attacks on members who have serious physical illnesses accompanied by 4ager who is Sean Clarkson who is using John Hopkins University computers to post here while he should be working. Brickhead is no bigshot at Oklahoma University, in fact they have never heard of him and 4ager ..... well another member whom he has attacked with lies, slander and threats is letting his misuse of JHU computers slip to the appropriate people there. The net is closing on the lead troll, FOestology aka cat taco man. He really flipped out when it was revealed that yet another group of members have retained a P.I. to run him to ground. When the cold, hard light of truth is shown upon these cowards, they will go to ground faster than a gopher who just had it hair parted by a 22-250. 100s of active user I.D.s in place. You wimps can ban until HE double L freezes over and you still will be outed as fast as the information is acquired. THEN when you make your threats to harm other members (the last refuge of a yellow belly scum sucking dog) you will find actions have consequences. You dolts started this fight but you will not ever finish it. Quick now, run to Mr. Post Count aka Bin and get this user ID banned, You have had so many banned, you have lost track. What you are too stupid to realize is that you have thrown a lot of innocents under the bus in your quest to have absolute control of the site. So instead of a few poed folks you now have a dozen plus linked by email and phone who are cooperating to ensure your miserable lives only become moreso.
We're here, (you think) we're queer, get used to it you racist, homophobic, women hating azzwipes.
Oh, Larry, you need more help than any of us miscreants can provide. Is it a full moon......? Why yes it is. Your little sailboat with a broken rudder just keeps going round and round in that big ol' Fremont lake, full moon and all. The definition of insanity.......you know it, and you still put on that little captain's hat and get on board. Nothing left to lose, heh. All that self hate and you just got to spew it, and here we are, really nameless faceless turds on the internet nothing more. And you, the little boy captain of the little boy sailboat with a broken rudder. Must look pretty silly, that little boy captain hat on a big ol'phart head. Pathetically, you sail on.....er..round.
Hey FO you twisted yellowbellied, scum sucking dog, coward and general worthless waste of time...... I thought you like to know....LMAO
Bricktop who is really Robert Brown who lives at 830 Willment Place in Edmond OK and is also using Miles Massey in his nasty attacks on members who have serious physical illnesses accompanied by 4ager who is Sean Clarkson who is using John Hopkins University computers to post here while he should be working. Brickhead is no bigshot at Oklahoma University, in fact they have never heard of him and 4ager ..... well another member whom he has attacked with lies, slander and threats is letting his misuse of JHU computers slip to the appropriate people there. The net is closing on the lead troll, FOestology aka cat taco man. He really flipped out when it was revealed that yet another group of members have retained a P.I. to run him to ground. When the cold, hard light of truth is shown upon these cowards, they will go to ground faster than a gopher who just had it hair parted by a 22-250. 100s of active user I.D.s in place. You wimps can ban until HE double L freezes over and you still will be outed as fast as the information is acquired. THEN when you make your threats to harm other members (the last refuge of a yellow belly scum sucking dog) you will find actions have consequences. You dolts started this fight but you will not ever finish it. Quick now, run to Mr. Post Count aka Bin and get this user ID banned, You have had so many banned, you have lost track. What you are too stupid to realize is that you have thrown a lot of innocents under the bus in your quest to have absolute control of the site. So instead of a few poed folks you now have a dozen plus linked by email and phone who are cooperating to ensure your miserable lives only become moreso.
We're here, (you think) we're queer, get used to it you racist, homophobic, women hating azzwipes.
I wasn't going to post anymore on this thread and cause it to come back to the front page again but since you obviously felt compelled to do so....
Links below to some threads here where Safariman posted trade offers a day or two before, - the VERY day of, - and a few days following the pizza restaurant sponsored special fund raiser event meant to help out with his kidney transplant expenses.
I saw no mention of him trying to sell off non-essential items for cash to add with the fund raiser money, but instead he just kept right on trying to hustle up trades. Apparently, judging by his own words in his posts, he still had several, "trade bait", items of worth.
This was also right before his wife was to be hospitalized and undergo surgery/treatment for cancer. In the bottom link he was even trying to hustle a trade deal not long after reporting that she was out of surgery but suffering greatly from some complications.
Hey FO you twisted yellowbellied, scum sucking dog, coward and general worthless waste of time...... I thought you like to know....LMAO
Bricktop who is really Robert Brown who lives at 830 Willment Place in Edmond OK and is also using Miles Massey in his nasty attacks on members who have serious physical illnesses accompanied by 4ager who is Sean Clarkson who is using John Hopkins University computers to post here while he should be working. Brickhead is no bigshot at Oklahoma University, in fact they have never heard of him and 4ager ..... well another member whom he has attacked with lies, slander and threats is letting his misuse of JHU computers slip to the appropriate people there. The net is closing on the lead troll, FOestology aka cat taco man. He really flipped out when it was revealed that yet another group of members have retained a P.I. to run him to ground. When the cold, hard light of truth is shown upon these cowards, they will go to ground faster than a gopher who just had it hair parted by a 22-250. 100s of active user I.D.s in place. You wimps can ban until HE double L freezes over and you still will be outed as fast as the information is acquired. THEN when you make your threats to harm other members (the last refuge of a yellow belly scum sucking dog) you will find actions have consequences. You dolts started this fight but you will not ever finish it. Quick now, run to Mr. Post Count aka Bin and get this user ID banned, You have had so many banned, you have lost track. What you are too stupid to realize is that you have thrown a lot of innocents under the bus in your quest to have absolute control of the site. So instead of a few poed folks you now have a dozen plus linked by email and phone who are cooperating to ensure your miserable lives only become moreso.
We're here, (you think) we're queer, get used to it you racist, homophobic, women hating azzwipes.
Man, but you are one serious freak. What psychosis forces you to repeatedly continue posting on a site where not only are you not welcome, but are actively despised?
Hey FO you twisted yellowbellied, scum sucking dog, coward and general worthless waste of time...... I thought you like to know....LMAO
Bricktop who is really Robert Brown who lives at 830 Willment Place in Edmond OK and is also using Miles Massey in his nasty attacks on members who have serious physical illnesses accompanied by 4ager who is Sean Clarkson who is using John Hopkins University computers to post here while he should be working. Brickhead is no bigshot at Oklahoma University, in fact they have never heard of him and 4ager ..... well another member whom he has attacked with lies, slander and threats is letting his misuse of JHU computers slip to the appropriate people there. The net is closing on the lead troll, FOestology aka cat taco man. He really flipped out when it was revealed that yet another group of members have retained a P.I. to run him to ground. When the cold, hard light of truth is shown upon these cowards, they will go to ground faster than a gopher who just had it hair parted by a 22-250. 100s of active user I.D.s in place. You wimps can ban until HE double L freezes over and you still will be outed as fast as the information is acquired. THEN when you make your threats to harm other members (the last refuge of a yellow belly scum sucking dog) you will find actions have consequences. You dolts started this fight but you will not ever finish it. Quick now, run to Mr. Post Count aka Bin and get this user ID banned, You have had so many banned, you have lost track. What you are too stupid to realize is that you have thrown a lot of innocents under the bus in your quest to have absolute control of the site. So instead of a few poed folks you now have a dozen plus linked by email and phone who are cooperating to ensure your miserable lives only become moreso.
We're here, (you think) we're queer, get used to it you racist, homophobic, women hating azzwipes.
Hey FO you twisted yellowbellied, scum sucking dog, coward and general worthless waste of time...... I thought you like to know....LMAO
Bricktop who is really Robert Brown who lives at 830 Willment Place in Edmond OK and is also using Miles Massey in his nasty attacks on members who have serious physical illnesses accompanied by 4ager who is Sean Clarkson who is using John Hopkins University computers to post here while he should be working. Brickhead is no bigshot at Oklahoma University, in fact they have never heard of him and 4ager ..... well another member whom he has attacked with lies, slander and threats is letting his misuse of JHU computers slip to the appropriate people there. The net is closing on the lead troll, FOestology aka cat taco man. He really flipped out when it was revealed that yet another group of members have retained a P.I. to run him to ground. When the cold, hard light of truth is shown upon these cowards, they will go to ground faster than a gopher who just had it hair parted by a 22-250. 100s of active user I.D.s in place. You wimps can ban until HE double L freezes over and you still will be outed as fast as the information is acquired. THEN when you make your threats to harm other members (the last refuge of a yellow belly scum sucking dog) you will find actions have consequences. You dolts started this fight but you will not ever finish it. Quick now, run to Mr. Post Count aka Bin and get this user ID banned, You have had so many banned, you have lost track. What you are too stupid to realize is that you have thrown a lot of innocents under the bus in your quest to have absolute control of the site. So instead of a few poed folks you now have a dozen plus linked by email and phone who are cooperating to ensure your miserable lives only become moreso.
We're here, (you think) we're queer, get used to it you racist, homophobic, women hating azzwipes.
You poor bumbling idiotic paranoid sociopath. The phfucking lunacy that escapes your trembling lady fingers is so far fetched and of such volume, that you can't even begin to remember half the stupid sheit you've typed. Always humorous to wind you up and watch you frolic about. Geriatric fairy TROLLS flapping their wings and bumping their diseased gums always yield a chuckle....
Be sure and give Karen my salutations. She'll be hearing ALL about your Internet exploits and shenanigans...
