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Oh, I see! so you think Cruz is the establishment choice? You haven't been paying very close attention then. Do you honestly think that the GOP wants Cruz to be their pick after he publicly call the leadership liars on the floor of the senate? Wake up, man! They hate Cruz's guts.

Fluoride...

So Trump is supposed to have some special deal? A free ride?

The Establishment is going to fight for their candidates. The Conservatives and Tea Party people will fight for their warriors. That is the way the game is played. Called politics. It does get down and dirty on both sides. Big money outspends little money.

We have to beat them at their own game and the THREAT of a strong third party is one of our best weapons. IF they believe the threat could turn real. That is why the GOP never worried about Ron Paul.

Trump will use this as a negotiating tool to have his way with the GOP. Good for him.
But he needs a thicker tougher skin. And he needs to stop giving them ammo like this to shot him with.
"I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down. And I watched in Jersey City, New Jersey, where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. Thousands of people were cheering," Trump said.

lol

GOP went along expecting Trump to tank after a short period. Trump didn't tank, so the GOP is going to try playing dirty.

That won't sit well with Trump.

It's hilarious. He's teflon. The harder the media and the Republicans try to kill him, the higher he goes in the polls and the more popular he gets.

The dummies in the Republican Party don't get it. They don't want to give the people the candidate they want. It's another "FU" to the people,you take what we give you so we can stay in power.

They suck. I'm as sick of them as I am of the democrats.

The “deal” Trump is likely referring to is his agreement in September to sign a pledge not to run as an independent. He said at the time he was given the “assurance that I would be treated fairly” by RNC chairman Reince Priebus in return for signing the pledge.

The Wall Street Journal article referenced by Trump is titled “GOP Operative Plans ‘Guerrilla Campaign’ Against Donald Trump.”

“In the absence of our efforts, Trump is exceedingly unlikely to implode or be forced out of the race,” a memo from the Trump Card LLC states. “The stark reality is that unless something dramatic and unconventional is done, Trump will be the Republican nominee and Hillary Clinton will become president.”

http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/23/trump-fires-warning-shot-at-rnc-that-wasnt-the-deal/

This thread reminds me of what they say about terrorists... "Most Muslims are not terrorists, but most terrorists are Muslims.".

Most Trump fans are not loons, but most loons are Trump fans.

The Trumpnado rolls on!

Laura Ingram said this morning--
Why doesn't the GOP fight against Obama and Hillary as hard as they do against Trump?

The GOP will spend more money and energy getting rid of Trump than they will trying to get the nominee elected. The RNC cabal needs to get rid of Trump before states start electing their national delegates next spring. If they orchestrate a "coup" type maneuver, look for the GOP to be relegated to the Whig Party.

There you have it in black and white: the neo-Marxist underpinnings of Trumpkin political support revealing itself. Since when was conservatism and liberty ever suspicious of free markets, of corporations, of the rich? Edwards, your rhetoric is Marxist to the core. The hysterical irony of it all of course is that Trump is the quintessential rich insider famous for gaming the very market which he plans as president
to rig even further. It is the height of ignorance to claim that someone hip-deep in chrony capitalism and who has made billions will suddenly turn on all his political alliances and "end" chrony capitalism. Trump is the ultimate corporate chrony capitalist.

https://pjmedia.com/blog/donald-trump-crony-capitalist/1

GMAFB Rob. I mean really? You think that predetermined candidates chosen by a select few versus the people choosing their candidate is closer to your "free market capitalism" non Marxist utopia?

The founding fathers would flog you. So anyone that supports a non politician like Trump is a nazi Marxist?

Have you not figured out that Jordan is a f a g?




Clark

Quit crying about Cruz and buy a fugking t-shirt already.




Travis

That's rich coming from a defender of sodomite marriage who has a history on this forum of begging other members to "suck [his] cock". Talk about pot calling the kettle black!

Aces: Just who are the pre-determined candidates? Does the fact that Bill and Hillary encouraged Trump to run not suggest that perhaps he is a "pre-determined" candidate, their "stalking horse"? I swear, for an ostensible conservative forum, there are an awful lot of folks here who hate the Republican party far, far more than the Demonrat party. If Trump continues on his present path, he will hand this election to Hillary because morons of the ilk who inhabit this board (not all---but many) will fail to see that he cannot beat Hillary in the general election.

