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Stuntshooting - With Style! #10843191 01/06/16
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 3,082 NORTHEAST MISSISSIPPI T TATELAW OP Campfire Tracker
OP TATELAW Campfire Tracker T Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 3,082 NORTHEAST MISSISSIPPI	Last year I purchased a custom Pre-64 Model 70 chambered in 220 Wilson Arrow. I worked up a load for it and finally got to bloody it today. A nice 5x4 with a drop tine on the 4 side. He was running straight at me at 175yds and the little 55gr Hornady SP at 3800fps dropped him instantly with massive blood loss. So much for 22CFs being best left for use on does with perfect broadside shot placement. Those who must raise their voice to get their point across are generally not intelligent enough to do so in any other way.

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Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #10843246 01/06/16
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NMSSHOOTER Campfire Regular Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,061 North Mississippi	I must say the little 55gr done a fine job dropping him in his tracks. Never even wiggled. It was a great day for Roger as he got his second ten pt to stuff. "If you got it, you got it!" In memory of Pops, gone but never forgotten

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #10843258 01/06/16
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 567 Tennessee T TNsavageman Campfire Regular
TNsavageman Campfire Regular T Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 567 Tennessee	Cool rifle and deer! Got to love that mass!

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #10843318 01/06/16
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky C CrimsonTide Campfire Ranger
CrimsonTide Campfire Ranger C Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 21,692 Kentucky	What case is that cartridge based on? "The number one problem with America is, a whole lot of people need shot, and nobody is shooting them." -Master Chief Hershel Davis

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! CrimsonTide #10843326 01/06/16
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 27,692 Western NC hillbillybear Campfire Ranger
hillbillybear Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 27,692 Western NC	Congratulations. That is a fine buck and a really neat old rifle. Last edited by hillbillybear; 01/06/16. Member: Clan of the Turdlike People. Courage is Fear that has said its Prayers �If we ever forget that we are one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.� Ronald Reagan.

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Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #10843456 01/06/16
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 35,900 B BobinNH Campfire 'Bwana
BobinNH Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 35,900	Handsome buck. Love the mass on him! The 280 Remington is overbore. The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #10843627 01/06/16
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 24,638 Midwest SKane Campfire Ranger
SKane Campfire Ranger Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 24,638 Midwest	Cool deer. Looks like he's got a little age on him. WWP53D

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #10843743 01/07/16
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	Welcome to the fold! NICE buck. Anyone that doubts the effectiveness of the little 55 grain Hornady has only to look at Scenarshooters pics..... Stunt shooters can always use a new inductee "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #10843748 01/07/16
Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 2,214 Tennessee 1 1tnhunter Campfire Regular
1tnhunter Campfire Regular 1 Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 2,214 Tennessee	Nice deer Tate.....educate me, what is a 220 Wilson arrow?

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #10843800 01/07/16
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 25,840 Western N.Y. D dvdegeorge Campfire Ranger
dvdegeorge Campfire Ranger D Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 25,840 Western N.Y.	Similar to a .220 Swift with a slightly longer body and neck Cool beans nice rifle and deer My dog is a member of the "Turd Like Clan" Covert Trail Cameras are JUNK 3 Time Dinkathon Champion #DinkGOAT

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Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #10843811 01/07/16
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 3,082 NORTHEAST MISSISSIPPI T TATELAW OP Campfire Tracker
OP TATELAW Campfire Tracker T Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 3,082 NORTHEAST MISSISSIPPI	Thanks guys! The Wilson Arrow is based on the 220 Swift. It's basically a Swift with the shoulder pushed back and the angle sharpened. The basic benefit is less brass trimming due to the sharper shoulder. Problem is Swift ammo won't chamber in the Arrow. Brass must first be formed in the Arrow FL die before the initial loading. This is the second deer I've killed with the little 55 SP, and I've seen several more killed by other folks. First was with a 22-250 at 60yds. It was DRT also. Kinda makes me wonder why I keep experimenting with other bullets, including premiums, when the 55 SP is so cheap, accurate, and effective! Those who must raise their voice to get their point across are generally not intelligent enough to do so in any other way.