Hey FO you twisted yellowbellied, scum sucking dog, coward and general worthless waste of time...... I thought you like to know....LMAO
Bricktop who is really Robert Brown who lives at 830 Willment Place in Edmond OK and is also using Miles Massey in his nasty attacks on members who have serious physical illnesses accompanied by 4ager who is Sean Clarkson who is using John Hopkins University computers to post here while he should be working. Brickhead is no bigshot at Oklahoma University, in fact they have never heard of him and 4ager ..... well another member whom he has attacked with lies, slander and threats is letting his misuse of JHU computers slip to the appropriate people there. The net is closing on the lead troll, FOestology aka cat taco man. He really flipped out when it was revealed that yet another group of members have retained a P.I. to run him to ground. When the cold, hard light of truth is shown upon these cowards, they will go to ground faster than a gopher who just had it hair parted by a 22-250. 100s of active user I.D.s in place. You wimps can ban until HE double L freezes over and you still will be outed as fast as the information is acquired. THEN when you make your threats to harm other members (the last refuge of a yellow belly scum sucking dog) you will find actions have consequences. You dolts started this fight but you will not ever finish it. Quick now, run to Mr. Post Count aka Bin and get this user ID banned, You have had so many banned, you have lost track. What you are too stupid to realize is that you have thrown a lot of innocents under the bus in your quest to have absolute control of the site. So instead of a few poed folks you now have a dozen plus linked by email and phone who are cooperating to ensure your miserable lives only become moreso.
We're here, (you think) we're queer, get used to it you racist, homophobic, women hating azzwipes.
Sounds like this same rifle was mentioned here by Safariman as a potential trade offer right at a week before their bankruptcy filing. Obviously he must have still had it just a bit over a couple of months later during the afore mentioned pizza restaurant fundraiser to help out with his kidney transplant surgery expenses.
OK, now you have gone and done it! I am officially in the hunt for an FN/FAL. I will wait for a bit and sell off something I have or try to work a trade deal at a gun show, but the CETME is going to become an FN/FAL rifle. I probably have too many varmint only bolt actions, so one. of them can turn into one or more AR-15's as well.
Splattermatic, I am 6'3" and 245lbs. Are we close in size? I often find that rifles considered too big or too heavy for some folks are quite comfortable in my hands. I almost never can find gloves that fit my mitts, I am guessing from the photos that you suffer from the same ailments.
If you ever want one of your good semi automatics to become a really nice sporting or varminting rifle with great wood and barrel etc. PM me. I also have a synthetic stocked Remmy pump in 35 Whelen that could be sacrificed to the tools of battle.
Thanks so much for sharing your insight and experience.
GunGeek/Kevin, I much appreciate your insights here as well. You have added much value to these discussions. One of my first 'bucket list' post Kidney transplant hopes is a long ride on my Harley and the back highways from SE Oregon to Reno that I drove via car once are a prime candidate for that trip. Look for a turbocharged hot Rod Sportster down your way topped by a big guy with a mile wide grin from a new lease on life to stop by and take you out for burgers and beer. I 'might' just maybe, let you go for a spin on the beast, too
I want this rifle SO bad.... I am going to be looking at my cash flow really hard the next week or so as some of my incomes arrive in. If this is here in 7-10 days, and I receive what I am expecting this one will find a permanent home in Walla Walla.
I had one just like it and had to sell it when my Kidneys first went into total end stage renal failure and I miss it.
Hey FO you twisted yellowbellied, scum sucking dog, coward and general worthless waste of time...... I thought you like to know....LMAO
Bricktop who is really Robert Brown who lives at 830 Willment Place in Edmond OK and is also using Miles Massey in his nasty attacks on members who have serious physical illnesses accompanied by 4ager who is Sean Clarkson who is using John Hopkins University computers to post here while he should be working. Brickhead is no bigshot at Oklahoma University, in fact they have never heard of him and 4ager ..... well another member whom he has attacked with lies, slander and threats is letting his misuse of JHU computers slip to the appropriate people there. The net is closing on the lead troll, FOestology aka cat taco man. He really flipped out when it was revealed that yet another group of members have retained a P.I. to run him to ground. When the cold, hard light of truth is shown upon these cowards, they will go to ground faster than a gopher who just had it hair parted by a 22-250. 100s of active user I.D.s in place. You wimps can ban until HE double L freezes over and you still will be outed as fast as the information is acquired. THEN when you make your threats to harm other members (the last refuge of a yellow belly scum sucking dog) you will find actions have consequences. You dolts started this fight but you will not ever finish it. Quick now, run to Mr. Post Count aka Bin and get this user ID banned, You have had so many banned, you have lost track. What you are too stupid to realize is that you have thrown a lot of innocents under the bus in your quest to have absolute control of the site. So instead of a few poed folks you now have a dozen plus linked by email and phone who are cooperating to ensure your miserable lives only become moreso.
We're here, (you think) we're queer, get used to it you racist, homophobic, women hating azzwipes.
Jesus but this Root guy has some problems.Nut job for sure.
Hey FO you twisted yellowbellied, scum sucking dog, coward and general worthless waste of time...... I thought you like to know....LMAO
Bricktop who is really Robert Brown who lives at 830 Willment Place in Edmond OK and is also using Miles Massey in his nasty attacks on members who have serious physical illnesses accompanied by 4ager who is Sean Clarkson who is using John Hopkins University computers to post here while he should be working. Brickhead is no bigshot at Oklahoma University, in fact they have never heard of him and 4ager ..... well another member whom he has attacked with lies, slander and threats is letting his misuse of JHU computers slip to the appropriate people there. The net is closing on the lead troll, FOestology aka cat taco man. He really flipped out when it was revealed that yet another group of members have retained a P.I. to run him to ground. When the cold, hard light of truth is shown upon these cowards, they will go to ground faster than a gopher who just had it hair parted by a 22-250. 100s of active user I.D.s in place. You wimps can ban until HE double L freezes over and you still will be outed as fast as the information is acquired. THEN when you make your threats to harm other members (the last refuge of a yellow belly scum sucking dog) you will find actions have consequences. You dolts started this fight but you will not ever finish it. Quick now, run to Mr. Post Count aka Bin and get this user ID banned, You have had so many banned, you have lost track. What you are too stupid to realize is that you have thrown a lot of innocents under the bus in your quest to have absolute control of the site. So instead of a few poed folks you now have a dozen plus linked by email and phone who are cooperating to ensure your miserable lives only become moreso.
We're here, (you think) we're queer, get used to it you racist, homophobic, women hating azzwipes.
Jesus but this Root guy has some problems.Nut job for sure.
Yep. Total psycho. Wonder if he has a real job? He sure spends a lot of time here. I guess all that stalking is a full-time job in itself.
Sounds like this same rifle was mentioned here by Safariman as a potential trade offer right at a week before their bankruptcy filing. Obviously he must have still had it just a bit over a couple of months later during the afore mentioned pizza restaurant fundraiser to help out with his kidney transplant surgery expenses.
OK, now you have gone and done it! I am officially in the hunt for an FN/FAL. I will wait for a bit and sell off something I have or try to work a trade deal at a gun show, but the CETME is going to become an FN/FAL rifle. I probably have too many varmint only bolt actions, so one. of them can turn into one or more AR-15's as well.
Splattermatic, I am 6'3" and 245lbs. Are we close in size? I often find that rifles considered too big or too heavy for some folks are quite comfortable in my hands. I almost never can find gloves that fit my mitts, I am guessing from the photos that you suffer from the same ailments.
If you ever want one of your good semi automatics to become a really nice sporting or varminting rifle with great wood and barrel etc. PM me. I also have a synthetic stocked Remmy pump in 35 Whelen that could be sacrificed to the tools of battle.
Thanks so much for sharing your insight and experience.
GunGeek/Kevin, I much appreciate your insights here as well. You have added much value to these discussions. One of my first 'bucket list' post Kidney transplant hopes is a long ride on my Harley and the back highways from SE Oregon to Reno that I drove via car once are a prime candidate for that trip. Look for a turbocharged hot Rod Sportster down your way topped by a big guy with a mile wide grin from a new lease on life to stop by and take you out for burgers and beer. I 'might' just maybe, let you go for a spin on the beast, too
Wonder how he got his photobucket to work to post pics? It was always acting up on him so he conveniently couldn't post pics here.
To answer the question of Larry's employment..He's an old angry closetted man, on a somewhat limited income- translation: he's got a wife who is satisfied by the illusion of an upper class insulated life in Florida, while he pretends he's a gay blade Hemmingway in wild Wyoming. Sadly, nobody buys in to their illusions but them. Expect implosion someday when wife and sons discover the sick mess that Larry has made of his life.
Sounds like this same rifle was mentioned here by Safariman as a potential trade offer right at a week before their bankruptcy filing. Obviously he must have still had it just a bit over a couple of months later during the afore mentioned pizza restaurant fundraiser to help out with his kidney transplant surgery expenses.
OK, now you have gone and done it! I am officially in the hunt for an FN/FAL. I will wait for a bit and sell off something I have or try to work a trade deal at a gun show, but the CETME is going to become an FN/FAL rifle. I probably have too many varmint only bolt actions, so one. of them can turn into one or more AR-15's as well.
Splattermatic, I am 6'3" and 245lbs. Are we close in size? I often find that rifles considered too big or too heavy for some folks are quite comfortable in my hands. I almost never can find gloves that fit my mitts, I am guessing from the photos that you suffer from the same ailments.
If you ever want one of your good semi automatics to become a really nice sporting or varminting rifle with great wood and barrel etc. PM me. I also have a synthetic stocked Remmy pump in 35 Whelen that could be sacrificed to the tools of battle.
Thanks so much for sharing your insight and experience.
GunGeek/Kevin, I much appreciate your insights here as well. You have added much value to these discussions. One of my first 'bucket list' post Kidney transplant hopes is a long ride on my Harley and the back highways from SE Oregon to Reno that I drove via car once are a prime candidate for that trip. Look for a turbocharged hot Rod Sportster down your way topped by a big guy with a mile wide grin from a new lease on life to stop by and take you out for burgers and beer. I 'might' just maybe, let you go for a spin on the beast, too
Wonder how he got his photobucket to work to post pics? It was always acting up on him so he conveniently couldn't post pics here.
