Home Forums Hunting & Shooting AR and Tactical Rifles Geissele Trigger Question

Anyone ever get a Geissele with too heavy of a pull? Got a weird SSA-E breaking at 5lbs. Basically the same as the RRA 2-stage I removed from the lower. It should be more like 3.5lbs. Waiting to hear back from support.

Are you sure its installed correctly? I've had about 5 Geissele's, never a problem with them. I guess it always possible for a lemon to slip out the door though. Luckily you went with Geissele, they will make it right whatever the problem is.

As far as I can tell. Everything moves freely and lines up nice. The actual trigger other than the pull weight works great. The 1st stage weight seems dead on. I think it just came with either the wrong disconnect spring or one out of spec.

I did end up trimming that spring and the weight came down. Now though there isn't a "flat" on the spring at the top to ride on. Probably just see if I can get another spring sent to me or I'll happily buy one at this point.

I've had 5 G2S's and they all hit 5 lbs. I change the trigger spring and lose a pound and a half. I kind of thought my cheap gauge was off but I do like the triggers after I get them around 3.5 lbs.

So I ended up putting the RRA trigger spring in along with the trimmed disconnect spring. Breaks pretty good at about 3.25lbs or so. I am happy with that for now. I'll probably order a spring kit from Geissele just to see if I really did get an out of spec stock one.

I am interested in what brand lower that you have? I have thought now for a while that the dimensional tolerances of the various lowers are great enough to allow some differences in trigger performance, ie if the holes are a few thou farther apart does the trigger release easier as there is less engagement and if they are a few thou closer together if it is a harder trigger pull etc. etc.

I have a Colt, Charles Daly and 2 Noveske's with G2S's in them and they've all hit 5 lbs.

I thought they were adjustable.

In the end if Bills group doesn't answer the questions or make this right, I"d sure like to know. PM me if you would and I"ll get on the phone and find Bill.....

Not all of them.

If OP would give Geissele a chance, they will take care of him.

It is a Del-Ton. Seems flawless but I am not that knowledgeable in the matter. All my uppers fit it great.

They are shipping me a spring kit. I'll test it out with the replacement springs when I get them and post the results. The disconnect spring is really the only one in question in my eyes.

Either way I am totally happy with the trigger as is with the trimmed disconnect spring. I banged it, dropped it, slammed it all around last night trying to cause it to fire but I couldn't so I don't think I created any kind of safety issue modifying the spring.

I would be ticked. I like wareagle700 have 6 of the SSA-E & never a major problem, great triggers. I'd like to comment on jimmyp's thoughts. Most of my 2nd stage breaks are right at 1.2# but I put one in an Armalite receiver that the 2nd stage upped to 1.6#. That same trigger in my Rock River varmint breaks 2nd stage at 1.1#. I think that jimmyp has the correct thoughts about different receivers. I'd like to hear your thoughts.


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That's what I'm wondering. Can you post a pic of the springs when you get them all installed?

So after a couple hundred dry firings, cleaning and re-lubing, the weight looks to be about 4.5lbs with a fresh spring kit. More than it is supposed to be (3.5lbs) but not bad.

It later dawned on me that I had built two lowers. Kept one for myself and gave the other to Dad. It has been a couple years but we talked about the trigger being slightly better on his. Both Del-Ton lowers bought at the same time and both with RRA 2-stage. It is all starting to make sense. So to prove the theory I put the said trigger in my RRA LAR-8 and it instantly dropped to 4lbs. Basically about a half pound change by just putting it in a different lower. Still a little heavy but within the allowable range.

So there you have it, just an unfavorable stacking of tolerances. I installed a full replacement trigger and now it breaks nicely at about 3.8lbs. Geissele customer service is second to none! I would be pretty hard pressed to ever buy another brand for an investment build. I will be going with the Hi Speed National Match next time though.

I have noticed the same problem, I can buy 2 new lowers and install the same LPKs and Triggers and have two totally different filling Triggers....I started using drop in triggers in my rifles and problem solved.

The drop in triggers have the hammer and sear hole spacing fixed in them, right?

Yes.

So, how do they fit in the various lowers? If hole spacing in the lowers isn't consistent. Or is it?

Trying to wrap my brain around this and figure out what causes the pulls to be different.

on sloppy pin holes with a Jewel and a Milazzo, the trigger pull would vary shot to shot. Simply due to all the slop and not true pins/pin holes etc...

For a drop in, everything is fixed in place, RE the sear etc... but enough slop to allow the fixed unit to be pinned in.... at least thats my guess.