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I'm telling you. You guys are barking up the wrong tree.(As was I.) The scarier and unpredictable Trump is, the more his supporters like him. They want him to be the same way with Congress.


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Originally Posted by Crow hunter
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I've figured it out. The reason a Trump fan can't be convinced that he is a bad man is because they know he is a bad man. That's what they like about him. He is condescending, rude, and mean and they are hoping to project their own anger through him.

Everything else be damned.


Sort of, but not really.

He's not the status quo. We know what we'll get with Hillary, more continuation of Obama's march towards socialism that has done more damage to this nation than anything in history. We know what we'll get with Bush, Rubio, Kasich, etc., a return to G.W. Bush style government where the march towards a socialist nation still presses on, just at half speed. The rhetoric changes, but at the end of the day they'll all shake hands and agree to raise taxes and grow government. Paul Ryan will hug Nancy Pelosi and they'll jet off to their latest fundraiser while the rest of america is left to pay for it.

If we elect any of those candidates then nothing fundamentally changes, the country presses forward towards a train wreck that we all know is coming. You can't be 19 trillion dollars in the hole without someone having to pay for it. Can anyone even envision 19 trillion dollars? I can't imagine what that would even look like sitting in a vault. No one can which is why it's meaningless to us now. It's just a number that no one cares about growing because it's become meaningless. But the chickens will come home to roost eventually.

The reason the frustrated are backing Trump is not that they like him, it's that we know what we're going to get with the others and IT HAS TO STOP or it will destroy our country as we know it. Trump might not be any better, but he sure as hell can't be any worse than what we've had. He's the hail Mary pass, lots of people are so disenfranchised now that they feel they have nothing to lose. That's why they're considering Trump.



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That was an excellent summation


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Ted Cruz is hitting it hard in South Carolina.

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Originally Posted by Raeford
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He never suggested they were stupid, just loyal.

I would use the word gullible.


What is beginning to come to MY mind is Bowsinger/RobJordan as you guys are just as eat up with Cruz as many here are with Trump. shocked
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Change Cruz to conservatism and you can add me to the list.


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My biggest beef with Trump, even more than the fact that I don't like him as a candidate and a man, is the fact that he has created an environment where all the republicans are destroying each other. Yeah, I know, attacks happen in every election, but he has proven that there is no floor on how low the process can sink. With the amount of material that they could be focusing on by going after Hillary and Sanders, their wasting their time and money destroying the republican party. We should be evaluating how well they talk about what's wrong with the democrat candidates as a preview to a general election. Instead, this entire process is all about Trump. If he wins, he have a horrible candidate at best that doesn't share our values imo. If he loses, he has made sure that the rest of the republican field is a bloody mess.


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
Ted Cruz is hitting it hard in South Carolina.

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Tell me Cruz doesn't remind you of a televangelist, I dare you.


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Cruz is all we have left if conservatism is your bag. I understand that it is not everybody's goal.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Cruz is all we have left if conservatism is your bag. I understand that it not everybody's.


Define conservatism.


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
Ted Cruz is a shinning example of why there are so many rich/popular televangelists. He is that crutch for feeble minded.


Pretty much the way I see it. They see Cruz as the "savior", despite Cruz having zero ability to get anything passed that he has promised his followers.

Cruz says things like "Abolish the IRS" and people get an instant hard on. It will never happen. Nobody likes Cruz, and he can't bring people together to make that happen. We have checks an balances for a reason.

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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by Raeford
Originally Posted by OutlawPatriot
Originally Posted by ltppowell
He never suggested they were stupid, just loyal.

I would use the word gullible.


What is beginning to come to MY mind is Bowsinger/RobJordan as you guys are just as eat up with Cruz as many here are with Trump. shocked
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Change Cruz to conservatism and you can add me to the list.


I hate to say this[really,really hate it] but 'conservatism' as you want it has left the building, and much like Elvis, it isn't coming back. frown


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
Tell me Cruz doesn't remind you of a televangelist, I dare you.
Na Ted's too nice not enough fire and brimstone to be a televangelist


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Originally Posted by Raeford
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Originally Posted by ltppowell
He never suggested they were stupid, just loyal.

I would use the word gullible.

What is beginning to come to MY mind is Bowsinger/RobJordan as you guys are just as eat up with Cruz as many here are with Trump. shocked

Actually, I think this is way off. Trump is a cult of personality. Those of us who support Cruz strongly are Constitutionalists. There are/were only 3 Constitutionalists in the race- Cruz, Paul and Carson. Paul is out and Cruz is the one that's left with the best chance of winning. For me, the entire argument starts and ends with the Constitution. I couldn't care less about the celebrity or personality issues.


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I trust Rubio more than I trust Trump and that says something considering the gang of 8


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Desirous of freedom, both social and fiscal.


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Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
I trust Rubio more than I trust Trump and that says something considering the gang of 8


Which goes right along with what I've been saying for years, a conservative Yankee is what I call a liberal.


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If you think that IGAF about the 'celebrity' part you are mistaken. I am in for Carson 1st, then Trump. I will however vote nationally for anyone on the red ticket.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Desirous of freedom, both social and fiscal.


Government stays out of 'our' business and worries about National Defense?


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No just speaks volumes on my stance on Trump who after all is a liberal yankee if true be told


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