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I couldn't tell. That's a cool gun.

GFY you know nothing azzhat.

I doubt like hell there are any inner belts, partitions or anything fancy as far as construction in those cheap, factory loaded bullets you've been shooting in your x39. The fact is, the bullets I was using in my .30-30 were most likely nearly identical in construction and you don't know any different. Hornady has always touted the 130 grain spire point as a dual purpose varmint/light big game bullet {there's a HINT for you azzhole}. Any jacketed bullet designed to expand at a measly 2300 fps is going to be fairly light jacketed and soft cored. Speed that same bullet up to 3000 + fps and it's instantly transformed into a rapidly expanding varmint bullet. The 130 gr. Hornady's I recovered from deer were picture perfect mushrooms and retained a good portion of their original weight. The fact is, you don't have a fuggin' clue what you're talking about or what I know or have used so you might better try impressing somebody else there jerkoff.

Damn, son. I don't think I've ever run up on anyone who was so offended at a comparison.

I like the 30 WCF. I like it alot, but it isn't a sacred cow.

No need to get so worked up when someone else's experience doesn't agree with yours.

Yup...still not contributing anything worthwhile...

Why don't you actually use the round in question before your spew your irrational and bitter fallacies across the page? That too hard?

How would performance differ in any meaningful way if I shot 125 gr. sp's out of a 7.62x39 @ 23-2400 fps as opposed to shooting 125-130 grain bullets out of a .30-30 100 fps faster ? Maybe you aughtta STFU and listen.

Given similar construction, it's asinine to think that a 125 grain .30 cal {or .311} bullet @ 2300 fps will penetrate as well as a 150 or 170 gr bullet at roughly the same velocity.

Given the economic and social situation in this country, it's asinine to think that the American people voted Obama to a second term, but it happened.

The truth is, there is every probability that a 125 or so grain .311 bullet started at 2300 fps WON'T penetrate to the same depth as a 170 grain .308 launched at the same velocity as a 30 WCF.

But, if we estimate the width of a whitetail deer is say, 14 inches, and the Russian penetrates 14.5", while the 30-30 penetrates 20", what difference does it make? (With the caveat that the hunter shooting the Russian is willing to wait for a shot to the armpit.)

Let me get this straight...you made a bitter ass of yourself arguing there was a meaningful difference in the field between the .30-30 and 7.62x39, having never shot a x39 at a deer. You touted your "vast" number of deer kills as evidence of your knowledge and as a substitute for actual experience. Then you ridicule someone who is not only a highly respected rifleman, but has killed more deer with a bow than you have with a gun. You make no caveats or offer conditions to your argument, but go all in from a position of ignorance with an absolute statement regarding an intangible and unquantifiable subject.

Then you have the audacity to make the statement above?

You literally just made the same argument everyone else on the thread did.

That 100-150 fps makes not one bit of difference in the field.

I'm no smarter than anyone else at the fire, just putting some different words on it.

The Russian is a viable cartridge. Its' user just has to understand the performance envelope he is working with. Much the same as a man who hunts with a flintlock rifle. Are they deadly? Hell yes. Not in the same way as a 12 gauge slug, but when properly applied, they kill things just as dead.

Wow. That escalated quickly !


I just started this thread for some info..... It's turned into something else.

Exactly.

Try not to be such a dunce petro. Not many folks choose to shoot 125 grain bullets out of a .30-30 at deer, including me. There is a reason for that.

Not when both are shooting 125's no. But the .30-30 can drive 150 and 160 grain bullets faster than the 7.62x39 drives 125's. It makes a diffence in penetration and sometimes that matters. If it doesn't, then I just don't get why so many here think they need TSX'S or some such super bullet to kill deer with a .223 when garden variety 55 gr. sp's will kill them just fine.

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STFU!

Sweetie, hate to break it to you, but you are dumb as [bleep]!

I was probably killing deer when your momma was still wiping your azz. You should be taking notes.

And what, you're a fuggin genius ? BWAAAAHAAAAHAAAAHAAAHAAaaaa !!! Wait, you're on that "Alaskan bush people" show ain't ya ? Is that you Birdie ?