It looks like he used another person's Photobucket account. It's wide open for everyone to see all the other photos's posted there including the real first and last name of the account holder, too.
Sounds like this same rifle was mentioned here by Safariman as a potential trade offer right at a week before their bankruptcy filing. Obviously he must have still had it just a bit over a couple of months later during the afore mentioned pizza restaurant fundraiser to help out with his kidney transplant surgery expenses.
OK, now you have gone and done it! I am officially in the hunt for an FN/FAL. I will wait for a bit and sell off something I have or try to work a trade deal at a gun show, but the CETME is going to become an FN/FAL rifle. I probably have too many varmint only bolt actions, so one. of them can turn into one or more AR-15's as well.
Splattermatic, I am 6'3" and 245lbs. Are we close in size? I often find that rifles considered too big or too heavy for some folks are quite comfortable in my hands. I almost never can find gloves that fit my mitts, I am guessing from the photos that you suffer from the same ailments.
If you ever want one of your good semi automatics to become a really nice sporting or varminting rifle with great wood and barrel etc. PM me. I also have a synthetic stocked Remmy pump in 35 Whelen that could be sacrificed to the tools of battle.
Thanks so much for sharing your insight and experience.
GunGeek/Kevin, I much appreciate your insights here as well. You have added much value to these discussions. One of my first 'bucket list' post Kidney transplant hopes is a long ride on my Harley and the back highways from SE Oregon to Reno that I drove via car once are a prime candidate for that trip. Look for a turbocharged hot Rod Sportster down your way topped by a big guy with a mile wide grin from a new lease on life to stop by and take you out for burgers and beer. I 'might' just maybe, let you go for a spin on the beast, too
Wonder how he got his photobucket to work to post pics? It was always acting up on him so he conveniently couldn't post pics here.
It looks like he used another person's Photobucket account. It's wide open for everyone to see all the other photos's posted there including the real first and last name of the account holder, too.
I uploaded the pic to my Photobucket account. His account is private. You can see the link to the pics in his ad......and it's definitely safariman.
Hearth and home are A.O.K right now, but thanks for your concern. Financial problems have not been brought up here in a fairly long time as the situation is much improved compared to 2 and 3 years ago. But, your point is valid.
The "situation" is much Improved? Right in the middle of Bankruptcy? Imagine that.
I want this rifle SO bad.... I am going to be looking at my cash flow really hard the next week or so as some of my incomes arrive in. If this is here in 7-10 days, and I receive what I am expecting this one will find a permanent home in Walla Walla.
I had one just like it and had to sell it when my Kidneys first went into total end stage renal failure and I miss it.
Directly - via Gunbroker message: "I would not be selling this rifle if it were not for the need to come up with lots of cash for my wife's mothers recent passing and funeral expenses. "
But he was still entertaining trades. Song and dance, song and dance.
Directly - via Gunbroker message: "I would not be selling this rifle if it were not for the need to come up with lots of cash for my wife's mothers recent passing and funeral expenses. "
Directly - via Gunbroker message: "I would not be selling this rifle if it were not for the need to come up with lots of cash for my wife's mothers recent passing and funeral expenses. "
But he was still entertaining trades. Song and dance, song and dance.
A 'good Christian' always needs to justify their decisions/choices so as to not appear as a bald faced lie!!! Thought his last post here was that he had a 'moment' where the stupid prick seen the error of his thieving, conniving ways and was taking a break to change himself? Guess that moment has passed like the rest of his chit. When that thieving prick croaks he'll fry so fast and hot there will be more soot, ash and destruction then from Mt St. Helens!!!!
Still asking the Lord in my prayers for that 'nut kick' to him before my demise. Of course I wouldn't hesitate at the chance to stomp his shriveled dead nuts into the bottom of his coffin either.lol
In all fairness, his mother-in-law did pass only a week or so after he purchased that rifle. But we was still willing to trade – apparently the funeral home considers AR's and Rock Island pistols as legal tender.
Serious note - condolences to asphaltangel on the passing of her mother.
He was an internet gun forum troll/mall ninja type legend of sorts several years back. He also went by other handles besides Gecko45.
Google "Gecko45" and/or "Gunkid", or, "tactical wheelbarrow"
(Just be careful not to be drinking anything while you're reading some of the posts he made.)
To his credit though, as bizarre of a character as he was, I don't recall ever hearing of him accused of being a scheming, deceitful con man, exploiting others trust for personal profit.
Interesting news article I came across. Note who spoke in favor of recreational use of MJ.
Public Split On Pot Ban At Commission Hearing SEPTEMBER 3, 2014 BY MJ NEWS NETWORK 1 COMMENT Speakers at a hearing in Walla Walla Tuesday delivered sharply differing opinions on allowing recreational marijuana operations in the county. WASHINGTON: Speakers at a hearing Tuesday delivered sharply differing opinions on allowing recreational marijuana operations in Walla Walla County.
The 12 people who offered comments to county commissioners were evenly divided between pro and con, with half in favor and half urging prohibition. Commissioners voted 2-1 to ban it after first considering possible zoning rules.
People who urged going ahead with permitting pot operations touted the drug’s medical benefits and the potential for tax revenue and job creation. Opponents, however, said allowing marijuana to be openly grown and sold would endanger children and families and not produce any tax windfalls.
“I don’t want to be high, I just want to be pain-free and functioning,” said Mark Claiborne. Characterizing himself as “conservative enough that I make Rush Limbaugh look like a pinko,” Claiborne described how cannabis, particularly liquid extracts, has help him control pain associated with an inherited kidney disease.
“I don’t want to be high, I just want to be pain-free and functioning,” said Mark Claiborne. Characterizing himself as “conservative enough that I make Rush Limbaugh look like a pinko,” Claiborne described how cannabis, particularly liquid extracts, has help him control pain associated with an inherited kidney disease.
Well, he can put down the bong, cause he has a new kidney now...
Did anyone catch that on the GB ad, he listed himself as a "Retired Africa Pro"?
Yea, no arrogance or being self absorbed with ones past in that post!!!!!!
Great combination, another drug user dealing firearms! Isn't mind altering substances and firearms together illegal? Should be! No wonder nothing good absorbs into that pricks melon! DRUGGIE!
It would seem that Mrs Safariman is a con lady of her own right. She has written many times on the forum that she has much experience and is employed in the mental health field. Her LinkedIn profile indicates that she is an employee/owner of a day care facility and has been for 10 years. Hmmmmm.........makes one wonder what else there could be?
It has been brought to my attention that this may be his ex. (didn't know he had an ex) If so I stand corrected and issue an apology. It appears that I was indeed mistaken in my evaluation of theLinkedin bio. I do issue an apology to the current Ms Safariman.
It would seem that Mrs Safariman is a con lady of her own right. She has written many times on the forum that she has much experience and is employed in the mental health field. Her LinkedIn profile indicates that she is an employee/owner of a day care facility and has been for 10 years. Hmmmmm.........makes one wonder what else there could be?
WTF Explains alot if true You can't make this [bleep] up......
maybe my memory is bad , or all my experiences here just lucky, but I never ran into a creep on this sight.
I read this and like another post earlier my spidy senses went off with the op's first post, where he needed money for medical bills , but was open to trades...
Having BTDT with 7 ops in ten years, I knew something was fowl. So I read the rest of this train wreck. Every turn I thought rock bottom had been reached. Boy was I wrong.....
7 grams and a bent Oly can pipe for sale or trade. I am VERY interested in trades for turbos, winches and "insurance" sales leads....the older the better.
Wonder how his lil cupcake feels about his cheating????
I mean as many times as he has screwed or tried to screw 'his friends and buddies' I doubt he has the drive to keep or get a good boner for her!!!! A good man like him can only do so much, even with a prayer for 'good wood' surely isn't answered at every request is it? Maybe the "Good Christians" like Mr Claiborne have more trouble getting rid of a permanent boner than getting one??? Kinda queezy thinking about him with a boner even with him being a BIG PRICK and all!
SM has fooled MOST members here for years. Very likely he has fooled "cupcake" also.
I sincerely doubt she's fooled, she has been on here selling firearms when he was recovering from one of his Winchester rifle "I didn't know it wasn't original/NIB/uber rare" sales that turned on him.
With all the dealings I've done on the fire, he's the only one that got me good, and like a fool, I even donated to his cause a few years ago! Live and learn.
Now I see why Root is enamored with Claiborne (aside from being greedy grubs all to willing to screw people out of $$)... both of them like to hide behind their wives skirts.
I see him at gun shows a couple times a year. All his guns have stories that make them worth five times what they'd be worth if you owned them. Usually 3-4 stories per gun per show! Those meds must be hell on the memory.
Now that I have completed my purchases and have all the items (something you trolls would know nothing about) I'll be leaving the campfire for good.
BUT before I left, I did drop a tad over a grand to a computer forensic P.I. who was kind enough to dig out all the identification info on you and the worst of the other trolls.
That information along with the 100s of posts (printed out) has been supplied to the police in both of my home ports so should any of you spineless wimps go beyond hot air, the piper will be paid.
The OU police were MOST interested in Bricktop especially and are still investigating his relationship with the University. Really foolish of him (and you other dipscheits) to post threats on the internet (chuckle).
As you and the other tough guys have said to me for nearly 8 years: "I know who you are, I know where you live.".......well azzwipes, now we are on an even footing. (chuckle)
Several others are seeking legal advice about going after the dolt Bin for his serial violations of both CA state and Federal laws on this site. I can't be bothered as life is too short to waste it on idiots like him.(and y'all)
So you have fun pretending to be a big shots, some day you may threaten a person with my means and, unlike me, no sense of humor.
Now that I have completed my purchases and have all the items (something you trolls would know nothing about) I'll be leaving the campfire for good.