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #10843819 01/07/16
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	Originally Posted by TATELAW Kinda makes me wonder why I keep experimenting with other bullets, including premiums, when the 55 SP is so cheap, accurate, and effective! I wonder the same thing.....Ive shot deer with the 55 Horn and they died instantly, but I keep fooling with other bullets. Just worked up a load yesterday for a couple guns with the 63 Grain Sierra SMP....because it came highly recommended from Dober... "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! ingwe #10843859 01/07/16
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wink_man Campfire Regular W Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,732 Socialist Republic of NJ	Originally Posted by ingwe Originally Posted by TATELAW Kinda makes me wonder why I keep experimenting with other bullets, including premiums, when the 55 SP is so cheap, accurate, and effective! I wonder the same thing.....Ive shot deer with the 55 Horn and they died instantly, but I keep fooling with other bullets. Just worked up a load yesterday for a couple guns with the 63 Grain Sierra SMP....because it came highly recommended from Dober... Sierra tells me that the 63 grain smp will stabilize no problem in a 1 in 14 twist barrel, I plan on trying it in a savage 24 combo gun, because all of them in .222 and .223 have a 1 in 14 twist. Garry Trump won !!! Trying to live like a free man in the Communist Republic of New Jersey. Love your country, distrust your government. Democrats and the people who vote for them, enemies of America and a free American people

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! ingwe #10843875 01/07/16
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 3,082 NORTHEAST MISSISSIPPI T TATELAW OP Campfire Tracker
OP TATELAW Campfire Tracker T Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 3,082 NORTHEAST MISSISSIPPI	Originally Posted by ingwe Originally Posted by TATELAW Kinda makes me wonder why I keep experimenting with other bullets, including premiums, when the 55 SP is so cheap, accurate, and effective! I wonder the same thing.....Ive shot deer with the 55 Horn and they died instantly, but I keep fooling with other bullets. Just worked up a load yesterday for a couple guns with the 63 Grain Sierra SMP....because it came highly recommended from Dober... I've got 63 & 65 Sierras, 50, 53, & 62 Barnes, and the 64 Nosler BSB I keep telling myself I'm gonna try. Those who must raise their voice to get their point across are generally not intelligent enough to do so in any other way.

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! wink_man #10843981 01/07/16
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	Originally Posted by wink_man Originally Posted by ingwe Originally Posted by TATELAW Kinda makes me wonder why I keep experimenting with other bullets, including premiums, when the 55 SP is so cheap, accurate, and effective! I wonder the same thing.....Ive shot deer with the 55 Horn and they died instantly, but I keep fooling with other bullets. Just worked up a load yesterday for a couple guns with the 63 Grain Sierra SMP....because it came highly recommended from Dober... Sierra tells me that the 63 grain smp will stabilize no problem in a 1 in 14 twist barrel, I plan on trying it in a savage 24 combo gun, because all of them in .222 and .223 have a 1 in 14 twist. I just got them to shoot yesterday in a 1 in 14 twist .22-250 And in a 1 in 8 twist .223AI...which LOVED them... "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #10843986 01/07/16
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ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	Originally Posted by TATELAW Originally Posted by ingwe Originally Posted by TATELAW Kinda makes me wonder why I keep experimenting with other bullets, including premiums, when the 55 SP is so cheap, accurate, and effective! I wonder the same thing.....Ive shot deer with the 55 Horn and they died instantly, but I keep fooling with other bullets. Just worked up a load yesterday for a couple guns with the 63 Grain Sierra SMP....because it came highly recommended from Dober... I've got 63 & 65 Sierras, 50, 53, & 62 Barnes, and the 64 Nosler BSB I keep telling myself I'm gonna try. Ive shot a lot of the Barnes 50, 53, and 55s...plus the Nosler 64 BSB......all of them are killing SOBs... Never used the Sierras on game, but a number of members here ( whose opinions I actually believe and trust) have told me the 63s and 65s are both good game bullets. "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! ingwe #10844467 01/07/16
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,961 Park Rapids, MN M mmgravy Campfire Regular
mmgravy Campfire Regular M Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,961 Park Rapids, MN	I look forward to your reports on the bullets Tom....

