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A NATO ally has been attacked by a self declared state. Does that not REQUIRE all NATO countries to come to France's aid?



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I thought it did.


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France has to ask. They haven't yet

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France is not a NATO member. They withdraw under de Gaulle completely by 1966.



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ISIS, despite their pretensions, is not a State. I'm pretty sure that if France thought they had a reason to demand NATO participation, they would have already called for it.

I believe France rejoined NATO in 2009

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Originally Posted by hatari
France is not a NATO member. They withdraw under de Gaulle completely by 1966.



France is a NATO member!


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the truth is we've elected a President, twice, that doesn't care if the muslims take over the world.

that's the truth. now, what are you going to do about it?


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I suspect that if France really wanted to let loose the chiens de guerre they could handily kick the crap out of any Muslim country in the Middle East all by their lonesomes.

Despite the stereotype of being surrender monkeys they actually have a fairly formidable military. The Foreign Legion is a highly trained strike force of paratroopers that could hit pretty much whatever target in that area they wanted. They would have the added advantage of a very short supply line across the Mediterranean.


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Originally Posted by Gus
the truth is we've elected a President, twice, that doesn't care if the muslims take over the world.

that's the truth. now, what are you going to do about it?
You may have elected him but I didn't. What I believe appropriate for those who did will go unnamed.


We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?

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I think France would have to invoke article 5 but its within the treaty terms.


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Originally Posted by Gus
the truth is we've elected a President, twice, that doesn't care if the muslims take over the world.

that's the truth. now, what are you going to do about it?
He is not my President and never will be. I held my nose and voted for two stupid jackasses in the last two elections, but they were at least qualified to be President, which I do not believe Obama is-thus he is not President. IMO he is a Muslim and he wants the Muslims to take over. This is much worse than just not caring. He is a traitorous scumsuckingpig.

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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
He is not my President and never will be. I held my nose and voted for two stupid jackasses in the last two elections, but they were at least qualified to be President, which I do not believe Obama is-thus he is not President. IMO he is a Muslim and he wants the Muslims to take over. This is much worse than just not caring. He is a traitorous scumsuckingpig.


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They would have the added advantage of a very short supply line across the Mediterranean.


Too bad we didn't have that 'advantage' (Italy to Libya) when Benghazi was under attack frown


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Originally Posted by RickyD
Originally Posted by Gus
the truth is we've elected a President, twice, that doesn't care if the muslims take over the world.

that's the truth. now, what are you going to do about it?
You may have elected him but I didn't. What I believe appropriate for those who did will go unnamed.


Yep.


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Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho
I suspect that if France really wanted to let loose the chiens de guerre they could handily kick the crap out of any Muslim country in the Middle East all by their lonesomes.

Despite the stereotype of being surrender monkeys they actually have a fairly formidable military. The Foreign Legion is a highly trained strike force of paratroopers that could hit pretty much whatever target in that area they wanted. They would have the added advantage of a very short supply line across the Mediterranean.


I hope the Legion does get involved..They also have bases in the Horn of Africa that would give them good access to other terrorist areas of the ME...

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Originally Posted by hatari
France is not a NATO member. They withdraw under de Gaulle completely by 1966.



Seems they returned in 2009? Missed that one!


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Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho
I suspect that if France really wanted to let loose the chiens de guerre they could handily kick the crap out of any Muslim country in the Middle East all by their lonesomes.

Despite the stereotype of being surrender monkeys they actually have a fairly formidable military. The Foreign Legion is a highly trained strike force of paratroopers that could hit pretty much whatever target in that area they wanted. They would have the added advantage of a very short supply line across the Mediterranean.


I have no doubt, they have a small but well equipped and trained military these days (they finally learned that quality is better than quantity). They would kick ISIS to kingdom come.

But unless there's an after plan, we'll all be back there in under 5 years.

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I think the after plan should be modeled after the Roman sacking of Judea. They knew how to deal with middle east death cults.


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