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You Guess is right on the money...

I think the hammer and pin hole spacing varies a few thousands from brand to brand, or the tolerances could be "looser" on one brand than another and you get one to the edges from time to time. I could be wrong but pretty sure I have felt differences in pull with the same SSA-E trigger in different lowers.

No doubt you will unless its a unitized unit

I still want to know the best unitized single stage one... I keep reading about super single stage AR and then when you dig no one is talking glass rod 1 pound triggers like they allude to in the first place.

Has anyone seen evidence with a scale or are we guessing?

I know there was an issue with their supplied pins once that were too large and he started making them a tad smaller to cure that problem but that had to do with the safety going on when the bolt was locked back or something.

I need to try another box trigger, the last one I tried sucked but I keep hearing they have improved.

Some guy at the Gun show Sunday!! Asked if I wanted to buy a AR drop in trigger for 70 bucks... It was a new in the box CMC 3.5 LB match ...I ripped it out of his hand so fast I about took his fingers Off...Score!!!

So did you ever put a scale on those triggers that were different and then swap em around to see exactly where the problem was?

I used a clothes hanger and digital fishing scale as I don't have an actual trigger scale. Being digital it was a little difficult to get an accurate, consistent reading but it was pretty close. I am no gunsmith or AR expert but I was able to measure about a .5lb difference between lowers with the same trigger. But what doesn't make sense is the sear engagement seems fine on both. No creep or anything.

The beauty of these Geissele triggers is how easy it is to adjust the weight with a little spring manipulation. Of course I learned all this after my first post duh. My SSA-E easily breaks at 2.2lbs now and still seams solid as a rock.

While the RRA 2-stage feels almost as good the way they built it you can't change the 2nd stage weight without a major overhaul. I hunt with my AR so I like a fairly low trigger pull like the rest of my rifles.

BarryC, if you're talking about 1 piece single stage triggers, I might be able to answer you. I bought a Black Rain true 1 piece drop-in 3.5# trigger. It went in perfect in a BRO lower & the KNS pins fit perfect over the trigger pins sticking out. I did some swapping & put a Geiselle in the BRO lower & moved the BRO 1 piece trigger to an armalite lower. Had to beat in the pins in the Armalite & the KNS pin covers didn't want to fit well. The Armalite holes were closer only by thousandths, but it made the KNS pin covers want to bow up.

roust495, I don't think your ever going to find a 1# single stage because of the lawyers. In their mind the combined pull of a 2 stage is the pull weight even if 2nd stage is on 8 oz.. I haven't bought one yet but my buddy is in love with the CMC trigger. Amazon had them last week for 155.00. I hope in my rambling this helps someone.

"POWDER RIVER AND LET 'ER BUCK"

This has been a weird thread.

I don't think a clothes hanger and fishing scale are really reliable enough to see a 1/2 pound difference. I'd guess there's more variation in that setup than the lowers.

Stop bending and tweaking and trimming springs. All good Americans and most Russians love Geissele triggers. Make sure it's installed correctly, then shoot it. If it's too heavy get a different one. But don't start jankifying a good thing.

What he said! ^^^

BEWARE - I tried a JP low power trigger spring on my G2S trigger and it would not pass a function test.

Beware #2:

Check your pin size if you're planning to install a G2S in your Colt. The G2S will not work if you have large pins. You'll have to go to large pin triggers, a much more expensive venue.

SSA - $260
SSA-E - $280
S3G - $290
Hi-Speed - $330

I will be sending the 2 G2S's I bought on sale for $115/per back or will sell to someone here on the board for what I have in them.

I'm disappointed the G2S's won't work in my guns, but will listen to advice on something else similarly suitable.

sorry I missed what problem you had with the G2S? I bought the same trigger on sale, but swapped out the supplied black trigger spring with a standard trigger spring, TWR does the same thing IIRC, I did not like the flimsy supplied black trigger spring. It is not as light a pull as an SSA-E or RRA varmint but actually not horrible. It was a cheap build with an Anderson lower, the pins fit fine.

Who ever is beating pins into lower receivers, somethin aint right.

I think that was with a cartridge trigger when the pin holes were off a little.

jimmyp, long story short, the G2S won't work with my Colts (circa 2004-2005) with large pins.

Military MK 12 went to SSA-E triggers........after a AD in a veh. with the Knight 2 stage trigger.