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I love the round nose bullet,I shoot a 25/35 that needs hornady 117gr rn,and I really like the 160gr rn in my 264 win mag, wish sierra would bring back there 6.5 160's,and my Winchester 54 loves the 180 and the 220 rn,and my 35 rem in 141 loves the 200gr rn hornady's. I know the spitzers shoot flatter, but someone said life is to short to shoot an ugly rifle,I think life is too short not to shoot and kill big game without a round nose bullet. They just look cool to me tell me what you think,and I know I'll smoke turds in Hell for this!

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I think the 6.5 160 grain round nose is the coolest looking bullet I've seen. I'd love to get something that I could use it in.

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Fastest deer kill I've ever seen was with a Speer 165gr RN from a .300 Savage. I'm a big fan of RNs.

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I can understand using them in certain rifles where they are needed, but pointed bullets make a huge difference even at close range. And it isn't trajectory as much as retained energy.

Fire a 180 gr AB and a 180 gr RN from a 30-06 at the same 2800 fps and at only 50 yards the pointed bullet has a 100 fps advantage and 200 ft lbs more energy. AT 50 YARDS!!! The AB has a 200 fps advantage at only 100 yards with an additional 300 ft lbs. This is at only 100 yards, not long range.

At 300 yards the pointed bullet has an extra 500 fps and and 800 ft lbs more energy. The RN bullet only drops 4" more so the trajectory difference isn't that much different.


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I understand that where it matters, but my longest shot at a deer was 110 yards, and where I hunt now, 100 yard will be the farthest I can see one. I've had better terminal performance from the RNs and shorter tracking. I shot a small 8 pt. two years ago with a .257 110gr. AB at 2900 from 75 yards, and was less than impressed. I got the deer, but it was a longish track job in thick stuff, and the deer was still alive 25 minutes after I shot it. I never had a deer go more than 10 yards with an RN. It works for me, sounds like your mileage varies. That's what makes hunting interesting.

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Originally Posted by old70
I understand that where it matters, but my longest shot at a deer was 110 yards, and where I hunt now, 100 yard will be the farthest I can see one. I've had better terminal performance from the RNs and shorter tracking. I shot a small 8 pt. two years ago with a .257 110gr. AB at 2900 from 75 yards, and was less than impressed. I got the deer, but it was a longish track job in thick stuff, and the deer was still alive 25 minutes after I shot it. I never had a deer go more than 10 yards with an RN. It works for me, sounds like your mileage varies. That's what makes hunting interesting.



That sounds like you have what works well in your hunting area. If you ever venture west get you a pocket full of spbt.

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IMHO based on the experiences I have had, the RN bullets do an excellent job and give up little under 200 yds. JMR40 is correct in his ballistic figures but in reality most of the cartridges we use on deer have more than ample energy to do the job. While I've never had any real issues with pointy bullets the RN bullets do seem to put the knock on deer and drop them right there. I have also had good accuracy out of RN bullets. my 7x57 seems to shoot the 154 gr RN well and the 150 gr speer 30 cal shot well in my 308.

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I've had Winchester 180 RN drop deer quicker than any spitzers. I've been saving my last box of Speer 165 RN. Guess it time to work up a load for them.


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Here is the 200 gr Silvertip 358 Winchester RN that I have taken the most deer with.

All have been my handloads.

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Originally Posted by moosemike
I think the 6.5 160 grain round nose is the coolest looking bullet I've seen. I'd love to get something that I could use it in.


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Back when I was a kid some 40 years ago our hunting group had a bunch of guys who carried Remington pumps, they all thought that "The" ammo of choice for Adirondack hunting was the corelokt 180gr RN.

Of course they believed a bunch of things that sound crazy now like the RN "hits harder" or the RN can shoot through brush. Even if they had some odd beliefs they all killed deer pretty much every year (not exactly easy in the dacks)and I never heard them complain that the rifle or bullet was at fault.


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06 in a pump with 180 gr round nose is a bear combo in my parts. Where they also anticipating a chance of a bear to shoot?


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I shot my last two elk, last 2 mule deer, and last 3 antelope with round nosed factory ammo. All but one elk was under 250 yards. All with the same old Winchester 30-06. Two elk and one deer was shot using Remington's old discontinued Mushroom Core-Lokt hollow point bullets. All the others were shot using Winchester's old 180 grain round nose power points. Superb performance on all except the one elk that was that was at 385 yards. That one took two shots because of poor marksmanship and a tough bullet. I only recovered one bullet from all the animals and that was from the distant elk. Not a tremendous amount of expansion on that bullet. I have used the same Remington Mushroom Core-Lokt bullet in a 30-30 to take and elk and a buffalo. Again the only recovered bullet was from the elk which was shot at 200 yards and the old 30-30 was running out of gas at that point. I really like those old discontinued bullets and have shot other animals over the years with them.

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love to here stuff like that! that is way cool!

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I have shot other animals with that long discontinued Remington Mushroom Core-Lokt but some of these are actually more spritzer like. The 200 grain in the 348, which I recovered from an elk, and the 100 grain in the 250 Savage are more spritzer than round nose. I recently acquired a couple hundred 243 Hornaday round nose bullets for reloading. I am hoarding the Remington 100 grain round nose bullets for the 250 Savage. I have fantasies about someone producing a 224 diameter true round nose big game bullet. My other fantasy that will never come to fruition is parallel sided round nose tough full metal jacket bullets in 22, 24, 25, and 27 caliber. And a good tough 30 caliber 180 grain fmj would be appreciated.

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How would they hold up at say 3000-3100 fps?

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I also have a preference for round nose bullets but came by this honestly which was my early years with shooting the 175 gr round nose in the 7X57. In my book the Remington core-lokt round nose bullets are really a "Premium bullet" if shot a the speed they were intended. Since Remington has exited the bullet component business most of us will have hoard the round nose core-lokts what we have left.

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Originally Posted by ihookem
06 in a pump with 180 gr round nose is a bear combo in my parts. Where they also anticipating a chance of a bear to shoot?


They were probably from PA. That was THE deer load when I was a lad.

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Originally Posted by old70
Fastest deer kill I've ever seen was with a Speer 165gr RN from a .300 Savage. I'm a big fan of RNs.


I like the round-nose bullets okay - but how do they kill faster than "instantly" ?


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