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #10844523 01/07/16
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OP TATELAW Campfire Tracker T Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 3,082 NORTHEAST MISSISSIPPI	I'm still trying to figure out how I managed to take this fine animal with a non - Big Stick approved firearm. 12 twist barrel, schitty BC bullet, Nikon Monarch scope with - Gasp!! - no target turrets. How in the world could such a pathetic firearm work to kill a game animal? Laffin! Last edited by TATELAW; 01/07/16. Those who must raise their voice to get their point across are generally not intelligent enough to do so in any other way.

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #10844595 01/07/16
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	You forgot to mention its a Model 70...NOT Stick Approved! I don't know how this stuff happens either, but Ive had a lot of creatures fall dead in front of my 1 in 12 twist 223AI. All I can think of is that its a miracle capable of replicating itself. And Oh, yeah my rifle has one of those schitty Leupold scopes on it, and Im not shooting a moly-coated 75 Amax...so i have no explanation for all the dead stuff.... Last edited by ingwe; 01/07/16. "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #10844658 01/07/16
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 18,300 Mobile J jimmyp Campfire Ranger
jimmyp Campfire Ranger J Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 18,300 Mobile	nice buck where did you hit him? Lungs??

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! jimmyp #10844981 01/07/16
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 3,082 NORTHEAST MISSISSIPPI T TATELAW OP Campfire Tracker
OP TATELAW Campfire Tracker T Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 3,082 NORTHEAST MISSISSIPPI	Originally Posted by jimmyp nice buck where did you hit him? Lungs?? He was running towards me and I hit him in the chest. Bullet exited between his front legs. Massive blood loss. I didn't do a necropsy but I'm assuming heart/lungs. Those who must raise their voice to get their point across are generally not intelligent enough to do so in any other way.

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #10844982 01/07/16
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,061 North Mississippi NMSSHOOTER Campfire Regular
NMSSHOOTER Campfire Regular Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,061 North Mississippi	He shot him in the chest straight on with deer running straight at us. Pretty hard to figure how the lil cheap bullet made such a mess of the chest cavity but as alluded to early miracle do tend to replicate with the lil sp "If you got it, you got it!" In memory of Pops, gone but never forgotten

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #10845039 01/07/16
Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,280 J justin10mm Campfire Regular
justin10mm Campfire Regular J Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,280	I tried the 63gr. SMP in my .223 because they were so highly praised by members here. I shot a spike at 200 yards with one this season, it was a clean pass through with a broken shoulder to-boot. Color me convinced.

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #10845081 01/07/16
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Dude270 Campfire Tracker D Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,779 Western VA	Beautiful buck and a neat rifle, congratulations! I love the 55 hornady and the 63 smp for deer. Forgive me for saying, but I prefer them to the "premium" bullets like the barnes tsx bullets. In my experience they kill quicker (not deader) than the tougher bullets.

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! justin10mm #10845090 01/07/16
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	Originally Posted by justin10mm I tried the 63gr. SMP in my .223 because they were so highly praised by members here. I shot a spike at 200 yards with one this season, it was a clean pass through with a broken shoulder to-boot. Color me convinced. Good info. thanks! Shot this mule doe with the 55 Grain Hornady out of a .223AI......DRT "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #10845278 01/07/16
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good! tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger
tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good!	Evil Black Rifle stunt shooting... "...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #10845367 01/07/16
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 57,474 Alaska R rost495 Campfire Kahuna
rost495 Campfire Kahuna R Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 57,474 Alaska	damn good one to shoot too! No stunt there... they die pretty quick from a 223 We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #10845667 01/07/16
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mitchellmountain Campfire Regular Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,499 NWintheNE	I hear if you eat a few of those hornady's you can bench press 500 pounds and see through walls. MM Tell me the odds of putting grease on the same pancake? I Know they are there, well ice and house slippers. -Kawi

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! rost495 #10845697 01/07/16
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justin10mm Campfire Regular J Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,280	I might have to give some of those 55gr. Hornadys a try in the .22-250. Last edited by justin10mm; 01/07/16.