BUT before I left, I did drop a tad over a grand to a computer forensic P.I. who was kind enough to dig out all the identification info on you and the worst of the other trolls.
That information along with the 100s of posts (printed out) has been supplied to the police in both of my home ports so should any of you spineless wimps go beyond hot air, the piper will be paid.
The OU police were MOST interested in Bricktop especially and are still investigating his relationship with the University. Really foolish of him (and you other dipscheits) to post threats on the internet (chuckle).
As you and the other tough guys have said to me for nearly 8 years: "I know who you are, I know where you live.".......well azzwipes, now we are on an even footing. (chuckle)
Several others are seeking legal advice about going after the dolt Bin for his serial violations of both CA state and Federal laws on this site. I can't be bothered as life is too short to waste it on idiots like him.(and y'all)
So you have fun pretending to be a big shots, some day you may threaten a person with my means and, unlike me, no sense of humor.
L.Root Seems Crazier Than [bleep] House Rat... And To Think I Hunt In His Back Yard..I've Spent Many Of Days Around Half-Moon Lake, And Up Sweeney Creek..
Larry "Douchebag" Root is nothing more than an old geriatric PhfuckTard TROLL...
She accuses everyone who injects reality into her dream world and paranoid delusions of being liars, trolls, meanie thugs, and homicidal maniacs.
Threats against you and your family's life??!... spare us the histrionic drama and paranoid delusions sugartits.
Haven't forgotten about Karen.... just biding my time on when to drop the "files" in her lap. She'll be SO proud!
See you around old goat, as everyone knows you'll be back under yet another screen name...
BTW, just like your "priest", you'd be well advised to kick your so called "IP PI" square in the nuts and demand a refund of your social security check.
This is quoted from Sherri today on the fire. Didn't want to mess up that thread so brought it here. I thought they just went BR in Feb or so. Wonder how in the world they could afford a new motorcycle.
Teal, Congrats on getting your endorsement and thanks for a fun thread. I've enjoyed looking at all the pics posted.
I've been riding a HD Street 750, and it's been a nice upgrade to my Suzuki Savage 650. It's primarily water cooled, and it's my understanding that only the V-Rod, in the HD line, has used the water-cooled engine.
I use my Street for work commute, day trips, and look forward to an 1-2 day trip up to Spokane and Northern Idaho. I recently took it to a bike rally in Eastern Oregon and had a blast riding with other riders on all types of bikes. The Street is a real conversation piece, as this bike is unlike anything else HD has came out with.
If you enjoy polishing chrome, this bike is not for you. The Streets have mostly black for the engine and exhaust. I added the Screaming Eagle air cleaner and 2 brothers exhaust for some additional horse power....and talk about easy to handle! Other riders commented on how I could take the corners in the mountains with ease and speed.
Google the HD website and you can take a look. They come in flat black, glossy black, and a deep red. ...customizing the bike is the fun part.
One other suggestion would be to find out when your local HD dealership is offering trial rides on their bikes. This is what I did and the bike sold itself.
Quote from Safariman's last post in this thread on 05/22/15.
Quote
Yeah, an Oregon DOI employee found me to have lied to investigators, when they compared notes from over 6 years of questioning me and found discrepncies when i had to go from memory each and every time plus truly was becoming very ill and weak, but there is not any mention of anyone being financially harmed by following my recomendations because they were not.
As a result of the transaction, Ms. Holmes actually incurred withdrawal penalties of $2,017.08. In addition, because the CDs with the bulk of the Holmes‟s money paid an interest rate higher than the expected effective rate of return on the annuity, Ms. Holmes stood to lose additional earnings on her money for the next ten years. Furthermore, under the terms of the annuity, Ms. Holmes would be unable to withdraw most of her money for the next nine years without paying a penalty. Mr. Claiborne told Ms. Holmes that transferring money into the annuity would shield it
Quote
13. On September 22, 2006, the Division received a letter, signed by Norma Holmes, responding to Mr. Claiborne‟s letters. (Ex. A6.) Jane Holmes assisted her mother in writing the letter. (Test. of Holmes.) The letter asserted that Mr. Claiborne told the Holmes that the banks were waiving all penalties for closing the CDs. Norma Holmes also asserted that Mr. Claiborne told her that the Bankers Life annuity would operate “just like a savings account” and that he did not explain that the Holmes would have restricted access to withdrawals for ten years. (Ex. A6 at 1.) Ms. Holmes also asserted that Mr. Claiborne did not explain that she would need to annuitize1 the annuity in order to shield the money from creditors should Mr. Holmes enter a nursing home. Furthermore, Ms. Holmes wrote that she did not have any “dealings” with Mr. Claiborne between the time he sold her a long term care insurance policy and the day he sold her the annuity. (Id.) Ms. Holmes wrote that the Holmes‟ did not desire to make changes in their investments and felt more secure having their money in three banks, rather than having “all of our eggs in one basket.” (Id.)
Quote
Her purchase of the annuity resulted in an immediate financial loss and a potential loss of future interest earnings. It also placed restrictions on her access to her investments for a significant period of time. It made little economic sense for an elderly couple, one of whom was 84, the other 76, to place their money into an annuity that placed limits on their access for nearly a decade. The evidence therefore established that Mr. Claiborne failed to conduct a reasonable inquiry and did not, indeed could not, have reasonable grounds to believe that the annuity he recommended to Ms. Holmes was suitable for her. As such, the Division concludes (as did the ALJ), that Mr. Claiborne violated OAR 836-080-0090.
Quote
15. On December 4, 2007, Bankers Life reached a settlement with Ms. Holmes which included the surrender of the annuity, without penalty. In addition, Bankers Life agreed to reimburse Ms. Holmes for all bank penalties associated with surrendering her CDs. Edward Holmes died in September 2009. Norma Holmes died in April 2010. (Test. of Holmes.)
Quote
Bankers Life agreed to pay a civil penalty of $150,000 for violations of OAR 836-080-0090 that occurred from January 28, 2005 through October 28, 2008, the effective date of the Order. In exchange, the Division agreed that it would not take any enforcement action against Bankers Life for violations of OAR 836-080-
Page 16 of 30 Amended Proposed Order, Claiborne, Case No. INS 10-02-005
0090 that occurred prior to October 28, 2008.
All the way back in May of 2001 he was charged with falsifying a customer's height (added 1") and weight (subtracted 108 lbs) on their application for short-term convalescent care insurance.
Cost him a $500 penalty plus a three month suspension of his Oregon non-resident insurance agent license that time.
This is quoted from Sherri today on the fire. Didn't want to mess up that thread so brought it here. I thought they just went BR in Feb or so. Wonder how in the world they could afford a new motorcycle.
Teal, Congrats on getting your endorsement and thanks for a fun thread. I've enjoyed looking at all the pics posted.
I've been riding a HD Street 750, and it's been a nice upgrade to my Suzuki Savage 650. It's primarily water cooled, and it's my understanding that only the V-Rod, in the HD line, has used the water-cooled engine.
I use my Street for work commute, day trips, and look forward to an 1-2 day trip up to Spokane and Northern Idaho. I recently took it to a bike rally in Eastern Oregon and had a blast riding with other riders on all types of bikes. The Street is a real conversation piece, as this bike is unlike anything else HD has came out with.
If you enjoy polishing chrome, this bike is not for you. The Streets have mostly black for the engine and exhaust. I added the Screaming Eagle air cleaner and 2 brothers exhaust for some additional horse power....and talk about easy to handle! Other riders commented on how I could take the corners in the mountains with ease and speed.
Google the HD website and you can take a look. They come in flat black, glossy black, and a deep red. ...customizing the bike is the fun part.
One other suggestion would be to find out when your local HD dealership is offering trial rides on their bikes. This is what I did and the bike sold itself.
This is quoted from Sherri today on the fire. Didn't want to mess up that thread so brought it here. I thought they just went BR in Feb or so. Wonder how in the world they could afford a new motorcycle.
Teal, Congrats on getting your endorsement and thanks for a fun thread. I've enjoyed looking at all the pics posted.
I've been riding a HD Street 750, and it's been a nice upgrade to my Suzuki Savage 650. It's primarily water cooled, and it's my understanding that only the V-Rod, in the HD line, has used the water-cooled engine.
I use my Street for work commute, day trips, and look forward to an 1-2 day trip up to Spokane and Northern Idaho. I recently took it to a bike rally in Eastern Oregon and had a blast riding with other riders on all types of bikes. The Street is a real conversation piece, as this bike is unlike anything else HD has came out with.
If you enjoy polishing chrome, this bike is not for you. The Streets have mostly black for the engine and exhaust. I added the Screaming Eagle air cleaner and 2 brothers exhaust for some additional horse power....and talk about easy to handle! Other riders commented on how I could take the corners in the mountains with ease and speed.
Google the HD website and you can take a look. They come in flat black, glossy black, and a deep red. ...customizing the bike is the fun part.
One other suggestion would be to find out when your local HD dealership is offering trial rides on their bikes. This is what I did and the bike sold itself.
~ Sherri
Maybe he goes by Mark-Sherri or Sherri-Mark.
I was thinking the same thing, sure as h e l l looks like knuckleheads writings not hers......What a dope!
Sherri?/ Mark? Fulla $hit. I don't give a crap about their financial BS. But, when they start braggin" about Harley's great handling, I had enough. Had enough HD'S and they were OK, but never handle like European, especially Italian, bikes. You ain't riding hard unless sparks are coming off the bike in corners.
i'm sure the fine folks who put on a fund raiser at their restaurant for this con mans kidney operation, would love to know these people are riding new motorcycles and bidding on reloading components for very expensive rifles. the balls on these two are Uber with a capital Ewww.
I am not and have not ever portrayed myself as a PH, and my hunts are booked only through Zimbabwean operators who are native born and legal as well as ethical.
