Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Rimfires Is everyone else here seeing a nice influx of good quality 22ammo and normal prices again?

IT seems that in these parts, 22RF of both the LR and the WMR varieties is now readily available again. The local Cascade store has had some REM 'bucket of bullets' 1600+ rounds of HP come in, several 525 packs of 22LR Golden Bullet HP, and I have been buying my one pack a day allotment of CC Mini mag HP 22LR ammo for several days in a row lately.

Also, I am seeing quite a bit of CCI 22WMR ammo out and around.

This is a great sign that the ammo companies are beginning to be able to meet demand, but I sure hope that my brothers and sisters here at 24hrcf are seeing this as well.

How are things in your part of the world? Able to find and buy plated, high velocity HP 22LR and or Magnum again?

Not much reasonably priced rimfire ammo in Omaha. Cabela's has a lot of Norma Match-22, $88 for 500, and Tac-22, $65 for 500. Availability at every other retail outlet is, no pun intended, pretty much hit or miss.

I live in the Puget Sound area of Washington State, north of Seattle.
In my local stores, I can now walk in and reasonably expect to see "some" store-stock, and 1/2 of it reasonably priced.

Let's hope this is the starting road back to something sane.

No.

Agreed. Maybe what I am seeing is regional since you and I live in the PNW, near the CCI plant.

I have been told that CCI makes the brass, or cases, for nearly all 22RF is made at the CCI plant. Not sure how accurate that is.

I can get all the Remington 22 LR I want, rather use Federal

Not much in NW Pa.

CCI and Rem golden bullet in stock at the LGS at norm prices.

Prices are close to normal but supply is very spotty. Walmart is a no-go. I never see any .22 ammo there. Academy shelves are empty, but the main stock clerk says that there is plenty in the back waiting to be put out for Black Friday.

I can find 22 lr target grade and a few other randoms, but the bulk ammo is still very limited in my area.

I am still waiting to see 17 HM2!

I gave up looking locally years ago, as the good quality stuff I prefer was either not even carried or priced out of reach. About a year ago I saw some Stingers on the shelf in my LGS and asked for a couple of boxes without asking the price. Turnd out they were $9.95. This shop isn't a gouger, so I expect they just passed on their increased cost.

Since my kids are grown, I don't need multiple bricks anymore, so I just buy decent stuff, from MiniMags on up, and I buy online.

TFF.

To the original question:

No.

Why they are found in some parts of the country and not in others seems beyond comprehension.

Paul

Not here

No

No, especially not the variety we used to see. I haven't seen the CCI SGB in years, which I miss because my favorite .22 puts them all in one hole and the flat point makes it especially deadly. some guy in Baltimore advertises it on GB, he must have bought it all when CCI stopped making it.

I keep hearing how the .17 HM2 is the best squirrel rifle ever made, but I haven't seen any ammo on line or off, so I've never had the chance to try it. HMR seems to be available, so I shoot that some.

Roll your own.


http://www.reedercustomguns.com/revolvers/flatnose.htm

Last week I was at Walmart looking at something else when I checked sporting goods (at 2 PM).
The clerk was stocking 100 packs of Remington "Golden" .22s.
I ask if they ever got CCI, and he pulled out 2 100 packs of Mini Mag solids. I got them for $7.29 each.

Paco Kelly also sells a FN tool. Easy to use.

I been doing this by using a Redding neck bushing

I am pretty near out of SGB, I will have to do that. But, at least the last batch of SGB I bought, was the most accurate stuff that old rifle ever saw.

...

I use Paco's tool. At first I used the Nastinose - a big honkin' HP maker - but now, all I use is the dish nose. It flattens the meplats and puts a shallow dish on the bullet.

In both pix, the original cartridge is in the middle, flanked by altered meplats.

The dish nose is shown in the picture on the left. In the picture on the right, you can see the Nastinose HP maker. It produces a large HP. The far right cartridge has had the dish nose formed with the original factory HP.

https://www.303british.com/id61.html

You can see what I got here. I passed no judgments, just asked for opinions. Dozens of people wrote and there were varied opinions on performance. The only thing I know is the accuracy did not suffer using the dish nose punch, fed normally but made bigger wounds.

I am happy to report that I have purchased 5,000 22LR in the past week.

Academy is selling 525 bulk packs of WW 22HP for $27.99. Limit 2 packs.

Between my wife and I, we got 6 bulk packs earlier this week in Houston...then snagged 4 more at an Academy in Austin today.

In all, I have added 8,000 rounds to the stash in the past month (WW, Federal and Remington).