BTW, "Nazi-Marxist" is an oxymoron. Try "neo-Marxist" next time and are you really that ignorant of the affinity between populism and Marxism?


Jordan

https://drhurd.com/donald-trump-a-different-kind-of-socialist/

DONALD TRUMP: A DIFFERENT KIND OF SOCIALIST

There’s danger ahead. And its name is Donald Trump.

In recent interviews, Trump has been claiming that there are two things wrong with government policy. The first, he says, is that the stimulus bill should have been used for roads, rather than “pork.” Apparently trillions of dollars in unsustainable debt and devaluation of the currency are acceptable when spent on roads, but not when it’s spent on anything else. The second is that businesses should be restricted or outright forbidden from doing business with China, Mexico, or other foreign nations. This, he says, will “keep jobs in America.” Ridiculous!

Businesses hire Chinese or other foreign workers because it’s cheaper. If they are no longer allowed to do business with foreign companies, then the jobs previously done by them will simply go away. Businesses owe it to their stockholders to make a profit. If that profit is restricted or eliminated by protectionist Big Government policies, then there will be fewer jobs. Slapping foreign trade restrictions on business is no different than taxing them or forcing them to pay for expensive health insurance plans. The expenses and losses created by government restrictions undermine profit, and in the process drive up unemployment — further deepening the recession.

Normally these facts are evaded by people who know nothing about business, like Democrats, liberals and socialists. Now we have someone who is successful at business (and supposedly a Republican) making the same kind of mistake. Trump may run for president as a Republican. If he got the nomination, he would be no more a friend of capitalism than Barack Obama. It would be a matter of ‘choose your poison.’ If Trump runs as an Independent, he’ll kill any chance of a Republican winning the presidency, even a good candidate, and Obama’s clearly socialist agenda will be around for another six years. Trump’s ideology of protectionism refers to government restrictions on business with foreign nations, on the premise that trade should exclusively take place within a country. Protectionism violates the moral and Constitutional right of individuals to freedom of trade, and it makes the world poorer than it otherwise would be.

The worst of the danger is not Trump himself. Hopefully, he’ll go away or simply shut up. But the false “appeal” of protectionism may grow as economic conditions continue to worsen under Obama’s disastrous policies and the Republicans’ inability to quickly reverse any or all of them. This variation of Big Government socialism is something even Bill Clinton was smart enough to oppose—but today’s Obama Democrats will blindly support it. “Sure, we’ll use government to block and restrict trade with China and other countries outside the U.S. But first give us socialized medicine, control over banking, control over the Internet — and then we’ll talk.” This is the kind of governing coalition you could expect if Trump became president, and Congress continued expanding the welfare state as it has done for the last hundred years.

Free market Republicans and Tea Party types are our last hope. If they mean it when they say that government should get out of the way of business, then they will fight protectionism as much as they fight ObamaCare and other socialist disasters. But Obama has already done his damage to our country, and the full effects are yet to be felt. People are going to become more fearful and angry as the economy worsens. If you think we have trouble now, think of what happens when Big Government gets even bigger and essentially shuts down international trade.

I recognize that China is a deeply corrupt government with no respect for individual rights. But shutting down trade will do nothing for individual rights. It will impoverish the United States and lead to even higher unemployment. Historically, protectionism usually leads to war. Government has to get out of the economy altogether and not continue to intensify its already massive role.

Mr. Trump: Mind your own business and please shut up.


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Do you people even read these links? This is the biggest fluff piece of nothing I've seen this week. It has absolutely ZERO substance and is driven by a headline that is not supported by the text. Of course Trump has opponents in the GOP - they are running AGAINST each other! Cruz, Rubio, Carson, Carly, Jeb, etc. ALL have backers that are going to attack the frontrunner. This is called politics.

(This is called nonsense)

Does this mean we are no longer friends Robjordon? I just don't think I could bear it if we were no longer friends.

That explains a lot. I didn't know Rob was but I knew his boyfriend was.