I am normally an observer in this epic but damn. The guy F'ng has a pizza joint having a fund raiser for him then a week later is talking about his motorcycles and trying to buy Rigby stuff. Dudes a piece of work for sure.
I am normally an observer in this epic but damn. The guy F'ng has a pizza joint having a fund raiser for him then a week later is talking about his motorcycles and trying to buy Rigby stuff. Dudes a piece of work for sure.
Don't forget a fundraiser to the mother-in-law's funeral expenses (leaving aside the fact that she wasn't destitute and that her children aren't either) as a means to move more stuff on here to the gullible.
Safariman's first five post way back when he registered for membership here are quite revealing.
His first two posts were in a thread started by Pete E telling about his African plains game safari. Safariman posted in the middle of that thread and clearly tried to one-up Pete E's hunt with his high dollar bull elephant and cape buffalo safari story.
Then in his very next three posts he highly recommends that others use the booking agency he and his friends prefer,... Aahsome African Adventures,... but, of course he neglects to say who (at that time) owned, Aahsome Africian Adventures LLC
i'm sure the fine folks who put on a fund raiser at their restaurant for this con mans kidney operation, would love to know these people are riding new motorcycles and bidding on reloading components for very expensive rifles. the balls on these two are Uber with a capital Ewww.
You think those gas tanks are gonna fill themselves?
I'm fully aware of the Claiborne shenanigans, just wondering if any new "High Points" or Revelations were hit...
Well said gun that was sold to buy pills the money was used buy a model 70 pre 64 in a 300 H&H.. Then it was found out he he filed for bankruptcy and Larry Root chimed in saying SM did nothing wrong and that he and SM were keeping detailed logs for law enforcement and lawyers.. Then SM put the 300 H&H he bought with the funds for his pill bill on gunbroker for $2000.. Then it was found out a little pizza shop in walla walla had a fund raiser for SM before he took off for his kidney transplant. Then another revelation was found out that they had another fund raiser to help his wife with expenses for her moms passing/funeral. I'm sure I missed something
I'm fully aware of the Claiborne shenanigans, just wondering if any new "High Points" or Revelations were hit...
Well said gun that was sold to buy pills the money was used buy a model 70 pre 64 in a 300 H&H.. Then it was found out he he filed for bankruptcy and Larry Root chimed in saying SM did nothing wrong and that he and SM were keeping detailed logs for law enforcement and lawyers.. Then SM put the 300 H&H he bought with the funds for his pill bill on gunbroker for $2000.. Then it was found out a little pizza shop in walla walla had a fund raiser for SM before he took off for his kidney transplant. Then another revelation was found out that they had another fund raiser to help his wife with expenses for her moms passing/funeral. I'm sure I missed something
she's now claiming the money for the new bike came from a significant pay raise.
I'm fully aware of the Claiborne shenanigans, just wondering if any new "High Points" or Revelations were hit...
Well said gun that was sold to buy pills the money was used buy a model 70 pre 64 in a 300 H&H.. Then it was found out he he filed for bankruptcy and Larry Root chimed in saying SM did nothing wrong and that he and SM were keeping detailed logs for law enforcement and lawyers.. Then SM put the 300 H&H he bought with the funds for his pill bill on gunbroker for $2000.. Then it was found out a little pizza shop in walla walla had a fund raiser for SM before he took off for his kidney transplant. Then another revelation was found out that they had another fund raiser to help his wife with expenses for her moms passing/funeral. I'm sure I missed something
she's now claiming the money for the new bike came from a significant pay raise.
Somewhere in all of this he now has a 264 win mag and probably just itching to tell us what a barn burner it is that he can easily shoot out to 6,000 yds with it, by stuffing the case with a mixture or RL33 and Rl17 with a 120gr tsx... Oh and he was drawn for a cow elk tag close to home as well...
I'm fully aware of the Claiborne shenanigans, just wondering if any new "High Points" or Revelations were hit...
Well said gun that was sold to buy pills the money was used buy a model 70 pre 64 in a 300 H&H.. Then it was found out he he filed for bankruptcy and Larry Root chimed in saying SM did nothing wrong and that he and SM were keeping detailed logs for law enforcement and lawyers.. Then SM put the 300 H&H he bought with the funds for his pill bill on gunbroker for $2000.. Then it was found out a little pizza shop in walla walla had a fund raiser for SM before he took off for his kidney transplant. Then another revelation was found out that they had another fund raiser to help his wife with expenses for her moms passing/funeral. I'm sure I missed something
During the time of the bankrupt proceedings, when all assets were supposed to be declared, he was buying and selling custom guns that most likely never made it onto the property listings.
she's now claiming the money for the new bike came from a significant pay raise.
That's what happens when you rack up bills and have debt wiped away, leaving someone else to hold the bag.......significant pay raise!!
No one recovers - legitimately - from a Chapter 7 that fast. New bikes are bought on either cash (which would have been an asset in the Chapter 7 filing, or received afterward soon enough to require disclosure - i.e., an inheritance) or on credit (and no dealership is lending to anyone less than 6 months out from a Chapter 7).
As always with these two, something is very suspicious and definitely not above board.
she's now claiming the money for the new bike came from a significant pay raise.
That's what happens when you rack up bills and have debt wiped away, leaving someone else to hold the bag.......significant pay raise!!
No one recovers - legitimately - from a Chapter 7 that fast. New bikes are bought on either cash (which would have been an asset in the Chapter 7 filing, or received afterward soon enough to require disclosure - i.e., an inheritance) or on credit (and no dealership is lending to anyone less than 6 months out from a Chapter 7).
As always with these two, something is very suspicious and definitely not above board.
Like everything else post under a Claiborne handle, it is probably a half-truth, if not just a down-right lie. Can't believe anything either of them post.
As I posted on the motorcycle thread;
"No shame?, no guilt?, no remorse?, no conscience?, No good.".
Before I knew about Safariman, I got suckered into a sage rat hunt in Oregon with him. Mistake, BIG mistake. I never will respect a person that will blow a hole in a stock tank and not even slightly act like it was a bad thing no less try to fix it. Did I mention LIE after LIE?
No one recovers - legitimately - from a Chapter 7 that fast. New bikes are bought on either cash (which would have been an asset in the Chapter 7 filing, or received afterward soon enough to require disclosure - i.e., an inheritance) or on credit (and no dealership is lending to anyone less than 6 months out from a Chapter 7).
As always with these two, something is very suspicious and definitely not above board.
Like everything else post under a Claiborne handle, it is probably a half-truth, if not just a down-right lie. Can't believe anything either of them post.
As I posted on the motorcycle thread;
"No shame?, no guilt?, no remorse?, no conscience?, No good.".
Before I knew about Safariman, I got suckered into a sage rat hunt in Oregon with him. Mistake, BIG mistake. I never will respect a person that will blow a hole in a stock tank and not even slightly act like it was a bad thing no less try to fix it. Did I mention LIE after LIE?
Dam, wish somebody could bitch slap the smug bastid.
if i was so broke i had to have fundraisers for medicine and funerals and somehow saw my way clear of it and had a windfall like a job raise, i'd make damn sure i was filling the bank account for a while before i go and buy a fuggen motorcycle or gun so that i would not have to rely on other peoples charity for future emergencies. these people take the cake.
I imagine a whole lot of folks around the general area they live are seeing them for who/what they really are about by now, too.
The pizza restaurant that put on the fund raiser over five months ago to help out with Safariman's kidney transplant expenses still has his fund raiser announcement posted on their Facebook page even though several members here posted comments on it along with a direct link to this thread.
Apparently they must feel their customers need to be able to read it all otherwise they could have deleted just the comments and link made by the Campfire members or simply removed the fund raiser announcement entirely.
Thanks for the fundraiser........ Wish we could have raised more........ I'm still weak, tired and sickly but sure appreciate your support. Say, how do you like this new mostly custom, semi custom 750 I/We bought? We tore up the corners last weekend on our way to the bike rally. Custom paint is scheduled for next week. We call it the Tyronnasur. Take care, Sherri/Mark
I imagine a whole lot of folks around the general area they live are seeing them for who/what they really are about by now, too.
The pizza restaurant that put on the fund raiser over five months ago to help out with Safariman's kidney transplant expenses still has his fund raiser announcement posted on their Facebook page even though several members here posted comments on it along with a direct link to this thread.
Apparently they must feel their customers need to be able to read it all otherwise they could have deleted just the comments and link made by the Campfire members or simply removed the fund raiser announcement entirely.
I imagine a whole lot of folks around the general area they live are seeing them for who/what they really are about by now, too.
The pizza restaurant that put on the fund raiser over five months ago to help out with Safariman's kidney transplant expenses still has his fund raiser announcement posted on their Facebook page even though several members here posted comments on it along with a direct link to this thread.
Apparently they must feel their customers need to be able to read it all otherwise they could have deleted just the comments and link made by the Campfire members or simply removed the fund raiser announcement entirely.
Greetings everyone! Some of you may know me from 24 hour campfire where I am a frequent poster as well as buyer and seller in thier classifieds and have acheived Campfire Bwana status or rank, FWTW.
I am semi retired right now due to temporary health issues, but was at one time a top 1% in the Nation Insurance Producer and owned a dangerous game focused Hunt booking company Called Aahsome African Adventures. I have a couple of gun related articles and photos published in African Hunter Magazine and in the most recent Barnes Reloading Manual. That is me with a very dead Elephant in my Avatar.
I have been using and enjoying Kel Tech firearms for about 20 or so years and currently have in our home a P3AT and a PMR30. When my health improves, and thus my cash flow I hope to add a Bullpup 12ga and an SU16. Used to carry a PF-9 as my daily carry gun and may add another. Consider it one of the finest pocket gun formats extant.
