Cabelas had a NF 4x14x56 SHV MOAR illuminated in the bargain cave at my local store today. $995 out the door. We'll see how it does on my Sendero 7mm STW.
You do much "spotting impacts" with sporter weight BG rifles and 16x scopes from field positions other than prone and bipod, John?
You read a whole lot of mirage through a 14x scope...? Don't you normally have a spotting scope, and you usually have a spotter/partner along as well, correct?
Question #1. Of course.
Question #2. Of course.
Makes me smile that reading mirage at 14X stymies some. Look more.
It is actually kinda funny to think of who exactly would make me change a wind call when I have 14.7X and they have a spotting scope.
Pro Tip: The list is very short.
Pro Tip #2: You are not on that list but given a bit of training you might make the cut. Practice more???
Pro Tip # 2 was a bit of jab. Just havin fun.
Here is a bit of a hint. 3 good hits for 3 shot with 2 moving at 550yds.
. You might not want to play this game.
John go easy on him you keep scarin in him off..........
I see 1 good hit out of 3 there. In what appears to be very limited wind. With the first shot being at an uninjured, moving bull elk at 550 yards. Great example.
Mr. Seinfeld, did that 2nd round really hit that bull in the dome?
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The trace is pretty clear in the vid and every hit is visable.
Spotting through the camera screen is less than optimal.
Originally Posted by starsky
I see 1 good hit out of 3 there. In what appears to be very limited wind. With the first shot being at an uninjured, moving bull elk at 550 yards. Great example.
I had a few funny (to me) snarky remarks but some of you guys get defensive when you step on your wanker. I am toning it down a bit.
Just watch the video again, cripes it is in HD. The trace is all there.
On a positive note you are 100% correct that there was "very limited wind". I guess that's a good observation.
14X let me see the lack of mirage which is just as important as seeing a bunch of mirage.
The first round hit on the ribs can be seen here in this picture if you are struggling with the video.
A good Monday morning quarter back might say I needed another minute of lead but a solid double lung hit on a moving bull at 550yds is not horrible.
Originally Posted by Formidilosus
I don't know what y'all are talking about, I see great shooting with a "sporter rifle" and high power scope at long range with "no spotter".
Clearly exactly how ackleyfan hunts.
Read trace much.
I didn't think so. It's only HD video.
Thus endith the lesson.
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I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.
Just watched the video, scrubbing back and forth over the shots a few times. From the looks of things, it's really difficult to see the trace or impact on the first shot, due to the bull making it to the edge of the camera's FOV when the shot was released (pard took hands off the camera for a minute to work the cow call, I assume). In your photo, however, you can see what must be the first shot, and based on the angle of the photo it looks to be a high, slightly rear lung shot, just under the spine. As you say, a bit more lead wouldn't have hurt, but not a terrible shot. In the vid, the second shot was at a quartering toward and left presentation, and the trace showed the bullet hitting somewhere on the outside left of the neck area, which appears to be a flesh wound in the neck muscle. The third shot showed an impact that I assume was a bit further forward than intended, perhaps a bit too much lead on the walking bull in compensation for the first shot which hit a little further back than you wanted, and hit the front edge of the shoulder, a bit above the center line of the body. The shot must have come very close to the spine or hit it, since the bull's legs folded up immediately as it went down.
Sound about right? Any pics of the 2nd or 3rd shots on the bull?
I did the same thing, running the video several times, and it looked to me like the second hit, when the bull was more-or-less facing, was just inside the elk's left shoulder. Will also be interested to hear.
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That's what it looked like to me as well. Easy to see the "trace" as I expanded the video to full size on my PC's screen. First hit was front of left shoulder about mid way up. Good shot as far as I'm concerned. Second hit (third shot) looked to be slightly in front of the right shoulder when he dropped like a stone. You can still see some trace from that shot as well.