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Survival or subjection. Take your pick.

Liberty or security, take your pick.

I choose Liberty myself.

We need travel restrictions, IMO.

These dirtbags go to Syria, Qatar, wherever, don't plan on coming back. For now, it's a one-way trip.

Subjection by WHOM, if I might make so bold as to ask ?

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Americas problems haven't been caused by adherence to the Bill of Rights.

Sure, or keep all of them out. So if suddenly 500 million Muslim want to come to America, we have to let them in?

There's nothing in the Bill of Rights that obligates America to accept *any* immigrants.

Several good points by quite a few people,

Can anyone point to a section in our Constitution that says we HAVE to accept immigrants? In other words is there anything that says we can't hang a big NO VACANCY sign on Lady liberty?

No need to touch our precious Bill of Rights.

Radical Islam has declared war on us. We must declare war on them and deal with them under articles of war. Then, as our sworn enemy, whenever they kill one of us, we must kill 100 of them. Soon, no more radical Islam problem.

The only immigration we can allow is that which requires assimilation. If you don't want to be an American don't come to America. If you want to practice islamic theocracy remain in an islamic theocratic state.

Muslims. In the United States. The ones here now, and the ones coming.

How do you think all those Arab Muslim immigrants got here? They used to be restricted on racial grounds. (Along with some others.)

What part of the bill of rights takes away congress's authority to establish rules of immigration?

Declare Islam a Terrorist Organization and we can apply all sorts of remedies.

I'm getting the sense that most here on the 'Fire don't want to change anything in the Bill of Rights. I think most of the rest of the country agrees.

Just so we're all clear, though, most of the great ideas about how to deal with Muslim terror on the other threads just isn't going to happen.

Throw them all out of the country? Impale them on stakes? Not going to happen. They're going to keep coming. And they'll take over town councils, and school boards one by one, until they gain real political power in this country.

As for trading liberty for security, it's a great catch phrase. Security without liberty, yeah, we've seen that. But tell me how long any one man's liberty can exist without some kind of security for the society in which he lives. Security against Muslim terror, in this case. Even John Wayne didn't walk alone.

+1000^^^

Most of the ideas which have appeared here (on other threads) for combating terrorism have bordered on the insane. For example, 4ager thinks we should have bombed the hell out of our ally Saudi Arabia because 14 of the 911 bombers were from there. The Saudi royal family is hanging onto their regime with their fingernails against Islamist extremists. The Saudis banished Osama Bin Laden from their borders in 1992. The reason? The Saudis had allowed US forces to be stationed in Saudi Arabia in 1990 during the 1st Iraq war. Osama Bin Laden was so outraged at the Saudi government for doing this that he began writing anti-Saudi treatises. In 1992 the Saudi's banished him.


No doubt there are a lot of terrorists in Saudi Arabia. ( Gee, you think it's got something to do with their being lots and lots of Muslims in that country!) The anti-Saud family radicals in Saudi Arabia would like nothing better than to be able to take the seat of governmental power away from the Saud family. 4ager's solution is to help the jihadists do that by punishing the Saud family for being relatively loyal to us by bombing the largest oil producing country in the world back to the stone age. His justification: apparently there are
Islamist extremists in Saudi Arabia and if the country does not produce them to us, we bomb them. The problem is, those extremists in Saudi Arabia want to take the Saud famly out of power as bad (or worse) than they want to take us out. By all means 4ager, let's help the radical dethrone one of our few allies in the region while simultaneously creating a worldwide energy shortage of unprecedented magnitude.

That's one example of the idiocy masquerading as sound anti-terror foreign policy on this forum. (Some of the others are equally insane inasmuch as they presuppose or argue for an abandonment of some of the Bill of Rights. Very much like Leftists demanding the same thing as to the Second Amendment.

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[quote=tjm10025How do we do that and let Christians and Hindus emigrate here without altering the Bill of Rights?

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Why do we want to do that at this time? We need to consider what benefits us and not pay too much attention to what benefits people from other countries. They are not protected by the BOR unless we let them in.