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #10845789 01/07/16
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rost495 Campfire Kahuna R Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 57,474 Alaska	Now that I see the first page... LOL.. thats not the bullet choice that I'd be leaning towards with that speed. But you can get away with a lot of things if the shot placement is correct. We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #10846881 01/08/16
Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,301 Northeast USA B beretzs Campfire Ranger
beretzs Campfire Ranger B Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,301 Northeast USA	Great buck! Congrats. Cool rifle and cartridge. Semper Fi

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #10849196 01/08/16
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 9,611 Central Texas P powdr Campfire Outfitter
powdr Campfire Outfitter P Joined: May 2005 Posts: 9,611 Central Texas	Do you happen to have a frontal picture of the buck. Any at all would be appreciated. powdr

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! powdr #10849941 01/09/16
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OP TATELAW Campfire Tracker T Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 3,082 NORTHEAST MISSISSIPPI	Originally Posted by powdr Do you happen to have a frontal picture of the buck. Any at all would be appreciated. powdr I have some additional frontal pics of the head and rack, but not of the entrance wound in the chest. Which are you looking for? Those who must raise their voice to get their point across are generally not intelligent enough to do so in any other way.

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! rost495 #10850001 01/09/16
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	Originally Posted by rost495 Now that I see the first page... LOL.. thats not the bullet choice that I'd be leaning towards with that speed. But you can get away with a lot of things if the shot placement is correct. My thoughts too Jeff but Pat ( Scenarshooter) put them to rest years ago. His Sako in .220 swift maintained a pretty steady diet through the early years and first few barrels......and you've seen his pics.....it works at .220- Swifto speeds.... "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #11339380 07/29/16
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OP TATELAW Campfire Tracker T Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 3,082 NORTHEAST MISSISSIPPI	Thought I'd update this thread. Got this one back today. Those who must raise their voice to get their point across are generally not intelligent enough to do so in any other way.

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #11340069 07/29/16
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longshot3 Campfire Tracker L Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 5,459 Eastern Shore, Va	Good looking mount!

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #11341122 07/30/16
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Otter6 Campfire Regular O Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,315 PA	Agreed. Beautiful mount. "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #11341876 07/30/16
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	That looks great! "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #11341982 07/30/16
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fats Campfire Regular F Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,251 raleigh, nc	That's a nice buck! All these stunt shooting posts make me wonder why I keep hunting with anything above a .224 caliber.

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #11342048 07/30/16
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hillbillybear Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 27,692 Western NC	Originally Posted by TATELAW Thought I'd update this thread. Got this one back today. That is a dandy buck. Member: Clan of the Turdlike People. Courage is Fear that has said its Prayers �If we ever forget that we are one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.� Ronald Reagan.

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #11344653 08/01/16
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Reloader7RM Campfire Tracker R Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 7,132 NW La.	Looks good.

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #11347595 08/02/16
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Talus_in_Arizona Campfire Tracker T Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,575 AZ	That's a fine deer right there. I do not entertain hypotheticals. The world itself is vexing enough. -- Col. Stonehill

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #11348201 08/02/16
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 35,293 Minnesota N northern_dave Campfire 'Bwana
northern_dave Campfire 'Bwana N Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 35,293 Minnesota	very cool rifle and deer! Something clever here.

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! TATELAW #11348215 08/02/16
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roundoak Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 10,653 Badger State	Cool rifle, cartridge and nice mount. You're Welcome At My Fire Anytime

Re: Stuntshooting - With Style! roundoak #11351345 08/04/16
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Hammerdown Campfire Ranger Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 17,172 Northern California	Some nice guns, along with some nice deer. Randy NRA Patriot Life Benefactor

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