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Originally Posted by Joe
I've had Winchester 180 RN drop deer quicker than any spitzers. I've been saving my last box of Speer 165 RN. Guess it time to work up a load for them.




You a re going to have to use your discontinued Speer 165 gr RN bullets sparingly.

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I think the 6.5 160 grain round nose is the coolest looking bullet I've seen. I'd love to get something that I could use it in.


Those 160 grain Hornady RN's shoot better than anything else out of my Swedish Mauser. Great bullet.


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Originally Posted by JMR40
I can understand using them in certain rifles where they are needed, but pointed bullets make a huge difference even at close range. And it isn't trajectory as much as retained energy.

Fire a 180 gr AB and a 180 gr RN from a 30-06 at the same 2800 fps and at only 50 yards the pointed bullet has a 100 fps advantage and 200 ft lbs more energy. AT 50 YARDS!!! The AB has a 200 fps advantage at only 100 yards with an additional 300 ft lbs. This is at only 100 yards, not long range.

At 300 yards the pointed bullet has an extra 500 fps and and 800 ft lbs more energy. The RN bullet only drops 4" more so the trajectory difference isn't that much different.


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The round nose does have style. I always felt like if someone had given Bell a spitzer, Bell would have laughed in his face. I've no idea why I concluded that.


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Originally Posted by doctor_Encore
Originally Posted by Joe
I've had Winchester 180 RN drop deer quicker than any spitzers. I've been saving my last box of Speer 165 RN. Guess it time to work up a load for them.




You a re going to have to use your discontinued Speer 165 gr RN bullets sparingly.

Doc


Right you are Doc. They have been on the shelf for years waiting for just the right time and now is the time. ;)I just looked at them and saw the sticker on them marked $6.14. shocked


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Bearstalker,
I've shot a handful of elk with the Sierra 180 grain roundnose out of a 300 H&H. They start at just under 3100 fps. They have worked well so far. They lose weight, expand pretty rapidly etc.. I wouldn't want to push them any harder, at least for big game. They shoot better than about 6 or 8 other bullets tested out of this rifle.

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I have a 100 pack of 150 gr .277 bullets. Bought them from a guy for 7 bucks. The price on the box said 4 bucks or something. I am going to load em up and use em for deer and maybe a bear.


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I grew up shooting RN Core Lokts. Never had a problem on PA deer.

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I sure like the old 200gr RN Cor-Lokt bullet in the 35 Remington. It seems to be a perfect match and has never let me down.

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I think ever body oughtta shoot what they like to. Why a body would choose a RN bullet is any body's guess.
The logic plumb evades me.


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Originally Posted by johnw
I think ever body oughtta shoot what they like to. Why a body would choose a RN bullet is any body's guess.
The logic plumb evades me.


One reason is to have a bullet of a particular weight that will stabilize in a barrel that is not twisted fast enough to stabilize a (longer) spitzer bullet of the same weight.

The logic that evades me is these guys who agonize over ballistic coefficients, velocity, fractions of an inch of trajectory, penetration, weight retention, expansion and tenths of a minute of angle when they have never, and probably never will have, shot anything but whitetail deer under two hundred yards.


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@OP ... This topic came up about a year ago. I offered to pay the postage for anyone who wanted to clear the arcane round nose bullets off their loading bench. Still have not had any takers...

Offer still stands...




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Originally Posted by Orion2000
@OP ... This topic came up about a year ago. I offered to pay the postage for anyone who wanted to clear the arcane round nose bullets off their loading bench. Still have not had any takers...

Offer still stands...


I can't take you up on that offer.

I've "never" bought R N bullets.

I don't expect to "ever" buy any.

Whatever floats UR boat.


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Originally Posted by johnw
I think ever body oughtta shoot what they like to. Why a body would choose a RN bullet is any body's guess.
The logic plumb evades me.


I agree. However, for close range and maybe up to 200 yds, depending on the cartridge, I don't feel there's much disadvantage in trajectory. I just will not hobble myself with close range bullets, cartridges, or rifles.

It doesn't hurt me to carry 'Lite' rifles with better ballistics.

This floats MY boat.


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Are you saying that agonizing over a particular bullet weight is logical?


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When I recently purchased a new 270 Winchester , I never considered any other Ammo/Bullets other than Federal 150 gr RN ...
I think the use of RN bullets is how the 30-30 and other cartridges ..have such great reputation of success ...
Like the 6.5x55 160 gr RN or the 7.5x57 175gr RN bullets have both have a stellar reputation.. Those heavy for caliber bullets expand and penetrate like no tomorrow.....

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Originally Posted by Buckeye
When I recently purchased a new 270 Winchester , I never considered any other Ammo/Bullets other than Federal 150 gr RN ...
I think the use of RN bullets is how the 30-30 and other cartridges ..have such great reputation of success ...
Like the 6.5x55 160 gr RN or the 7.5x57 175gr RN bullets have both have a stellar reputation.. Those heavy for caliber bullets expand and penetrate like no tomorrow.....

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Just 2 weeks ago I was in my local gun shop and a fellow was having Leopold scopes mounted on a two Tikka rifles he just bought, A 270 for him and the .243 for his son. We spoke for a while as the scopes were being mounted by the shop owner and he told me he primarily hunts Sika
on Maryland's eastern shore. The Sika deer is non-native and is actually are part of the Elk family....in fact they are baby Elk.

The Tikka buyer said he was buying the .270 because he wanted a lighter rifle than his 7MM magnum also saying the 7Mag was too "destructive" on Sika Deer...no surprise there.

I recommended he try the Federal .270 round nose load and he could eat right up to the hole. Besides a Tikka .270 will shoot just any load....MOA.

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They work very well for me....
Shot a coyote this fall with a 117 rn 257 Roberts...nickel size exit hole..
Amazing results on deer too...

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I think ever body oughtta shoot what they like to. Why a body would choose a RN bullet is any body's guess.
The logic plumb evades me.


I agree. However, for close range and maybe up to 200 yds, depending on the cartridge, I don't feel there's much disadvantage in trajectory. I just will not hobble myself with close range bullets, cartridges, or rifles.

It doesn't hurt me to carry 'Lite' rifles with better ballistics.

This floats MY boat.


Jerry


You get a lot of 500-1000 yard shots during hunting season with a hurricane in the background? If you killed anything last year, what ranges?

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Originally Posted by bearstalker
Originally Posted by jwall

However, for close range and maybe up to 200 yds, depending on the cartridge, I don't feel there's much disadvantage in trajectory.

It doesn't hurt me to carry 'Lite' rifles with better ballistics.

This floats MY boat.

Jerry

You get a lot of 500-1000 yard shots during hunting season with a hurricane in the background? If you killed anything last year, what ranges?


What does a 'hurricane' have to do with my/our posts?

Yes, I killed a few last yr. Posted pics in "Deer Hunting" & "Hunting Rifles" forums.

Regardless of distance last year - I believe in being prepared for 'longer' than 'short' range.

You don't have to get to 500 yds for a RN to be slower and arched much lower.

Remember I said, "This floats my boat"

Shoot what floats your boat. You will NEVER convince me to load and carry RNers.

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