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I had done moa for years and fought mils hard. In less than 30 minutes at a range I was done and started converting over, so much easier to count by tens.
Hunt hard, kill clean, waste nothing and offer no apologies.
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I hear you, I'm not committed to switch over everything.
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Just checked the SWFA site.. No phone #, do you have to register in order to buy??
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Not a problem. Good luck. Got a few en route myself.
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Thanks guys! Dogshooter swears by them and I trust his judgement completely but wanted a better explanation I guess
That being said, what would you guys recommend for my 260 that will be used shooting anything g from coyotes to deer in relatively open country
The 6x and 3-9x are the peaches for hunting. The 10x is for play or a truly dedicated open country gun.
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That being said, what would you guys recommend for my 260 that will be used shooting anything g from coyotes to deer in relatively open country My hands on Super Chicken experience isn't as extensive compared to several that post here. I have and use the fixed 6x & 10x, the 3-15 and now the 1-4 Illuminati. The 1-4 is right at home on an AR-15 and just picked up three more for a 9.3x62mm and a couple more AR-15's. The 6x is my favorite and if SWFA would add an illuminated reticle it would be the bees knees. The fixed 10x I just never could really appreciate. If you have wide open spaces, a little more than 10x just seems a little more practical, and admittedly a personal preference. Thus the reason I have a 3-15x42mm.
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You don't buy a SS for the "glass". You buy it for durability and repeatability. Absolutely correct. The SWFA line is for aiming, not observation.
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Regarding the optical qualities...
I think the 3-9x is pretty good except for tunnel vision on 3x. Set it on 4x and it's good to go. Light transmission, resolution, and glare/flare are really pretty good.
The 20x is dim, but is to be expected with the exit pupil. I no longer own this scope.
The 3-15x is a little disappointing on 15x, but overall it's tough to complain about for the price. I had one for awhile then sold it. I think the SF is a weak point, but haven't heard of any problems.
The 6x and 10x are solid as stated by others. 10x is more of a specialized tool. Several of us ran an informal test and none thought we could get on a mover as fast as we'd like. My 10x scopes are on play rifles, not hunting rigs. The 6x is a breeze in comparison. An 8x would probably split the diff in the right direction.
My only complaint with the fixed Super Birds is glare on the ocular lens. Under certain conditions, it'll affect the image but it's a simple matter to re-position slightly or block the offending light source. The 3-9x does not suffer this. In no way would this keep me from buying more fixed powers. Nothing comes close as they state, even for more money.
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I'm interested in the 1-4x24 illuminati's, do I want the classic or the hd?
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I just bought my second 1-4 classic. I really don't need 6 power in ga.
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Thanks guys! Dogshooter swears by them and I trust his judgement completely but wanted a better explanation I guess
That being said, what would you guys recommend for my 260 that will be used shooting anything g from coyotes to deer in relatively open country
You'd probably like the 3-9X HD model bestest. Travis
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I hear you, I'm not committed to switch over everything. I use both and don't understand why people won't do the same. Travis
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I'm going to buy one in the 10x. I've have had a problem getting on board . In my mind I see a young Asian kid chained to a work bench.
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I decided to give 6x42MQ a try and ordered one yesterday. Additionally, Chris and I exchanged a few emails, and he was very helpful. If I like the scope, great. If not, no biggie, as I have found another optical retailer to add to my "A" list.
Scott
P.S. Thanks BS for turning me on to this scope.
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I'm going to buy one in the 10x. I've have had a problem getting on board . In my mind I see a young Asian kid chained to a work bench. That's a problem how...
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Do they not make a straight duplex with turrets to spin?
It seems to me that most folks who shoot/hunt LR do so with the aid of a decent electronic rangefinder.
I don't feel the need for both the range finding reticle and the turrets to spin unless one was preparing for electronic rangefinder failure.
What am I missing in my thinking?
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I'm no expert but windage. Wind can change so easier to use the reticle to hold for wind versus constantly twisting knobs especially if you are trying to get a shot off on an animal.
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