Looking forward to learning more about my wonderful Kel Tech stuff, I and my beautiful wife are HUGE fans.
Details After booking hunts all over North America, including Alaska, for two decades, I finally started hunting in southern Africa and soon decided that Africa was so much more fun, and offered so much more in the area of successful hunts, good value for ones hunting adventure dollar and so very much more in the way of comfort and the treatment one receives while on safari compared to what I and my clients had ever experienced anywhere in the US that I closed down all US operations and began Aahsome African Adventures. Since I have focused my efforts on Africa I have had the great joy of assisting numerous clients enjoy their first ever African Safari. First Safari's have a special place in my heart and I genuinely enjoy assisting newcomers to the grand continent of Africa. I also have assisted many Safari veterans plan Safari's where they have successfully hunted all of the worlds largest, most dangerous and sought after animals. Many have taken trophies that will rank high into the various record keeping books. My operation is different from most in that I will not regularly book for a safari operator that I have not personally met, hunted with and experienced hunting camps with. Additionally, I do not book for operators whose 'Safari' area's are primarily farms and ranches. In my opinion, this is not the real Africa. It certainly is not what I grew up reading about and dreaming about and I doubt that it is what makes most of us want to travel there. Lastly, I try to help my clients with all aspects of thier safari experience including travel, packing, firearms and ammo counsel, taxidermy, shipping and what to expect and plan for in all area's. In short, I try to be a truly full service safari consultant and put my clients in areas and with Proffesional Hunters who are highly skilled and experienced, who hunt in truly wild places, and who are my friends. I invite you to allow me the great privilige of assiting you with your first, or next, African adventure. I am betting that once you do you will be back many times over. Good luck and good hunting! http://www.intelius.com/people/Mark-Claiborne/06dfy9v571t
Boy what a dandy.... why dontcha go away Mark. Glad I didn't take us up on the sage rat hunt, I mightta hurtcha, then you'd need that high $$$ insurance.....
Most everyone misspells a word now and then. Normally it's not a real big deal.
But, when it's for a write up advertising your business, and you want to present a professional image to potential customers, it certainly doesn't convey much in the way of professionalism to customers when you repeatedly capitalize and spell the word 'professional' incorrectly.
Quote
...I try to be a truly full service safari consultant and put my clients in areas and with Proffesional Hunters who are highly skilled...
Quote
Claiborne Insurance Services Inc. A Proffesional Corporation is a small, fairly new insurance company in Walla Walla, Washington. It opened in 2012 and now has an estimated $130,000 in yearly revenue and approximately 2 employees.
Seems like there is a constant trail of lies wherever this guy roams. This one is always good for a chuckle.
As passionate as he claims to be about Africa, there is a reason this clown never appeared on the AR forum to chat about safari or to peddle his aahsome company.....You can fool the fans - y'aint foolin' the players.
Seems like there is a constant trail of lies wherever this guy roams. This one is always good for a chuckle.
As passionate as he claims to be about Africa, there is a reason this clown never appeared on the AR forum to chat about safari or to peddle his aahsome company.....You can fool the fans - y'aint foolin' the players.
i'm sure the fine folks who put on a fund raiser at their restaurant for this con mans kidney operation, would love to know these people are riding new motorcycles and bidding on reloading components for very expensive rifles. the balls on these two are Uber with a capital Ewww.
Any way we can get that info to them? I'd love to see these two asswholes in jail.
Just getting fairy Larry out of thread title and the proper title added. Gotta make sure credit is given to someone who will lie, steal from the elderly and Thank God for the brilliance and courage to do both!!!!
Yer Welcome Mark. Oh, and hi to yer cupcake partner in crime. Don't want to leave her unmentioned!!!
Neither will log-on for days sometimes but let a new post be added to this thread and it won't be long before one of them has to check it out.
Even though it may say asphaltangel odds are strong that it's really Safariman thinking he's 'going under-cover' by logging on using his wife's account.
asphaltangel (Member #48288) User Registered On: 03/25/13 Last Online: Today at 02:55 PM
Neither will log-on for days sometimes but let a new post be added to this thread and it won't be long before one of them has to check it out.
Even though it may say asphaltangel odds are strong that it's really Safariman thinking he's 'going under-cover' by logging on using his wife's account.
asphaltangel (Member #48288) User Registered On: 03/25/13 Last Online: Today at 02:55 PM
Like I said... ...
safariman (Member #8086) User Registered On: 06/18/05 Last Online: 5 minutes 41 seconds ago
Neither will log-on for days sometimes but let a new post be added to this thread and it won't be long before one of them has to check it out.
Even though it may say asphaltangel odds are strong that it's really Safariman thinking he's 'going under-cover' by logging on using his wife's account.
asphaltangel (Member #48288) User Registered On: 03/25/13 Last Online: Today at 02:55 PM
As long as they don't post anything I'm good with that.
Don't know where that's hosted, so I boosted it for posteriority...
Might want to be careful. I heard a lot of the Harley guys say those things would shake loose a kidney...
ar·ro·gant ˈerəɡənt/ adjective having or revealing an exaggerated sense of one's own importance or abilities. "he's arrogant and opinionated"
synonyms: haughty, conceited, self-important, egotistic, full of oneself, superior; overbearing, pompous, bumptious, presumptuous, imperious, overweening; proud, immodest; informal high and mighty, too big for one's britches, too big for one's boots, big-headed, puffed up; rarehubristic "success has made him arrogant"
Being a man of the Bible, Mark surely knows and is ignoring the guidance of Proverbs 16:18; "Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.". Keep on riding down the road to perdition.
He can't. He's addicted to the con. In his mind, he's still going to win in the end. In his mind, he's smarter than anyone here and he can turn his reputation around again to where we'll all realize we were wrong, and he's an OK guy. It's sad to see that these kind of people aren't held accountable. She's as guilty as he is. Good Christians.
He can't. He's addicted to the con. In his mind, he's still going to win in the end. In his mind, he's smarter than anyone here and he can turn his reputation around again to where we'll all realize we were wrong, and he's an OK guy. It's sad to see that these kind of people aren't held accountable. She's as guilty as he is. Good Christians.
In case you missed it, Mark's case has been discharged and if you think, in your haters' dreams that any court will reopen it based on blah blah blah...
Originally Posted by oldman1942
1. The bankruptcy is over and done and will NOT be reopened. Mr. Mundy informs that he has received nothing from anyone on this site which is logical as to do so would require the informer to identify himself which would provide Mark a vehicle for a civil suit against that person. Like all blogs, this site has a lot of hot air but no one is going to identify themselves and end up in a nasty lawsuit unless they are a complete dunce.
I know you're still hanging around like the hemorrhoid you are Larry...
Figured I'd rub your nose in your ignorance and prove once gain how phfucking wrong you always are. Par for your pathetic course.
In case you missed it, Mark's case has been discharged and if you think, in your haters' dreams that any court will reopen it based on blah blah blah...
Originally Posted by oldman1942
1. The bankruptcy is over and done and will NOT be reopened. Mr. Mundy informs that he has received nothing from anyone on this site which is logical as to do so would require the informer to identify himself which would provide Mark a vehicle for a civil suit against that person. Like all blogs, this site has a lot of hot air but no one is going to identify themselves and end up in a nasty lawsuit unless they are a complete dunce.
I know you're still hanging around like the hemorrhoid you are Larry...
Figured I'd rub your nose in your ignorance and prove once gain how phfucking wrong you always are. Par for your pathetic course.
2/17/2015 23 Close Bankruptcy Case - Final Decree (text entry)
12/23/2014 22 Received Unsigned Order
12/16/2014 21 Received Unsigned Order
12/16/2014 20 Enlarge Time to File Reaffirmation Agreement
12/14/2014 19 BNC Certificate of Mailing - Discharge of Debtor
12/11/2014 18 Automatic Discharge of Debtor (ch 7)
Quote
What Is a 2004 Examination in Bankruptcy?
The 2004 examination in bankruptcy is like a deposition -- the trustee, creditor, or debtor can get more information about property, income, or possible fraud.
... Reasons the Trustee or a Creditor Might Conduct a 2004 Examination
2004 examinations occur in only a minority of bankruptcy cases. In most cases, you won’t be required to attend a 2004 examination unless you have a complicated bankruptcy or commit some type of fraud.
The following are some of the most common reasons the trustee or your creditors may schedule a 2004 examination: •to locate your property •to examine your financial transactions •to determine whether you lied on your bankruptcy papers or otherwise committed bankruptcy fraud, or •to determine whether you should be allowed to discharge (wipe out) one or more of your debts.
If anyone has hidden asset information, now is the time to get it to the Trustee. You are looking for assets that he held on the date of filing and did not disclose.
The 2004 exam also means that assets hidden will be seized, even if they were sold (they'll track down the new owners, seize them, and have the new owners file a claim against Mark & Sherri), and if they cannot be found then any other assets currently owned will be subject to a lien in the amount(s) of the unrecovered assets.
That means the good folks here on the campfire that bought items from Mark may very well be contacted, have the items seized, and they'll have to cooperate AND file claim against Claiborne.
Mark laid it all out, right here on the campfire, as to what he had... and you can bet it wasn't listed on the filings. The Trustee can and likely will perform a full and complete investigation (with or through the FBI and law enforcement). That will include any purchase/sales receipts, computer and cell phone records, etc.
Mark and Sherri will be DAMNED lucky if the Trustee doesn't turn that info. over to ATF and the Washington state authorities for any interstate gun deals without an FFL, or violations of the WA firearms transfer laws. And then there's the matter of the IRS possibly getting involved. If the Trustee finds tax discrepancies, that can be forwarded to the IRS officers and have them take a lookie-loo.
They're up sheit creek without a paddle. Phfucked to a degree that most of us don't ever want to imagine...