I am feeling much better about my inventory now...heck, I might actually go out plinking with the rimfires for the first time in 5 or 6 years!

22 Mag is very tough here though. I had to search all over town to find some FMJ target ammo from S&B. And it was nearly $17/50!

Tim

I just came from a store called "The White Elephant" in Spokane and was able to grab FOUR boxes of Hornaday Critical Defense 45gr flex tip HP 22WMR ammo for only $13.50/box! I am pretty pleased with that find.

While I have been able to grab some types of 22WMR ammo, the excellent Critical Defense ammo has been a LONG time off of any shelves that I could locate, and it really does significantly outperform anything else in a 22WMR handgun.

Safariman
I'll make you a deal on some 22 ammo. $20/brick.







In the interest of full disclosure, bullets and powder are not included.

Safariman: Not here in western Montana - I see some "duds" like Remington SHORT hollow-points but they are VERY expensive and useless to me.
I also see some CCI shorts and foreign made 22 stuff but nothing priced fairly or usable to me.
I am seeing MORE of this "dud" stuff of late though, but again no help to me.
Its been 38 (thirty eight!) months now of this shortage/manufacturing conundrum!
In 38 (thirty eight!) months I have NOT seen ANY Winchester 40 grain Power-Point (hollow-points) on a stores shelves in the 7 (seven!) states I have traveled through during that time!
Lots of 17 HMR though where all I travel to of recent.
I am very happy for you and your Cascade store - YOU did not mention the prices you paid for the "buckets" and the "cartons" of Remington Golden bullets - I hope the prices YOU paid also made you happy.
Wishing things were different for the New Year.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Not a steady supply around here lately. Poor grade 22 lr and no 22 mag. I have been looking for Wolf match target at a reasonable price. I am still looking. Good shooting

Varmint Guy, we are in much the same boat as you.. The Wyo. stores don't off much more than what you have described.. Then at higher price than I will pay..

I have picked up several thousand rounds of Rem. HPLR, and WW HPLR ammo over the last year.. Despite what folks say, I have had good success with the Rem ammo.. It is NOT CCI, but I have killed many thousands of gophers with it.. If I could get CCI at a fair price, I would opt for it.. Most of my best buys however were on a trip in the upper mid west early last summer.. Haven't been out of the Wy/MtId area since that time.. I have found NO reasonable buys on ammo in this area..

Fortunately, I have enough for my needs, but right now there doesn't seem to be a chance to replace my supply as I shoot it up.. We have NEVER as far as I know had a good supply of WW Power Points.. I have a little stash of odds and ends ammo that I picked up for one reason or another.. Years ago I bought 2 bricks of Power Point.. Shot one away, but still have the other.. I would like a bit more, but it is rare stuff in this country..

WyoCoyoteHunter: I very well remember the somewhat rarity of Winchester Power-Points even prior to October 2,012 (when hussein obama was being re-elected or it was sure it was gonna happen) and THIS shortage started.
These wonderful 22 L.R. hollow-points have shot, at least, WELL in every Rifle and pistol I have ever shot them in!
Yeah they were kind of rare back then but I could find enough to keep my several higher quality rimfire Varmint Rifles and pistols shooting when I wanted.
Nowadays I never see them on store shelves (and I get into a LOT of stores!) but only see them at gunshows on occasion - and then they are priced to high or completely out of sight!
A year or two ago I saw some 37 grain Winchester Power-Points on a shelf but my best guns are sighted in with the 40 grainers.
Stay warm down Wyoming way.
Yesterday I helped some friends break tent camp and load Elk and it was 12 degrees below zero when we started and just 5 above when we finished.
Hope you find some Winnies soon.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Grafs has the lowest prices and best selection I have found.

Thanks, I might look them up. After this latest debacle, I am now going to be stocking up more than I have in the past.

Are you talking about your latest debacle or the ammo debacle?

Haha!

We are the cause of the .22 ammo shortage.

We can easily buy as much .22 ammo as we want. http://ammoseek.com/ammo/22lr

I'll bet most of us on this thread had plenty of .22 ammo before this even started, still have plenty, and will have plenty for the rest of our lives.

If we all stopped hoarding everything would be back to normal in a few weeks.

That's wonderful to hear.




Dave

Not seeing any increase in supply here, and don't even think about buying any .22 WMR. Can't find any.

I get my 22 from a distributor so I've not had much trouble. 22 Magnum on the shelf around here seems like a historical myth.

