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'Course we could always try a 110 Barnes TTSX at 3400-3500 from the 270.....or the same 120 gr at 3300-3400.That from 24" tubes.
This could go on all night....anyway you slice it,7/08 loses.
Does Barnes even make a .277 120-gn TTSX? Not in my software. Yeah, the .270 wins by an RCH. No replacement for displacement, although BC does close the gap, damn near. But then I'm carrying a long action rifle for that RCH. Hands...... so..... tired......
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Rancho, the following is what I have right now. I currently own a 7mm-08, 25-06, 450 marlin, 30-30, 35 rem, 300 WM, .223, .243, 338 federal and the .264 WM. Not alot of standard calibers so that is why I was thinking of adding one or two. "Not a lot of standard calibers"??? 7-08, 25-06, 30-30, .300WM, .223, .243 are all pretty 'standard' to me.. Here's maybe a more viable comparison.. The 25-06 will run a 120 gr to 3,000 fps.. A .270 will run a 130 grain to 3,000 fps.. The .264 will run a 130 grain bullet up to 3200, and a 140 grain to 3,000 fps.. What you're doing so far is slightly hindering the performance capability of the .264.. In your area, is 130 grain factory stuff all that's available? And are you certain of the Nosler speed on those 130s (i.e., are you running them through a chrono?) If they're truly within 25 fps of the .270 then Nosler's really toned down the load. The .264 is really a very well-performing round and benefits greatly by reloading.. I don't think you'd get much benefit, overall, by trading down to a .270.. Just my .02 His XTR's tube is 24"
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Either way I'll stick with the poor boy's magnum. Each and every cartridge has its good sides and down sides. The ole 270 Win is no different and the 264 is in the same boat with the same paddle.  Truth be known the 270 Winchester is one of the best combinations there is, lighter rifles, shorter barrels, good speeds and decent bc's. Not much can boast the almost perfect balance of power, speed and lower recoil with a lighter weight rifle. Guys will try to compare the 7-08 with it but then the same ole argument comes up about bc and so on. Keep trying fellas but you just can't beat it. Its a winner and to get anymore you need more powder, longer barrels and heavier guns.
JOC was right. The 270 Winchester on a Model 70 is a great combination as is the 30/06 and 375 H&H
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I am totally out of step. Virtually all of my shots are 200 yards or less, and all on feral hogs. I shoot two cartridges (note: not calibers, lest I get called for it): .260 Rem and, recently, 7x57. Haven't blooded the latter in a new M70 yet. Totally irrelevant to this thread, but where I shoot both cartridges are fine. I expect whatever the OP chooses will be fine as well for his circumstances.
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With factory loads at ranges up to 300 yards there isn't enough difference between the .264 and .270 to make the .264 worthwhile, due to the relative lack of factory .264 ammo. With new bullets, powders and .264 hype, at what range is it best to switch from a .270 win to a .264 win. mag?
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Even if there was a reason the 270 will always win. Always. It's why everything south of 30 is compared to it. Factory anything it just trumps [bleep]...
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Pertaining to this post the other day I was in Fleet Farm and they had Federal blue box .270 for $16.99 regular price!
Remington 7/08 was 32.99 and no 264 available.
I didn't price new brass but I'm sure 270 is least expensive. It's more cost effective to go with the most common cartridge and the bonus is ending up with a rocketship like the 270!
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With factory loads at ranges up to 300 yards there isn't enough difference between the .264 and .270 to make the .264 worthwhile, due to the relative lack of factory .264 ammo. With new bullets, powders and .264 hype, at what range is it best to switch from a .270 win to a .264 win. mag? .264's advantage shows up when the wind blows. That advantage grows as range and or wind speed increase. The wind drift advantage is all about the bullets. No flies on the 270 though and it is my first recommendation for a non reloader looking for a "deer rifle".
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You boys realize this thread is almost 4 years old right? Aw hell...I'll just add that my 270 keeps reminding me that I don't need a 264.
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I like both cartridges but have a bit of extra love for the 264. Both will do what I want to do with pretty much equal ability if one doesn't buy into the ballistic gack too seriously. That stated, I can see that I've missed the boat by not having hunting rifles with 29" barrels. Having one would be pure genious if you need to get over high fences in one leap and bound..... or something. 
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I know everyone gets tired of all of these cartridge comparison posts but I need someone to justify a new rifle for me. I currently have a model 70 XTR .264 and recently I have been considering buying a few standard calibers. Most of my rifles are not readily available at your local wal mart. I have been shooting nosler ammo (130 accubonds) from my .264 and I see that the 130 accubond from a .270 is only 25 fps slower. I am not currently a reloader so I am forced to shoot factory ammo. I can also buy .270 shells for considerably less than .264 ammo. Is there really any benefit to owning the .264 over the .270 when the vast majority of my shots are well under 300 yards. I am thinking of selling or trading my .264 for a nice .270 or even a .308. I think the .264 is a "cooler" cartridge but is there really any good reasons to keep it over the .270? I just read on here the other day that you have to be gay to use a .270 so that is one reason why I am not sure I want one I was just wondering if there were any other reasons? Thanks. Under 300 yards there is no practical difference. If you want cheap ammo, get a .308 or .30-06. You won't see any difference with them under 300 yards, either, except in your wallet.
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With RL-26 powder, the 270 Winchester might beat out the 264 win mag now; assuming both have 24" barrels.
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Get a 270 Weatherby. It's better than the 264 or the 270 Winchester.
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I have no on game experience with the 264 despite owning 2-3 of them. I did however shoot one with Berger 140's out to 1300 yards one afternoon with John Burns rifle and it is a force of nature way out there....I was impressed...  But I bet with more "standard bullets" there is not much difference between the 270 Weatherby and the 264,aside from the heavier 270 bullet weights. I've only owned one 270 Weatherby that started the factory 130's at over 3400 fps from a 24" Lilja. With better bullets the two have to be pretty close at normal distances (600 yards?). Both hold more powder than a 270 Winchester so I never thought the comparison was fair; plus the 270 fits much better in a lightweight rifle with a 22" barrel,making it somewhat more suitable for close cover hunting while not leaving too much on the table in open country.
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I've had both. I consider them pretty similar.
I prefer classic.
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I have both and like them both. The 264 has done well for me over the years and after using the 270 Win the last two years it comes quite close to performing as well as the 264. Factor in the new sleek 277 bullets starting to come out, the difference is even less now. When my 264 barrel is toast I'm going to try something new, but it has been fun
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I think ole Jack got it right years ago. 😃
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Bought one and sold it without firing it . At the time I had a 270 bee and a 7mag sitting in the gun safe. Who knows I might actually fire the next 264 I buy 
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