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Pete E, Conversely, I very much doubt the Deputies went out with intention of killing a rancher either.. Never the less the rancher is DEAD ! They wanted to be in control more than they wanted to solve a problem.
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"What happened next is still under investigation, but Zollman said there was an altercation and Yantis and both deputies all fired their weapons.
Yantis was fatally wounded and died at the scene. One of the deputies suffered a minor injury."
Appears that he fired his rifle and both deputies fired their weapons. One of the interviews with family says they think the rifle fired when the police were turning him around. Playing the guessing game...maybe it's an AD(?)...but if an officer is wound up tight as a drum already...and they've already had an altercation, an unintentional AD may not seem unintentional.
Ugly situation that has no option for a happy ending....
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Actually, probably not too far fetched, but I'll bet booze is involved. I'd not be surprised either. We'll hopefully know more about the BAC and UA of the deputies once the investigation is complete.
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Yeah, because the deputies have OWI/DUI/DUII (whatever you want to call it) conviction(s).
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"What happened next is still under investigation, but Zollman said there was an altercation and Yantis and both deputies all fired their weapons.
Yantis was fatally wounded and died at the scene. One of the deputies suffered a minor injury."
Does anyone know the how/when/why/extent of the deputy's minor injury? If we're throwing out guesses it could be a big part of the guessing game....
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Ranchers tend to have big egos.
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Since we have two cop members [at least] offering to bet that Mr Yantis was drunk or drinking, and that was his contribution to his killing, I'll suggest that it was a Deputy's ego, not fear for his life, that was his contribution.
Mrs.Yantis will get a sizable settlement from the County just for her injuries.
If the Family's account of Mr Yantis never pointing his rifle at the Deputies would not stand up to scrutiny, their Lawyer would not have let them include it in their statement, which could affect settlement negotiations.
If you can't put your trust in a Lawyer's greed, where can you put it?
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Ranchers tend to have big egos. I know a few dozen and only 1 or 2 qualify as having big egos. At least from my point of view. Of course Montanans on average are pretty laid back regardless. Imagine Idaho would be similar.
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You, RWE and Stuart can continue making this thread about yourselves and your own drama if you want to, but it's not about your idea of manners or Stuart trying to pick fights, which is his normal mode. It's about a guy being shot to death for apparently no good reason and the decline of a lot of our institutions here in the USA. Actually fellow, the whole thing is about halfwits jumping to conclusions with not a single solitary piece of evidence other than hearsay. But you go right ahead and spruik to all and sundry. added; And that goes for those on both sides of the argument. There's no hearsay. Hearsay only has meaning in a courtroom, and refers to statements testified to that were made by people who are not on the witness stand, offered for their truth value.
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A busted up bull ain't worth saving.
I don't care how much he was worth, the rancher was more worried about putting him out of his misery than any fuuckin' lost burger.
You don't walk up to a deal like that and see a destroyed car and people hurt and start worrying about the monetary value of a bull. Spot on...the rancher didn't get the love and respect the community has for him by being an inhumane, heartless, money grubbing prick.....Period ETA....it wouldn't surprise me one bit if he was pissed after seeing the "heartless, inhumane" way the boys in blue filled the poor creature with lead....realized they weren't up for the task....and walked off leaving it to suffer though......
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Charlie, just a sad deal all the way around.
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Yeah, because the deputies have OWI/DUI/DUII (whatever you want to call it) conviction(s). This wasn't a dui stop. This was a murder. Try and stay on task. Are you suggesting that Jack was drunk?
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Charlie, just a sad deal all the way around. Yea buddy.....didn't have to happen.
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Harsh lesson and reminder to be careful. Never expect common sense from someone you don't know.
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The miss trust and hatred that this shooting will cause is going to last generations, no matter the findings the deputies families will have to move, and the sheriffs office will be the target of ridicule and scorn. And worst of all is a family has lost a husband, father and a grandfather at a very young age.
These are things money can not fix.
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A busted up bull ain't worth saving.
I don't care how much he was worth, the rancher was more worried about putting him out of his misery than any fuuckin' lost burger.
You don't walk up to a deal like that and see a destroyed car and people hurt and start worrying about the monetary value of a bull. Spot on...the rancher didn't get the love and respect the community has for him by being an inhumane, heartless, money grubbing prick.....Period ETA....it wouldn't surprise me one bit if he was pissed after seeing the "heartless, inhumane" way the boys in blue filled the poor creature with lead....realized they weren't up for the task....and walked off leaving it to suffer though...... Amen! How the [bleep] they could be so heartless and inhumane to a cow whilst people are fighting for their life, trapped in a car is beyond me.
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It certainly makes one wonder how safe you are, when in the company of law enforcement.
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