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I want one but can't decide. It will be used for deer, pig and possible black bear. I like the ability to use .45 Colt in the .454 but I also like the fat heavy .480 bullets. Any suggestions?
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The .454 absolutely sucks; it's an abusive SOB to shoot. .480, or by the .45LC in the Classifieds for a LOT less and kill stuff with the .45LC.
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I've got a shirt from the 454 show. I bought it because of the ability to shoot 45 Colt out of it.
If I were faced with that decision today, I'd likely play with the 480.
That said, I've about decided that the 45 Colt with a stout revolver will do all the work I need to do with a handgun.
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Had a .480 Taurus and other than it being a Taurus it shot very well and recoil was her tolerable. I hear the .454 is vicious and I would probably just shoot .45 Colt in it anyway. The .480 will probably be the route I take. Unless of course I could actually find a BFR in .500 JRH!
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If you want a 45 bisley I'd look for one of the dual cylinder 45 acp 45 colts. It'll push 330's 1300 fps from the colt cylinder, thats all I ever want out of a 45 caliber. If you want more, the 480 will push 400's 1200 fps which IMHO is the way to go vs the added velocity of the 454.
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The .454 absolutely sucks; it's an abusive SOB to shoot. .480, or by the .45LC in the Classifieds for a LOT less and kill stuff with the .45LC. This. Had a 7.5" super Redhawk in 454 and it just plain sucked to shoot.
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I've had a few 454's prefer the F/A's but frankly I like my Bisley Ruger 45 Colt. It can put out some serious fire power.
Heavy 45 Colt +P Pistol and Handgun Ammo Heavy 45 Colt +P Ammo - 325 gr. L.B.T.-L.F.N. (1,325 fps/M.E. 1,267 ft. lbs.) That will do most anything I need. If it can't I have my 480 Ruger. If that won't I've got my 475 Linebaugh. But no more time than I spend in Alaska these days I'll probably move my Linebaugh. A 400 grain HC even at 950 fps, will handle a heck of a lot.
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Between the two choices, .480. Bigger holes are almost never a bad thing
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When I went from the 44 mag to the 454 25 or so years ago, I thought the 454 was awesome, though not much fun to shoot with full tilt loads. It was more about the quality and accuracy of the Freedom Arms revolver. After a few years of shooting it, I discovered the 45 Colt and lost interest in the 454.
I've had a Vaquero 45 Colt and FA 454 for a number of years. In the 454, lately I've been loading 454 brass with 4227 and 335 gr cast bullets in the 11-1300 fps range and it's pleasant to shoot, though not much (if any) more than an uper end 45 Colt load.
I recently picked up one of the 5 shot Bisley 480's and really like it so far - pleasant to shoot and very accurate, and would be my preference over the 454...
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Here's another option as shown next to a Colt 45.
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I won both and would opt for the .480 over the .454 if forced to pick one. That said, I mostly shoot .45 Colt +P loads through the .454 version. I have taken really big critters (more that 1,000 lbs) with both calibers, and will bank on the .480 over the .454 every time.
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Here's another option as shown next to a Colt 45. The .45-70 lists higher muzzle velocity and muzzle energy than both the .454 and the .480 not to mention ammo is more readily available and is quite a bit less expensive if you don't reload. The Magnum Research BFR in .45-70 with the rubber grips won't beat you to death and is quite a fine revolver. But you won't shoot .45 LC thru it.
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If only muzzle energy were relevant in measuring lethality.......
I have a .45/70 BFR and there is no comparison. One is a crew served weapon, the other is a revolver that can be comfortably carried on your hip. While the .45/70 BFR definitely has its place, I just don't see how it is germane to this discussion.
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It will be used for deer, pig and possible black bear... A 45 Colt will do all that just fine with the right bullet and doesn't have to loaded hot to do so, and with loads safe in a smaller frame revolver. I wouldn't own a 454, I'd rather have the shorter cylinder.
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454 is about as good as it gets, if you want bigger then move up to the 500 Smith
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Had a 500 S&W 8 3/8" ported barrel. Very heavy and not a lot of fun to shoot with full house loads. The .500 JRH loads in it were great.
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It will be used for deer, pig and possible black bear... A 45 Colt will do all that just fine with the right bullet and doesn't have to loaded hot to do so, and with loads safe in a smaller frame revolver. I wouldn't own a 454, I'd rather have the shorter cylinder. The cylinder is essentially the same length.
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Shorter chambered cylinder...more accurately the 45 Colt chambering.
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I've got 2 S&W 500's - One came from the S&W custom shop. It has a 6.5" barrel that is compensated. The other one, which I haven't shot, was built by Gary Reeder. If I had known that devalued the revolver I never would have commissioned him to build one.
My Smith & Wesson 500 is not hard to shoot. The recoil is more of a really hard shove than a sharp, snapping recoil. I can shoot full-house loads easily. I think it's between a truly portable handgun and something you just couldn't stand to carry around.
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454 is about as good as it gets, if you want bigger then move up to the 500 Smith Perhaps on paper... The 480 is the perfect blend of a package that will drive a large diameter heavy hardcast bullet with sufficient velocity to drive clear through with a shootable level of recoil without requiring an overly heavy revolver or a muzzle brake. The 480 is the real world, real deal.
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