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Originally Posted by FieldGrade


I don't know....that Buffalo Bull that appeared out of the fog standing about a foot from the highway one winter night when I was whizzing through West Yellowstone in a 92 Toyota looked pretty "dangerous" to me....fuggers head was bigger than my truck....if I'd a hit him head on I doubt he would have even known....


I could understand a person feeling vulnerable in that situation.

If they weren't driving a Toyota.



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Wyo, the Town Pump can get a little sporty any time of day but midnight on and most non-locals are too chicken to stop.



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My computer screwed up my last post.. As we drove by the bar several drunken Indians yelled at us to stop in.. Knowing the rep. of the bar, I decided to keep moving... Told my wife I had no tags for drunken Indians, so it would mean trouble if we had to shoot our way out.. Don't know if the place is still there but it sure sounded interesting..


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I've traveled all over the US and the globe, there really aren't any dangerous towns in MT. Sketchy bar or neighborhood, sure. Towns like Polson, Kalispell, Missoula, Hamilton, and Helena on the list make me laugh.


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Originally Posted by deflave
I'm sorry but "dangerous" and "Montana" don't really go together IMO.




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That has been the vibe i got whenever i have been there. Seems about as dangerous as NH or even less so, and NH is pretty fricken safe. Most crimes here are drug related posession, distribution, and junkies breaking into cars and houses.


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This was a most interesting survey, however I never spent any night life in the top 10 towns. Big Sandy is another story where it was nip and tuck one night.

Then there was the Winifred Bar in Winifred where a horse's ass spoiled the evening. grin

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Originally Posted by NH_Sharpshooter


That has been the vibe i got whenever i have been there. Seems about as dangerous as NH or even less so, and NH is pretty fricken safe. Most crimes here are drug related posession, distribution, and junkies breaking into cars and houses.


Please don't use those two states in the same post.

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Dangerous might not be fitting in a few towns like Hardin or Browning.....but they'll steal anything that isn't nailed down, and most things that are....and they'll do it fast.


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Though MT overall is very safe comparatively, lets not pretend you need a high population of blacks or a run-down urban setting to be "dangerous". There are places I don't stop, and I won't stop regardless the color of the overheads behind me. I've been weirded the fugg out in some tiny podunk towns in the Dakotas.


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When I was growing up in NE MT, Poplar was the per capita homicide capitol of the US, more than once. I love Montana, and for the most part the friendliest folks in the world live there, but there are, in fact, seriously dangerous places, not many, but be warned.



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South side of Billings aint no walk in the park.


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Originally Posted by oldtrapper
When I was growing up in NE MT, Poplar was the per capita homicide capitol of the US, more than once. I love Montana, and for the most part the friendliest folks in the world live there, but there are, in fact, seriously dangerous places, not many, but be warned.



lol Poplar doesnt bug me, wound up at a house party there more than once 10 years ago or lil more. but I really dont care for stopping in Browning, guess its a case of the devil you know. but in all reality if you take theft off the table, vast majority of the crime in Wolf Point and Poplar(and guessing rest of reservation towns) is native on native. hell when ever we hired a new person from out of town we always told them you will avoid 99% of the trouble if your out of the bars by 11pm. as Sam says though Town Pump can be sporty at times especially after dark but i guess most the time its been shake your head entertainment to me. watching the cops stop at Water Hole is always fun too.....


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Browning isn't all that bad. I wouldn't leave a vehicle unattended for long, but I never feel physically threatened.

Heart Butte is a little spooky.

All in all, Indians are pretty harmless to whites IMO. Most danger they pose is getting behind the wheel sauced. They like to stab each other though.


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Originally Posted by Remington6MM
South side of Billings aint no walk in the park.


What's the street with the old bars? Montana St? Is the Empire Bar still open? That seemed like a good place to lose a few teeth or a kidney.

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Originally Posted by Sycamore
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South side of Billings aint no walk in the park.


What's the street with the old bars? Montana St? Is the Empire Bar still open? That seemed like a good place to lose a few teeth or a kidney.

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Montana Ave. not as bad as it used to be, had a nice meal with a cute lil thing at a small Italian Cafe there last Saturday


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That's the thing. I have never, ever, ever worried for my personal safety anywhere in Montana, at any time. Been on alert a few times, the old White Stallion in Havre was one, and another late night in Browning while fueling up, but never did it get personal.
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Originally Posted by Remington6MM
South side of Billings aint no walk in the park.


Yeah thats pretty accurate, never know what can happen in the downtown either. What people need to remember is stats are worthless for the most part. Cities will always modify the reporting of crime to paint whatever picture they want.

If they are trying for a grant for equipment every simple assault will become "aggravated" for the felony stat. Also a felony assault will be down graded if they dont want those numbers. I took a bottle in the head while bouncing in the downtown and it cost me 30 staples, bad guy had it reduced to a misdemeanor and did a few days of house arrest. A few months later the same guy was arrested for being the serial rapist. I have also worked plenty of felony cases from robbery to assault to rape and if a victim does not cooperate there is no crime and no stat is reported for the UCR.

Bottom line is dont sell drugs, buy drugs or go where they are used and you will avoid about 95% of all violent crime.


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Originally Posted by varmintsinc


Bottom line is dont sell drugs, buy drugs or go where they are used and you will avoid about 95% of all violent crime.


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Originally Posted by oldtrapper
When I was growing up in NE MT, Poplar was the per capita homicide capitol of the US, more than once. I love Montana, and for the most part the friendliest folks in the world live there, but there are, in fact, seriously dangerous places, not many, but be warned.



Was in some water-quality program when I worked for MSU. The higher-ups were talking about the Poplar River being the standard to which other waters in the area were to be compared to.

I made the mistake of asking out loud, "I assume that would be after they fished the dead indians out of it". I didn't fit in well with the university admin.


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The Jim-Town bar is still open. Had a friend tell me they are sponsoring a coyote hunt this winter.


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