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The mold is from Accurate. It has five cavities.

1 210 gr ......#411210T

3 175 gr.......#411175M

and 1 250 gr...#411250A


Thanks for looking. You ever wish that bullet had a gas check on it?


Not yet. grins But I have only burned up a couple dozen of the 250's. And I have not tried them in the carbine.
My experience with cast is, admittedly, quite limited. My research leads me to believe gas checks are not necessary at typical revolver or auto pistol velocities with proper alloys.


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They're not, but they can help make up for dimensional issues with the throat/forcing cone/barrel arrangement.


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Again, my knowledge is limited mostly to what I have read on the subject. Several magazine articles and internet search suggest throat/barrel dimension issues seldom arise with the 41 as the cartridge is fairly young and the factories have held dimensions to a good standard.



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Originally Posted by RoninPhx
6: 210 XTP over 11 gr HS6. This is the bullet I carry in the gun when in the hills with wolves and black bears.
bears are what first got me interested in big bore handguns after a couple of experiences.
I think we have the wolfs in central arizona now too or the mixed coywolves.
That marlin in 41 although firing a handgun round isn't a slouch at all. it's getting up there around the 38.55range in that old cartridge.
The one i have is pretty quick for repetitve fire and accurate.


If I remember correctly, the same 210 gr load that clocked 1390 from the SBH ran about 1750 from the carbine. That would mess up any critters' day inside 150 yds.

The only thing I ever killed with the carbine was a big feral black lab which was bothering stock on my place and several of the neighbors. The 170 gr Sierra over a max load of H110 took care of the situation.


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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Again, my knowledge is limited mostly to what I have read on the subject. Several magazine articles and internet search suggest throat/barrel dimension issues seldom arise with the 41 as the cartridge is fairly young and the factories have held dimensions to a good standard.



My Hunter was pretty tight under the barrel threads. That has been alleviated, but it wasn't the best cast bullet shooter until it was dealt with. It shoots 210gr XTP's better than I believed a revolver could, but good BTB bullets sized to the throats where only shooting 2-3" groups before fire lapping the constriction out.


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Thanks for the information. I will set the scope back on mine and see what it will group with cast.


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I settled on 210/215 grain bullets and 2400 powder in the .41 Magnum many years ago. Jacketed bullets get 18/2400, std primers; hard cast lead gets 17.5/2400, std primers.

These loads have been superbly accurate in my three Model 57 S&W revolvers. As a caution, do not down load 2400, as it's at its best with full magnum loads.

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I used to use the Lyman/Keith 410459 bullet out of wheelweights, on top of 11.0 Unique. It would shoot 1365fps out of a 6.5" Blackhawk, and it was outstanding for accuracy. It DID recoil a bit, but I never had any problems out of it, pressure-wise, and 1.5" groups at 50 yards weren't impossible at the time. My eyesight and hands (arthritis) probably wouldn't let me do it now, but back in the day.............

I also liked that old Speer half-jacketed 220 SWC, which shot exceptionally well with a stiff load of Blue Dot. It shot so well, in fact, that I never looked for anything other than those two loads, and a plinking load (7.5 Unique, of course).


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Ive had good results with a 412459 NOE version and 8 grs. CFE Pistol.

The CFE Pistol is super clean too.

A good full power load is the same bullet and 17.5 grs. 2400.

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Which one is the 412459?

I've been favorably impressed with his moulds, especially for the cash outlay.


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