The 2004 exam also means that assets hidden will be seized, even if they were sold (they'll track down the new owners, seize them, and have the new owners file a claim against Mark & Sherri), and if they cannot be found then any other assets currently owned will be subject to a lien in the amount(s) of the unrecovered assets.
That means the good folks here on the campfire that bought items from Mark may very well be contacted, have the items seized, and they'll have to cooperate AND file claim against Claiborne.
Mark laid it all out, right here on the campfire, as to what he had... and you can bet it wasn't listed on the filings. The Trustee can and likely will perform a full and complete investigation (with or through the FBI and law enforcement). That will include any purchase/sales receipts, computer and cell phone records, etc.
Mark and Sherri will be DAMNED lucky if the Trustee doesn't turn that info. over to ATF and the Washington state authorities for any interstate gun deals without an FFL, or violations of the WA firearms transfer laws. And then there's the matter of the IRS possibly getting involved. If the Trustee finds tax discrepancies, that can be forwarded to the IRS officers and have them take a lookie-loo.
They're up sheit creek without a paddle. Phfucked to a degree that most of us don't ever want to imagine...
It isn't Christian, but it is K-A-R-M-A!
Since Mark was always claiming some sort of Christian high moral ground, he can spend his time in purgatory chewing on the words found in Proverbs 16:18, Luke 6:31, and Matthew 7:12. The very fact that Mark and Sherri came onto this site and flaunted their material wealth so shortly after closing a bankruptcy seems like the height of arrogance, pride, and stupidity to me. I have to wonder if the bankruptcy trustee would have reexamined the case if not for 24HCF members contacting him and pointing out Mark's and Sherri's posts.
I couldn't sleep last night so I read this thread from beginning to end. I knew safariman wasn't to be trusted but I had no idea just how bad everything was....
The 2004 exam also means that assets hidden will be seized, even if they were sold (they'll track down the new owners, seize them, and have the new owners file a claim against Mark & Sherri), and if they cannot be found then any other assets currently owned will be subject to a lien in the amount(s) of the unrecovered assets.
That means the good folks here on the campfire that bought items from Mark may very well be contacted, have the items seized, and they'll have to cooperate AND file claim against Claiborne.
Mark laid it all out, right here on the campfire, as to what he had... and you can bet it wasn't listed on the filings. The Trustee can and likely will perform a full and complete investigation (with or through the FBI and law enforcement). That will include any purchase/sales receipts, computer and cell phone records, etc.
Mark and Sherri will be DAMNED lucky if the Trustee doesn't turn that info. over to ATF and the Washington state authorities for any interstate gun deals without an FFL, or violations of the WA firearms transfer laws. And then there's the matter of the IRS possibly getting involved. If the Trustee finds tax discrepancies, that can be forwarded to the IRS officers and have them take a lookie-loo.
They're up sheit creek without a paddle. Phfucked to a degree that most of us don't ever want to imagine...
I would think, too, if it turns out that their bankruptcy is not discharged due to fraudulent discloser of assets, Asphaltangel could also be subject to garnishment of her wages by creditors listed in their bankruptcy filings, should they choose to do so. The same goes for Safariman, if he has already, or does in the future, return to working at some kind of a paying job.
i'm not going to have to forfeit all those barbershop quartet gospel CD's i bought from him am i? i'd give up my fuggen kidney before..... ah, nevermind.
I have an image of him back at the 'hearing' in a wheelchair, with an oxygen bottle hooked up, looking like one of those mob guys in the movies trying to keep out of the pen.
I have an image of him back at the 'hearing' in a wheelchair, with an oxygen bottle hooked up, looking like one of those mob guys in the movies trying to keep out of the pen.
My buddy that's a trustee said when a case gets reopen they go through everything with a fine tooth comb, they more likey will call other party's to help with the search, 99.9% of the time it's not good for the party or should I say Mark and Sherri. Me thinks there both up the creek without a paddle.
My buddy that's a trustee said when a case gets reopen they go through everything with a fine tooth comb, they more likey will call other party's to help with the search, 99.9% of the time it's not good for the party or should I say Mark and Sherri. Me thinks there both up the creek without a paddle.
Karma.
They filed for bankruptcy, the legal way to discharge their debt. If Mark and Sherri really were "good" Christians, wouldn't they have felt some guilt, some remorse, for the damage that they were causing to their creditors? Did they? Apparently not, since they appear to have hidden assets and went on a spending spree immediately after the bankruptcy was discharged. Not only that, but they came onto this site and arrogantly crowed about Sherri's new Harley.
And, it isn't as if Mark has a sterling record. As has previously been pointed out, Mark was sanctioned by Oregon in 2011. The Oregon Department of Consumer and Business Services, Insurance Division, made a sanctioning decision and the actual decision document reads, in part, the following:
"The director proposed to take that action because the director had reason to believe that the party violated (1) Oregon Administrative Rules (OAR) 836-080-0090 in three instances by recommending that a person who resided in Oregon purchase an annuity that was unsuitable for the person, (2) ORS 746.100 in two instances by making a false or fraudulent statement or representation on or relative to an application for insurance, and (3) ORS 731.296 in three instances by failing to promptly or truthfully respond to an inquiry from the director.
On 7/21/10, the director received from the party a written request for a hearing.
On 8/3/10, the director referred the request to the Office of Administrative Hearings (OAH) to schedule and conduct a hearing. OAH conducted a hearing on 1/25/11, 1/26/11, 2/16/11, 2/18/11, and 3/30/11.
On 6/28/11, OAH issued a proposed order concluding that the party engaged in most of the misconduct described in the notice of proposed action, and recommending that the director revoke the party’s license which had expired on 5/31/11."
My buddy that's a trustee said when a case gets reopen they go through everything with a fine tooth comb, they more likey will call other party's to help with the search, 99.9% of the time it's not good for the party or should I say Mark and Sherri. Me thinks there both up the creek without a paddle.
Karma.
They filed for bankruptcy, the legal way to discharge their debt. If Mark and Sherri really were "good" Christians, wouldn't they have felt some guilt, some remorse, for the damage that they were causing to their creditors? Did they? Apparently not, since they appear to have hidden assets and went on a spending spree immediately after the bankruptcy was discharged. Not only that, but they came onto this site and arrogantly crowed about Sherri's new Harley.
And, it isn't as if Mark has a sterling record. As has previously been pointed out, Mark was sanctioned by Oregon in 2011. The Oregon Department of Consumer and Business Services, Insurance Division, made a sanctioning decision and the actual decision document reads, in part, the following:
"The director proposed to take that action because the director had reason to believe that the party violated (1) Oregon Administrative Rules (OAR) 836-080-0090 in three instances by recommending that a person who resided in Oregon purchase an annuity that was unsuitable for the person, (2) ORS 746.100 in two instances by making a false or fraudulent statement or representation on or relative to an application for insurance, and (3) ORS 731.296 in three instances by failing to promptly or truthfully respond to an inquiry from the director.
On 7/21/10, the director received from the party a written request for a hearing.
On 8/3/10, the director referred the request to the Office of Administrative Hearings (OAH) to schedule and conduct a hearing. OAH conducted a hearing on 1/25/11, 1/26/11, 2/16/11, 2/18/11, and 3/30/11.
On 6/28/11, OAH issued a proposed order concluding that the party engaged in most of the misconduct described in the notice of proposed action, and recommending that the director revoke the party’s license which had expired on 5/31/11."
Karma.
His insurance hustle schemes actually go back a good bit further. All the way back in 2001 he was caught falsifying a customer's height (added 1") and weight (subtracted 108 lbs) on their application for short-term convalescent care insurance. Cost him a $500 penalty plus a three month suspension of his Oregon non-resident insurance agent license that time. http://www.cbs.state.or.us/ins/admin_actions/actions_2003/producer_2003/02-09-007.pdf
Quote
Violation of ORS 746.100 Claiborne violated ORS 746.100 by engaging in the following conduct. On or about 5/24/01, Claiborne solicited and completed an application from Orlander L. Jenkins (Jenkins) of La Grande, Oregon, for short-termconvalescent care insurance to be provided by Bankers Life and Casualty Company (BLCC). At the time, Jenkins’ height was 5’ 11’’ and his weight was 320 pounds. Claiborne recorded on the application that Jenkins’ height was 6’ 0’’ and his weight was 212 pounds. Claiborne sent the application to BLCC. BLCC issued the policy applied for by Jenkins based on the information in the application. However, if BLCC had known Jenkins’ correct height and weight, BLCC would not have issued the policy.
Their conscious should have told them not to [bleep] people over.
What conscious either of them don't have one. I would be embarrassed if I had file for bankruptcy, I sure would be bragging about it and sure would b making large purchases afterwards. They got there selves into a pickle now. Always said the way Mark was buying guns on here without using a FFL to receive the gun for him was nuts and he was begging to get caught.
Damn, you mean I may have to turn over the Uber-Lanche with winch.
I'm gonna be pizzed, that winch has helped me more than once when I was stuck 3/4's of a mile in a plowed field and I had enough cable to reach a tree on the other side of the county.
I also want to know who to get in touch with there to send a photo or two of my wife. She has - seriously- swimsuit model great looks and body, and uses and carries Kel Tech stuff now. Has carried S&W, Colt, Kahr etc. You guys need her very thin hot self to be shown holding some KT goodies with an add title of "Beauty is as Beauty does" or similar.
I've seen some ridiculous stuff on the Campfire, but this collection of Safariman and Larry Root interactions is at the top of the heap! A more troubled pair of oddballs would be hard to find. Gotta love the internet!
And ol' Mark's wife looks pretty good! Yet another totally incomprehensible angle to the saga.