Buck_: You're dreaming!
I personally know the owners of MANY gunshops in 5 western states and they tell me, and have been telling me for some time, that the shipments in response to orders they make for 22 L.R. ammo is no where near what they received BEFORE October of 2,012!
And if you think 8 to 15 cents a round for 22 ammo PLUS the expensive shipping is "just ducky" - then YOU have another think needed!
I don't think this shortage is "just ducky" and I don't think this SHORTAGE that started INSTANTLY in October of 2,012 is/was caused by hoarding!
I will stop buying 22 L.R. hollow-point ammo WHEN I have a full lifetime supply no matter WHAT you are dreaming about.
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VarmintGuy

In Colorado I see 22LR fairly regularly but certainly not well stocked. I just paid $28.00 for a 500 brick.

They haven't ramped up 22 ammo production, yet everyone wants 30k in ammo in their possession. Pretty easy to figure out the problem.

I went to the local store the other day to see what's what on the black friday deals, and there was 22 ammo on the shelf. The dude working the counter automatically assumes I want some 22 ammo so starts putting the boxes on the counter. I told him I'm good on the ammo, but the other guys at the counter might want it instead. Funny thing is, they all said they were good to as they had about 30-35k each sitting at home. And that was like 3 or 4 guys.

30K is a bit extreme, I agree. And yes this is a big part of the problem.

I have about 2,000 rounds and am pretty happy with that. I only need to keep THAT many in reserve because I love blasting ground squirrels in the spring and early summer and that can eat up a bunch of .22 rounds.

Just glad to be seeing more and more on the shelves of late. I hope that you folks in other parts of the US start seeing it like I am or better. Brighter days are coming!

Oh, FWIW Freedom Munitions is selling CI brand 22LR, plated round nose, pretty cheap and NO LIMIT on how much one can buy. One of thier loadings is a 35gr bullet at 1500fps. Might be pretty deadly on small stuff.

Well, I hit Sportsmans in Kalispell, the only thing they had was Fed Auto Match --

for 50



$11.00 a box.

YGBSM.

I've got a few Winchester boxes of 222 rounds (22 lr plated HP)I can let members have for 12.50 plus actual shipping. It is starting to show up at Walmart locally in plentiful supply. I hope you all are finding what you need.

Shipping the Ammo....I bought a few bricks when I visited the East Coast. How can I get it back to the West Coast, and then how can I LEGALLY get it back to the West Coast?

I'm not paying $23 in HazMat to ship 525 rounds of .22 LR. I think Mom stuck a box in my UPS shipped Xmas gift. We will see if it shows up.

Ammo doesn't require a hazmat fee. Ship it UPS or Fedex ground.

The only thing I need are CCI quiets. I can't find them anywhere for a reasonable price.

Dink

SM's kind of deal. Usually screwing someone to his favor, but his kind of deal nonetheless.

We were seeing some around here, not a lot but usually a few boxes. More of the match than the cheaper stuff. Was at Cabelas today and none to be found.

Dink, I bought some Quiets some where in my travels last year they are the segmented ones.. I think I got them in Pa.

We came though central Wy. last week one store had lots of .22 ammo, but mostly the high priced match ammo.. Like $70/brick..

Yesterday I was down town at our little sporting goods store and they had CCI MINI MAG HOLLOW POINTS!!!! I couldn't believe it.. They only had a case and the 100 rd packs were $11.95!! I didn't buy any, but at least it is out there, but at almost $60.00/ brick pretty expensive..

30k, LOL you don't want to walk I'm my gun room then, it will make your eyes pop out if you think 30k is extreme. But in all fairNess I had this from many years ago like late 1990's and early 2000. Been buying cheap stuff for the youth shooting club I run. Have 508 boxes Federal Auto match for the club but I'm not sure if we are going to use it now with some squib loads we been getting. Bass Pro in Harrisburg had Federal Auto match yesterday for $19.99 a box and had alot of it with a 2 box limit per day

This will get things started again.

I have finally seen some 22 LR here in central and eastern Oregon (some Rem bulk boxes) priced about 2X the pre-crunch amount. Also a couple brands I've never heard of. None of the Win's or American Eagles though that my rifles are fond of, and essentially none in the mom n pop stores yet.

I have about 10K pre-cruch rds on hand and still have a sense of being short. A good day in the spring ground squirrel fields can consume 500rds, and I do things in single shot mode.

Historically, I've done 10 to 12,000 rds each spring, but not any more. Also, took the guns out of the safe and put that ammo in there.

There is no haz mat on ammo. If I die tomorrow there won't be a shortage of 22's in PA, my wife don't know what it's worth and will give it away.

