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If the price was equal which would you chose? Looking at a 30-06 to have a spare on trips and don't want a spendy rifle in the wall tent or locked in the truck. What's the verdict on either of these. I don't own any 700s but do have a new vanguard s2 that I really like.
Opinions?
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Howa for me.
All day, every day.
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Overall I like the Howa better. Unless having a lighter rifle for steep rugged terrain is important. All things being equal the Howa is 1/2-3/4 lb heavier.
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HOWA is more than 12 ounces heavier, far fewer aftermarket options. Best bottom metal in the class, by far.
700 is the standard for mid-level rifles... ADL blued finish is horrible for rusting. It requires more care.
I have both and think either is good for what you pay. But I have more 700s...
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I have both but prefer the Howa with it's one piece bolt and forged action. The Japanese are good at making firearms and high end cutlery.
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Nothing wrong with either, but pass the 700, please.
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Whittaker's is selling a variety of 1500s for $330, so if they have one that will meet your needs that would probably be the best buy. Put a ScopeCoat on your optics and wipe it down with 3-in-1 oil to keep it from rusting when it is out in the elements.
If you can find one, a stainless Marlin XL7 might be a good choice. Cheap and stainless, two good attributes.
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I am a long time 700 fan, but the choice between NEW rifles I would go with Howa.. If you get an older one I would favor the 700..
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I had the 700 SPS ADL (Walmart special) and I have a Vanguard (same as Howa)I prefer the VG.
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Howa: The safety works AND locks the bolt (what a concept!), the bolt handle won't pop off, the extractor will extract and they are very accurate..
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I prefer the Howa just because of the quality of the action.
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Well I kind of followed the majority here. I went to "just look" tonight And had a vanguard S2 follow me home. I got the stainless in 30-06. I wanted a value priced gun that I could leave in camp or in the truck on hunts away from home. I decided on stainless because I'll carry it on nasty days too. I'm a wood and blued kind of guy and I hate having to carry my nice rifles on some of our nasty Oregon fall days. The S2 was the same price as the SPS and I know the S2 is a damn nice firearm. I'm happy.
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I'm a new fan of the Vanguard/Howa. Took delivery today of a stainless 257 Wthby. Had a new B&C Medalist waiting for it. 24" barrel (I cannot like a 26" tube). Bottom metal is nice! Trigger is nice! Uses Rem 700 Talley's that I had on hand. Great value - I have $850 in the rifle/stock - IF it will shoot.
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in my massive experience (one M700 and one Vanguard) the Vanguard is without a doubt the best choice.
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I would go Howa/Vanguard and I used to be a 700 guy!! My Vanguard S2 is heavy, but love the trigger and the accuracy. It is also a very easy keeper, as it shoots everything I've tried very well. I use it for antelope hunting where weight is not as big a deal. Would not relish lugging one around the elk hills.
An older 700 is another story, though. I like those.
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I lean heavily towards the Howa/Vanguard side of the ledger - have three. I feel that Legacy Sports (Howa distributor) has done a nice job of keeping the offerings fresh and relevant with their package rifles, the new Alpine series, the Mini actions, 6.5 Creedmore, etc. (See they have re-introduced the Webley & Scott name using Howa-actioned rifles - Webley Scott .) Wish they had retained the 375 Ruger models and chambered the 416 Ruger. Maybe down the road a ways? I am very interested in what Weatherby has brought out recently in the Vanguard series. Would love to get a hold of one of these: Weatherby Dangerous Game RifleHope these are made available this year.
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A Vanguard in dangerous game calibers would be awesome!
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