I also want to know who to get in touch with there to send a photo or two of my wife. She has - seriously- swimsuit model great looks and body, and uses and carries Kel Tech stuff now. Has carried S&W, Colt, Kahr etc. You guys need her very thin hot self to be shown holding some KT goodies with an add title of "Beauty is as Beauty does" or similar.
what a comment.
Guess he was hop kel-tec was going for a Martin archery angle
I wonder if all of the guys who were defending Mark in that post feel the same way today.
I foolishly defended him back then. I'll make my public apology to Yalie right now. I'm sorry sir and I'm sorry it took so long to realize the truth and to apologize to you.
Oh, I see so much 'potential' for sick humor with all the impressive info on that link I can hardly refrain.
I mean the opportunities for Uncle Chester.....I mean Reverend Mark.....errrrr.....Mr Haney..or whatever his name is today. I would love for my Chil(how I heard it pronounced all the time at Ferguson, MO demonstrations) to learn about JESUS, buying insurance/investments for their senile grandma, honesty, integrity, internet selling and soooo many other good Christian schoolin topics.
Sure hope I don't offend him or that lil cupcake and he drives to SD with his great internet bud 'Larry/douchebag whatever and I become another 'casualty' of the Uberlanche and then he steps out and excersis' that good cheap kidney on whats left of me!!
I thought he was going to "step back" and regroup his past shananigan's, lies, stealing etc and turn over a new leaf? Medication must have erased that BS from the pricks mind too eh???? If there were ever a person who deserved everything bad that has and could/will happen they get my vote!!!!! Wanna PUKE!!!!
Bankruptcy fraud is a federal offense. If the court should decide that along with financial restitution to also pursue criminal charges he/she could be facing a felony.
Bankruptcy fraud, a felony, carries a sentence of a fine of up to $250,000 and/or five years in prison. Defendants will be booked according to standard criminal procedure and will have the opportunity to retain a criminal law attorney.
As well as possible loss of certain rights and privledges if convicted.
. . . He's seriously pimping his wife in that thread.
geez.....
Chad,
I also want to know who to get in touch with there to send a photo or two of my wife. She has - seriously- swimsuit model great looks and body, and uses and carries Kel Tech stuff now. Has carried S&W, Colt, Kahr etc. You guys need her very thin hot self to be shown holding some KT goodies with an add title of "Beauty is as Beauty does" or similar.
. . . He's seriously pimping his wife in that thread.
geez.....
Chad,
I also want to know who to get in touch with there to send a photo or two of my wife. She has - seriously- swimsuit model great looks and body, and uses and carries Kel Tech stuff now. Has carried S&W, Colt, Kahr etc. You guys need her very thin hot self to be shown holding some KT goodies with an add title of "Beauty is as Beauty does" or similar.
. . . He's seriously pimping his wife in that thread.
geez.....
Chad,
I also want to know who to get in touch with there to send a photo or two of my wife. She has - seriously- swimsuit model great looks and body, and uses and carries Kel Tech stuff now. Has carried S&W, Colt, Kahr etc. You guys need her very thin hot self to be shown holding some KT goodies with an add title of "Beauty is as Beauty does" or similar.
![[Linked Image]](http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a7/safariman416/Owensrefurbed20gaplusmoreMauser7mm020.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a7/safariman416/Owensrefurbed20gaplusmoreMauser7mm011.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a7/safariman416/Mausercustomrifle7mm007.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a7/safariman416/Mausercustomrifle7mm005.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a7/safariman416/Mausercustomrifle7mm004.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a7/safariman416/Mausercustomrifle7mm003.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/FOsteology/GIF/Popcorn-02-Stephen-Colbert.gif)
![[Linked Image]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/FOsteology/GIF/freeze-bitch.gif)
![[Linked Image]](http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120229032358/disney/images/c/c6/Pinocchio_KH3D.png)
![[Linked Image]](http://mrbadak.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/ass-hole.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://www.cipywnyk.net/mtblog/images/f69229401747_1135C/manning_park_black_bear_2_20140514_thumb.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/FOsteology/wdefghj_zps6bbd2a31.gif)
![[Linked Image]](http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/jrobb400/E45988E0-0ACA-4544-87FB-AEED57718B17-614-000001415512A1E6_zpsc00e86b2.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/joan4321/media/the_wood_shed_logo_zpsbwu8vxxo.png.html){kind=logo}
![[Linked Image]](http://jrjp.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/pow.gif)
![[Linked Image]](http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/125/f/7/ka_pow_by_wyatta-d3fmzwr.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://www.clipartbest.com/cliparts/di8/5AL/di85ALALT.jpeg)
I like the part where he states he is leaving for awhile.Does that mean you had your ass whooped 
![[Linked Image]](https://sites.tufts.edu/emotiononthebrain/files/2014/12/1394659442000-IA01-MELTDOWN-SWAGGART-07.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://s1197.photobucket.com/user/vette205/media/Knives%20and%20guns/knives.jpg.html)
![[Linked Image]](http://i.giphy.com/cN34n6Ka8GrcY.gif)
![[Linked Image]](http://advocacy.britannica.com/blog/advocacy/wp-content/uploads/hyena.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://s133.photobucket.com/user/FishinHank/media/lift-off_c_2065603_zpswespoexw.jpg.html)
![[Linked Image]](http://s172.photobucket.com/user/HughJassell/media/lwb6w_zps8ejy6hob.jpg.html)
![[Linked Image]](http://s108.photobucket.com/user/jlcpls/media/edna.jpg.html)
![[Linked Image]](http://s8.photobucket.com/user/safariman416/media/StuffforsaleinclAvalancheplusduckpics020.jpg.html)
![[Linked Image]](http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/gordonsorensen/MacArthur/MacwithFrankPristJr.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://smg.photobucket.com/user/partsman/media/ZZZZ/CanCun2008004%201_zpsmimvnh5q.jpg.html)
![[Linked Image]](http://smg.photobucket.com/user/partsman/media/ZZZZ/CanCun2008085_zpsayli085b.jpg.html)
![[Linked Image]](http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/nuclear-mushroom-cloud-5.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/FOsteology/GIF/popcorngazelle.gif)
![[Linked Image]](http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a7/safariman416/newPuppycatandTatoos031.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a7/safariman416/newPuppycatandTatoos021.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a7/safariman416/newPuppycatandTatoos024.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a7/safariman416/newPuppycatandTatoos026.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a7/safariman416/newPuppycatandTatoos019.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a7/safariman416/CanCun2008080.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/48/ff/83/48ff83ebf6a9aa29c28559f916b6bb3d.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://www.fimho.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Charles-Manson-Tattoo.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://www.gifwave.com/media/22029_swag-snl-mic-drop-barack-obama-jay-pharoah.gif)
![[Linked Image]](http://s1243.photobucket.com/user/elkhunterinnm/media/Mobile%20Uploads/blah-blah_1995.gif.html)
![[Linked Image]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/FOsteology/GIF/middlefinger.gif)
![[Linked Image]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/FOsteology/GIF/troll.gif)
![[Linked Image]](http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a7/safariman416/Model1890RigbyMilootherpetsguns4sale146.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a7/safariman416/Model1890RigbyMilootherpetsguns4sale149.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article5801173.ece/ALTERNATES/s1227b/T-rex-in-London.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://s273.photobucket.com/user/deflave25_2008/media/Screen%20Shot%202015-06-03%20at%201.07.39%20PM_zpsfixwpjiu.png.html)
![[Linked Image]](http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/joan4321/media/Buffoon/sfmn_zpskp2k4fxv.jpg.html)
![[Linked Image]](http://s1243.photobucket.com/user/elkhunterinnm/media/FD20D31C-5CED-461E-8BB9-1FE4C5FFC526-2293-000002539FFB24F6_zps6e0f7e50.jpg.html)
![[Linked Image]](http://s1243.photobucket.com/user/elkhunterinnm/media/IMG_0559.jpg.html)
![[Linked Image]](http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/pefuehrer13/media/image.jpg1_zpspq865nup.jpg.html)
![[Linked Image]](http://www.disabledworkerlaw.com/files/2014/12/bankruptcy-image.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://s1243.photobucket.com/user/elkhunterinnm/media/IMG_0565.jpg.html)
![[Linked Image]](http://s1243.photobucket.com/user/elkhunterinnm/media/IMG_0564.jpg.html)
![[Linked Image]](http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c11/drumdaddy/B5203CA6-D190-4B52-B8B7-6906E20F9083_zpsxljfm0hk.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/joan4321/media/Buffoon/Screen%20shot%202015-06-05%20at%208.57.02%20PM_zpsb1t8lpjp.png.html)
![[Linked Image]](http://www.sabinabecker.com/media/religion-penis-maggie-smith1.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/joan4321/media/Buffoon/shirt1_zpsht4dhylj.jpg.html)
![[Linked Image]](http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/joan4321/media/Buffoon/Screen%20shot%202015-06-27%20at%205.23.26%20AM_zpsog6qwxmo.png.html)
![[Linked Image]](http://s141.photobucket.com/user/sbark1/media/guns%20for%20sale%206-15%20007_zps2ecwcmhk.jpg.html)
![[Linked Image]](http://s1186.photobucket.com/user/rocketcity1/media/tororeelmower18/No-8varmint.gif.html)
![[Linked Image]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/FOsteology/GIF/34897022jerkoff.gif)
![[Linked Image]](http://s400.photobucket.com/user/skane_image/media/Awesomeman/avalanche1_zpsrdi7cesj.jpg.html)
![[Linked Image]](http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/joan4321/media/Buffoon/Screen%20shot%202015-08-08%20at%207.08.38%20AM_zpsam4fmtag.png.html)
![[Linked Image]]( http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n23/jlcpls/11913248_806091862837224_1249086968569968091_n.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://www.thektog.org/forum/customavatars/avatar99061_1.gif){kind=avatar}
Chad,