500 rounds in a morning on a good day, invite me out I'll bring the ammo for us.

I officially declare the 22lr shortage over in Northern Ohio.
There was more rimfire ammo on the shelves at the shops I visited this morning than I have seen in a couple years.

Full shelves and stacks on the floor of CCI SV, mini-mag, Velocitor, Stinger, etc...
American Eagle, Winchester, Federal bulk packs
Good selection of higher end stuff as well.

Two shelves full of Remington 1400 round buckets $70.77 at Walmart.

Not here in Iowa.

I saw some .22lr CCI Stingers at a local Walmart this afternoon. They also had some .22 shorts. Was thinking the early morning crew of hoarders/gougers must be getting a little picky.

Scheels in billings generally has 100 rd packs and quite often 325 round boxes too
Rarely don't have any in stock.
The same can't be said for 22mag

Was just at Cabela's in Scarbrough, Maine...they had nothing. Stopped at Kittery Trading post and their rimfire shelf was full.

It was all Federal and CCI with a little Aguila. What I would still like to know is where is all the Remington and Winchetesr. Have only seen smattering here and there for the last two years.

Price:
CCI MiniMag solids: $29.95 for 300

Federal AutoMatch: (?) $19.95 for 325...

Don't remember the others...

Bob

Depressing. Minis for 10 cents a shot, and they aren't even HPs. Sheeeeeeeesh.

Remington are down here in PA, you can have that crap.

All: Just 2 days ago (12/23/2,015) went to a gun shop about 90 miles from my home and they had a pretty full shelf of C.C.I. 22 L.R. ammo!
It was NOT cheap!
$9.65 for a 100 pack of C.C.I. Mini-Mag hollow-points.
One of my travel mates bought some.
I am sighted in with Federal bulk pack hollow-points in half my Rifles and Winchester Power-Points in the more ritzy other half.
Again have NOT seen the Winchester Power-Points on a store shelf in "for-ever".
Once I got back to my home town gun shop that day, the owner had a nifty Christmas present for me - it was a Christmasy gift boxed factory 3 pack of Federal 22 L.R.'s!
There are three 100 packs of Federal long rifles in this Christmas pack.
What a nice gift/thought from him.
Hoping for better selection in 2,016.
I got a call from a close friend in SW Washington yesterday and a store somewhere around Dayton, Washington had Hornady 17 HMR ammo on sale for $9.99 a box - limit two, so he and his daughter came home with four boxes.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

CCI-HP are going at 11.95 here in town..

Sometime in November, Mid South had Norma Tac22 on sale for 49.99/brick + shipping. Reg price was 59.99.

Always looking for a replacement of Wolf Target Match, which I can't seem to find anymore, I bought a brick of Norma Tac22.

Well the Tac22 worked out so well, ended up buying a case of the stuff. I figure if I can hold 1-1/2 to 2 min at 200 yds it's worth going after. The rifle I used is a slightly upgraded, but full sized 22 Trapdoor Carbine. The ammo also shoots quite well in my 1885 Winchester, also upgraded with a Rem 580 barrel (liner).

Tac22 is very good ammo for the money. Watch for it, as it comes on sale occasionally.

1195 for 100 Minimag HPS?
YGBSM.

Yes, and they have sold about half a case!!

When is Obama gonna be gone and Hitlery retired?

Has anyone seen any of the new CCI Suppressor load?

What bout the Federal 45grs suppressor rounds too

What about the Federal 45grs suppressor rounds too?

I haven't tried the Norma Tac-22. I see Midway has it in stock at $65 per brick of 500, plus shipping.

Interesting read here. Never thought about it in regards to upping rim fire production.

https://www.sofmag.com/why-cant-i-find-22-ammo

Interesting indeed... Good points in that article..

No, Haven't seen any here except one place that is triple what it should be.

It basically stated the obvious: "Demand has increased dramatically yet no large American ammunition maker has added a new rimfire ammunition plant."
The domestic munitions industry have sat on it's hands hoping the demand is temporary (going on 4 yrs!?), unwilling to invest in expansion, wilst the arms makers have pumped hundreds of thousands of rimfire semiautos into the market creating an even larger demand. All they've done is flog their existing equipment to run 24/7 which, as anyone in manufacturing will tell you, is a most inefficient method of increasing output over an extended period of time. As long as they keep their heads stuck in the sand denying the demand is permanent, refusing to invest in favor of short term profits, the market as it is today will be the norm. In my area, it sucks.

