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#1 - Knew the risks taking the job, that if she was caught she would loose her job.
#2 - married a savage
#3 - lived ON campus
#4 - how did the feds know she had an AR
#5 - why did the feds know she had an AR
How many strikes do you get?
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Smoke, I'm confused with your position. Do you think the whole story is BS, do you think the Paki is being mistreated, or do you think the FBI isn't doing enough to stop him yet? Has it occurred to you that the feds (at the field level) might actually know what they're doing, and this is just ONE example of a possible threat being thwarted that never makes the news? 222, I do think the FBI knows what it's doing, which is one of the reasons I don't believe this story. If they had information about a foreign national who was a potential terror threat, they'd put him under surveillance to see who he was in contact with, and try to identify additional foreign nationals to surveil. They wouldn't tip their hand before they had a chance to do that. Plus, no one who's commented including the OP has identified a single law that was violated, so why would the FBI get involved with enforcement of a civil matter such as an employment contract? Do we want our federal law enforcement agencies getting involved with things like this? I don't really care if the Pakistani national was mistreated because IMO, foreign nationals should not have the same rights as US citizens. Especially foreign nationals from nations that export terrorists. Lastly, no threat was thwarted here. If the FBI had information that there was a threat, this guy would've been detained and he wasn't. If the guy is truly a threat, he's still at large, but now he's been alerted and he's being careful about who he contacts so he's no longer any benefit as a source of identifying other foreign nationals who should be watched. And his wife still has the rifle. Catching him with evidence of a threat and throwing him in jail would've thwarted a threat, but that isn't even close to what happened in this story. Anyway, we have no information on the source of this story and we won't so it's a moot point.
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This sounds like an okok story. Was the woman named leslie?
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Had a Packi, MD live next door to me. He shoots, hunts and became a friend.
Moved away and when we talked one time he was hesitant to talk shooting or guns. When I saw him later, I asked him about it and he replied he was fairly sure he was being monitored and watched. "Why?" "I'm Muslim, and I openly have firearms, it eventually went away."
Today it is not a problem. The FBI or whoever, did their work and moved on, but he doesn't take his firearms into the hospital against regulation.
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laissez les bons temps rouler
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If the First Amendment (school prayer etc.) applies to local schools, why doesn't the Second? The Bill of Right limits the government rather than private individuals or private institutions on their own property. Public government schools are a different matter. That situation gets quite muddled. I think that now you can possess a firearm in your car on campuses in NC. You elucidated my point but seemed to miss it in the process. Thanks for the attempt at Con Law I first week of class lesson anyway.
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Battue, the Feds shoulda payed his boss a visit and told him about all those nasty guns, don't you think? I bet he even owned an AR-15!! We can't have that.
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Yes he does and maybe two by now. But he doesn't care all that much anymore if they want to look. He'd take them shooting if they wanted to go along.
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If the First Amendment (school prayer etc.) applies to local schools, why doesn't the Second? The Bill of Right limits the government rather than private individuals or private institutions on their own property. Public government schools are a different matter. That situation gets quite muddled. I think that now you can possess a firearm in your car on campuses in NC. You elucidated my point but seemed to miss it in the process. Thanks for the attempt at Con Law I first week of class lesson anyway. There will always be prayer in schools as long as there are final exams. Private schools just do it openly.
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Got a link to this story, or is this just some email making the rounds?
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If the First Amendment (school prayer etc.) applies to local schools, why doesn't the Second? Does it? The first is about free speech, but some believe the establishment clause, also in 1A, precludes that free speech in Federally related areas, as in Federally subsidized schools. Federally subsidized schools are not an appropriate responsibility under either the Constitution or Bill of Rights, so they really have no business there at all. All the establishment clause truly does is to prevent the Federal government from creating and enforcing a religion, which they now do in Federally subsidized schools. How is that not insanity? How is that also not a goal of the marxists? When we take reasonable intent out of a discussion of the meaning of the Constitution and BOR, it's not hard to legitimize make any outlandish application, except to reasonable people, which are becoming a scarce commodity.
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
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Smoke, I'm confused with your position. Do you think the whole story is BS, do you think the Paki is being mistreated, or do you think the FBI isn't doing enough to stop him yet? Has it occurred to you that the feds (at the field level) might actually know what they're doing, and this is just ONE example of a possible threat being thwarted that never makes the news? 222, I do think the FBI knows what it's doing, which is one of the reasons I don't believe this story. If they had information about a foreign national who was a potential terror threat, they'd put him under surveillance to see who he was in contact with, and try to identify additional foreign nationals to surveil. They wouldn't tip their hand before they had a chance to do that. Plus, no one who's commented including the OP has identified a single law that was violated, so why would the FBI get involved with enforcement of a civil matter such as an employment contract? Do we want our federal law enforcement agencies getting involved with things like this? I don't really care if the Pakistani national was mistreated because IMO, foreign nationals should not have the same rights as US citizens. Especially foreign nationals from nations that export terrorists. Lastly, no threat was thwarted here. If the FBI had information that there was a threat, this guy would've been detained and he wasn't. If the guy is truly a threat, he's still at large, but now he's been alerted and he's being careful about who he contacts so he's no longer any benefit as a source of identifying other foreign nationals who should be watched. And his wife still has the rifle. Catching him with evidence of a threat and throwing him in jail would've thwarted a threat, but that isn't even close to what happened in this story. Anyway, we have no information on the source of this story and we won't so it's a moot point. Fair enough. There are members who I immediately give the BS flag to, and the OP isn't one of them.............but like most things on the internet, well you know. I've got another theory or two to explain the fed's behavior (accepting the original premise of course) but ultimately none of this matters in the grander scheme of things.
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