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What are the options...if any.. on a lightweight .300 that has low recoil? Is there such a thing? I just about bought a tikka t3 light but a friend has one and says it kicks like mule. Im starting to enjoy the lighter carrying rifles. Wondering if you fellas had any thoughts?
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Physics is physics. 300mags produce a lot of recoil. Heavier rifles absorb the recoil, lighter rifles don't. Muzzle brakes substantially reduce recoil, but the trade-off is a big increase in blast.
You can shoot from the bench in a Lead Sled, and probably won't notice the recoil in a hunting situation. However, I like to practice with rifles I hunt with and I find I don't shoot my heavier recoiling rifles nearly as much.
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The 300 Blackout is pretty mild too.
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Physics is physics. 300mags produce a lot of recoil. Heavier rifles absorb the recoil, lighter rifles don't. Muzzle brakes substantially reduce recoil, but the trade-off is a big increase in blast.
You can shoot from the bench in a Lead Sled, and probably won't notice the recoil in a hunting situation. However, I like to practice with rifles I hunt with and I find I don't shoot my heavier recoiling rifles nearly as much. More precisely they reduce the recoil velocity.
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300 wsm...they are not bad at all in a rifle of moderate weight....you are burning 10-12 or more less gr. of powder than a 300 Win , which makes a difference
your mileage may differ , but I find the wissum somewhat more comfortable than a 7mm rem mag too
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What are the options...if any.. on a lightweight .300 that has low recoil? Is there such a thing? I just about bought a tikka t3 light but a friend has one and says it kicks like mule. Im starting to enjoy the lighter carrying rifles. Wondering if you fellas had any thoughts? ..............There is no point in getting a lighter weight rifle chambered in a 300 mag, then load it down (if you reload) to avoid more recoil in order to enjoy it. Then why own a 300 mag in the first place if you cannot enjoy the benefits of more power or velocity gains. You have a problem called laws of physics. You cannot have a lightweight rifle chambered in any 300 mag and expect lower recoil when using near max to max loadings. However, should you go with a light weight rifle chambered in a 300 mag, there are such things as slip on recoil pads, padded shooting vests and padded cheek pieces for the stock that do reduce felt recoil. Those may be the best way to have your cake and eating it too.
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What are the options...if any.. on a lightweight .300 that has low recoil? Is there such a thing? I just about bought a tikka t3 light but a friend has one and says it kicks like mule. Im starting to enjoy the lighter carrying rifles. Wondering if you fellas had any thoughts? ..............There is no point in getting a lighter weight rifle chambered in a 300 mag, then load it down (if you reload) to avoid more recoil in order to enjoy it. Then why own a 300 mag in the first place if you cannot enjoy the benefits of more power or velocity gains. You have a problem called laws of physics. You cannot have a lightweight rifle chambered in any 300 mag and expect lower recoil when using near max to max loadings. However, should you go with a light weight rifle chambered in a 300 mag, there are such things as slip on recoil pads, padded shooting vests and padded cheek pieces for the stock that do reduce felt recoil. Those may be the best way to have your cake and eating it too. pretty much what I was thinking too.
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You darn sure don't want a T3 in 300 if recoil bothers you. I have quite a few mag rifles, the T3 300WM being the lightest and it by far kicks worse than any rifle I own(including an 8lb 7STW). Not to mention the rounds in the mag get smashed tips and seated deeper with each shot if you don't put a heavy crimp on them.
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i have a 300 win mag in a model 70 with a brake on it and now its actually pretty pleasant in the recoil department about like a 270 win now. However the gun weighs slightly over 8 pounds but it works well.
I once bought a t3 in a 270 winchester and with 150 grain handloads it recoiled pretty bad in a 300 it could be brutal.
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i have T3s in 22-250 and 25-06. I've owned - note the past tense - 300WMs in a couple of different, much heavier configurations. Every time I see a T3 in 300WM for sale in the classifieds, all I can think is OOF!!
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Physics is physics. 300mags produce a lot of recoil. Heavier rifles absorb the recoil, lighter rifles don't. Muzzle brakes substantially reduce recoil, but the trade-off is a big increase in blast.
You can shoot from the bench in a Lead Sled, and probably won't notice the recoil in a hunting situation. However, I like to practice with rifles I hunt with and I find I don't shoot my heavier recoiling rifles nearly as much. More precisely they reduce the recoil velocity. Hear, hear. And, BTW, "Physics ARE Physics." If you get to be a science Nazi, I get to be an English Nazi.  Sorry, Tatelaw, I couldn't help it.
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I have a T3 in 300 WSM, the only important thing I did was change the factory recoil pad. Limbsaver and Kick-Eez are just two of the companies that sell pre-fit recoil pads for the T3 Lite, highly recommend the Kick-Eez.
Twenty to thirty rounds from the bench isn't conducive to fun, but after working up my load the only time I shoot from the bench is to verify scope setting.
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The difference in 300 WSM compared to 300 WM is real. You get about 50-75 fps less speed about (2-3%) coupled with about 10-12 gr less powder means less recoil. If you run the numbers through a recoil calculator program it falls almost half way between 30-06 and 300 WM with the same bullet weights. The difference between 30-06 and 300 WSM is about 3 ft lbs of recoil. The 300 WM is another 3 ft lbs of recoil. I don't notice the additional 3 ft lbs recoil shooting 300 WSM. While I can tolerate 300 WM recoil, I do notice the 6 ft lbs. difference. Twenty to thirty rounds from the bench isn't conducive to fun, Neither is 30 rounds of 30-06.
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Don't discount stock design. My 30-06 Forbes is surprisingly gentle given its weight.
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I use to have a light weight 300 it got replaced with a light weight 30-06, which shoots 165 gr @ 3000 and 180s @ 2800. I shoot the front half of 1200 yards so I don't see much of an advantage. You should buy a light weight 340 wby.
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I know a gunsmith who significantly lightened a 460 Wby. for an insistent client. I believe it was fired one time resulting in a busted knuckle and a broken nose.
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