Thanks. This about the most cogent summary I have seen, and the part I have highlighted gets little attention.

The standard theme from the industry is to put most of the blame on hoarders, who supposedly stand in line to snap up the trickle of .22s that arrive at retail outlets. Just a part of the picture, at best. Little is said about what is going on between the beginning and end point of the supply chain.

The free market works in the long run, but not like a well-oiled machine, and it ain't always pretty.

Paul

I'm seeing more but I wouldn't call it an influx. Bass Pro at the Pyramid in Memphis had some this past weekend.

There's likely a nugget of truth in most views of this situation, but I think the scrounges sucking up the plinking ammo at the discount stores are the biggest contributors to the problem. By taking cheap ammo out of the regular supply stream, they drive folks up the quality ladder to mid-range ammo for plinking, which creates shortages in that price range which causes folks to binge buy and hoard when they can until they think they have "enough", whatever they perceive that to be. Undoubtedly, some otherwise normal folks have gone a little nuts and "enough" never comes. Several people have posted here admitting to having more than they ever can use. Higher end stuff has remained available throughout this mess with the cut-off point point around $8 per 50, too rich for the scrounges to invest in. Preppers likely play a part, accumulating ammo not only for their own Doomsday needs, but as trade goods for the end-of-times economy they expect.

The part I find funny is that O'Keefe takes the industry to task for not being willing to invest billions of dollars of their investors' money in accordance with his "expert" notions of the market. Seems to me that the ammo companies pay lots of good money to people to determine what the market is. Maybe he needs to offer his services to them. My "expert" notion is that if enough shooters stop buying ammo from the scrounges, they will dry up and blow away, and eventually the market will restore to normal.

Meanwhile, I continue to find all the .22s I need online, at reasonable prices, and have yet to stand in line anywhere for crap ammo. Any opportunity to avoid the sad display of societal decay at Whatamart is a bonus.

Starting to see some .22lr show up at various stores in Southern Oregon. The price is at least double if not more than before the obummer scare.

Just picked up 2 cases of Federal (525) bulk pacs today. Had a good selection of other stuff too for the new year. Will more likly put these 20 bulk pack on here for sale, don't really need this.

So far, I've been able to buy what I need without resorting to buying Remington rimfire stuff, which I don't care to use in any of my rimfires. Remington's reputation for rimfire ammo is now so bad that you can find it almost anywhere you look. I could use Remington if I had to, but I haven't had to resort to that, yet.

The supply of my favorite stuff is loosening up a bit, I can usually find it if I go looking for it, and other suitable substitutes if I can't find that particular load.

Meantime, I've got some old production WW Power Points, some of the Aguila "Mexican Mini-Mags" and Winchester 555 bulk packs and Federal AutoMatch to plink with, so I've not been completely out of .22 shooting when I wanted to do so.

I'd like to see the prices drop back to pre-Obama times, but that ain't gonna happen, so I'm going to suck it up and pay what I have to pay, for what I want to use.

Lots of Federal Automatch..........random CCI shorts....a few mini mags..........Remington Thunder Duds........etc.

I am not in need and apparently most in my area aren't any more either...............(probably never were in need)

It's abundant here..........local BiMart has it EVERY DAY and has for 2 months.

They usually have CCI standard, CCI shorts, CCI mini mags.........occassionally the 325 packs of Fed Auto match.

Not always, but every week I see some of one of those flavors.

.22 magnum on the other hand...............GOOD LUCK

Don't need them, but buying them up anyway. Nice. Keep on
helping to keep the supply short for your area. Nice. May your
sales here amount to more than "0".

Don't need them, but buying them up anyway. Nice. Keep on
helping to keep the supply short for your area. Nice. May your
sales here amount to more than "0". [/quote

I buy from a wholesaler. I have a shop, and I have a good selection in the shop. Will be selling these 20 boxes for $19.67 each. I help guys on here that can't find or have problems finding any that's why I pick it up. If I don't buy from my wholesaler I might lose my place in line. People in my area do have a place to buy. ME if I don't sell on here I will in my shop.

Gemby,

Got any CCI Quiets?

Dink

Dink I can get quiets 22`s there around

Never been a shortage of any brand in my part of the world.

I would be interested in a case but I am cheap. If you get any at decent price let me know maybe we can work something out.

Dink

Available in Midway's website right now.
Link.

Haven't checked in here in awhile.

The answer to the OP's question is still "No".

Paul

plenty of ammo to be had in the Clarksville tn and fort Campbell ky areas

at least for now

academy is the place to go