Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Handguns I don't care about 50 yd accuracy!

All of this sounds good...just remember, when you're returning fire...you are responsible for every round you fire.

Agreed, we should be held to a much higher standard and more liable than the killers.

I do not agree with your position.

However, it does not matter if you use your weapon to save your life, or the life of someone else, you will have to answer for any of your rounds that cause colateral damage.

Then I shouldn't shoot, I'll wait to be shot.

That's up to you. It's your call.

You've scared me.

We are all talking about long range accuracy but just a thought to stir it up. If I am carrying a pistol and find myself needing to use it against a threat with long range capabilities I will need to consider closing ground. Just like proximity negates skill, proximity can also negate a ballistic advantage.

If armed with a pistol against someone with a rifle I would not want to start my portion of the fight at 50 yards, I would want to get as close as possible before I fired the first round. I agree that most wolves will run when they are engaged whether they are hit or not and even shots that miss can save lives, but to finish the fight with a pistol I would rather be at 5 feet than 50 yards.

I hadn't thought of that. Thanks for the tip.

"Hopefully if you're out with the family and something happens their there will be a man around to protect your wife."

Laughing my ass off...

No wonder the south is the south.




Travis

So is acting like a pussy.

Good thing we got gals like you to coach us along.




Travis

Bill really has his schit together.

Holy fugk...

My ribs hurt.




Travis

Bill needs to learn how to read

No. Actually, you pull that off very well.

It's litttle wonder that GFY is such a familiar term with you.

It must be one of several little talents you posess.

What is your talent?

Besides talking out your ass, hiding, and not being able to use a handgun?



Dave

Hey now...!!! Don't judge us all by one guy in Georgia that is scared of his own shadow and can't shoot.

You gotta wonder if he even carries. And if so, why?




Travis

There is a Woody Allen-like mindset in the the CCW community I jokingly refer to as being 'Ayoobed to Death'. It results from endless stories of eeeee-vile prosecutors whose only goal in life is to torment folks who dust some azzhole who really needed it.

Now I don't know exactly where this is occurring but it ain't in MO. I've got about four decades in LE here, spent over one of the working directly for a prosecutor. In that time I have seen maybe a dozen righteous defensive shootings and none of them was charged with anything. Yes, some were questioned by the po-po. If they truthfully related a set of circumstances that met the legal requirements for a justifiable use if deadly force--and the evidence, witness accounts etc. supported their story--they went on their way. This is not to say they weren't sued, but many states have added legislation that prohibits civil action for a justified use of force. You are responsible to know the laws governing the defense of self or others, wherever you might need to defend yourself.

There's another thing that needs to be said here. There is an undeclared war against the civilian population of the United States in particular and western civilization in general. In many parts of the US, you can go about armed. This accomplishes nothing if you are not willing or able to shoot down a rabid dog hiding inside a human body.

Yes, you are responsible for every round you fire. IMO there is no better insurance than the ability to shoot with surgical precision. I have worked hard for the ability to accomplish that with my carry gun to 50 yards, or a tad further.

I think the close/fast skillset is just as important as it ever was. A lot of these mass killings occur at very close range, either because the killer wants to see the reaction or they are just a piss poor shot. If they stumble onto a committed pistolero who can index fire instantly and precisely, they are going to get a face and/or crotch full of hot lead. Assume they are wearing body armor or explosives. Send the MF'ers to their reward as unrecognizable eunuchs.

The present enemy don't take marksmanship very seriously; but they have some strengths, which must be understood to be exploited.

The enemy has no compunction for killing and gets brownie points for high body count. They average CCW guy (or cop for that matter) doesn't want to kill anybody. If you get caught up in one of these incidents and you can't 'throw that switch' you are asking to be another slaughtered sheep. What we are dealing with is rabid wolves in human form. Ignore the biped and kill the wolf inside him.

The enemy exploits the element of surprise and has little fear his victims will fight back effectively. He has no understanding of OODA and no Plan B. Instant and precise return fire will fook up his murder spree or kill him outright.

Only you can decide whether you can do that.

One of them is recognizing insecurity.

You really are a jr. high kid inside, and have never gotten over those trying years.

You fight that insecurity by watching cowboy movies i'd wager.

When you carry, do you feel like you're Clint Eastwood, or John Wayne?

Maybe, you just want to feel Eastwood? Afterall, Wayne is dead.